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Started by hotdogPi, October 12, 2013, 04:50:12 PM

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roadman

Quote from: Ben114 on May 31, 2020, 11:40:42 PM
Quote from: shadyjay on May 31, 2020, 08:40:04 PM
Gotcha... thanks.  So that means the project (Raynham to Bolton) is still going on? 
I can see a sign or so getting missed in an entire project ("there's always one" in CT projects it seems), but the amount I saw not replaced was a little high.

I think it's still going on, just at a slow pace. If it is "done", I wonder what they'll do when adding the new exit numbers later this year.

Exit tabs on the I-495 project are designed to accommodate the longer of either the current sequential or the new milepost-based number.  The exit renumbering contracts will call for the contractor to coordinate with other ongoing sign work.  If signs in those projects have already been fabricated and installed, the exit renumbering contractor will overlay a new number on the sign.  If signs haven't yet been fabricated or installed, the sign project contractor will use the new number on the sign.
"And ninety-five is the route you were on.  It was not the speed limit sign."  - Jim Croce (from Speedball Tucker)

"My life has been a tapestry
Of years of roads and highway signs" (with apologies to Carole King and Tom Rush)


SectorZ

So it looks like we had a rarity in Massachusetts recently, a small realignment of a state route. 62 in Clinton was moved for a small stretch. Google maps still has the old routing here, but it's now signed to run on Sterling St parallel south of the routing on Brook St, https://goo.gl/maps/1EVXRuRhpgxzHxZb9

Per GSV from 10/19, it was changed by that point on the eastern end
https://goo.gl/maps/bGrX7V3CTRwQreRn7
https://goo.gl/maps/63qyk8T1zFDD6yvV7
With the old left turn sign for 62 removed
https://goo.gl/maps/rQ4o6D4mnXtozH3GA

But not on the western end
https://goo.gl/maps/x9NEUazXWbWJBHDF6

deathtopumpkins

Any idea what the reason for the reroute was? I can't see much of a difference between Brook and Sterling.
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hotdogPi

Can someone list every single change in the Massachusetts route system since ~1980? I don't think there are that many. The ones I know of:


  • US 1 no longer goes through Boston city streets
  • US 44 rerouted onto freeway
  • The MA 62 change just mentioned
  • MA 127 no longer ends at itself
  • MA 140 in Gardner rerouted into bypass
Clinched, minus I-93 (I'm missing a few miles and my file is incorrect)

Traveled, plus US 13, 44, and 50, and several state routes

I will be in Burlington VT for the eclipse.

SectorZ

Quote from: deathtopumpkins on June 05, 2020, 07:41:50 AM
Any idea what the reason for the reroute was? I can't see much of a difference between Brook and Sterling.

I can't find anything about it, either news story or press release. It is more direct as it removes the turn at the west end of the change.

SectorZ

Quote from: 1 on June 05, 2020, 08:52:14 AM
Can someone list every single change in the Massachusetts route system since ~1980? I don't think there are that many. The ones I know of:


  • US 1 no longer goes through Boston city streets
  • US 44 rerouted onto freeway
  • The MA 62 change just mentioned
  • MA 127 no longer ends at itself
  • MA 140 in Gardner rerouted into bypass

  • 129 being moved into downtown Lynn + creation of 129A on the old 129, mid 90's
  • 107 extended north in Salem on new bypass route of 1A, late 00's
  • 52 becoming I-395, early 80's
  • I-190 opened, early 80's
  • I-90 extended thru TWT, early 00's

Probably a few others out there I've missed too, since these are just off the top of my head. Compared to other states, changes are pretty few and far between.

Ben114

Quote from: SectorZ on June 05, 2020, 09:58:17 AM
Quote from: 1 on June 05, 2020, 08:52:14 AM
Can someone list every single change in the Massachusetts route system since ~1980? I don't think there are that many. The ones I know of:


  • US 1 no longer goes through Boston city streets
  • US 44 rerouted onto freeway
  • The MA 62 change just mentioned
  • MA 127 no longer ends at itself
  • MA 140 in Gardner rerouted into bypass

  • 129 being moved into downtown Lynn + creation of 129A on the old 129, mid 90's
  • 107 extended north in Salem on new bypass route of 1A, late 00's
  • 52 becoming I-395, early 80's
  • I-190 opened, early 80's
  • I-90 extended thru TWT, early 00's

Probably a few others out there I've missed too, since these are just off the top of my head. Compared to other states, changes are pretty few and far between.

146 rerouted onto a freeway, '07

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: SectorZ on June 05, 2020, 09:58:17 AM
Quote from: 1 on June 05, 2020, 08:52:14 AM
Can someone list every single change in the Massachusetts route system since ~1980? I don't think there are that many. The ones I know of:


  • US 1 no longer goes through Boston city streets
  • US 44 rerouted onto freeway
  • The MA 62 change just mentioned
  • MA 127 no longer ends at itself
  • MA 140 in Gardner rerouted into bypass

  • 129 being moved into downtown Lynn + creation of 129A on the old 129, mid 90's
  • 107 extended north in Salem on new bypass route of 1A, late 00's
  • 52 becoming I-395, early 80's
  • I-190 opened, early 80's
  • I-90 extended thru TWT, early 00's

Probably a few others out there I've missed too, since these are just off the top of my head. Compared to other states, changes are pretty few and far between.
When was MA 135 cut back to I-95?
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SectorZ

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 05, 2020, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on June 05, 2020, 09:58:17 AM
Quote from: 1 on June 05, 2020, 08:52:14 AM
Can someone list every single change in the Massachusetts route system since ~1980? I don't think there are that many. The ones I know of:


  • US 1 no longer goes through Boston city streets
  • US 44 rerouted onto freeway
  • The MA 62 change just mentioned
  • MA 127 no longer ends at itself
  • MA 140 in Gardner rerouted into bypass

  • 129 being moved into downtown Lynn + creation of 129A on the old 129, mid 90's
  • 107 extended north in Salem on new bypass route of 1A, late 00's
  • 52 becoming I-395, early 80's
  • I-190 opened, early 80's
  • I-90 extended thru TWT, early 00's

Probably a few others out there I've missed too, since these are just off the top of my head. Compared to other states, changes are pretty few and far between.
When was MA 135 cut back to I-95?

I found a map from 1970 showing it end at what was then 128, so appears it's been that way for a long while.

Alps

What's the official word on 1A in Boston? Is that rerouted?

RobbieL2415

Quote from: SectorZ on June 05, 2020, 09:58:17 AM
Quote from: 1 on June 05, 2020, 08:52:14 AM
Can someone list every single change in the Massachusetts route system since ~1980? I don't think there are that many. The ones I know of:


  • US 1 no longer goes through Boston city streets
  • US 44 rerouted onto freeway
  • The MA 62 change just mentioned
  • MA 127 no longer ends at itself
  • MA 140 in Gardner rerouted into bypass

  • 129 being moved into downtown Lynn + creation of 129A on the old 129, mid 90's
  • 107 extended north in Salem on new bypass route of 1A, late 00's
  • 52 becoming I-395, early 80's
  • I-190 opened, early 80's
  • I-90 extended thru TWT, early 00's

Probably a few others out there I've missed too, since these are just off the top of my head. Compared to other states, changes are pretty few and far between.
MA 25 is completed.

bob7374

Quote from: Alps on June 05, 2020, 12:40:37 PM
What's the official word on 1A in Boston? Is that rerouted?
Officially, since the Ted Williams Tunnel was opened, MA 1A North runs concurrently with I-90 East from I-93 North. There is one trailblazer prior to the I-90 Exit on I-93 but no signage along I-90 itself. The route of MA 1A South was not changed.

DJ Particle

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on June 05, 2020, 07:38:57 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on June 05, 2020, 09:58:17 AM
Quote from: 1 on June 05, 2020, 08:52:14 AM
Can someone list every single change in the Massachusetts route system since ~1980? I don't think there are that many. The ones I know of:


  • US 1 no longer goes through Boston city streets
  • US 44 rerouted onto freeway
  • The MA 62 change just mentioned
  • MA 127 no longer ends at itself
  • MA 140 in Gardner rerouted into bypass

  • 129 being moved into downtown Lynn + creation of 129A on the old 129, mid 90's
  • 107 extended north in Salem on new bypass route of 1A, late 00's
  • 52 becoming I-395, early 80's
  • I-190 opened, early 80's
  • I-90 extended thru TWT, early 00's

Probably a few others out there I've missed too, since these are just off the top of my head. Compared to other states, changes are pretty few and far between.
MA 25 is completed.
MA 128's southern terminus changed from MA-3 to I-93

PHLBOS

Quote from: SectorZ on June 05, 2020, 11:26:33 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 05, 2020, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on June 05, 2020, 09:58:17 AM
Quote from: 1 on June 05, 2020, 08:52:14 AM
Can someone list every single change in the Massachusetts route system since ~1980? I don't think there are that many. The ones I know of:


  • US 1 no longer goes through Boston city streets
  • US 44 rerouted onto freeway
  • The MA 62 change just mentioned
  • MA 127 no longer ends at itself
  • MA 140 in Gardner rerouted into bypass

  • 129 being moved into downtown Lynn + creation of 129A on the old 129, mid 90's
  • 107 extended north in Salem on new bypass route of 1A, late 00's
  • 52 becoming I-395, early 80's
  • I-190 opened, early 80's
  • I-90 extended thru TWT, early 00's

Probably a few others out there I've missed too, since these are just off the top of my head. Compared to other states, changes are pretty few and far between.
When was MA 135 cut back to I-95?

I found a map from 1970 showing it end at what was then 128, so appears it's been that way for a long while.
135 was truncated when the Yankee Division Highway (then just-128) was first built in the 1950s.

Other changes since 1980:

I-495 was extended east of I-95 in Mansfield and took over most of MA 25 (up to I-195).

MA 2A was rerouted away from downtown Concord onto its parent MA 2.

I-391 was completed.
GPS does NOT equal GOD

roadman

With the completion of the Task 'A' interchange in 1989, I-95 was rerouted from its short overlap with US 1 in Peabody onto its own roadway.
"And ninety-five is the route you were on.  It was not the speed limit sign."  - Jim Croce (from Speedball Tucker)

"My life has been a tapestry
Of years of roads and highway signs" (with apologies to Carole King and Tom Rush)

PHLBOS

Quote from: roadman on June 12, 2020, 09:46:54 AM
With the completion of the Task 'A' interchange in 1989, I-95 was rerouted from its short overlap with US 1 in Peabody onto its own roadway.
You beat me to the punch regarding I-95; but, to add, the related realignment of MA 128 between I-95 and Lowell St.

Two more recent changes:

MA 2/2A intersection converted to an interchange east of Concord (current Exit 50).

Realignment of I-93 through downtown Boston via the Big Dig
GPS does NOT equal GOD

Roadgeekteen

At the I-90/I-84 interchange, does more traffic stay on I-90 or exit to I-84?
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Current Interstate map I am making:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&mid=1PEDVyNb1skhnkPkgXi8JMaaudM2zI-Y&ll=29.05778059819179%2C-82.48856825&z=5

Alps

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 09, 2020, 06:43:03 PM
At the I-90/I-84 interchange, does more traffic stay on I-90 or exit to I-84?
Without looking it up, my guess is 90 by a little bit.

webny99

I'm not even sure where to find the data for Mass., but I'd have guessed I-84 by a little bit. It's got to be a roughly even split though.

Alps

Quote from: webny99 on July 09, 2020, 11:11:14 PM
I'm not even sure where to find the data for Mass., but I'd have guessed I-84 by a little bit. It's got to be a roughly even split though.
https://www.mass.gov/traffic-volume-and-classification

Seeing 30,188 on the WB ramp. Seeing 106,021 east of there as an AADT, so figure... you're right, more than half are exiting.

D-Dey65

You know I just thought of this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_SVoOwW4Yc
And it makes me think of how much better things would've been if the Boston Metro Area was moving towards this:
https://web.archive.org/web/20110708095852/http://www.brorson.com/maps/BostonHighwayPlan_1965_Detail/BostonHPDetailLevel1.jpg

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1Kchb2rtgwdPEbSQegMfTquLIPG4&ll=42.36681939459386%2C-71.097292&z=11


bob7374

MassDOT has reached a memorandum of understanding with the Army Corps of Engineers regarding the replacement of the Cape Cod bridges, from MassDOT's blog:
http://blog.mass.gov/transportation/massdot-highway/memorandum-of-understanding-reached-between-massdot-and-the-u-s-army-corps-of-engineers-regarding-bourne-and-sagamore-bridges/

Alps

Quote from: bob7374 on July 10, 2020, 12:09:36 PM
MassDOT has reached a memorandum of understanding with the Army Corps of Engineers regarding the replacement of the Cape Cod bridges, from MassDOT's blog:
http://blog.mass.gov/transportation/massdot-highway/memorandum-of-understanding-reached-between-massdot-and-the-u-s-army-corps-of-engineers-regarding-bourne-and-sagamore-bridges/
So the new bridges will be MassDOT bridges.

Pete from Boston

Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 10, 2020, 12:22:33 AM
You know I just thought of this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_SVoOwW4Yc
And it makes me think of how much better things would've been if the Boston Metro Area was moving towards this:
https://web.archive.org/web/20110708095852/http://www.brorson.com/maps/BostonHighwayPlan_1965_Detail/BostonHPDetailLevel1.jpg

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1Kchb2rtgwdPEbSQegMfTquLIPG4&ll=42.36681939459386%2C-71.097292&z=11

Good god, no. More parking lots for 12 hours a day.

Pete from Boston

What's this? I saw a guy abruptly pull off Route 6 here, then looked it up to find this unsigned, unlabeled loop. Several vehicles were parked on it.

https://goo.gl/maps/dNhf56nDr2qpCyyW8




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