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Started by hbelkins, August 29, 2012, 10:25:11 AM

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Eastern Oklahoma:



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Scott5114

Spiro is in eastern Oklahoma. Not too far from Fort Smith, actually.
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formulanone

Leaning towers of redundant sine salad in Selma:


US71

Quote from: Scott5114 on November 26, 2019, 12:13:59 AM
Spiro is in eastern Oklahoma. Not too far from Fort Smith, actually.

About 14 miles to my front door :)

The Ft Smith assembly has an error, BTW: 271 no longer intersects here but begins about 4 miles to the south along 71B
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Verlanka

Quote from: formulanone on May 24, 2020, 08:12:40 PM
Leaning towers of redundant sine salad in Selma:


TRUCK AL 22 EAST seems to be missing.

Ned Weasel

Quote from: formulanone on May 24, 2020, 08:12:40 PM
Leaning towers of redundant sine salad in Selma:

I'd like to see the next MUTCD outline a strategy to streamline such horrid sign assemblies.

Kansas has a nice solution to "sine salad" that I wish more states would adopt: https://goo.gl/maps/DD3B1VzjGf6HaLj78
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formulanone

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Quote from: Verlanka on May 25, 2020, 05:12:44 AM
Quote from: formulanone on May 24, 2020, 08:12:40 PM
Leaning towers of redundant sine salad in Selma:


TRUCK AL 22 EAST seems to be missing.

I'm on AL 22 West, but yeah, it seems absent.

The Truck designations are to keep traffic away from US 80 in downtown Selma, where there's lots of traffic lights and the 1930's-era Edmund Pettus Bridge probably can't take much more weight. But the Truck designations are redundant - it should just have a NO THRU TRUCKS sign and leave off three shields. Alabama isn't shy about just creating a new route number instead of just using an existing number and making a Business or Truck route, though they're not completely unheard of.

roadfro

Quote from: stridentweasel on May 25, 2020, 11:28:01 AM
Quote from: formulanone on May 24, 2020, 08:12:40 PM
Leaning towers of redundant sine salad in Selma:

I'd like to see the next MUTCD outline a strategy to streamline such horrid sign assemblies.

The agencies could start by eliminating redundancies and unnecessary overlaps in route alignments. I mean, is there a reason Truck US 80 exists here when it seems to be concurrent with its mainline counterpart?
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US71

Quote from: roadfro on May 25, 2020, 03:21:54 PM
Quote from: stridentweasel on May 25, 2020, 11:28:01 AM
Quote from: formulanone on May 24, 2020, 08:12:40 PM
Leaning towers of redundant sine salad in Selma:

I'd like to see the next MUTCD outline a strategy to streamline such horrid sign assemblies.

The agencies could start by eliminating redundancies and unnecessary overlaps in route alignments. I mean, is there a reason Truck US 80 exists here when it seems to be concurrent with its mainline counterpart?

Arkansas does that already...sort of. They are lax about posting overlaps (like US 71 along I-49 and I-540)
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roadman65

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/5043752094/in/album-72157634118701383/
Dothan, AL has double the signs needed plus overhead which is simpler, but still a lot.
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US71

Quote from: roadman65 on May 26, 2020, 06:45:17 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/5043752094/in/album-72157634118701383/
Dothan, AL has double the signs needed plus overhead which is simpler, but still a lot.

What's with the overhead 431? The run out of larger numbers?
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Mapmikey

Quote from: US71 on May 26, 2020, 07:16:38 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 26, 2020, 06:45:17 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/5043752094/in/album-72157634118701383/
Dothan, AL has double the signs needed plus overhead which is simpler, but still a lot.

What's with the overhead 431? The run out of larger numbers?

Zoomed in you can see it is a cutout shield of 431 patched onto the sign.
https://goo.gl/maps/5ShWFvgCin7EZz2A9

The oldest available GMSV from Feb 2008 shows it this way then.  First guess is they accidentally had a 231 under it.

STLmapboy

Didn't realize how sloppy the sine salads in downtown STL were getting.


Probably already mentioned in this thread, but these were put up between 2011 and 2014 to replace cool old multi-route shields like these.
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kurumi

Small salad, but most things in CT are small:
https://goo.gl/maps/5yVJ2HzDDgxfS5Qe7


This is on a city street (Maple Hill Ave. in Newington, northbound approaching Robbins Ave.). Both were unsigned routes (SR 537, SR 760) many years ago.

The sign is really helpful, especially for a local street, but the follow-up is a bit lacking. Continue north for CT 175, and there won't be a sign when you reach it. Same for turning east to CT 173. You'll have to just know it when you see it. For CT 176, however, the least important of the three, there are CT 176 signs, possibly because Robbins Ave. continues as CT 287.

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Quote from: cjk374 on March 20, 2021, 08:31:08 PM
Did someone order a super-size salad??

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This is a rather respectable pair of sign gantries, except I'd nitpick the placement of the "LSU Medical Center" tab.
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ClassicHasClass

I agree, it doesn't seem that excessive. Actually, it seems like a decent layout.  :crazy:

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formulanone

Camden, Alabama has a few:





and in Monroeville, which has some rare state-route alternates:




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