Florida

[UptownRoadGeek]

Does anyone know the status of or have any information on the Palmetto/Dolphin interchange around Miami? I remember seeing some plans for it a while back and was just curious.

[formulanone]

The expectation is 2015 for the FL 836/826 interchange. Under construction since 2010, I recall.

[emory]

I know this doesn't matter to motorists, but I do wish the Sawgrass Expressway would modify its exit signs so they don't acknowledge certain exits as state roads. Either replace them with county shields, pull them completely, or add a "TO" next to them. Right now the only state road that touches the freeway is US 441/SR 7. I-75/I-595 notwithstanding.

[formulanone]

Since the county shields are rarely used in Broward County - even less so than Los Angeles County - I think that will only serve to confuse. The road name essentially suffices in that area, and maps/navigation will show the number (even if technically incorrect). Most of the signage was installed around 2008, when FL 869 was widened to six lanes, although there's a few somewhat older ones out there.

Despite a lot of split-maintenance routes, there's not many examples in Florida of them displayed together on the same BGS. You do see them frequently displayed as trailblazers, however.

[emory]

Yes I've found very few county shields in Broward, and they're usually on FL 817 or US 441, but even I-75 south of I-595 keeps its overhead signage up to date, with Pines Blvd now the only exit carrying a state shield. The Griffin Rd, Sheridan St, and Miramar Pkwy exits are simply blank.

[NE2]

Better the wrong shield than no shield.

[emory]

I'd take the no shield option, since Broward doesn't sign county roads. The overhead CR 814 signs at University Drive in Coral Springs are probably the only ones in the whole county.

[NE2]

I'd take the no shield option, since Broward doesn't sign county roads. The overhead CR 814 signs at University Drive in Coral Springs are probably the only ones in the whole county.

Who does no shield benefit? Having a shield, even the wrong shield, helps those who are looking for a certain route and don't know/care that it doesn't make it all the way to 869.

[formulanone]

I'd take the no shield option, since Broward doesn't sign county roads. The overhead CR 814 signs at University Drive in Coral Springs are probably the only ones in the whole county.

Certainly one of the few overheads with multiple MUTCD pentagons I've seen anywhere in the state. Despite the traffic, the strict mileage cap set by FDOT means it probably won't change back to SR status any time soon. Florida seems to have that habit of putting the yellow square around the pentagons, presumably for visibility - it's almost unreadable on a green background.

[Brian556]

I don't see how the yellow background is needed for visability. All it does is make the signs look like shit. Every other state that has shielded county roads does not use the yellow background.

[NE2]

Every other state that has shielded county roads does not use the yellow background.

Or not.
http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/nj/i-78/e.html
http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/nj/i-78/w.html
http://www.okroads.com/052003/i80iaexit17.JPG (white background)

[emory]

I'd take the no shield option, since Broward doesn't sign county roads. The overhead CR 814 signs at University Drive in Coral Springs are probably the only ones in the whole county.

Who does no shield benefit? Having a shield, even the wrong shield, helps those who are looking for a certain route and don't know/care that it doesn't make it all the way to 869.

It's safe to say the local residents refer to these roads by their names and not their route numbers. Even state freeways.

Certainly one of the few overheads with multiple MUTCD pentagons I've seen anywhere in the state. Despite the traffic, the strict mileage cap set by FDOT means it probably won't change back to SR status any time soon.

It doesn't seem like FDOT wants to maintain any local roads west of FL 817 in north Broward or FL 823 in south Broward, or it's possible the cities don't want them to either. Right now only FL 820 reaches all the way to US 27, and it wouldn't surprise me if they relinquished that piece in the near future.

[xcellntbuy]

I'd take the no shield option, since Broward doesn't sign county roads. The overhead CR 814 signs at University Drive in Coral Springs are probably the only ones in the whole county.

Certainly one of the few overheads with multiple MUTCD pentagons I've seen anywhere in the state. Despite the traffic, the strict mileage cap set by FDOT means it probably won't change back to SR status any time soon. Florida seems to have that habit of putting the yellow square around the pentagons, presumably for visibility - it's almost unreadable on a green background.

I travel under these shields every morning in the dark and they are non-reflective to the point of looking almost black, even close-up.

[NE2]

It's safe to say the local residents refer to these roads by their names and not their route numbers. Even state freeways.

Local residents are not the intended audience.

[brickbuilder711]

I'd take the no shield option, since Broward doesn't sign county roads. The overhead CR 814 signs at University Drive in Coral Springs are probably the only ones in the whole county.

Even though no overhead signage, CR 811 which appears to be a 3/10 mile section of Dixie Highway is also signed as of the Dixie Flyover project.

[andy3175]

It's safe to say the local residents refer to these roads by their names and not their route numbers. Even state freeways.

Local residents are not the intended audience.

Completely agree. Route numbers help the motoring public to identify through routes. It's OK if locals call a route by name; it's also OK if a route number is assigned to help non-locals to find their way around town.

I wish we had a more robust county signing system like this in California.

Regards,
Andy

[formulanone]

I'd take the no shield option, since Broward doesn't sign county roads. The overhead CR 814 signs at University Drive in Coral Springs are probably the only ones in the whole county.

Even though no overhead signage, CR 811 which appears to be a 3/10 mile section of Dixie Highway is also signed as of the Dixie Flyover project.

Yeah, there's a shield...with a white banner. I wonder if a state road sign was mounted there until the last minute.

[roadman65]

It's safe to say the local residents refer to these roads by their names and not their route numbers. Even state freeways.

Local residents are not the intended audience.

To bad the City of Baltimore does not take this into consideration for US 1 that has sparse to none signing along its route through this major city.

Also in our very own backyard there are a few places around Orlando that forget about tourists and fail to keep up on shield maintenance.  Rosalind Avenue since it took the identity of SR 527 NB from Magnolia is one of many I can point out.

[cpzilliacus]

It's safe to say the local residents refer to these roads by their names and not their route numbers. Even state freeways.

Local residents are not the intended audience.

To bad the City of Baltimore does not take this into consideration for US 1 that has sparse to none signing along its route through this major city.

U.S. 40 is not much better in Baltimore.

Then there's the matter of U.S. 1 Alternate in Washington, D.C. - it simply is not signed - at all.

Also in our very own backyard there are a few places around Orlando that forget about tourists and fail to keep up on shield maintenance.  Rosalind Avenue since it took the identity of SR 527 NB from Magnolia is one of many I can point out.

Yes, maintaining signs is more important in places with lots of visitor/tourist traffic.  Not that D.C. is especially concerned about same.

[Brian556]

In the Orlando area, Orange County does not have it's county routes properly signed. Signage is very hit and miss.

[FLRoads]

Florida senators want to increase speed limit to 75 on highways

The proposed increase would be along rural interstates. The measure will go before Legislation during the 2014 session.

[realjd]

Florida senators want to increase speed limit to 75 on highways

The proposed increase would be along rural interstates. The measure will go before Legislation during the 2014 session.

+1

Traffic moves well above 70 already so they may as well legalize it.

I've heard from a few of my cop neighbors and friends that the unofficial rule is less than 85 and they won't bother pulling you over unless you're otherwise driving like a dick or fit the profile of a drug runner car. I wonder if the tolerance there will go up as well. I have a hard time believing that FHP will raise their tolerance limit to 90.

[emory]

In the Orlando area, Orange County does not have it's county routes properly signed. Signage is very hit and miss.

And there's an awful lot in Orange County aren't there? At least they sign the SR 15 maintenance gap so motorists can continue the route. I guess that grew not long ago. The state relinquished SR 15 from the Beeline to Lee Vista.

[roadman65]

Florida senators want to increase speed limit to 75 on highways

The proposed increase would be along rural interstates. The measure will go before Legislation during the 2014 session.

Aligator Alley and parts of the Turnpike would benefit from being 75 and it would give more than enough miles of road to warrant it!   Look at LA with I-49, the 92 mile stretch from SR 70 to US 192, all of I-75 from Naples to Andytown, and parts of I-10 west of Tallahassee would be more miles than from Opelousas to Shreveport.

[NE2]

The new braided ramp at I-4 eastbound exit 65 (Osceola Parkway) is now open.