Regional Boards > Northeast
New York
Roadgeekteen:
--- Quote from: SignBridge on March 26, 2023, 08:03:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Rothman on March 26, 2023, 08:33:42 AM ---
--- Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 26, 2023, 01:29:12 AM ---I don't know if any of you recall the Taconic State Parkway crash back in the summer of 2009 which killed 8 people. I was of course to young to recall it, but I heard about somewhere and went into a rabbithole.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Taconic_State_Parkway_crash
The minivan was being driven by Diane Schuler, who was allegedly drunk. Her husband denies this, but her husband seems like a bit of a tool so whatever. There was a documentry made about it. Haven't watched it yet but I intend to eventually.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2011325/
I did read Jackie Hance's book (the mother of three of the girls killed and Diane's sister-in-law), and it mostly focuses on her experiences and famiy though it has some details on the crash. Just a warning, I don't cry much at all and this book made me cry.
https://www.amazon.com/Ill-See-Again-Jackie-Hance/dp/147675800X
The reason I bring this up on this forum is I saw many people on reddit blame the Taconic Parkway itself for the crash, as the road isn't super great. But I'm wondering is there an issue with the road or was this just a tragic accident (or not an accident)?
--- End quote ---
They were going the wrong direction on the Parkway. That's on them.
--- End quote ---
The exact cause of the crash was well established by the investigation. It was caused by the extremely drunk female driver of the van that drove south in the northbound lanes. Her state of intoxication was determined by the official autopsy. She entered the Parkway in the wrong direction by going the wrong way up an exit ramp that was clearly marked. Weather and visibility were excellent at the time.
That section of the Taconic Parkway is a rebuilt modern divided highway with completely controlled access. There was nothing wrong with the road; only with the errant driver. End of story.
There was another excellent book written about the accident and its investigation. The Taconic Tragedy, A Son's Search For The Truth, by Jeanne Bastardi, a relative of one of the people killed.
--- End quote ---
Apparently the Bastardi family sued the Warren Hance, the car's owner, in a lawsuit. They say it is because it was Warren's car which was driven, and that they were required too, but seems extremely shitty to sue the parents who just lost all 3 of their young children to a crash that from all the information given, was 0% their fault. The person at fault was Diane, and maybe her piece of shit husband who denied that his wife was drinking or doing drugs at the time. Apparently the HBO documentry has more about how this guy (Danny Schuler) is a terrible person. Then again everyone sued everyone so who knows at this point.
webny99:
Don't see this too often: Traffic heading the wrong way using an entrance ramp to exit I-590 due to a closure.
https://www.whec.com/local/traffic-diverted-on-590-after-incident/
Mr. Matté:
--- Quote from: SignBridge on March 26, 2023, 08:03:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Rothman on March 26, 2023, 08:33:42 AM ---
--- Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 26, 2023, 01:29:12 AM ---I don't know if any of you recall the Taconic State Parkway crash back in the summer of 2009 which killed 8 people. I was of course to young to recall it, but I heard about somewhere and went into a rabbithole.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Taconic_State_Parkway_crash
The minivan was being driven by Diane Schuler, who was allegedly drunk. Her husband denies this, but her husband seems like a bit of a tool so whatever. There was a documentry made about it. Haven't watched it yet but I intend to eventually.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2011325/
I did read Jackie Hance's book (the mother of three of the girls killed and Diane's sister-in-law), and it mostly focuses on her experiences and famiy though it has some details on the crash. Just a warning, I don't cry much at all and this book made me cry.
https://www.amazon.com/Ill-See-Again-Jackie-Hance/dp/147675800X
The reason I bring this up on this forum is I saw many people on reddit blame the Taconic Parkway itself for the crash, as the road isn't super great. But I'm wondering is there an issue with the road or was this just a tragic accident (or not an accident)?
--- End quote ---
They were going the wrong direction on the Parkway. That's on them.
--- End quote ---
The exact cause of the crash was well established by the investigation. It was caused by the extremely drunk female driver of the van that drove south in the northbound lanes. Her state of intoxication was determined by the official autopsy. She entered the Parkway in the wrong direction by going the wrong way up an exit ramp that was clearly marked. Weather and visibility were excellent at the time.
That section of the Taconic Parkway is a rebuilt modern divided highway with completely controlled access. There was nothing wrong with the road; only with the errant driver. End of story.
--- End quote ---
I do recall hearing in the news that the state specifically went back to the exit ramp where she allegedly entered the wrong way and put more and larger Do Not Enter / Wrong Way signs and new no left/right turns signs up. Compare the 2008 imagery to more recent times: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.142646,-73.8138526,3a,75y,338.02h,81.91t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sgZQv-syvITLSjlkLUWVhIw!2e0!5s20081101T000000!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en
(Edited for grammar)
kalvado:
--- Quote from: Mr. Matté on March 27, 2023, 04:30:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: SignBridge on March 26, 2023, 08:03:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Rothman on March 26, 2023, 08:33:42 AM ---
--- Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 26, 2023, 01:29:12 AM ---I don't know if any of you recall the Taconic State Parkway crash back in the summer of 2009 which killed 8 people. I was of course to young to recall it, but I heard about somewhere and went into a rabbithole.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Taconic_State_Parkway_crash
The minivan was being driven by Diane Schuler, who was allegedly drunk. Her husband denies this, but her husband seems like a bit of a tool so whatever. There was a documentry made about it. Haven't watched it yet but I intend to eventually.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2011325/
I did read Jackie Hance's book (the mother of three of the girls killed and Diane's sister-in-law), and it mostly focuses on her experiences and famiy though it has some details on the crash. Just a warning, I don't cry much at all and this book made me cry.
https://www.amazon.com/Ill-See-Again-Jackie-Hance/dp/147675800X
The reason I bring this up on this forum is I saw many people on reddit blame the Taconic Parkway itself for the crash, as the road isn't super great. But I'm wondering is there an issue with the road or was this just a tragic accident (or not an accident)?
--- End quote ---
They were going the wrong direction on the Parkway. That's on them.
--- End quote ---
The exact cause of the crash was well established by the investigation. It was caused by the extremely drunk female driver of the van that drove south in the northbound lanes. Her state of intoxication was determined by the official autopsy. She entered the Parkway in the wrong direction by going the wrong way up an exit ramp that was clearly marked. Weather and visibility were excellent at the time.
That section of the Taconic Parkway is a rebuilt modern divided highway with completely controlled access. There was nothing wrong with the road; only with the errant driver. End of story.
--- End quote ---
I do recall hearing in the news that the state specifically go back to the exit ramp where she allegedly entered the wrong way and put more and larger Do Not Enter / Wrong Way signs and new no left/right turns signs up. Compare the 2008 imagery to more recent times: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.142646,-73.8138526,3a,75y,338.02h,81.91t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sgZQv-syvITLSjlkLUWVhIw!2e0!5s20081101T000000!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en
--- End quote ---
I remember seeing statistics on people entering wrong way on a ramp. It is not a trivial problem statistically, 1.5% of total road deaths or so. Of course, alcohol is a strong correlation with wrong way as well...
RobbieL2415:
FWIW, it is generally illegal for minors (either with a permit or a license) to drive on any parkway in NYS or within NYC city limits.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version