Speed limits on non interstate freeways in your state

Started by Roadgeekteen, May 10, 2020, 09:52:46 PM

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sprjus4

Quote from: vdeane on May 11, 2020, 03:24:00 PM
Quote from: Ketchup99 on May 11, 2020, 03:11:25 PM
Quote from: vdeane on May 11, 2020, 01:02:04 PM
Quote from: briantroutman on May 11, 2020, 12:22:11 AM
When Pennsylvania expanded the number and expanse of its 70 MPH zones in 2016, that included a few non-Interstate freeways:

- US 15 (from Trout Run north to the NY state line)
- PA Tpk. 576
- PA Tpk. 45 (most)
- PA Tpk. 66 (most)
I wonder if PA actually does care.  It's noteworthy that all those examples are either maintained by the PTC or a future interstate corridor.  Then again, 70 zones are sparse enough on PennDOT roadways that it can be hard to tell.

There's actually quite a lot of 70 in PA - most of 80, most of present/future 99, 380, 79 (I think), Turnpike, etc. Mostly, PA doesn't have too much non-interstate freeway, and so it is hard to tell.

There are still many roads that don't have any 70 zones for seemingly no reason, like I-81.  It's hardly pervasive like it would be in other parts of the country.
North Carolina still has a lot of 65 mph zones on segments that could easily be 70 mph, particularly on non-interstates, then other segments that are 70 mph throughout for long distances. Compare that to a state such as Virginia that posts 70 mph on most of its mileage.


TheHighwayMan3561

Minnesota has a 65 cap to all non-Interstate freeways outside 494/694. There aren't many, but some non-interstate freeways posted at 65 include US 169, US 10, MN 101, US 12, US 10/61, and US 52.

Freeways inside 494/694 (Interstate or not) are capped at 60; these include MN 100 between 394 and 694, US 169 from 101st Ave to 494, US 10/61 from Lower Afton Road to 494, and most recently MN 5 from 494 east past the airport. All others are 55.
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doorknob60

In Idaho, the maximum is currently 70 MPH, which you'll see on US-20 east of Idaho Falls and US-95 north of Coeur d'Alene. There is also a few stretches of 70 MPH 2 lane highways, US-20 west of Idaho Falls, and almost the entirety of ID-22 are the 2 examples I'm aware of. 70 is the maximum allowed in Idaho on a non-Interstate. All of these used to be 65 MPH, but when Interstates were raised from 75 to 80, non-interstates were allowed to raise from 65 to 70. None of them raised right away, but in the following couple years the freeways and a few 2-laners did.

In Oregon, it's usually, infuriatingly, 55. Examples include US-26 west of Portland and OR-22 east of Salem. ODOT is not allowed to raise above 55 even if they wanted to (and boy, those 2 really deserve it, the flow of traffic is generally close to 70). The only exceptions are explicitly allowed on specific highways in the law. So the real answer is 65 MPH, on US-97 between Bend and Sunriver, and between Bend and Redmond (both are not what I would call full freeways, but pretty close). Oddly enough, there is a 2 lane highway with a higher speed limit, US-95.

Washington gets it right, there is no speed limit discrimination between Interstates and non-Interstates. US-395 is 70 MPH between Pasco and Ritzville just like the rural interstates are. Though, there are some examples where their choices are questionable, such as the US-101/WA-8/US-12 expressway between Olympia and Aberdeen, which is posted at 60. If 70 is too fast for some reason, 65 would feel a lot more reasonable. For what it's worth, to my knowledge the highest 2 lane limit is 65, seen on quite a few highways including WA-14 and US-97.

bassoon1986

Louisiana has very few freeways outside of interstates. But the highest on any of them is 65 mph.

LA 3132 in Shreveport is urban and is 60 mph.

US 167/Pineville Expressway is 50 mph starting at I-49 and increases to 55 and then to 65 as standards improve and medians/shoulders widen.

US 190 freeway in Mandeville is 55 mph

The Lake Pontchartain Causeway is 65 mph.

Business US 90 freeway through New Orleans is urban and stays at 60 mph.

Earhart Expressway in Metairie is 50 mph.


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Revive 755

Quote from: ozarkman417 on May 11, 2020, 12:25:48 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 10, 2020, 10:07:22 PM
* MO 13 between I-49 and the far western fringes of Clinton
Did you mean MO 7? Now would be the time to increase the speed limit to 70 on the MO 13 portion down to Springfield now that the Route O trafficlight has been removed and many J-turns have been recently constructed.

Yes, I meant MO 7.  As for the MO 13, given the amount of traffic closer to Springfield I think it's more likely a 60 mph stretch may pop up someday, maybe even signalization of a few of the J-turns unless MoDOT manages to get funds for a full freeway upgrade.

Quote from: ozarkman417 on May 11, 2020, 12:25:48 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 10, 2020, 10:07:22 PM
There may be others, but US 60 between Poplar Bluff and I-55 is certainly not one of them (though IMHO it should be).
It probably will be increased when that part of US 60 is upgraded to I-57.

Considering how many drivers are already going 75 on that stretch . . .

vdeane

Quote from: doorknob60 on May 11, 2020, 06:06:28 PM
In Oregon, it's usually, infuriatingly, 55. Examples include US-26 west of Portland and OR-22 east of Salem. ODOT is not allowed to raise above 55 even if they wanted to (and boy, those 2 really deserve it, the flow of traffic is generally close to 70). The only exceptions are explicitly allowed on specific highways in the law. So the real answer is 65 MPH, on US-97 between Bend and Sunriver, and between Bend and Redmond (both are not what I would call full freeways, but pretty close). Oddly enough, there is a 2 lane highway with a higher speed limit, US-95.
I thought ODOT did have the power to set 70 mph zones, but officials appointed by a governor who was very opposed to raising speed limits refused to do so, forcing the legislature to designate some zones themselves when said governor was finally gone?
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sprjus4

Quote from: bassoon1986 on May 11, 2020, 08:22:49 PM
Louisiana has very few freeways outside of interstates. But the highest on any of them is 65 mph.

LA 3132 in Shreveport is urban and is 60 mph.

US 167/Pineville Expressway is 50 mph starting at I-49 and increases to 55 and then to 65 as standards improve and medians/shoulders widen.

US 190 freeway in Mandeville is 55 mph

The Lake Pontchartain Causeway is 65 mph.

Business US 90 freeway through New Orleans is urban and stays at 60 mph.

Earhart Expressway in Metairie is 50 mph.

The long stretches of US-90 freeway between Lafayette and New Orleans are 70 mph.

Thunderbyrd316

Quote from: vdeane on May 11, 2020, 09:53:11 PM
Quote from: doorknob60 on May 11, 2020, 06:06:28 PM
In Oregon, it's usually, infuriatingly, 55. Examples include US-26 west of Portland and OR-22 east of Salem. ODOT is not allowed to raise above 55 even if they wanted to (and boy, those 2 really deserve it, the flow of traffic is generally close to 70). The only exceptions are explicitly allowed on specific highways in the law. So the real answer is 65 MPH, on US-97 between Bend and Sunriver, and between Bend and Redmond (both are not what I would call full freeways, but pretty close). Oddly enough, there is a 2 lane highway with a higher speed limit, US-95.
I thought ODOT did have the power to set 70 mph zones, but officials appointed by a governor who was very opposed to raising speed limits refused to do so, forcing the legislature to designate some zones themselves when said governor was finally gone?

   Sadly, it is a bit more complicated than that and even more sadly, highly unlikely ANYTHING positive is going to happen with regard to speed limits in Oregon any time soon. For one thing I believe that the 70 m.p.h. authorization that predated HB 3402 applied only to Interstate highways.

   Western Oregon has some of the most oppressive speed limits on the entire planet. HB 3402 (passed in 2015 and went into full effect March 1, 2016) was an important first step but Western Oregon is not significantly better off today than it was in 1987. At this point I would be happy just to see 60 on I-205, US 26 west of Cedar Hills and 22 east of Salem and 70 I-5 between Eugene and Albany and between Kieser and Oregon 551. Sadly, I see NO hope of even that minimal relief at any point in the foreseeable future.

   As a side note, as far as I am aware the Temporary Emergency Speed Zone Orders that were put into effect on parts of US 20 and US 97 in response to HB 3402, including the entire segment between Redmond and Madras are no longer valid but are still being unlawfully enforced.

roadfro

Nevada

Urban freeways are limited to 65 mph, which comprise the bulk of non-interstate freeway facilities:
*US 395, from I-80 in Reno north to the California state line
*Summerlin Pkwy in Las Vegas
*CC 215 in Las Vegas
*US 95 in Las Vegas, from I-15 west/north to the city limits near SR 157

With the conversion of the US 95/SR 157 junction to an interchange, we now have a short stretch of 70mph non-interstate freeway:
*US 95 northwest of Las Vegas, from SR 157 to just north of the Snow Mountain interchange
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Roadgeekteen

Quote from: roadfro on May 13, 2020, 11:01:15 AM
Nevada

Urban freeways are limited to 65 mph, which comprise the bulk of non-interstate freeway facilities:
*US 395, from I-80 in Reno north to the California state line
*Summerlin Pkwy in Las Vegas
*CC 215 in Las Vegas
*US 95 in Las Vegas, from I-15 west/north to the city limits near SR 157

With the conversion of the US 95/SR 157 junction to an interchange, we now have a short stretch of 70mph non-interstate freeway:
*US 95 northwest of Las Vegas, from SR 157 to just north of the Snow Mountain interchange
Isn't there a 4 lane expressway posted at 75 south of Vegas?
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roadfro

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 13, 2020, 11:36:33 AM
Quote from: roadfro on May 13, 2020, 11:01:15 AM
Nevada

Urban freeways are limited to 65 mph, which comprise the bulk of non-interstate freeway facilities:
*US 395, from I-80 in Reno north to the California state line
*Summerlin Pkwy in Las Vegas
*CC 215 in Las Vegas
*US 95 in Las Vegas, from I-15 west/north to the city limits near SR 157

With the conversion of the US 95/SR 157 junction to an interchange, we now have a short stretch of 70mph non-interstate freeway:
*US 95 northwest of Las Vegas, from SR 157 to just north of the Snow Mountain interchange
Isn't there a 4 lane expressway posted at 75 south of Vegas?
Expressway ≠ Freeway
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michravera

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 11, 2020, 12:03:37 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 10, 2020, 10:42:23 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 10, 2020, 10:31:57 PM
Either 65 or 70 MPH on CA 99.  65 MPH on CA 41, 168, 180, and 198.
I think it's 70 on CA 99 and parts of US 101.

Yes, there is a lot of 70 MPH on 99 north of Bakersfield to around the Fresno City Limit.  There is another couple 70 MPH zones between Fresno and Merced.  US 101 has a freeway segment with 70 MPH near San Lucas but much of the highway is an expressway signed 65 MPH.  101 was a little outside of my normal "day-to-day" area to include in my original post.

US-101 was posted 70 MPH from just south of King City to just north of San Miguel (where there is a break in the freeway) last I saw. I was last there about a year ago and CalTrans was apparently working on the the break, so it may be posted 70MPH all of the way to just north of Paso Robles when they get finished with what it looked like they were doing.

ftballfan

M-5 (Farmington Bypass): 70 (not 100% sure)
M-6: 70
M-8: 55
M-10 (Jefferson Ave to Wyoming Ave): 55
M-10 (Wyoming Ave to I-696): 70
M-14 (west of US-23): 65
M-14 (east of US-23): 70
M-39: 55 (there might be a small stretch of 70)
M-53: 70
M-59: 70
US-10 (Farwell to Bay City): 75
US-23 (OH line to Flint): 70
US-31 (IN line to Napier Ave): 70
US-31 (Grand Haven to Montague): 70
US-31 (Montague to Ludington): 75
US-127 (Jackson to DeWitt): 70
US-127 (DeWitt to St. Johns): 75
US-127 (Ithaca to Grayling): 75
US-131 (Portage to Cedar Springs): 70
US-131 (Cedar Springs to Manton): 75

GaryV

Quote from: ftballfan on May 13, 2020, 07:22:35 PM
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M-14 (west of US-23): 65
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And 70 again from the top of the hill west of the Huron River bridge to I-94.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: roadfro on May 13, 2020, 11:59:14 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 13, 2020, 11:36:33 AM
Quote from: roadfro on May 13, 2020, 11:01:15 AM
Nevada

Urban freeways are limited to 65 mph, which comprise the bulk of non-interstate freeway facilities:
*US 395, from I-80 in Reno north to the California state line
*Summerlin Pkwy in Las Vegas
*CC 215 in Las Vegas
*US 95 in Las Vegas, from I-15 west/north to the city limits near SR 157

With the conversion of the US 95/SR 157 junction to an interchange, we now have a short stretch of 70mph non-interstate freeway:
*US 95 northwest of Las Vegas, from SR 157 to just north of the Snow Mountain interchange
Isn't there a 4 lane expressway posted at 75 south of Vegas?
Expressway ≠ Freeway

That can be more of a regional thing though. The Northeast US really doesn't use freeway all that often. An Expressway often has the same meaning as a Freeway elsewhere.

Roadgeekteen

I guess I'll do all the freeways in Massachusetts

MA 24: 65
MA 140: 65
MA 213: 55
MA 57: 55
MA 2: 55
US 3: 55 :banghead:
MA 3: 60
Lowell Connector: 55?
US 44: 55
US 1 55?
MA 1A  don't know
US 6: 55 on 4 lane stretch, 50 on 2 lane stretch
MA 128: 55
MA 146: 65
MA 28: 55?

Surprising the number of 55s even outside 128. Some of these could really use an increase.
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Ben114

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 13, 2020, 08:39:51 PM

MA 146: 65

146 is only 65 through ~ mile 13. North of that it goes like this:

- 55 until a decrease to 40 for the Boston Rd light
- 50 until ~ mile 16
- 55 until I-290

Pink Jazz

Arizona caps non-Interstates to 65 mph, freeway or not.  I personally think in the Phoenix area, The Loop 101 Agua Fria Freeway, the Loop 202 SanTan and South Mountain Freeways, the 202 Red Mountain east of Loop 101, and the freeway portions of Loop 303 can handle 70 mph.  Also I think I-10 east of US 60, I-10 west of the Loop 202 SMF, and and I-17 north of Loop 101 can handle 70 mph.

Outside the Phoenix area, the freeway portion of SR 89A in Prescott/Prescott Valley I think can handle 70 mph.

deathtopumpkins

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 13, 2020, 08:39:51 PM
Lowell Connector: 55?
Yup.

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US 1 55?
For a brief stretch in Revere, yes.

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MA 1A  don't know
45 max, mostly much lower
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roadfro

Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 13, 2020, 07:42:24 PM
Quote from: roadfro on May 13, 2020, 11:59:14 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 13, 2020, 11:36:33 AM
Quote from: roadfro on May 13, 2020, 11:01:15 AM
Nevada

Urban freeways are limited to 65 mph, which comprise the bulk of non-interstate freeway facilities:
*US 395, from I-80 in Reno north to the California state line
*Summerlin Pkwy in Las Vegas
*CC 215 in Las Vegas
*US 95 in Las Vegas, from I-15 west/north to the city limits near SR 157

With the conversion of the US 95/SR 157 junction to an interchange, we now have a short stretch of 70mph non-interstate freeway:
*US 95 northwest of Las Vegas, from SR 157 to just north of the Snow Mountain interchange
Isn't there a 4 lane expressway posted at 75 south of Vegas?
Expressway ≠ Freeway

That can be more of a regional thing though. The Northeast US really doesn't use freeway all that often. An Expressway often has the same meaning as a Freeway elsewhere.

True. However, Roadgeekteen (whose profile indicates he resides in the Northeast) specifically used the term "freeway" in the thread title and in the OP, so...

I will confirm that the divided highway portions of US 95 south of Boulder City are marked at 75mph, which is (to my knowledge) the only time you'll see a 75 speed limit on a non-freeway in Nevada.
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jakeroot

Quote from: doorknob60 on May 11, 2020, 06:06:28 PM
Washington gets it right, there is no speed limit discrimination between Interstates and non-Interstates. US-395 is 70 MPH between Pasco and Ritzville just like the rural interstates are. Though, there are some examples where their choices are questionable, such as the US-101/WA-8/US-12 expressway between Olympia and Aberdeen, which is posted at 60. If 70 is too fast for some reason, 65 would feel a lot more reasonable. For what it's worth, to my knowledge the highest 2 lane limit is 65, seen on quite a few highways including WA-14 and US-97.

I also do not know of any posted two-lane roads above 65 in WA. There's no statutory cap on two-lane roads, but I've not seen one posted above 65. As far as the limits themselves, WA doesn't seem to use increments of 5 for their freeways. Everything is either 60 or 70. The two exceptions are I-90 over Snoqualmie Pass (sometimes lowered to 65), and WA-410 (55 for some reason). Limits up to 75 are allowed, but have not been posted yet (as I'm sure you know). WA definitely does not discriminate based on route type since everything is a state route at a basic level anyways, although they've practically limited state routes to 60 simply by not building any super-rural state route freeways. WA-8, WA-16, and WA-18 could all qualify, but don't meet "typical" criteria because they're too close to suburbia, the segments wouldn't be long enough, etc. Evidently, having regular turns is not a disqualifier (US-395 has plenty of regular intersections), so WA-8 and WA-16 would still be OK in this regard, but the other issues might be the bigger reasons. A completed WA-18 should qualify for 70.

Oddly, although US-395 meets "freeway" criteria for WSDOT, the regular left and right turns at several points might disqualify it for this thread, leaving only rural interstates posted at 70, certainly giving the impression that WA does have a special limit for interstates. But all things considered, this definitely isn't correct, since US-395 is posted at 70, and it's a US Route (it's just not a freeway by roadgeek standards).

CoreySamson

Texas does not have a rule dictating interstates must have higher speed limits than other freeways.

However, all the freeways in the Houston area are capped at 65 for emission reasons.

Here's some of the south Texas ones outside the Houston standard.

TX 288 is 60 thru Lake Jackson
TX 21/71 is 65 thru Bastrop
TX 45 goes up to 80
TX 130, of course, is 85
TX 1 in Austin is 65
TX 6 goes up to 75
Loop 1604 goes up to 70
US 287/69/96 goes up to 75

I may be wrong, but I don't think there is a freeway in Texas with a speed limit under 60.





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jakeroot

Quote from: CoreySamson on May 15, 2020, 05:34:21 PM
I may be wrong, but I don't think there is a freeway in Texas with a speed limit under 60.

Wasn't Houston capped at 55 for a while? (I know it's not now).

sprjus4

Quote from: jakeroot on May 15, 2020, 05:50:09 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on May 15, 2020, 05:34:21 PM
I may be wrong, but I don't think there is a freeway in Texas with a speed limit under 60.

Wasn't Houston capped at 55 for a while? (I know it's not now).
Every non-interstate highway was capped at 55 until 1995.

sprjus4

Quote from: CoreySamson on May 15, 2020, 05:34:21 PM
However, all the freeways in the Houston area are capped at 65 for emission reasons.
Isn't Loop 99 70 mph?



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