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#1
Northeast / Re: Interstate 81 in Syracuse
Last post by Rothman - Today at 09:53:09 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on Today at 07:58:33 PMSo far, Google Maps has only renumbered Exit 9 on Interstate 81 as Exit 38. All the other exits on the rest of 81, Interstate/NY 481, and Interstate/NY 690 still have the old sequential exit numbers. I just checked the Interstate 81 and Interstate 481 pages on Wikipedia, and I agree they really screwed up the new exit numbers. Hopefully it will be corrected in time.

Wrong.  Two more exits have been switched over in Cortland County, silly man.
#2
General Highway Talk / Re: Clinching Border Crossing ...
Last post by Rothman - Today at 09:49:53 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on Today at 03:13:41 PMNot every border crossing is maintained by a DOT right up to international borders.  In the case of CA 905 it does end at the border at Postmile SD R11.737.  On the other hand, nearby I-5 ends short of the actual border at Postmile SD R0.305 (at Camino De La Plaza specifically). 

Of course, this kind of thing is where I tend to draw the line with the practice of being overly anal about clinching numbered highways.  Trying to cross international borders just to get a sliver of road maintained by a state isn't something I see as a worthwhile investment of time.  I'm not sure what is obtained by the practice aside from minor bragging rights on this forum and TM? 

Pfft.  Maintenance means little.  The route is what matters, no matter who maintains it (see also NYC).

What is obtained by clinching the entire route is knowing that you clinched the entire route and did not leave a sliver behind.  99% =/= 100%.
#3
General Highway Talk / Re: Ideas Exclusive To One Sta...
Last post by andrepoiy - Today at 09:40:12 PM
Quote from: Henry on July 22, 2024, 10:14:06 PM
Quote from: rhen_var on July 22, 2024, 07:46:03 PMThey're not states, but I really like how in Ontario and Quebec the exits to the US list the Interstate highways they connect to across the border on the exit signs.  Ok the US side they should do the same - I-94 TO ON-402, I-190 TO ON-405, the Gordie Howe Bridge exit should have an ON-401 shield and the Peace Bridge a QEW shield.
While we're on the subject of Canada, I like how ON plasters its tourism logo on the top right corner of its VMS's:



That's definitely something I'd like to see here in America!

That's the (now former) logo of the government of Ontario.

Here's the current one:





This is the tourism logo:

#4
Off-Topic / Re: Things you bought for your...
Last post by Henry - Today at 09:32:38 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 20, 2024, 04:38:39 PMI own far more video games that I've wanted now than I did when I was half my age (10).
Same is true for my CD and cassette collection. I remember ordering a ton of them from Columbia House, back when it was the big trend in retail. Since I can no longer play my old cassettes in my car anymore, I just record them to a blank CD and that way, I'm still able to enjoy them on a long road trip.
#5
Off-Topic / Re: I started a blog about LOS...
Last post by Henry - Today at 09:27:03 PM
One song I'd love to have showcased is the Chicago song 25 or 6 to 4 (and not just because the band was named after my hometown!). I used to love singing along to the refrain, which is probably the catchiest one of all time. While a lot of their old hits have seen regular radio airplay over the years, this is sadly not one of them, though it's clear to see the reason why.
#7
local news just announced it will open in August, but gave no date. 37 will die when this happens, it is already not a part of the sign plans for 69 on the NE side or the sign plans for it at this interchange on the south side, you can tell from what is already uncovered. I wonder if they will take them down in Monroe County that is the only area it's cosigned besides Hamilton county.
#8
General Highway Talk / Re: Freeway entrance signage p...
Last post by roadman65 - Today at 08:34:27 PM
Quote from: TheStranger on July 17, 2024, 05:45:05 AMA unique situation I just discovered while looking at one of the more common instances of CalTrans's usage of the "Implied TO" type of signing:

in much of the area where US 101 runs on the Santa Ana Freeway, the signage instead points to the routes that 101 ends at, which is 10 east and 5 south.  (This is in part because of I-5 taking over the vast majority of the Santa Ana Freeway length after the remaining 101 portion has reached its end)
example of that:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0612711,-118.2497219,3a,75y,48.52h,106.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sjP-Nj31CyQaX8Tx8xPErug!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DjP-Nj31CyQaX8Tx8xPErug%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D48.52048342311423%26pitch%3D-16.03120712122032%26thumbfov%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu

(Since about 2009, US 101 southbound at that point is now signed as "US 101 TO 5/10/60" to make it very clear that 101 continues south past the Four-Level, and south past the San Bernardino Split)

There's one example of this where the freeway entrance sign points to US 101 south still, despite the overhead signage only identifying I-5 and I-10 -
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0547998,-118.2394841,3a,75y,118.26h,87.41t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sr6Rtglqu05HvTjBibvrYig!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Dr6Rtglqu05HvTjBibvrYig%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D118.25960775984123%26pitch%3D2.589658137025495%26thumbfov%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu

However - and this is the key concept of the thread! - this also results in a situation in which a surface-street onramp along Aliso Street (itself former US 101) points to "I-5 South - Santa Ana Freeway" with no 101 signage present, despite I-5 not arriving onto the Santa Ana Freeway for another 2 1/4 miles!
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0522379,-118.2259128,3a,75y,89.61h,101.58t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sA0FnS2iPFyjhE92DzZgJgQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DA0FnS2iPFyjhE92DzZgJgQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D89.61430503239575%26pitch%3D-11.57842501381218%26thumbfov%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu

This despite the fact that the first signs for this very ramp (at Mission Road) do mention 101!!!
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0524731,-118.2265998,3a,75y,124.64h,91.52t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1ssyGeRh4fPkkZh0s0n6HuKQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DsyGeRh4fPkkZh0s0n6HuKQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D124.6412808047512%26pitch%3D-1.5212888448526058%26thumbfov%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu

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I remembered an example of this closer to home, Route 82 at I-380, where the ramp from Route 82 north to 380 east only mentions 101:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6324355,-122.4185985,3a,34.5y,352.96h,97.09t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sZGFRmIjMPfOPCKhN2yvKWg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DZGFRmIjMPfOPCKhN2yvKWg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D352.9644530298146%26pitch%3D-7.090060390508867%26thumbfov%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu

The southbound ramp from Route 82 used to be like this too, but now includes a I-380 shield:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6322724,-122.4189643,3a,75y,180.87h,92.12t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sOKQO9E0eokfenyhL1g_lBw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DOKQO9E0eokfenyhL1g_lBw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D180.86608814737693%26pitch%3D-2.1169527062942564%26thumbfov%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu




https://maps.app.goo.gl/gVkufDjs5pPx9FWo6
The 110 exit ramp guide at least acknowledges that US 101 exists south of the Four Level and I-5 NB is later accessible via straight through 110 as well.
#9
Traffic Control / Re: Road Sign UNO
Last post by formulanone - Today at 08:31:35 PM
16 foot height for tunnel on Ohio 175:

#10
General Highway Talk / Re: Freeway entrance signage p...
Last post by roadman65 - Today at 08:28:30 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/L8faR3CkKUFH5whc8
The ramp to NJ 24 is really I-78 local to NJ Route 24 starting from Exit 48 in 1 mile.

The reason is the Express I-78 has a ramp beyond this ramp and signed for I-78 through traffic.

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