I was originally thinking I'd hold off until September to start a thread about 2022 meets, but because the list is already growing, I figured it wouldn't hurt to start this now. (For the past few years, I've been the one to initiate this thread each year, which I'm happy to do, but I also didn't know if anyone else wanted to start the list instead of me.)
Anyway, we know that the COVID pandemic is unfortunately far from over... especially now that the Delta variant is taking hold and wreaking havoc. Vaccinations seem to be holding steady, but I read somewhere that the Delta variant is perhaps prompting some folks to get vaccinated that might not have done so otherwise. Regardless, the COVID virus is still unfortunately active and spreading. Despite that, I thought I would share some optimism and get us thinking about what road meets are being considered for 2022.
Here's what I know of so far:
- Natchez MS - March 19
- Waterbury/Meriden CT - April 2
West Irondequoit NY - April 2?- Outer Banks NC "city meet" (choose your own sightseeing) - April 30
Plattsburgh/Clinton County NY - spring?- Iowa City/Cedar Rapids IA - May 21
- Lynchburg VA - June 11
- SE Chicago/NW Indiana - June 25
- Durham (NC) East End Connector - July 30
- Schenectady/Amsterdam NY - August 6
- Philadelphia PA - August 20-21
Twin Cities (MN) - August 27 or September 3- Beloit/Janesville WI - September 3
- Central Pennsylvania (York/Lancaster/Harrisburg) -
April 23 September 24 - San Antonio TX - October 1
Cumberland MD - October 8?- Oklahoma City OK - October 22
Shawangunk NY?Nice Bridge/U.S. 301 (Dahlgren VA) mini-meet
I think I've captured all the tentative plans I've heard about so far. Most of these are tentatively being planned for the spring, but hopefully other ideas that tentative hosts have can be spread out to other times of the year so we don't have a whole bunch of meets in the spring and nothing until perhaps the Twin Cities meet at the end of summer.
If I've forgotten anything, please chime in! Hopefully the pandemic will be behind us by the beginning of 2022, but who knows. Since the beginning of the pandemic, several meet hosts have been successful in convening the groups for the lunch portion of the meet at a park where attendees have brought their own lunches. Other hosts are still planning/preferring to revert back to the pre-pandemic arrangement where folks gather at a restaurant. Regardless of how the hosts choose to organize their meets, let's hope the pandemic is behind us sooner rather than later.
I'm looking at holing a SE Chicago/NW Indiana meet in June-ish, covering the Illinois-Indiana state line and thing like South Lake Shore Drive and the new Cline Avenue Bridge.
March 19 is the official date for the Natchez meet.
Dan Garnell & Sean Lyons get another chance at hosting a Toledo roadmeet (Covid has thwarted their plans last year & this year). Date at their discretion.
I'll be hosting a Janesville/Beloit meet in October 2022.
Thanks to everyone who has chimed in so far! The 2022 list is looking pretty nice at this point. :)
It's looking like April 23 is the "done deal" date for my meet
Quote from: jpi on August 12, 2021, 10:14:21 AM
It's looking like April 23 is the "done deal" date for my meet
Sounds good... I'm updating the 2022 list to specify this date. This means that I will choose April 30 as the date for my Outer Banks meet.
Due to Delta and personal reasons I'm postponing the Cumberland/Western MD meet to 2022. Looking at summer again.
Quote from: Laura on September 08, 2021, 09:00:34 AM
Due to Delta and personal reasons I'm postponing the Cumberland/Western MD meet to 2022. Looking at summer again.
Thanks for the update, Laura. I crossed off this meet from the 2021 list and added it to the 2022 list. I'm personally still interested. :)
I'm looking at a meet for Cedar Rapids/Iowa City, IA for 2022. I'm either targeting Either May or November but not quite solid yet.
There are some challenges for any proposed date ranges in Fall goes up against potential Univ of Iowa events (football in the fall) effectively jeopardizes the scheduling of the meet in the fall entirely, I do see that October has a meet and to have 2 meets (even close-ish to each other distance-wise) will hurt attendance at both meets due to competition. There is a potential that it will happen in May (only one U of I event blocks May 14 - commencement compared to the November option which gives me 11/5 and 11/12 only).
More to follow.
Quote from: SSOWorld on September 12, 2021, 06:07:14 PM
I'm looking at a meet for Cedar Rapids/Iowa City, IA for 2022. I'm either targeting Either May or November but not quite solid yet.
Awesome! I'm very interested. I've added this to the list of tentative meets for 2022.
Quote from: SSOWorld on September 12, 2021, 06:07:14 PM
I'm looking at a meet for Cedar Rapids/Iowa City, IA for 2022. I'm either targeting Either May or November but not quite solid yet.
There are some challenges for any proposed date ranges in Fall goes up against potential Univ of Iowa events (football in the fall) effectively jeopardizes the scheduling of the meet in the fall entirely, I do see that October has a meet and to have 2 meets (even close-ish to each other distance-wise) will hurt attendance at both meets due to competition. There is a potential that it will happen in May (only one U of I event blocks May 14 - commencement compared to the November option which gives me 11/5 and 11/12 only).
More to follow.
You may or may not be aware, but Iowa's football dates and opponents for next year are already set. https://fbschedules.com/ncaa-2022/team/iowa
On the road the first two weekends of November, at home the latter two. The Nebraska game is Black Friday if you were interested to keep that Saturday to be an option as well.
Also, Gene's San Antonio meet is moving to October 1, 2022 from this year's date.
Quote from: Brandon on September 13, 2021, 10:24:47 PM
Also, Gene's San Antonio meet is moving to October 1, 2022 from this year's date.
I noticed that on Facebook. I have crossed off San Antonio from the list of 2021 meets and added it to the list of 2022 meets which continues to grow!
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on September 13, 2021, 04:34:34 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on September 12, 2021, 06:07:14 PM
I'm looking at a meet for Cedar Rapids/Iowa City, IA for 2022. I'm either targeting Either May or November but not quite solid yet.
There are some challenges for any proposed date ranges in Fall goes up against potential Univ of Iowa events (football in the fall) effectively jeopardizes the scheduling of the meet in the fall entirely, I do see that October has a meet and to have 2 meets (even close-ish to each other distance-wise) will hurt attendance at both meets due to competition. There is a potential that it will happen in May (only one U of I event blocks May 14 - commencement compared to the November option which gives me 11/5 and 11/12 only).
More to follow.
You may or may not be aware, but Iowa's football dates and opponents for next year are already set. https://fbschedules.com/ncaa-2022/team/iowa (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa-2022/team/iowa)
On the road the first two weekends of November, at home the latter two. The Nebraska game is Black Friday if you were interested to keep that Saturday to be an option as well.
now see, I'd love to go see a game at Iowa on a meet weekend.
Quote from: Alps on September 13, 2021, 11:50:01 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on September 13, 2021, 04:34:34 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on September 12, 2021, 06:07:14 PM
I'm looking at a meet for Cedar Rapids/Iowa City, IA for 2022. I'm either targeting Either May or November but not quite solid yet.
There are some challenges for any proposed date ranges in Fall goes up against potential Univ of Iowa events (football in the fall) effectively jeopardizes the scheduling of the meet in the fall entirely, I do see that October has a meet and to have 2 meets (even close-ish to each other distance-wise) will hurt attendance at both meets due to competition. There is a potential that it will happen in May (only one U of I event blocks May 14 - commencement compared to the November option which gives me 11/5 and 11/12 only).
More to follow.
You may or may not be aware, but Iowa's football dates and opponents for next year are already set. https://fbschedules.com/ncaa-2022/team/iowa (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa-2022/team/iowa)
On the road the first two weekends of November, at home the latter two. The Nebraska game is Black Friday if you were interested to keep that Saturday to be an option as well.
now see, I'd love to go see a game at Iowa on a meet weekend.
Good luck finding standing room.
Quote from: SSOWorld on September 12, 2021, 06:07:14 PM
I'm looking at a meet for Cedar Rapids/Iowa City, IA for 2022. I'm either targeting Either May or November but not quite solid yet.
There are some challenges for any proposed date ranges in Fall goes up against potential Univ of Iowa events (football in the fall) effectively jeopardizes the scheduling of the meet in the fall entirely, I do see that October has a meet and to have 2 meets (even close-ish to each other distance-wise) will hurt attendance at both meets due to competition. There is a potential that it will happen in May (only one U of I event blocks May 14 - commencement compared to the November option which gives me 11/5 and 11/12 only).
More to follow.
The meet will be taking place in May (just not on May 14).
Quote from: SSOWorld on September 18, 2021, 09:15:15 AM
Quote from: SSOWorld on September 12, 2021, 06:07:14 PM
I'm looking at a meet for Cedar Rapids/Iowa City, IA for 2022. I'm either targeting Either May or November but not quite solid yet.
There are some challenges for any proposed date ranges in Fall goes up against potential Univ of Iowa events (football in the fall) effectively jeopardizes the scheduling of the meet in the fall entirely, I do see that October has a meet and to have 2 meets (even close-ish to each other distance-wise) will hurt attendance at both meets due to competition. There is a potential that it will happen in May (only one U of I event blocks May 14 - commencement compared to the November option which gives me 11/5 and 11/12 only).
More to follow.
The meet will be taking place in May (just not on May 14).
I've updated the list accordingly.
Quote from: Brandon on August 06, 2021, 07:45:17 PM
I'm looking at holing a SE Chicago/NW Indiana meet in June-ish, covering the Illinois-Indiana state line and thing like South Lake Shore Drive and the new Cline Avenue Bridge.
I'd be interested. Don't know if the US 12/20 East split project would also be of interest
Personally, I would like to do the East End Connector Meet in March (March 12 or March 26), but we will have to see if the road actually opens.
I am considering an Oklahoma City meet for probably summer, but it will depend on my medical condition and time constraints.
Quote from: JMoses24 on October 08, 2021, 11:08:25 AM
I am considering an Oklahoma City meet for probably summer, but it will depend on my medical condition and time constraints.
That would be awesome–the last OKC meet was in 2010, and some of the people who attended that one who would be surprised to see how much it's changed since then. (We were still on the old Crosstown then, I-35 in Norman was in the process of getting expanded to 6 lanes, and there was of course no John Kilpatrick extension, Kickapoo Turnpike, or Scissortail Park.)
Let me know if you need some help planning things or potentially serving as backup host if needed.
Quote from: cabiness42 on September 19, 2021, 09:11:30 PM
Quote from: Brandon on August 06, 2021, 07:45:17 PM
I'm looking at holing a SE Chicago/NW Indiana meet in June-ish, covering the Illinois-Indiana state line and thing like South Lake Shore Drive and the new Cline Avenue Bridge.
I'd be interested. Don't know if the US 12/20 East split project would also be of interest
We might be able to fit it in. :cool:
Quote from: JMoses24 on October 08, 2021, 11:08:25 AM
I am considering an Oklahoma City meet for probably summer, but it will depend on my medical condition and time constraints.
I've added it to the list of potential meets for 2022.
I'm thinking about doing a Shawangunk Road Meet some time next year. Highlights would include US 44/NY 55 and NY 52 across the Shawangunk Ridge, as well as some of the stuff up near Kingston like I-587, the US 209/NY 199 expressway, and the Wurts Street Bridge. Not committed at this point, just an idea that I'm throwing around.
Mods: Can we make this a sticky like the 2021 Meet thread?
Quote from: Brandon on October 17, 2021, 01:17:10 AM
Mods: Can we make this a sticky like the 2021 Meet thread?
It's not 2022 yet. :|
I'm still focused on 2021 myself. :-|
Also, I'm not sure why this list has to be diluted with a bunch of meets that are maybe, kinda, or sorta happening without any commitments from the people who are throwing their ideas out there. If you want to host a meet, host it, pick a date, and announce it. I don't need to know that you're "thinking about" hosting an event. Just tell us when & where the event is and I'd happy to consider attending. (Don't give me question marks, give me periods.) The way this is set up currently, it's difficult for folks like me to weed through everything and determine exactly what's happening, what isn't, and what's prone to postponement, and I feel like we can do a better job all around of constructing this list and communicating intent. Perhaps a second list of hypothetical ideas would help separate things better and be easier for folks to digest, b/c right now (in October 2021) this list is already giving me a headache.
As long as the OP reflects the state of things, I don't mind. I just ignore the ones without specific dates.
Not sure if that April 2nd for Irondequoit is as firm as it seems, though. It was thrown out as a possibility, but didn't see to be firm in its thread.
ETA: And, if a host last-minute cancels because they really couldn't be the host (as has happened before), that's pretty rude. Emergencies are of course understandable, but given how far some people travel for these things, reality needs to hit somewhat early on.
Quote from: roadwaywiz95 on October 18, 2021, 12:57:30 PM
I'm still focused on 2021 myself. :-|
Also, I'm not sure why this list has to be diluted with a bunch of meets that are maybe, kinda, or sorta happening without any commitments from the people who are throwing their ideas out there. If you want to host a meet, host it, pick a date, and announce it. I don't need to know that you're "thinking about" hosting an event. Just tell us when & where the event is and I'd happy to consider attending. (Don't give me question marks, give me periods.) The way this is set up currently, it's difficult for folks like me to weed through everything and determine exactly what's happening, what isn't, and what's prone to postponement, and I feel like we can do a better job all around of constructing this list and communicating intent. Perhaps a second list of hypothetical ideas would help separate things better and be easier for folks to digest, b/c right now (in October 2021) this list is already giving me a headache.
Lots of people like to gauge interest, and then throw out a range of dates, to try to maximize potential attendance. And often, someone will start out with a great deal of interest in hosting a meet, then will lose interest for whatever reason (example: me, thinking about hosting a Portsmouth, Ohio meet and even going as far as to scout out possible stops, before deciding I didn't want to fool with it.
Quote from: Rothman on October 18, 2021, 01:04:17 PM
As long as the OP reflects the state of things, I don't mind. I just ignore the ones without specific dates.
Not sure if that April 2nd for Irondequoit is as firm as it seems, though. It was thrown out as a possibility, but didn't see to be firm in its thread.
ETA: And, if a host last-minute cancels because they really couldn't be the host (as has happened before), that's pretty rude. Emergencies are of course understandable, but given how far some people travel for these things, reality needs to hit somewhat early on.
Irondequoit started out as a joke, anyway (and much of the itinerary was also on the tour for the Rochester meet in, I think 2010) so who knows if the person who proposed it had any intentions of following through?
I still feel bad about having to call off the New River Gorge/Beckley/Coalfields Expressway meet five years ago, but I would not have been physically able to attend, and I didn't know I would have problems when I scheduled the meet. Of course, I'd made notes available and I know a few people came anyway. I attended a meet years ago where the host was unable to make it and a substitute host stepped in at the last minute.
Quote from: roadwaywiz95 on October 18, 2021, 12:57:30 PM
Also, I'm not sure why this list has to be diluted with a bunch of meets that are maybe, kinda, or sorta happening without any commitments from the people who are throwing their ideas out there. If you want to host a meet, host it, pick a date, and announce it. I don't need to know that you're "thinking about" hosting an event. Just tell us when & where the event is and I'd happy to consider attending. (Don't give me question marks, give me periods.) The way this is set up currently, it's difficult for folks like me to weed through everything and determine exactly what's happening, what isn't, and what's prone to postponement, and I feel like we can do a better job all around of constructing this list and communicating intent. Perhaps a second list of hypothetical ideas would help separate things better and be easier for folks to digest, b/c right now (in October 2021) this list is already giving me a headache.
Relax, man. When I started this thread a couple months ago, I made it clear that it's a list of the meets that are simply being "considered" for 2022. I've started a thread like this every year for the past few years now and no one has complained about them until now. It's just a list of tentative meets, and that's all it was ever intended to be. If some meets on this list don't happen, who cares?
If this list is giving you a headache, no one is forcing you to read it. I don't see what the harm is in compiling a list of meet ideas that folks have talked about possibly hosting.
Quote from: hbelkins on October 18, 2021, 07:23:52 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 18, 2021, 01:04:17 PM
As long as the OP reflects the state of things, I don't mind. I just ignore the ones without specific dates.
Not sure if that April 2nd for Irondequoit is as firm as it seems, though. It was thrown out as a possibility, but didn't see to be firm in its thread.
ETA: And, if a host last-minute cancels because they really couldn't be the host (as has happened before), that's pretty rude. Emergencies are of course understandable, but given how far some people travel for these things, reality needs to hit somewhat early on.
Irondequoit started out as a joke, anyway (and much of the itinerary was also on the tour for the Rochester meet in, I think 2010) so who knows if the person who proposed it had any intentions of following through?
I still feel bad about having to call off the New River Gorge/Beckley/Coalfields Expressway meet five years ago, but I would not have been physically able to attend, and I didn't know I would have problems when I scheduled the meet. Of course, I'd made notes available and I know a few people came anyway. I attended a meet years ago where the host was unable to make it and a substitute host stepped in at the last minute.
I was thinking of one particular instance a while ago where someone did say they were hosting a meet, went through planning and everything, only to reveal that it was a facade the night before and someone else was making a multi-day trip to be there. That was nuts.
Quote from: Rothman on October 18, 2021, 10:52:39 PM
I was thinking of one particular instance a while ago where someone did say they were hosting a meet, went through planning and everything, only to reveal that it was a facade the night before and someone else was making a multi-day trip to be there. That was nuts.
I think you're referring to a meet that was supposed to happen in Jacksonville FL a couple years ago or so. You're right; that was awful.
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on October 19, 2021, 06:33:47 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 18, 2021, 10:52:39 PM
I was thinking of one particular instance a while ago where someone did say they were hosting a meet, went through planning and everything, only to reveal that it was a facade the night before and someone else was making a multi-day trip to be there. That was nuts.
I think you're referring to a meet that was supposed to happen in Jacksonville FL a couple years ago or so. You're right; that was awful.
That would be pretty bad. I wouldn't be happy about that. I think the person who was going to go (not a member of this forum) went anyway, now that you mention it.
Closest I ever came was when I was en route to a meet in Slidell, La., about 13 years ago. A hurricane was en route to the Gulf coast but wasn't expected to hit until a couple of days after the meet. The host publicly pondered calling it off, but decided to go ahead with it.
QuoteClosest I ever came was when I was en route to a meet in Slidell, La., about 13 years ago. A hurricane was en route to the Gulf coast but wasn't expected to hit until a couple of days after the meet. The host publicly pondered calling it off, but decided to go ahead with it.
That was me, with Hurricane Gustav approaching. I felt we had enough lead time to comfortably hold the meet, and so I did.
Quote from: hbelkins on October 19, 2021, 11:53:47 AM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on October 19, 2021, 06:33:47 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 18, 2021, 10:52:39 PM
I was thinking of one particular instance a while ago where someone did say they were hosting a meet, went through planning and everything, only to reveal that it was a facade the night before and someone else was making a multi-day trip to be there. That was nuts.
I think you're referring to a meet that was supposed to happen in Jacksonville FL a couple years ago or so. You're right; that was awful.
That would be pretty bad. I wouldn't be happy about that. I think the person who was going to go (not a member of this forum) went anyway, now that you mention it.
I know exactly whom you're referring to. I felt bad for him for making that long trip expecting a road meet to be taking place, only to discover that it was not. That's why I would probably never plan on attending a road meet that's talked about being hosted by the person who pulled that crap.
Quote from: Rothman on October 18, 2021, 10:52:39 PMI was thinking of one particular instance a while ago where someone did say they were hosting a meet, went through planning and everything, only to reveal that it was a facade the night before and someone else was making a multi-day trip to be there. That was nuts.
To what end? For the lulz?
Quote from: abefroman329 on October 19, 2021, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 18, 2021, 10:52:39 PMI was thinking of one particular instance a while ago where someone did say they were hosting a meet, went through planning and everything, only to reveal that it was a facade the night before and someone else was making a multi-day trip to be there. That was nuts.
To what end? For the lulz?
Nah. Hard to put it otherwise: I think the "host" was immature, from what I remember. Just seemed to get caught up in the idea and then realized he really couldn't pull it off.
Others may remember it differently.
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on October 19, 2021, 06:33:47 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 18, 2021, 10:52:39 PM
I was thinking of one particular instance a while ago where someone did say they were hosting a meet, went through planning and everything, only to reveal that it was a facade the night before and someone else was making a multi-day trip to be there. That was nuts.
I think you're referring to a meet that was supposed to happen in Jacksonville FL a couple years ago or so. You're right; that was awful.
Was this person banned? And if not, why not?
Quote from: cabiness42 on October 19, 2021, 01:30:31 PM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on October 19, 2021, 06:33:47 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 18, 2021, 10:52:39 PM
I was thinking of one particular instance a while ago where someone did say they were hosting a meet, went through planning and everything, only to reveal that it was a facade the night before and someone else was making a multi-day trip to be there. That was nuts.
I think you're referring to a meet that was supposed to happen in Jacksonville FL a couple years ago or so. You're right; that was awful.
Was this person banned? And if not, why not?
I don't think they were banned, but they did get quite the tongue lashing.
Quote from: Rothman on October 19, 2021, 01:31:38 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on October 19, 2021, 01:30:31 PM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on October 19, 2021, 06:33:47 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 18, 2021, 10:52:39 PM
I was thinking of one particular instance a while ago where someone did say they were hosting a meet, went through planning and everything, only to reveal that it was a facade the night before and someone else was making a multi-day trip to be there. That was nuts.
I think you're referring to a meet that was supposed to happen in Jacksonville FL a couple years ago or so. You're right; that was awful.
Was this person banned? And if not, why not?
I don't think they were banned, but they did get quite the tongue lashing.
Someone on the outside gave a plausible detailed explanation about what may have happened behind the host cancelling that meet: basically the host couldn't hold it on his own, and when his hosting help was unable or unwilling to do so, he had to cancel.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on October 19, 2021, 01:59:20 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 19, 2021, 01:31:38 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on October 19, 2021, 01:30:31 PM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on October 19, 2021, 06:33:47 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 18, 2021, 10:52:39 PM
I was thinking of one particular instance a while ago where someone did say they were hosting a meet, went through planning and everything, only to reveal that it was a facade the night before and someone else was making a multi-day trip to be there. That was nuts.
I think you're referring to a meet that was supposed to happen in Jacksonville FL a couple years ago or so. You're right; that was awful.
Was this person banned? And if not, why not?
I don't think they were banned, but they did get quite the tongue lashing.
Someone on the outside gave a plausible detailed explanation about what may have happened behind the host cancelling that meet: basically the host couldn't hold it on his own, and when his hosting help was unable or unwilling to do so, he had to cancel.
Am I remembering this wrong, or was it a kid that was trying to host it and he was relying upon his parents or something like that?
Quote from: Rothman on October 19, 2021, 02:20:39 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on October 19, 2021, 01:59:20 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 19, 2021, 01:31:38 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on October 19, 2021, 01:30:31 PM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on October 19, 2021, 06:33:47 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 18, 2021, 10:52:39 PM
I was thinking of one particular instance a while ago where someone did say they were hosting a meet, went through planning and everything, only to reveal that it was a facade the night before and someone else was making a multi-day trip to be there. That was nuts.
I think you're referring to a meet that was supposed to happen in Jacksonville FL a couple years ago or so. You're right; that was awful.
Was this person banned? And if not, why not?
I don't think they were banned, but they did get quite the tongue lashing.
Someone on the outside gave a plausible detailed explanation about what may have happened behind the host cancelling that meet: basically the host couldn't hold it on his own, and when his hosting help was unable or unwilling to do so, he had to cancel.
Am I remembering this wrong, or was it a kid that was trying to host it and he was relying upon his parents or something like that?
Yes, but he was/is an adult.
Quote from: Brandon on October 19, 2021, 02:36:54 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 19, 2021, 02:20:39 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on October 19, 2021, 01:59:20 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 19, 2021, 01:31:38 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on October 19, 2021, 01:30:31 PM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on October 19, 2021, 06:33:47 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 18, 2021, 10:52:39 PM
I was thinking of one particular instance a while ago where someone did say they were hosting a meet, went through planning and everything, only to reveal that it was a facade the night before and someone else was making a multi-day trip to be there. That was nuts.
I think you're referring to a meet that was supposed to happen in Jacksonville FL a couple years ago or so. You're right; that was awful.
Was this person banned? And if not, why not?
I don't think they were banned, but they did get quite the tongue lashing.
Someone on the outside gave a plausible detailed explanation about what may have happened behind the host cancelling that meet: basically the host couldn't hold it on his own, and when his hosting help was unable or unwilling to do so, he had to cancel.
Am I remembering this wrong, or was it a kid that was trying to host it and he was relying upon his parents or something like that?
Yes, but he was/is an adult.
Yes, and this person also often expresses a desire to attend a distant meet, and will even post potential airport destinations and layovers, but never ends up going.
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on October 18, 2021, 08:29:37 PM
Quote from: roadwaywiz95 on October 18, 2021, 12:57:30 PM
Also, I'm not sure why this list has to be diluted with a bunch of meets that are maybe, kinda, or sorta happening without any commitments from the people who are throwing their ideas out there. If you want to host a meet, host it, pick a date, and announce it. I don't need to know that you're "thinking about" hosting an event. Just tell us when & where the event is and I'd happy to consider attending. (Don't give me question marks, give me periods.) The way this is set up currently, it's difficult for folks like me to weed through everything and determine exactly what's happening, what isn't, and what's prone to postponement, and I feel like we can do a better job all around of constructing this list and communicating intent. Perhaps a second list of hypothetical ideas would help separate things better and be easier for folks to digest, b/c right now (in October 2021) this list is already giving me a headache.
Relax, man. When I started this thread a couple months ago, I made it clear that it's a list of the meets that are simply being "considered" for 2022. I've started a thread like this every year for the past few years now and no one has complained about them until now. It's just a list of tentative meets, and that's all it was ever intended to be. If some meets on this list don't happen, who cares?
If this list is giving you a headache, no one is forcing you to read it. I don't see what the harm is in compiling a list of meet ideas that folks have talked about possibly hosting.
This list might be intended as a list of meets under consideration, but it functions instead as a list of planned meets in the eyes of those who read it. As I said, it would be better to put the "ideas" and question marks in a separate category so folks can trim the fat and better discern exactly what the meet landscape looks like during the year or at a particular time of year. For planning/travel purposes, it doesn't do potential attendees like me any good to see a list of question marks and maybes on a meet calendar and that's why I suggested putting them on a separate list apart from those that have already "graduated" to confirmed status. It helps everyone involved who might want to take part in these things as the year goes on.
And just b/c "no one has complained about them until now", doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement, and you shouldn't take it personally and tell *me* to "relax" when *I* offer a perspective on this matter that might enable you to make this feature better. I know you're not a big fan of mine (for whatever reason), but you don't need to act as if everyone who is critical of you is out to get you.
P.S. This thread promptly diverted off course into talking about something completely off topic from "2022 Meets" right after my initial comment. Yeah, there's no fat that needs trimming in here. :-D
Quote from: roadwaywiz95 on October 19, 2021, 06:02:11 PM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on October 18, 2021, 08:29:37 PM
Quote from: roadwaywiz95 on October 18, 2021, 12:57:30 PM
Also, I'm not sure why this list has to be diluted with a bunch of meets that are maybe, kinda, or sorta happening without any commitments from the people who are throwing their ideas out there. If you want to host a meet, host it, pick a date, and announce it. I don't need to know that you're "thinking about" hosting an event. Just tell us when & where the event is and I'd happy to consider attending. (Don't give me question marks, give me periods.) The way this is set up currently, it's difficult for folks like me to weed through everything and determine exactly what's happening, what isn't, and what's prone to postponement, and I feel like we can do a better job all around of constructing this list and communicating intent. Perhaps a second list of hypothetical ideas would help separate things better and be easier for folks to digest, b/c right now (in October 2021) this list is already giving me a headache.
Relax, man. When I started this thread a couple months ago, I made it clear that it's a list of the meets that are simply being "considered" for 2022. I've started a thread like this every year for the past few years now and no one has complained about them until now. It's just a list of tentative meets, and that's all it was ever intended to be. If some meets on this list don't happen, who cares?
If this list is giving you a headache, no one is forcing you to read it. I don't see what the harm is in compiling a list of meet ideas that folks have talked about possibly hosting.
This list might be intended as a list of meets under consideration, but it functions instead as a list of planned meets in the eyes of those who read it. As I said, it would be better to put the "ideas" and question marks in a separate category so folks can trim the fat and better discern exactly what the meet landscape looks like during the year or at a particular time of year. For planning/travel purposes, it doesn't do potential attendees like me any good to see a list of question marks and maybes on a meet calendar and that's why I suggested putting them on a separate list apart from those that have already "graduated" to confirmed status. It helps everyone involved who might want to take part in these things as the year goes on.
And just b/c "no one has complained about them until now", doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement, and you shouldn't take it personally and tell *me* to "relax" when *I* offer a perspective on this matter that might enable you to make this feature better. I know you're not a big fan of mine (for whatever reason), but you don't need to act as if everyone who is critical of you is out to get you.
P.S. This thread promptly diverted off course into talking about something completely off topic from "2022 Meets" right after my initial comment. Yeah, there's no fat that needs trimming in here. :-D
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on October 18, 2021, 08:29:37 PMRelax, man.
Quote from: roadwaywiz95 on October 19, 2021, 06:02:11 PM
This list might be intended as a list of meets under consideration, but it functions instead as a list of planned meets in the eyes of those who read it. As I said, it would be better to put the "ideas" and question marks in a separate category so folks can trim the fat and better discern exactly what the meet landscape looks like during the year or at a particular time of year. For planning/travel purposes, it doesn't do potential attendees like me any good to see a list of question marks and maybes on a meet calendar and that's why I suggested putting them on a separate list apart from those that have already "graduated" to confirmed status. It helps everyone involved who might want to take part in these things as the year goes on.
If you don't like the way this list was started, you are welcome to start something different, for, say, 2023 meets. No one would stop you from doing so. I only took this on because I wanted to and because I thought it would be good to get a list started. I'm not going to refuse to add a tentative meet to the list just because the potential host isn't 100 percent certain on whether or not he or she will actually be able to move forward with it this early in the game. I'm also not in a position at this point to start a separate thread for only the tentative meets of 2022. The problem with what you're suggesting is that you're trying to force potential meet hosts to decide, prematurely, whether their meet idea belongs in a category of "definitely happening" or "possibly happening". To me, that's a bit ridiculous and I don't think potential meet hosts would want to be forced to have their meet ideas go in one category or the other. Plus, then, there's the extra task of moving meets between the two lists when the hosts announce that their tentative meets will become definitive (or vice versa if they express hesitation in hosting after previously announcing a date). If you don't like the question marks on this list, my suggestion would be to simply ignore them and focus instead on the meets that have specific dates already attached to them. I imagine some of the question marks will be removed as it gets closer to the time when those meets happen (if, in fact, they do happen).
Quote from: roadwaywiz95 on October 19, 2021, 06:02:11 PM
And just b/c "no one has complained about them until now", doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement, and you shouldn't take it personally and tell *me* to "relax" when *I* offer a perspective on this matter that might enable you to make this feature better. I know you're not a big fan of mine (for whatever reason), but you don't need to act as if everyone who is critical of you is out to get you.
At no point did I ever say that I'm not open to improvement. I certainly am. It's just that I didn't ask for your feedback, and you are only one person of many who reads the threads on this forum. I'm not acting like you're out to get me, and I'm not sure how you're getting that perception. If someone criticizes my idea, I will consider the source of the criticism and whether I'm open to the suggestions (and whether the suggestions make sense to me). If you're going to criticize someone's ideas, you should be prepared for whatever response you might get from that person. Just because you criticize a person's idea (especially when the criticism wasn't asked for) doesn't mean you should expect them to blindly make whatever changes you want them to make. That's rather arrogant, if you ask me, and it gives others the perception that it must be done your way. It also gives the perception that your ideas are the only ones that matter which is not true at all.
This has nothing to do with me being a fan of you or not. I'm not sure why that's relevant. You provided a suggestion for what you believe is an improvement. I'm not required to agree with your suggestion... especially when I don't see it as an improvement. We just see it differently. I like to plan in advance for travel just as much as you do. But you can't force potential meet hosts into prematurely deciding whether their meets are definitive or tentative just because the current list format doesn't fit into your desire to plan for your personal travels. No one is stopping you from planning travel. But when it comes to road meets that you're interested in attending, you just have to do what the rest of us do and wait until road-meet plans are firmed up by the hosts. If you're trying to plan all of your 2022 travels now and you're only basing that on which road meets are definitive (and you don't have the flexibility to change your travel plans later, as hosts firm up their meet plans), my guess is that you probably wouldn't be attending many road meets in 2022.
At this point, I guess the moderators can chime in and share their thoughts on whether the list of potential meets for 2022 is okay the way it is or if they'd prefer your suggestion. It just seems like you're trying to pigeonhole road-meet hosts into categories, which is something I personally disagree with. I'm not sure what the moderators would think of that.
the moderators would vastly prefer people stop arguing about what's included and just have the list maintained by the person who posted it
Quote from: Alps on October 19, 2021, 11:15:34 PM
the moderators would vastly prefer people stop arguing about what's included and just have the list maintained by the person who posted it
Thanks for chiming in, Steve. I will continue to maintain this list the same way I've been maintaining it all along.
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on October 19, 2021, 11:31:21 PM
Thanks for chiming in, Steve. I will continue to maintain this list the same way I've been maintaining it all along.
Generally speaking, no one is responsible for what another one infers. And you're certainly not implying that these meets are definitely happening; only that they're potential events. So any inferences are beyond your control. If someone wants to start a thread on "confirmed 2022 meets" then they're free to do so, and not read or participate in this thread where they aren't inferring anything that wasn't implied in the original post.
Beyond that, which is applicable in a lot more places than just this thread, people generally tend to post about individual meets in their own threads with polls on possible dates, lists of potential attractions, restaurant choices, etc. Those pretty quickly resolve into final determinations on when, or if, they will take place. If AJ wants to produce a compilation, and others want to post in the thread, more power to him.
Quote from: hbelkins on October 20, 2021, 01:23:31 PM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on October 19, 2021, 11:31:21 PM
Thanks for chiming in, Steve. I will continue to maintain this list the same way I've been maintaining it all along.
Generally speaking, no one is responsible for what another one infers. And you're certainly not implying that these meets are definitely happening; only that they're potential events. So any inferences are beyond your control. If someone wants to start a thread on "confirmed 2022 meets" then they're free to do so, and not read or participate in this thread where they aren't inferring anything that wasn't implied in the original post.
Beyond that, which is applicable in a lot more places than just this thread, people generally tend to post about individual meets in their own threads with polls on possible dates, lists of potential attractions, restaurant choices, etc. Those pretty quickly resolve into final determinations on when, or if, they will take place. If AJ wants to produce a compilation, and others want to post in the thread, more power to him.
Thank you, H.B. The thing is, if Dan wants a separate thread/list right now for just the meets that are confirmed for 2022, that would be a pretty small list because most hosts don't definitively announce their meets so far in advance. Out of all the meets that are on the 2022 list at this point (not including my Outer Banks meet), I think only two of them are confirmed so far with an exact date in mind. On most occasions (I think), meets are not confirmed until some point within, say, 3-6 months in advance. It just doesn't make sense to me to have separate lists for the different confirmation levels of meets. But like you say, anyone can start whatever list they want. I of course don't want to suggest that I have a monopoly on creating these lists. I just started doing it, and the forum ran with it. Next year, if someone wants to do it differently, I guess they'll have to beat me to it and that wouldn't bother me in the least.
As far as my Outer Banks meet is concerned, the pandemic taught me a lesson in not making official announcements so far in advance. It's listed with a definitive date of April 30, but I do not plan to re-start my official thread/post for the meet until maybe January or so.
My feeling is that this thread is where people throw ideas out to gauge interest. If there's interest in an idea and the poster wants to go forward with planning and organization, then they start a separate thread for that meet, and that's when you can start to think of the meet as likely to actually happen.
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 31, 2021, 09:54:42 AM
My feeling is that this thread is where people throw ideas out to gauge interest.
That's pretty much it. I decided to change the name of the thread from "2022 meets" to "2022 meet ideas" to reflect this reality.
Anyone interested in a South Africa meet in February?
Quote from: yanksfan6129 on November 02, 2021, 03:42:14 PM
Anyone interested in a South Africa meet in February?
I came across ZAian road enthusiasts once, forget the forum. Definitely go find them.
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 10, 2021, 03:00:54 PM
Quote from: JMoses24 on October 08, 2021, 11:08:25 AM
I am considering an Oklahoma City meet for probably summer, but it will depend on my medical condition and time constraints.
That would be awesome–the last OKC meet was in 2010, and some of the people who attended that one who would be surprised to see how much it's changed since then. (We were still on the old Crosstown then, I-35 in Norman was in the process of getting expanded to 6 lanes, and there was of course no John Kilpatrick extension, Kickapoo Turnpike, or Scissortail Park.)
Let me know if you need some help planning things or potentially serving as backup host if needed.
Scott, I'll message you directly on this soon. I probably could use the help. Prelim target timeframe to run this as I've thought about doing it is late July into early half of August to avoid conflicts with the other meets listed here.
Quote from: JMoses24 on November 02, 2021, 10:42:48 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 10, 2021, 03:00:54 PM
Quote from: JMoses24 on October 08, 2021, 11:08:25 AM
I am considering an Oklahoma City meet for probably summer, but it will depend on my medical condition and time constraints.
That would be awesome–the last OKC meet was in 2010, and some of the people who attended that one who would be surprised to see how much it's changed since then. (We were still on the old Crosstown then, I-35 in Norman was in the process of getting expanded to 6 lanes, and there was of course no John Kilpatrick extension, Kickapoo Turnpike, or Scissortail Park.)
Let me know if you need some help planning things or potentially serving as backup host if needed.
Scott, I'll message you directly on this soon. I probably could use the help. Prelim target timeframe to run this as I've thought about doing it is late July into early half of August to avoid conflicts with the other meets listed here.
All right, I look forward to hearing from you!
One unfortunate thing about that time period is you're basically guaranteed to have hot weather then, potentially hotter than out-of-staters are comfortable with. I did my OKC meet in mid-June, and it was still pretty hot then. Any earlier than that, though, and you risk running into tornado season (although a minority might well find the risk of running into some of our famed severe weather a plus; I think at least one meet held elsewhere has turned into a storm chase after the main tour was done).
Of course, on the flip side, if you go for fall, the weather will be more likely to be suitable, but you'll have to be sure to have it during a week OU is away if you want to see anything in Cleveland County, and the later you go, the more that further-away attendees may start to become worried about winter weather at the start and end of their trip.
Would people be opposed to me having the Cumberland/Western MD meet over Memorial Day Weekend 2022? CPZ's Corridor H meet was over the Memorial Day holiday weekend in 2016 so this wouldn't be the first time a meet was held then. It would logistically be easier for us to host on a long weekend.
Sorry for postponing this meet twice now - I do think the third time's the charm.
Unless something weird happens, I'll have a family gathering sometime Memorial Day weekend, so it's not the best weekend for me. Is Juneteenth a long weekend for you? It is for me since it's a state holiday now and falls on a Sunday next year.
Quote from: Laura on November 09, 2021, 09:20:50 AM
Would people be opposed to me having the Cumberland/Western MD meet over Memorial Day Weekend 2022? CPZ's Corridor H meet was over the Memorial Day holiday weekend in 2016 so this wouldn't be the first time a meet was held then. It would logistically be easier for us to host on a long weekend.
Sorry for postponing this meet twice now - I do think the third time's the charm.
I usually do not do anything major that weekend so that is fine with me.
Quote from: vdeane on November 09, 2021, 12:51:18 PM
Unless something weird happens, I'll have a family gathering sometime Memorial Day weekend, so it's not the best weekend for me. Is Juneteenth a long weekend for you? It is for me since it's a state holiday now and falls on a Sunday next year.
That is under consideration now for my continuing-to-be-postponed RDU Meet.
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 09, 2021, 02:27:00 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 09, 2021, 12:51:18 PM
Unless something weird happens, I'll have a family gathering sometime Memorial Day weekend, so it's not the best weekend for me. Is Juneteenth a long weekend for you? It is for me since it's a state holiday now and falls on a Sunday next year.
That is under consideration now for my continuing-to-be-postponed RDU Meet.
My local government has not made it a holiday yet. Juneteenth is also my daughter's birthday so that will probably always be a no-go weekend for me and meets. FYI Father's Day in 2022 is also on Juneteenth so that might not be a good weekend for folks.
I'm also looking at the weekend before Memorial Day weekend as a possibility.
Quote from: Laura on November 09, 2021, 03:29:47 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 09, 2021, 02:27:00 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 09, 2021, 12:51:18 PM
Unless something weird happens, I'll have a family gathering sometime Memorial Day weekend, so it's not the best weekend for me. Is Juneteenth a long weekend for you? It is for me since it's a state holiday now and falls on a Sunday next year.
That is under consideration now for my continuing-to-be-postponed RDU Meet.
My local government has not made it a holiday yet. Juneteenth is also my daughter's birthday so that will probably always be a no-go weekend for me and meets. FYI Father's Day in 2022 is also on Juneteenth so that might not be a good weekend for folks.
I'm also looking at the weekend before Memorial Day weekend as a possibility.
I'm still very interested in attending the Cumberland meet if I can. For me personally, there's pros and cons to attending a meet on Memorial Day weekend but I'd definitely consider it. Part of me would prefer to see it happen the weekend before (if you were to put it up to a vote, that's probably what I'd vote for), but course it's your decision for how you want to proceed with selecting the date.
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on November 09, 2021, 05:54:22 PM
Quote from: Laura on November 09, 2021, 03:29:47 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 09, 2021, 02:27:00 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 09, 2021, 12:51:18 PM
Unless something weird happens, I'll have a family gathering sometime Memorial Day weekend, so it's not the best weekend for me. Is Juneteenth a long weekend for you? It is for me since it's a state holiday now and falls on a Sunday next year.
That is under consideration now for my continuing-to-be-postponed RDU Meet.
My local government has not made it a holiday yet. Juneteenth is also my daughter's birthday so that will probably always be a no-go weekend for me and meets. FYI Father's Day in 2022 is also on Juneteenth so that might not be a good weekend for folks.
I'm also looking at the weekend before Memorial Day weekend as a possibility.
I'm still very interested in attending the Cumberland meet if I can. For me personally, there's pros and cons to attending a meet on Memorial Day weekend but I'd definitely consider it. Part of me would prefer to see it happen the weekend before (if you were to put it up to a vote, that's probably what I'd vote for), but course it's your decision for how you want to proceed with selecting the date.
Laura, if you're amenable to multiple dates, set up a poll in a new thread. If you really want to have it Memorial Day for the long weekend, then just do it! You could even make it a Sunday meet instead of the usual Saturday.
Quote from: Alps on November 10, 2021, 12:16:10 AM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on November 09, 2021, 05:54:22 PM
Quote from: Laura on November 09, 2021, 03:29:47 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 09, 2021, 02:27:00 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 09, 2021, 12:51:18 PM
Unless something weird happens, I'll have a family gathering sometime Memorial Day weekend, so it's not the best weekend for me. Is Juneteenth a long weekend for you? It is for me since it's a state holiday now and falls on a Sunday next year.
That is under consideration now for my continuing-to-be-postponed RDU Meet.
My local government has not made it a holiday yet. Juneteenth is also my daughter's birthday so that will probably always be a no-go weekend for me and meets. FYI Father's Day in 2022 is also on Juneteenth so that might not be a good weekend for folks.
I'm also looking at the weekend before Memorial Day weekend as a possibility.
I'm still very interested in attending the Cumberland meet if I can. For me personally, there's pros and cons to attending a meet on Memorial Day weekend but I'd definitely consider it. Part of me would prefer to see it happen the weekend before (if you were to put it up to a vote, that's probably what I'd vote for), but course it's your decision for how you want to proceed with selecting the date.
Laura, if you're amenable to multiple dates, set up a poll in a new thread. If you really want to have it Memorial Day for the long weekend, then just do it! You could even make it a Sunday meet instead of the usual Saturday.
Also, keep in mind that Scott just announced yesterday (shortly after I posted my comment above) that he's decided to host his Cedar Rapids/Iowa City IA meet on May 21.
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 08, 2021, 02:25:35 AM
Quote from: JMoses24 on November 02, 2021, 10:42:48 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 10, 2021, 03:00:54 PM
Quote from: JMoses24 on October 08, 2021, 11:08:25 AM
I am considering an Oklahoma City meet for probably summer, but it will depend on my medical condition and time constraints.
That would be awesome–the last OKC meet was in 2010, and some of the people who attended that one who would be surprised to see how much it's changed since then. (We were still on the old Crosstown then, I-35 in Norman was in the process of getting expanded to 6 lanes, and there was of course no John Kilpatrick extension, Kickapoo Turnpike, or Scissortail Park.)
Let me know if you need some help planning things or potentially serving as backup host if needed.
Scott, I'll message you directly on this soon. I probably could use the help. Prelim target timeframe to run this as I've thought about doing it is late July into early half of August to avoid conflicts with the other meets listed here.
All right, I look forward to hearing from you!
One unfortunate thing about that time period is you're basically guaranteed to have hot weather then, potentially hotter than out-of-staters are comfortable with. I did my OKC meet in mid-June, and it was still pretty hot then. Any earlier than that, though, and you risk running into tornado season (although a minority might well find the risk of running into some of our famed severe weather a plus; I think at least one meet held elsewhere has turned into a storm chase after the main tour was done).
Of course, on the flip side, if you go for fall, the weather will be more likely to be suitable, but you'll have to be sure to have it during a week OU is away if you want to see anything in Cleveland County, and the later you go, the more that further-away attendees may start to become worried about winter weather at the start and end of their trip.
The highlighted is exactly why I don't want to do April or May and, after this October, gives me pause about that month as well. Plus I'm likely to end up assisting/participating in a chase in those months, since weather is why I moved to OK in 2017 to begin with. If I did fall, I'd definitely do a week when OU is away or on a bye. I just need to find out what the schedule is for OU football season 2022 – if they finalize it in February as they did this year, that gives me time to look at the relevant dates.
I think we've had instances of tornadoes in all twelve months. This past October was a kind of freak occurrence; I would say it's normally a safe option.
There's a secondary severe weather season here in October and November, so it wouldn't be surprising for that to be the case there too.
Thinking of a 2023 follow-up to the 2-day Philly extravaganza - there is more to see than can be covered in 2 days. TBD but I already have an idea that would eat up a day in the NE Philly/suburbs area.
A minimeet including the US 301 Nice Bridge Construction was something that I thought about yesterday. The construction of the new bridge is coming along, and the northern section already has had beams placed on some piers.
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 29, 2021, 10:00:05 AM
A minimeet including the US 301 Nice Bridge Construction was something that I thought about yesterday.
Should I add it to the list as a possibility for 2022?
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on November 29, 2021, 05:58:42 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 29, 2021, 10:00:05 AM
A minimeet including the US 301 Nice Bridge Construction was something that I thought about yesterday.
Should I add it to the list as a possibility for 2022?
Sure, but I think that I would need some sights to find around Dahlgren on the VA side to make this worthwhile IMO.
I want to say we had a meet somewhere between Dahlgren and Fredericksburg a decade or two ago...
I can definitely say that any East End Connector meet will not be before the summer of 2022.
Quote from: froggie on November 30, 2021, 10:28:49 AM
I want to say we had a meet somewhere between Dahlgren and Fredericksburg a decade or two ago...
That does not preclude one from occurring there again.
Quote from: froggie on November 30, 2021, 10:28:49 AM
I want to say we had a meet somewhere between Dahlgren and Fredericksburg a decade or two ago...
So? A decade or two is a long time.
Quote from: Brandon on November 30, 2021, 02:23:57 PM
Quote from: froggie on November 30, 2021, 10:28:49 AM
I want to say we had a meet somewhere between Dahlgren and Fredericksburg a decade or two ago...
That does not preclude one from occurring there again.
Never said there couldn't be one again. I brought it up because, if a record of it can be found, perhaps a potential host could tap into that to find places of interest.
Quote from: froggie on December 01, 2021, 09:58:50 AM
Quote from: Brandon on November 30, 2021, 02:23:57 PM
Quote from: froggie on November 30, 2021, 10:28:49 AM
I want to say we had a meet somewhere between Dahlgren and Fredericksburg a decade or two ago...
That does not preclude one from occurring there again.
Never said there couldn't be one again. I brought it up because, if a record of it can be found, perhaps a potential host could tap into that to find places of interest.
I did two meets in Pikeville, Ky., only eight years apart. Used the same restaurant for both (which, sadly, is no longer open). Focused on two completely different corridors.
Having said that, I have no memory of a US 301 Northern Neck-area meet.
Wonder if the Wayback Machine has any record of the old Pete Jenior/Gribblenation meet page that once existed? It had mostly group photos, but seems like some of the entries had some itineraries or highlights included.
In regard to southern MD, we could take a half hour detour to Cobbs Island to see the new MD 254 Bridge at Neale Sound.
Fredericksburg also has I-95 construction finishing off and the new VA 3 Business Rappahannock River Bridge. That combined is probably more than enough right there.
So in Amsterdam, there's going to be some construction next year on NY 5 to make the current WB road two-way and allow for the removal of the current EB road. Would people be interested in a Schenectady-Amsterdam meet? I was toying with the idea of hosting something in the summer depending on calendar availability. Tentative ideas include lunch at Jumping Jacks in Scotia, swing by a couple things in Schenectady that I had considered for the Capital District meet in 2016, a stop at Rotterdam Kiwanis Park for an old arch bridge on the Mohawk-Hudson Hike-Bike Trail, lock 9 at the NY 103 bridge (including a clinch of NY 103), the NY 5 construction, the Mohawk Gateway Overlook ped bridge in Amsterdam, drive down the NY 30 "freeway", and stop at Karen's Produce & Ice Cream for ice cream and to walk down to the truss bridges carrying NY 5S and the Erie Canal Trail over Schoharie Creek (one of which is an old rail bridge and both of which have history from the Thruway bridge washout).
https://www.recordernews.com/news/local-news/194249
Quote from: vdeane on December 22, 2021, 12:37:24 PM
Would people be interested in a Schenectady-Amsterdam meet?
I would be very interested, but with all the other tentative meets already lined up for 2022 that I'm interested in attending, it's not realistic that I'd be able to attend this meet if it happens. I'm only one person though. :)
Quote from: vdeane on December 22, 2021, 12:37:24 PM
So in Amsterdam, there's going to be some construction next year on NY 5 to make the current WB road two-way and allow for the removal of the current EB road. Would people be interested in a Schenectady-Amsterdam meet? I was toying with the idea of hosting something in the summer depending on calendar availability. Tentative ideas include lunch at Jumping Jacks in Scotia, swing by a couple things in Schenectady that I had considered for the Capital District meet in 2016, a stop at Rotterdam Kiwanis Park for an old arch bridge on the Mohawk-Hudson Hike-Bike Trail, lock 9 at the NY 103 bridge (including a clinch of NY 103), the NY 5 construction, the Mohawk Gateway Overlook ped bridge in Amsterdam, drive down the NY 30 "freeway", and stop at Karen's Produce & Ice Cream for ice cream and to walk down to the truss bridges carrying NY 5S and the Erie Canal Trail over Schoharie Creek (one of which is an old rail bridge and both of which have history from the Thruway bridge washout).
https://www.recordernews.com/news/local-news/194249
If you're going to check out the truss bridges carrying NY 5S and the Erie Canalway Trail, I'll also suggest a stop at the Schoharie Aqueduct, since it's literally around the corner. Plus you have the peculiar old NY State Highway cast iron signs across the river in Tribes Hill. https://goo.gl/maps/cWwv6rZVWofNDrDp9
Quote from: vdeane on December 22, 2021, 12:37:24 PM
So in Amsterdam, there's going to be some construction next year on NY 5 to make the current WB road two-way and allow for the removal of the current EB road. Would people be interested in a Schenectady-Amsterdam meet? I was toying with the idea of hosting something in the summer depending on calendar availability. Tentative ideas include lunch at Jumping Jacks in Scotia, swing by a couple things in Schenectady that I had considered for the Capital District meet in 2016, a stop at Rotterdam Kiwanis Park for an old arch bridge on the Mohawk-Hudson Hike-Bike Trail, lock 9 at the NY 103 bridge (including a clinch of NY 103), the NY 5 construction, the Mohawk Gateway Overlook ped bridge in Amsterdam, drive down the NY 30 "freeway", and stop at Karen's Produce & Ice Cream for ice cream and to walk down to the truss bridges carrying NY 5S and the Erie Canal Trail over Schoharie Creek (one of which is an old rail bridge and both of which have history from the Thruway bridge washout).
https://www.recordernews.com/news/local-news/194249
Careful with Jumping Jack's. I heard they've hit hard times since COVID. Make sure they'll be open.
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on December 22, 2021, 06:09:53 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 22, 2021, 12:37:24 PM
Would people be interested in a Schenectady-Amsterdam meet?
I would be very interested, but with all the other tentative meets already lined up for 2022 that I'm interested in attending, it's not realistic that I'd be able to attend this meet if it happens. I'm only one person though. :)
It's less than an hour away for me so I'll second the interest, even if it's a mini meet.
I am planning my Hawaii trip for April (first two weeks). Therefore, long distance road meets scheduled for March, April and May will be out of the question for me as follows.
Natchez MS - March 19 - Not attending
Durham (NC) East End Connector - March? - Not attending
West Irondequoit NY - April 2? Not attending
Central Pennsylvania (York/Lancaster/Harrisburg) - April 23 - Not attending
Outer Banks NC "city meet" (choose your own sightseeing) - April 30 - Not attending
Plattsburgh/Clinton County NY - spring? - Not attending
Cedar Rapids/Iowa City IA - May 21 - attending and organizing
Cumberland MD - May 21 or 28? -Not attending
Cedar Rapids is a must attend for me as I'm organizing. There is a chance I might attend Philly and/or San Antonio, but because of time-off and funding, I cannot guarantee either. My apologies to those hosting, but I have prioritized the Hawaii trip as I have to take it this year due to the credit for the first attempt (in 2020) expires after 2022.
Quote from: SSOWorld on December 27, 2021, 08:27:52 PM
I am planning my Hawaii trip for April (first two weeks). Therefore, long distance road meets scheduled for March, April and May will be out of the question for me as follows.
Natchez MS - March 19 - Not attending
Durham (NC) East End Connector - March? - Not attending
West Irondequoit NY - April 2? Not attending
Central Pennsylvania (York/Lancaster/Harrisburg) - April 23 - Not attending
Outer Banks NC "city meet" (choose your own sightseeing) - April 30 - Not attending
Plattsburgh/Clinton County NY - spring? - Not attending
Cedar Rapids/Iowa City IA - May 21 - attending and organizing
Cumberland MD - May 21 or 28? -Not attending
Cedar Rapids is a must attend for me as I'm organizing. There is a chance I might attend Philly and/or San Antonio, but because of time-off and funding, I cannot guarantee either. My apologies to those hosting, but I have prioritized the Hawaii trip as I have to take it this year due to the credit for the first attempt (in 2020) expires after 2022.
Understood and appreciate your honesty and transparency. Still 😡
Yeah, the East End Connector meet is not happening in March, but we all already knew that.
Quote from: 74/171FAN on December 28, 2021, 06:34:54 AM
Yeah, the East End Connector meet is not happening in March, but we all already knew that.
I was thinking about that. Do you have a more realistic idea of when you might host that? I saw something in your separate thread about that meet that indicated it might be June or July at the earliest. Would it make sense if I were to simply say "summer or fall"?
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on December 28, 2021, 07:11:20 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on December 28, 2021, 06:34:54 AM
Yeah, the East End Connector meet is not happening in March, but we all already knew that.
I was thinking about that. Do you have a more realistic idea of when you might host that? I saw something in your separate thread about that meet that indicated it might be June or July at the earliest. Would it make sense if I were to simply say "summer or fall"?
Yeah, that would be best for now.
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on December 28, 2021, 07:11:20 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on December 28, 2021, 06:34:54 AM
Yeah, the East End Connector meet is not happening in March, but we all already knew that.
I was thinking about that. Do you have a more realistic idea of when you might host that? I saw something in your separate thread about that meet that indicated it might be June or July at the earliest. Would it make sense if I were to simply say "summer or fall"?
Nothing about this project makes sense when it comes to naming a date.
Quote from: yanksfan6129 on November 02, 2021, 03:42:14 PM
Anyone interested in a South Africa meet in February?
If you'd said October I'd actually try and work that out.
Set the date for now to have Cumberland/Western MD as Memorial Day Weekend. I'd like to do it as a 2 day meet but if I can't that's okay. I have so many ideas - I just need to nail them down, make an itinerary, create a meet thread. I am willing to move it to another date if this weekend doesn't work for most people.
I'm also looking at hosting a Lynchburg, VA meet this year. Going to do some scouting President's Day Weekend. The city is removing College Lake Dam, rerouting US 221 onto a new bridge, and redoing the intersection with the university (my alma mater!) as a 5 point roundabout. This is super exciting to me for so many reasons! There's a lot of other cool stuff to see there, too.
Edit to add: I love your idea of a Southern MD meet, Mark!
I like the Lynchburg meet idea better Laura. I have needed to get down there to finish the business routes and reexplore Bedford as well. It just never really works out as I do not go that way very often anymore.
Waterbury/Meriden, CT meet - April 2
It's on .
Quote from: vdeane on December 22, 2021, 12:37:24 PM
So in Amsterdam, there's going to be some construction next year on NY 5 to make the current WB road two-way and allow for the removal of the current EB road. Would people be interested in a Schenectady-Amsterdam meet? I was toying with the idea of hosting something in the summer depending on calendar availability. Tentative ideas include lunch at Jumping Jacks in Scotia, swing by a couple things in Schenectady that I had considered for the Capital District meet in 2016, a stop at Rotterdam Kiwanis Park for an old arch bridge on the Mohawk-Hudson Hike-Bike Trail, lock 9 at the NY 103 bridge (including a clinch of NY 103), the NY 5 construction, the Mohawk Gateway Overlook ped bridge in Amsterdam, drive down the NY 30 "freeway", and stop at Karen's Produce & Ice Cream for ice cream and to walk down to the truss bridges carrying NY 5S and the Erie Canal Trail over Schoharie Creek (one of which is an old rail bridge and both of which have history from the Thruway bridge washout).
https://www.recordernews.com/news/local-news/194249
If you're still considering this, the impending 890 reconstruction project might make it interesting. I'm looking through the contract docs now and some of the detours will make things interesting, especially if we want to stop at the Plotter Kill Aqueduct.
Quote from: cl94 on January 12, 2022, 01:42:37 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 22, 2021, 12:37:24 PM
So in Amsterdam, there's going to be some construction next year on NY 5 to make the current WB road two-way and allow for the removal of the current EB road. Would people be interested in a Schenectady-Amsterdam meet? I was toying with the idea of hosting something in the summer depending on calendar availability. Tentative ideas include lunch at Jumping Jacks in Scotia, swing by a couple things in Schenectady that I had considered for the Capital District meet in 2016, a stop at Rotterdam Kiwanis Park for an old arch bridge on the Mohawk-Hudson Hike-Bike Trail, lock 9 at the NY 103 bridge (including a clinch of NY 103), the NY 5 construction, the Mohawk Gateway Overlook ped bridge in Amsterdam, drive down the NY 30 "freeway", and stop at Karen's Produce & Ice Cream for ice cream and to walk down to the truss bridges carrying NY 5S and the Erie Canal Trail over Schoharie Creek (one of which is an old rail bridge and both of which have history from the Thruway bridge washout).
https://www.recordernews.com/news/local-news/194249
If you're still considering this, the impending 890 reconstruction project might make it interesting. I'm looking through the contract docs now and some of the detours will make things interesting, especially if we want to stop at the Plotter Kill Aqueduct.
I am still considering it. Likely June or early August if I do it judging by the meet calendar and how my summer calendar usually falls out.
Update: I'm looking at doing Lynchburg on June 11 and Cumberland on Columbus Day weekend.
Quote from: Laura on February 17, 2022, 01:20:06 PM
Update: I'm looking at doing Lynchburg on June 11 and Cumberland on Columbus Day weekend.
Cool! I've updated the list accordingly. I've been wanting to attend the Cumberland meet but knew I likely wouldn't be able to attend if it was happening Memorial Day weekend. Columbus Day weekend makes it more possible for me to attend, but I also want to see the date in October when Nikolai is hosting his Janesville/Beloit WI meet. I may be forced to choose between those two. We'll see.
Quote from: Laura on February 17, 2022, 01:20:06 PM
Update: I'm looking at doing Lynchburg on June 11 and Cumberland on Columbus Day weekend.
Yay!! I really need to get over to Bedford to finish the business routes there (and of course VA 122).
Out of curiosity, has anyone heard anything recently about the West Irondequoit NY or Plattsburgh/Clinton County NY meets that have been proposed/discussed as possibilities for this spring? Is there a chance that either of these meets might still happen in the spring (or some other time in 2022)?
Quote from: Laura on February 17, 2022, 01:20:06 PM
Update: I'm looking at doing Lynchburg on June 11 and Cumberland on Columbus Day weekend.
I can make Columberland work. I think.
Quote from: Laura on February 17, 2022, 01:20:06 PM
Update: I'm looking at doing Lynchburg on June 11 and Cumberland on Columbus Day weekend.
There's a Columbus Day weekend? :bigass:
I'm definitely interested in both Lynchburg and Cumberland, but let's see where I'm living and what I'm doing when those happen.
On that note, expect a 2023 or 2024 meet from me wherever I end up. I have a feeling it'll be somewhere that hasn't had a meet in a while but is still accessible to people.
Right now I'm putting the Twin Cities meet as unlikely. I'll be honest about it. I just don't really want to do it right now.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on February 20, 2022, 12:48:22 AM
Right now I'm putting the Twin Cities meet as unlikely. I'll be honest about it. I just don't really want to do it right now.
Thanks for letting us know. Your honesty is appreciated! No problem... there's always plenty of time to host that meet in the future.
Given that Lynchberg is June 11, I don't expect to try for a Schenectady/Amsterdam meet in that month. Once I find out when the Family Picnic is and whether my parents plan to go to the Thousand Islands or come over to visit me in the Capital District, I'll take a look at the calendar and see if it's possible to squeeze something in during the late July/early August timeframe. It's sure filling up fast!
I've put Cumberland back on my radar since it's back to Columbus Day weekend. Is that still planned for a two day meet, or back down to one?
Judging by the poll results with 2 days to go in the voting, October 22 is the likely date for the OKC meet.
There's a lot going on in October now, so I'll do Janesville in September or November.
Based on what I want to feature, the meet calendar, and my calendar, I've decided to have Schenectady-Amsterdam on August 6.
Quote from: Laura on February 17, 2022, 01:20:06 PM
Update: I'm looking at doing Lynchburg on June 11 and Cumberland on Columbus Day weekend.
Hey, Laura... are you still planning on hosting Cumberland the weekend of October 8-9?
^ I am curious about the status of the Cumberland meet as well. I'm at the point where I need to start firming up my plans for September/October a bit.
As we are inching closer to fall, I thought I should follow up on this thread and clean up our 2022 road-meet list a bit if I can.
Specifically, I'm wondering if any of these potential meets on the list might still be happening this year:
- Cumberland MD - October 8?
- Shawangunk NY?
- Nice Bridge/U.S. 301 (Dahlgren VA) mini-meet?
I'll keep them on the list if there's a chance that they'll take place, but I'd prefer to remove them now if we already know that none of them are happening this year. Thanks in advance for anyone who can help me clean up the list.
I am not planning to proceed with anything at the Nice Bridge at this point. That should probably be removed.
Would anyone ever be interested in a meet somewhere in Toronto
Quote from: andrepoiy on August 26, 2022, 11:31:26 AM
Would anyone ever be interested in a meet somewhere in Toronto
Sure.
Quote from: 74/171FAN on August 26, 2022, 07:29:37 AM
I am not planning to proceed with anything at the Nice Bridge at this point. That should probably be removed.
Thanks for letting me know. I'll remove it.
Quote from: andrepoiy on August 26, 2022, 11:31:26 AM
Would anyone ever be interested in a meet somewhere in Toronto
Absolutely!! I love Canada and would love another reason to go to Toronto. :)
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on August 26, 2022, 01:38:16 PM
Quote from: andrepoiy on August 26, 2022, 11:31:26 AM
Would anyone ever be interested in a meet somewhere in Toronto
Absolutely!! I love Canada and would love another reason to go to Toronto. :)
There was a Toronto meet back in 2016. Not sure how much has changed since.
Quote from: baugh17 on August 26, 2022, 08:45:14 PM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on August 26, 2022, 01:38:16 PM
Quote from: andrepoiy on August 26, 2022, 11:31:26 AM
Would anyone ever be interested in a meet somewhere in Toronto
Absolutely!! I love Canada and would love another reason to go to Toronto. :)
There was a Toronto meet back in 2016. Not sure how much has changed since.
New Highway 401 widening opening soon by the looks of it, new Highway 427 extension, and one section of the Gardiner been completely replaced (and also the demolished ramps to Lake Shore)... some things have changed for sure, not sure if people would be interested in checking those things out though
Quote from: andrepoiy on August 26, 2022, 11:31:26 AM
Would anyone ever be interested in a meet somewhere in Toronto
Might be a good 2023 idea at this time in the season (and to hopefully make border crossings easier).
Indeed, is the Cumberland meet Laura mentioned for Indigenous Peoples' Day weekend still happening?
The Cumberland meet is not happening this year. Look for it next year.
Quote from: Alps on September 03, 2022, 08:35:43 PM
The Cumberland meet is not happening this year. Look for it next year.
I've crossed it off from the list. The only other meet I'm still wondering about is Shawangunk. Haven't heard anything about it recently, so I assume it's not happening. Does anyone know for sure?
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on September 03, 2022, 10:11:37 PM
Quote from: Alps on September 03, 2022, 08:35:43 PM
The Cumberland meet is not happening this year. Look for it next year.
I've crossed it off from the list. The only other meet I'm still wondering about is Shawangunk. Haven't heard anything about it recently, so I assume it's not happening. Does anyone know for sure?
I'd say Shawangunk isn't happening. David Gulub mentioned it once, last fall (or winter), and has never brought it back up.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on September 03, 2022, 10:42:52 PM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on September 03, 2022, 10:11:37 PM
Quote from: Alps on September 03, 2022, 08:35:43 PM
The Cumberland meet is not happening this year. Look for it next year.
I've crossed it off from the list. The only other meet I'm still wondering about is Shawangunk. Haven't heard anything about it recently, so I assume it's not happening. Does anyone know for sure?
I'd say Shawangunk isn't happening. David Gulub mentioned it once, last fall (or winter), and has never brought it back up.
Not this year, given how far into the year it is at this point. I'm still interested in doing it, but it wouldn't be until at least 2023 at this point.
It would be cool if people could just fly like Superman so they could go to any meet.
Quote from: dgolub on September 05, 2022, 08:10:04 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on September 03, 2022, 10:42:52 PM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on September 03, 2022, 10:11:37 PM
Quote from: Alps on September 03, 2022, 08:35:43 PM
The Cumberland meet is not happening this year. Look for it next year.
I've crossed it off from the list. The only other meet I'm still wondering about is Shawangunk. Haven't heard anything about it recently, so I assume it's not happening. Does anyone know for sure?
I'd say Shawangunk isn't happening. David Gulub mentioned it once, last fall (or winter), and has never brought it back up.
Not this year, given how far into the year it is at this point. I'm still interested in doing it, but it wouldn't be until at least 2023 at this point.
Thanks for the update! I crossed off Shawangunk from the 2022 list.
Quote from: bandit957 on September 05, 2022, 08:11:38 PM
It would be cool if people could just fly like Superman so they could go to any meet.
It would take a while to get there. Flying (in this context) is slower than driving, since you would be moving under your own power and you're not in a vehicle.
It's probably safe to start a 2023 thread now that we're past Labor Day. A couple proposals have already been thrown out for late spring. I also heard about something else but I'll let that person announce it when they're ready.
Quote from: signalman on September 06, 2022, 05:17:42 AM
It's probably safe to start a 2023 thread now that we're past Labor Day. A couple proposals have already been thrown out for late spring. I also heard about something else but I'll let that person announce it when they're ready.
Right now I'm only aware of three meets that have been proposed/announced for 2023 which isn't enough, in my opinion, to start a separate thread yet. Once a few more have been announced, I may do that... but I also should remind folks that I don't have a monopoly on creating such a list. Just because I created/maintained this list for the last few years doesn't mean I have to do it again for 2023... but I gladly will if enough meets have been proposed/announced and no one else has started a list yet.
Quote from: 1 on September 05, 2022, 08:41:10 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on September 05, 2022, 08:11:38 PM
It would be cool if people could just fly like Superman so they could go to any meet.
It would take a while to get there. Flying (in this context) is slower than driving, since you would be moving under your own power and you're not in a vehicle.
Last I heard, Superman could fly faster than a speeding bullet. Context indeed...
Quote from: Rothman on September 06, 2022, 06:55:53 AM
Quote from: 1 on September 05, 2022, 08:41:10 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on September 05, 2022, 08:11:38 PM
It would be cool if people could just fly like Superman so they could go to any meet.
It would take a while to get there. Flying (in this context) is slower than driving, since you would be moving under your own power and you're not in a vehicle.
Last I heard, Superman could fly faster than a speeding bullet. Context indeed...
My reference point was Minecraft, where flying (in Creative Mode) is faster than walking or running, but nowhere near 15 times faster (the ratio between 60 mph [driving] and 4 mph [walking]). Other games that allow flying without a vehicle, typically in debug-type modes or noclip mode, are similar.
Without the other powers that Superman has, flying faster than a speeding bullet would be really dangerous. First, limits to acceleration. If you accelerate or decelerate too fast, your body can't handle it. Also, hitting something would be fatal, and since you're going that fast, you could easily miss seeing an object. There's also the issue of wind – if you're going 500 mph, you're going to feel a 500 mph wind.
Quote from: 1 on September 06, 2022, 07:13:14 AM
Quote from: Rothman on September 06, 2022, 06:55:53 AM
Quote from: 1 on September 05, 2022, 08:41:10 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on September 05, 2022, 08:11:38 PM
It would be cool if people could just fly like Superman so they could go to any meet.
It would take a while to get there. Flying (in this context) is slower than driving, since you would be moving under your own power and you're not in a vehicle.
Last I heard, Superman could fly faster than a speeding bullet. Context indeed...
My reference point was Minecraft, where flying (in Creative Mode) is faster than walking or running, but nowhere near 15 times faster (the ratio between 60 mph [driving] and 4 mph [walking]). Other games that allow flying without a vehicle, typically in debug-type modes or noclip mode, are similar.
Without the other powers that Superman has, flying faster than a speeding bullet would be really dangerous. First, limits to acceleration. If you accelerate or decelerate too fast, your body can't handle it. Also, hitting something would be fatal, and since you're going that fast, you could easily miss seeing an object. There's also the issue of wind – if you're going 500 mph, you're going to feel a 500 mph wind.
What did Minecraft have to do with Superman?
Superman flies around without any issues, so if I fly like him, I won't have issues, either.
^ Yeah, that's an odd leap... I'd sooner make the leap to Glory Girl/Antares (https://worm.fandom.com/wiki/Victoria_Dallon#Flight) from Worm/Ward; given that she can fly at 80-100 mph, she could get somewhere faster by flying than driving.
Sorry for my late reply - Alps is correct - I now have to work the weekend of Oct 8-9 so I will host Cumberland, MD next year.