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US 111 proposed in Kentucky and Tennessee

Started by hbelkins, September 06, 2024, 01:58:33 PM

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Molandfreak

Quote from: Rothman on September 09, 2024, 03:16:29 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on September 09, 2024, 02:37:57 PMHot take, but any three-digit highway involving a 1 should use a two-digit shield. There's just too much wasted space there, encouraging ugly stuff like this to happen. Any one-digit US highway or two-digit including a 1 should use the 1961 spec shield; there is no legibility benefit to widening the shield for those numbers.

I don't think that's solely a three-digit issue:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Fy1E1nBMjHn3KKPcA
Which is part of the point. The number 11 works best in a 1961-spec shield, and the number 111 works best in a 1971-spec two-digit shield.Get me a jury and show me how to make "111" look good in a three-digit shield and I'll... make cheese for you.
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PColumbus73

Sounds like a reasonable proposal. I think the intersections could be reworked in Somerset to have a continuous route instead of the two right turns to stay on the proposed US 111.

I can see why Tennessee would prefer 111 since it would replace the existing TN highway which I would guess is pretty important to the area. If it does go through, hopefully it comes with decommissioning routes like KY 461 and 1247. I think 111 could end at US 25 instead of having a 3/4 mile concurrency to I-75.

Side note: This sign placement is awful, completely hidden by the overpasses:

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.032378,-85.3187463,3a,32.8y,131.09h,94.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swPsKonnaDKqee_QkrIDIlw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205409&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDkwNC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

hbelkins

Keep in mind that TN 111 has already changed numbers once, at least the part from Cookeville to Static. It used to be TN 42, and there were even a few residual TN 42 mileage markers left along the route the last time I drove it.

I'm pretty sure that the KY 461 designation would be eliminated should the US 111 designation be applied.

As an alternative to having the US 25/US 111 concurrency, how about routing US 25 on I-75 and extending US 150 southeasterly to end at I-75?
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Mapmikey

Quote from: Molandfreak on September 09, 2024, 02:37:57 PMHot take, but any three-digit highway involving a 1 should use a two-digit shield. There's just too much wasted space there, encouraging ugly stuff like this to happen. Any one-digit US highway or two-digit including a 1 should use the 1961 spec shield; there is no legibility benefit to widening the shield for those numbers.

It is possible to make 111 look decent in a 3-digit VA shield
https://maps.app.goo.gl/sFkBZBMdhsbNFMdu7

wriddle082

Quote from: Mapmikey on September 10, 2024, 12:09:01 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on September 09, 2024, 02:37:57 PMHot take, but any three-digit highway involving a 1 should use a two-digit shield. There's just too much wasted space there, encouraging ugly stuff like this to happen. Any one-digit US highway or two-digit including a 1 should use the 1961 spec shield; there is no legibility benefit to widening the shield for those numbers.

It is possible to make 111 look decent in a 3-digit VA shield
https://maps.app.goo.gl/sFkBZBMdhsbNFMdu7


Indeed it is, and this is the type of spacing I would expect TDOT to use on a 3-digit shield.

At least I hope they don't try to do what Texas and Florida like to do with 3di interstate shields!



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