Covid vaccination status?

[Max Rockatansky]

Theoretically, not wearing a mask indoors in Oklahoma City could get you a $9 fine.

Though they'd only issue the fine if they were fining you for something else already and just tack the mask fine on top of it.

But the very thought! $9! Who can afford $9!

Once again, the rich who can pay the fine can do whatever and the poor which can't afford to spend $9 every time get screwed over.

If you can't afford a $9 one time fine you're financial situation probably is beyond dire.

[webny99]

anyway, we're hijacking the thread again.

By the time we reach herd immunity, it will be locked I'm sure.

any time you say "i'm sure" about something getting moderated a certain way it kind of makes me want to do the opposite, just sayin'

So it sounds like this thread will be open for a while then!   

[CoreySamson]

Am I the only person who would gladly take the Sinovac vaccine if it were offered here?

[Scott5114]

Theoretically, not wearing a mask indoors in Oklahoma City could get you a $9 fine.

Though they'd only issue the fine if they were fining you for something else already and just tack the mask fine on top of it.

But the very thought! $9! Who can afford $9!

Once again, the rich who can pay the fine can do whatever and the poor which can't afford to spend $9 every time get screwed over.

And, I mean, you can just wear a mask and not get fined. They are legitimately free in some cases.

That being said, as I mentioned upthread, the fine isn't even being assessed in most cases. If you're not wearing a mask, OCPD isn't going to write you a ticket for just that. You can be asked to leave by the business and OCPD will enforce that if you won't leave. If you're being unruly and commit some other offense and get arrested, they toss the $9 on top of whatever else they charge you with.

[Ketchup99]

Am I the only person who would gladly take the Sinovac vaccine if it were offered here?

Yeah... yeah, you probably are...

[Roadgeekteen]

Am I the only person who would gladly take the Sinovac vaccine if it were offered here?

Do you already have another vaccine?

[noelbotevera]

Got the second shot yesterday; I'll be all-clear by May 21st. Went on to get a fondue dinner that night and then took the SATs the following morning.

Yes, I'm tired.

Also, what if we injected both vaccines at the same time? Double the immunity, y'all. Use up that unused stock faster.

[CoreySamson]

Am I the only person who would gladly take the Sinovac vaccine if it were offered here?

Do you already have another vaccine?

No.

[Roadgeekteen]

Am I the only person who would gladly take the Sinovac vaccine if it were offered here?

Do you already have another vaccine?

No.

It's fairly easy to get vaccines now, so go get a Pfizer. It's much better than Sinovac.

[Ketchup99]

I guess my question is, why Sinovac? Its efficacy seems to be around 67%, and the Seychelles, which have about 60% of their population inoculated with Sinovac, are seeing a new surge. Pfizer, Moderna, and even J&J, by contrast, are all more effective. At this point, I'm not sure why you'd take a J&J, but Pfizer vaccines are 90-95% effective and way better than the Sinovac shot.

[noelbotevera]

Am I the only person who would gladly take the Sinovac vaccine if it were offered here?

Do you already have another vaccine?

No.

Maybe he wants access to the Chinese 5G network.

[tolbs17]

We offer Pfizer/Biontech, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson. They are all better than Sinovac. We are not getting the Sinovac. Hell, I don't even think we even need the AstraZeneca one!

Novavax could seek approval soon after we get results from the phase 3 trials.

[Ketchup99]

We offer Pfizer/Biontech, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson. They are all better than Sinovac. We are not getting the Sinovac. Hell, I don't even think we even need the AstraZeneca one!

Novavax could seek approval soon after we get results from the phase 3 trials.

Although it's dumb that it hasn't been approved, I don't think we need AstraZeneca either. Honestly, at this point, I don't think we need Johnson and Johnson. Pfizer and Moderna are so readily available, and supply is so small an issue at this point, that a ~70% effective vaccine can be removed from the vaccine program in favor of 95% effective shots.

[Roadgeekteen]

The problem in America right now is not vaccine supply, it's vaccine demand.

[tolbs17]

We offer Pfizer/Biontech, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson. They are all better than Sinovac. We are not getting the Sinovac. Hell, I don't even think we even need the AstraZeneca one!

Novavax could seek approval soon after we get results from the phase 3 trials.

Although it's dumb that it hasn't been approved

Probably cause the FDA has seen numerous countries pause the use of it due to the blood clots.

[tolbs17]

The problem in America right now is not vaccine supply, it's vaccine demand.

12-15 year olds getting vaccinated will get a boost for sure.

[Rothman]

The problem in America right now is not vaccine supply, it's vaccine demand.

12-15 year olds getting vaccinated will get a boost for sure.

I do think the reluctant or indignant adults are still a stupefying issue.  What brats.

[oscar]

Honestly, at this point, I don't think we need Johnson and Johnson. Pfizer and Moderna are so readily available, and supply is so small an issue at this point, that a ~70% effective vaccine can be removed from the vaccine program in favor of 95% effective shots.

J&J has advantages, that make it popular with some people who might refuse the other vaccines (mainly that it's one-shot), make it easier to provide to populations where super-cold refrigeration isn't practical, and work better for other populations like the homeless and migrant farmworkers who are hard to chase down to get their second shots. I was given a choice between one- and two-dose vaccines, and opted for the latter, but would not criticize the choices of those who got J&J.

[tolbs17]

Honestly, at this point, I don't think we need Johnson and Johnson. Pfizer and Moderna are so readily available, and supply is so small an issue at this point, that a ~70% effective vaccine can be removed from the vaccine program in favor of 95% effective shots.

J&J has advantages, that make it popular with some people who might refuse the other vaccines (mainly that it's one-shot), make it easier to provide to populations where super-cold refrigeration isn't practical, and work better for other populations like the homeless and migrant farmworkers who are hard to chase down to get their second shots. I was given a choice between one- and two-dose vaccines, and opted for the latter, but would not criticize the choices of those who got J&J.

And like the Detroit governor declining that one cause it was not as effective.

[vdeane]

We offer Pfizer/Biontech, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson. They are all better than Sinovac. We are not getting the Sinovac. Hell, I don't even think we even need the AstraZeneca one!

Novavax could seek approval soon after we get results from the phase 3 trials.

Although it's dumb that it hasn't been approved

Probably cause the FDA has seen numerous countries pause the use of it due to the blood clots.

Plus there are questions about how effective it really is, given the issues in their studies (and more pop up every time they clear up the prior issues).  And they're a two-shot vaccine that's only as effective as the single-shot J&J vaccine, so it's basically the worst of both worlds, at least from a patient perspective.  Really the only advantage to approving it would be increased supply, but that really isn't an issue right now, at least not here.  Better to just give our supply of that one to countries that need it more.

[tolbs17]

We offer Pfizer/Biontech, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson. They are all better than Sinovac. We are not getting the Sinovac. Hell, I don't even think we even need the AstraZeneca one!

Novavax could seek approval soon after we get results from the phase 3 trials.

Although it's dumb that it hasn't been approved

Probably cause the FDA has seen numerous countries pause the use of it due to the blood clots.

Plus there are questions about how effective it really is, given the issues in their studies (and more pop up every time they clear up the prior issues).  And they're a two-shot vaccine that's only as effective as the single-shot J&J vaccine, so it's basically the worst of both worlds, at least from a patient perspective.  Really the only advantage to approving it would be increased supply, but that really isn't an issue right now, at least not here.  Better to just give our supply of that one to countries that need it more.

Like Africa and India.

[bugo]

I got both shots of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. The only side effect I felt was a slight soreness in the arm where the shots were given. Other than that, I had zero noticeable effects. I would do it again in a heartbeat.

[Scott5114]

I got both shots of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. The only side effect I felt was a slight soreness in the arm where the shots were given. Other than that, I had zero noticeable effects. I would do it again in a heartbeat.

Were you able to get both of yours close in to town? I went to Ada for my first dose and Eufaula for my second because it was difficult getting a vaccination slot in the OKC metro at the time I got mine.

[J N Winkler]

I guess my question is, why Sinovac? Its efficacy seems to be around 67%, and the Seychelles, which have about 60% of their population inoculated with Sinovac, are seeing a new surge. Pfizer, Moderna, and even J&J, by contrast, are all more effective. At this point, I'm not sure why you'd take a J&J, but Pfizer vaccines are 90-95% effective and way better than the Sinovac shot.

My personal preference would be for a vaccine with high headline efficacy--Pfizer, Moderna, maybe Sputnik V if it passes the sniff test from the European Medicines Agency or another SRA--but there is a theory that inactivated-virus vaccines like Sinovac, Sinopharm, Covaxin, and so on experience less of a drop in effectiveness against variants because they use the whole virus and so elicit a more comprehensive immune response.

[hbelkins]

Got the second shot yesterday; I'll be all-clear by May 21st. Went on to get a fondue dinner that night and then took the SATs the following morning.

Yes, I'm tired.

Also, what if we injected both vaccines at the same time? Double the immunity, y'all. Use up that unused stock faster.

I saw an unsourced reference over the weekend about someone who had taken both doses of both the Pfizer and Moderna shots, and still ended up catching it.

The problem in America right now is not vaccine supply, it's vaccine demand.

12-15 year olds getting vaccinated will get a boost for sure.

I do think the reluctant or indignant adults are still a stupefying issue.  What brats.

Still can't accept that some people think differently than you do?