Alternatives to four-way stops

[tolbs17]

https://connect.ncdot.gov/resources/safety/TrafficSafetyResources/VEWF.pdf

Will these be more useful? We have a several of these here in Pitt County.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5141933,-77.3191371,3a,47.9y,180.08h,91.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sS2o7NU0zAWuj7fDp61T8Mg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This one doesn't have them surprisingly.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.4348773,-76.8905067,3a,75y,227.82h,94.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZMeIgKsYXbq57xua5lQsyg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

[hotdogPi]

What four-way stops are you referring to? The last link is only a two-way stop.

[tolbs17]

What four-way stops are you referring to? The last link is only a two-way stop.

Like here - https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1228131,-77.1725666,3a,75y,209.75h,86.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8CTA7JhvARwYPw0bFcSrfw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

[Dirt Roads]

Perhaps tolbs17 is referring to a newer practice by NCDOT to change 2-way stops to 4-way stops due to the occasional occurrence of fatal and near-fatal accidents.  We live close to an intersection that was [upgraded] to a four-way stop a few years ago because of confusion of which one was the "main road".  On the other hand, an intersection on Old Number 10 east of Hillsborough was [downgraded] to a four-way stop five or six years ago presumably for the same reason.

[Bitmapped]

I've seen similar setups used before in Pennsylvania and Kentucky. The Pennsylvania example on PA 38 at PA 138 north of Butler is much more advanced - it has fiber optic displays on the side road displaying animations of moving cars showing which direction they are coming from. GMSV: https://goo.gl/maps/YHCa6h1yktW6Sn8v5

I like including the displays, both on side road and main road, in cases where there are sight distance limitations. They can eliminate the need for placing 4-way stops or traffic signals to address the sight distance problems when traffic volumes don't want those approaches.

In cases where there are already clear sight lines or they can easily be made clear like in the NC 43 example, I wouldn't use them.

[tolbs17]

I've seen similar setups used before in Pennsylvania and Kentucky. The Pennsylvania example on PA 38 at PA 138 north of Butler is much more advanced - it has fiber optic displays on the side road displaying animations of moving cars showing which direction they are coming from. GMSV: https://goo.gl/maps/YHCa6h1yktW6Sn8v5

I like including the displays, both on side road and main road, in cases where there are sight distance limitations. They can eliminate the need for placing 4-way stops or traffic signals to address the sight distance problems when traffic volumes don't want those approaches.

In cases where there are already clear sight lines or they can easily be made clear like in the NC 43 example, I wouldn't use them.

What do you think about NC 33 and 43?

[tolbs17]

Can the Moye-Turnage Rd and US-258 (Wesley Church Rd) intersection do well with a vehicle entering when flashing?