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Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« on: May 07, 2021, 02:16:20 PM »

Discussions about what freeways need six lanes are common but are there any highways that even six lanes isn't enough?
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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2021, 02:19:06 PM »

Pretty much all of I-5 from Olympia until Everett.
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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2021, 03:21:02 PM »

I-95 between the Delaware state line and Richmond, VA.

I-75 could use 8 lanes between Fort Myers and Naples, Venice and Tampa, and north of the Turnpike merge for a while.
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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2021, 03:21:53 PM »

Has I-75 between Findlay and Troy, Ohio popped up? I feel like discussing the need to widen it from four lanes to six Lanes. I drove in the northbound direction on this stretch (been in both directions many times) yesterday and it's an 80 mile stretch I would say for probably about 60 miles of the stretch I fought with truck traffic in the left lane and in the right lane it didn't matter there was about a 10-mile stretch where you had about 10 trucks trying to pass everything in the right lane. Totally ridiculous and totally justified for six lanes of traffic it's the only stretch of I-75 in Ohio that has four lanes. Get to work ODOT.
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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2021, 03:22:57 PM »

Has I-75 between Findlay and Troy, Ohio popped up?

Yours was only the third reply to the OP.
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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2021, 03:24:16 PM »

Has I-75 between Findlay and Troy, Ohio popped up?

Yours was only the third reply to the OP.
Oh ok well I guess it hasn't maybe I-75 in that stretch needs more than six lanes.
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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2021, 03:26:28 PM »

Is the problem truck traffic or traffic in general with regards to that part of I-75? If truck traffic is the main problem, a third lane for a total of six would seem to suffice. In essence, a passing lane for cars around slow trucks in the right 2 lanes. Not sure if another 4th lane each way would be warranted.
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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2021, 03:30:09 PM »

I think that I-75 in Michigan needs to be at least six lanes all the way from the state line to at least the split with US 23 near Standish.  There's a 4-mile stretch between mile marker 111 and 115 near Flint that is still four lanes. Other than some random passing lanes that aren't very long I-75 is four lanes north of mile marker 164 to the northern terminus in Sault Ste Marie. I would say that it should be eight lanes in northern Oakland County too.
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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2021, 03:31:57 PM »

Is the problem truck traffic or traffic in general with regards to that part of I-75? If truck traffic is the main problem, a third lane for a total of six would seem to suffice. In essence, a passing lane for cars around slow trucks in the right 2 lanes. Not sure if another 4th lane each way would be warranted.
It's a lot of truck traffic it's the corridor between Cincinnati and Detroit which generates a lot of traffic for some reason  especially truck traffic. Trucks are frustrating to drive around all they do is clog up the highway.
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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2021, 03:59:07 PM »

Leaning more on the side of unreasonable... I-94 in all of Indiana.
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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2021, 04:01:59 PM »

Leaning more on the side of unreasonable... I-94 in all of Indiana.

I wasn't sure how confidently I could call that "rural".
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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2021, 04:10:43 PM »

Has I-75 between Findlay and Troy, Ohio popped up?

Yours was only the third reply to the OP.
Oh ok well I guess it hasn't maybe I-75 in that stretch needs more than six lanes.

It only has four lanes right now, so wouldn't it make more sense to suggest widening to six lanes first?
Pretty hard to know if it needs eight lanes without first knowing how it functions with six.

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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2021, 04:14:56 PM »

Knightdale Bypass from I-440 to I-540.

I-40 from US-15/501 to NC-147

I-540 from I-40 to US-1.

Maybe the NJ turnpike down to the Del Memorial Bridge, but unlikely.
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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2021, 04:22:52 PM »

Knightdale Bypass from I-440 to I-540.

I-40 from US-15/501 to NC-147

I-540 from I-40 to US-1.

Maybe the NJ turnpike down to the Del Memorial Bridge, but unlikely.

I might add the "rural" stretches of I-25 from Colorado Springs to Fort Collins.  If it were remotely possible, I-70 from Denver to Vail.

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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2021, 05:18:48 PM »

Has I-75 between Findlay and Troy, Ohio popped up?

Yours was only the third reply to the OP.
Oh ok well I guess it hasn't maybe I-75 in that stretch needs more than six lanes.

It only has four lanes right now, so wouldn't it make more sense to suggest widening to six lanes first?
Pretty hard to know if it needs eight lanes without first knowing how it functions with six.
Well it does need at least six. Any time I've traveled through there it's been a giant mess of trucks clogging up both lanes. I hate them they take forever to pass another truck that's going like 2 or 3 mph slower. It's just truck after truck after truck after truck and both US-23 and I-94 in Michigan can be added to that.
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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2021, 07:29:24 PM »

There’s still a short 6 lane section of I-75 between I-275 and I-675 on the northern end of the segment, when most of it is 8 lanes. Would be nice to see the 8 lane portion extended to at least I-675.
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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2021, 07:37:07 PM »

Also, what I said above might get HO/T lanes.
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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2021, 11:24:30 PM »

Interstate 81 between I-83 and I-78 comes to mind...

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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2021, 12:36:29 AM »

Interstate 81 between I-83 and I-78 comes to mind...
Nah, six would be fine. Driving that feels too cramped, but it doesn't seem like anything that couldn't be fixed with just one more each way,
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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2021, 01:40:02 AM »

Pretty much all of I-5 from Olympia until Everett.

Although most of that is already at least eight lanes. Good portions are ten lanes. Although I also wouldn't call that corridor rural.

Through the bases, north-east of Olympia, they are currently widening the freeway to eight lanes. Should be done by summer.

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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2021, 02:20:03 AM »

Pretty much all of I-5 from Olympia until Everett.

Although most of that is already at least eight lanes. Good portions are ten lanes. Although I also wouldn't call that corridor rural.

Through the bases, north-east of Olympia, they are currently widening the freeway to eight lanes. Should be done by summer.

Oh, that's good.  They've been a bottleneck.
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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2021, 07:02:14 AM »

It'd be a stretch to call this rural, but I-5 from I-205 to OR 551.

Not convinced I-5 would need it down to Salem though. Better to get it 6 lanes from Kuebler Blvd to OR 58 first.
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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2021, 09:38:00 AM »

There’s still a short 6 lane section of I-75 between I-275 and I-675 on the northern end of the segment, when most of it is 8 lanes. Would be nice to see the 8 lane portion extended to at least I-675.
At least it's not four lanes that would be awful.
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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2021, 02:49:42 PM »

I-10 from I-20 to El Paso
I-95 from Bangor to Houlton, ME
I-94 from Billings to Fargo
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Re: Rural freeways that need more than six lanes
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2021, 02:57:56 PM »

I-10 from I-20 to El Paso
That segment doesn’t even need 6 lanes, let alone 8. It carries 15,000 - 20,000 AADT, and doesn’t even get to 30,000 AADT until you reach the El Paso metropolitan area.
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