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Lowest route number not used for a freeway?

Started by hotdogPi, April 18, 2015, 01:20:13 PM

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hotdogPi

Positive integers only, and United States only.

Freeways to rule out lower numbers (Interstates automatically have their numbers skipped):
DE 1
MA 3
US 6 (Cape Cod, MA)
US 7 (I-84)
CT 9
NH 11 (I-89)
US 13 (Suffolk, VA)
CA 14
NJ 18
NJ 21
US 23 (Toledo, OH) [city changed after original post]
PA 28
US 31 (Indianapolis)
MD 32
US 33 (Fort Wayne, IN)
US 34 (Galesburg, IL) [added after original post]
US 36 (Indianapolis)
IA 38 (I-80) [added after original post]
NJ 42
US 46 (George Washington Bridge)
MN 47 (Minneapolis)
[48]
US 50 (Chesapeake Bay Bridge)
US 51 (near Madison, WI)
US 52 (Indianapolis)
IL 53
US 54 (El Paso)
CA 56
CA 58
CA 60
US 61 (St. Paul)
MN 62 (Minneapolis)
PA 63 (next to the Delaware River)
CA 67
CA 92
US 98 (I-55) [added after original post]
MD 100
US 101
[102]
CA 103 [added after original post]
NY 104 (Rochester)
[106]


Open: 48, 102, 106, and higher numbers
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13,44,50
MA 22,40,107,109,117,119,126,141,159
NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; UK A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; FR95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 25 (updated from 14)

New: MA 14, 123


ekt8750

Not quite sure what you're doing here but if it's what I think it is then PA 3 is a surface road its entire length.

oscar

#2
Quote from: ekt8750 on April 18, 2015, 02:03:58 PM
Not quite sure what you're doing here but if it's what I think it is then PA 3 is a surface road its entire length.

I think it's "lowest number not used for a freeway anywhere in the U.S." So MA 3 takes care of 3, everywhere, without getting into other freeways also numbered 3 (like parts of US 3).

US 34, a few miles of which is freeway in Galesburg IL, takes care of that number. But there is no US 38, 102, 103, and 106, US 48 in WV has interchanges but enough at-grades to disqualify it as a "freeway", and IIRC US 98 has no freeway segments, so for those numbers we'd need to look at state routes.
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J N Winkler

SR 38 in Alabama (which overlaps with US 280) probably disqualifies 38 as lowest number if we are considering unsigned routes.  Are we?
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oscar

Quote from: J N Winkler on April 18, 2015, 03:32:35 PM
SR 38 in Alabama (which overlaps with US 280) probably disqualifies 38 as lowest number if we are considering unsigned routes.  Are we?

If that doesn't do it, IA 38 (concurrent with I-80 for a few miles) should do the trick.
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jakeroot

Washington State Route 4 is single carriageway throughout its length between the 5 and 101.

vtk

US 23's freeway status around Upper Sandusky, Marion, that whole area is kind of shaky. But in the Toledo area and north into Michigan, it's undisputable.
Wait, it's all Ohio? Always has been.

tcorlandoinsavannah

If I understand the topic correctly, I'll nominate Florida State Road 2.

hotdogPi

For those suggesting numbers below 10: Those numbers are used for freeways in other places. It's "lowest number not used for a freeway", NOT "lowest-numbered road that is not a freeway".
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13,44,50
MA 22,40,107,109,117,119,126,141,159
NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; UK A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; FR95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 25 (updated from 14)

New: MA 14, 123

jeffandnicole

I think I got it:  Somewhere in the United States, Route 1 thru Route 47 is a freeway at least somewhere.  For example: DE 1, I-2, MA 3, I-4, I-5, US 6, etc., are all freeways.   Thus, we are trying to list a route number that has not been mentioned yet that *IS* a freeway somewhere within the country.  And then based on that list, we'll figure out what the lowest number is that never is a freeway.

So currently, based on the list above, Route 48 is not a freeway anywhere in the country as far as we know.

hobsini2

Quote from: oscar on April 18, 2015, 03:50:43 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on April 18, 2015, 03:32:35 PM
SR 38 in Alabama (which overlaps with US 280) probably disqualifies 38 as lowest number if we are considering unsigned routes.  Are we?
If we are looking for none cosigned routes, IL 38 Roosevelt Rd is officially a freeway between Route 83 and I-294.
If that doesn't do it, IA 38 (concurrent with I-80 for a few miles) should do the trick.
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tcorlandoinsavannah

Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 18, 2015, 05:44:35 PM
I think I got it:  Somewhere in the United States, Route 1 thru Route 47 is a freeway at least somewhere.  For example: DE 1, I-2, MA 3, I-4, I-5, US 6, etc., are all freeways.   Thus, we are trying to list a route number that has not been mentioned yet that *IS* a freeway somewhere within the country.  And then based on that list, we'll figure out what the lowest number is that never is a freeway.

So currently, based on the list above, Route 48 is not a freeway anywhere in the country as far as we know.

You might have nailed it.  However, according to the ever-reliable Wikipedia, some sections of US 48 in WV will soon be, or are being, upgraded to freeway status.  I can't confirm that on any mapping site, though.

froggie

US 98 has a freeway segment on the south side of Hattiesburg, MS.  Barring that, the OP used Interstate concurrencies as justification, and US 98 has concurrencies with I-55 and I-59.

Pete from Boston

Quote from: 1 on April 18, 2015, 01:20:13 PM
Positive integers only, and United States only.

Freeways to rule out lower numbers (Interstates automatically have their numbers skipped):
DE 1
MA 3
US 6 (Cape Cod, MA)
US 7 (I-84)
CT 9
NH 11 (I-89)
US 13 (Suffolk, VA)
CA 14
NJ 18
NJ 21
US 23 (Toledo, OH) [city changed after original post]
PA 28
US 31 (Indianapolis)
MD 32
US 33 (Fort Wayne, IN)
US 34 (Galesburg, IL) [added after original post]
US 36 (Indianapolis)
IA 38 (I-80) [added after original post]
NJ 42
US 46 (George Washington Bridge)
MN 47 (Minneapolis
[48]
US 50 (Chesapeake Bay Bridge)
US 51 (near Madison, WI)
US 52 (Indianapolis)
IL 53
US 54 (El Paso)
CA 56
CA 58
CA 60
US 61 (St. Paul)
MN 62 (Minneapolis)
PA 63 (next to the Delaware River)
CA 67
CA 92
[98]
MD 100
US 101
[102]
[103]
NY 104 (Rochester)
[106]

Open: 48, 98, 102, 103, 106, and higher numbers

I'm surprised you missed Mass. Route 2, which is a freeway for dozens of miles.

vdeane

He automatically skipped all numbers that are an interstate.
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DTComposer

CA-103 is, for the time being, the Terminal Island Freeway.

JustDrive

The southernmost 65 miles of CA 14 are freeway. And a very busy one at that.

CNGL-Leudimin

#17
Quote from: 1 on April 18, 2015, 01:20:13 PM
Positive integers only, and United States only.

At least you said US only, because I would came up with A-48 expressway in Southern Spain :sombrero:.
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3467

Illinois 1 has some multilane sections but none are freeway. However it was proposed as a supplemental Freeway before Indiana made US 41 an expressway.
But to your point IL 2 and IL 5 have both been mostly or partly replaced by I-88,which was originally IL 5 . Even though some of the low number Illinois routes became freeways. they were the original rote numbers for the sate road bond issues. US 67 was SBI 3 for instance

ctsignguy

CONN 9 is a freeway for much of it's length (aside from that short stretch in Middletown).....However, i dont think CONN 4 is a freeway at any point of it's run
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signalman

Quote from: ctsignguy on April 19, 2015, 04:06:36 PM
However, i dont think CONN 4 is a freeway at any point of it's run
Conn 4 may not be a freeway, but 4 is an Interstate, so that number is out.

Thing 342

#21
Has AZ-48 been designated along Fain Rd in Prescott yet? (and if so, does that count as a freeway?)

Would the FL-102 connector to the Jacksonville Airport count as a freeway?

freebrickproductions

Does it have to be signed? Because if not, then AL 2 might count as it doesn't even touch a freeway (other then the very eastern end of I-565 and where it crosses over I-65).
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Quote from: Thing 342 on April 19, 2015, 06:32:03 PM
Would the FL-102 connector to the Jacksonville Airport count as a freeway?
No. Neither does US 48 (despite WVDOT calling it one on signs). But the older US 48 was a freeway.
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Rover_0

Quote from: Thing 342 on April 19, 2015, 06:32:03 PM
Has AZ-48 been designated along Fain Rd in Prescott yet? (and if so, does that count as a freeway?)

IIRC wasn't it renamed AZ-89A Spur or something like that?
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