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Started by Avalanchez71, September 27, 2022, 10:38:09 PM

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AL 17 was rerouted east of (most of) downtown Florence & UNA many years ago, yet this old AL 17 shield still stands along the former alignment.
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US 89

I don't know how long ago Florida SR 366 was removed from the Pensacola-St Augustine one-way pair in Tallahassee, but there are a few remnant signs for it hanging around.

Mapmikey

Quote from: froggie on September 29, 2022, 09:14:38 PM
The first thing that came to my mind reading this thread is a former example...it is no longer signed as such, but "VA 305" leading into Fort Story from US 60/Beach Blvd was signed for ~54 years after its decommissioning in 1960.

Virginia still has this sign assembly for US 1 ALT, which was renumbered as US 1 mainline in 1971 - https://goo.gl/maps/TU2BjnvWkY1gbqH29

US 258 in Franklin is still posted on High St/4th despite being removed from this area in 1945 - https://goo.gl/maps/rbhbg9hmQox13kNE6

Virginia has 'OLD' routings still posted that way long after the route moved:
1.  OLD VA 6, which swapped routings with VA 151 in 1989 - https://goo.gl/maps/8Wz4hJYG4DKYU1UM9
2.  OLD US 58 ALT which was replaced by VA 74 in 1958 - https://goo.gl/maps/Bzqh746uH3VJmpLYA
3.  A second OLD US 58 ALT routing is still shown in Norton long after its 1988 relocation - https://goo.gl/maps/6cWgiUZ2ySjnid8M6

Former SR 615 in Virginia Beach has modern postings despite it being decommissioned in 1963.  Original valid signage did last into the 1990s though.  Here is an error VA 615 shield - https://goo.gl/maps/THvv4mYzGEEmm96Y7

Incidentally VA 305 in Virginia Beach made it to the GMSV era on the south end - https://goo.gl/maps/wdLNUgLNXh6VWyRf6

andrepoiy

Quote from: Avalanchez71 on September 29, 2022, 11:42:01 PM
Quote from: andrepoiy on September 28, 2022, 10:33:08 PM
The City of Toronto still has vestigial signs from Ontario King Highways (namely Highway 11, 2) that were downloaded to the city... in 2022, 24 years after the fact. I don't know why they're still up given that during that time, pretty much all of the traffic lights have been upgraded and etc.

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In fact, for some reason, this sign was moved from one pole to another between 2019 and 2020... but not removed

2019:
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2020:
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Wasn't LLoyd Avenue once 11A?

As far as my knowledge goes, Highway 11A in Toronto followed University Avenue/Avenue Road. Highway 11A acted as a "faster" way into/out of Toronto, as University Ave/Avenue Road is wider and better suited for through vehicular traffic than Yonge Street (Highway 11) is.

Highway 11A was decommissioned in the 50s but it was signed well into the 90s. In 2022 the signs are pretty much gone, however one of those signs still remain:



JoePCool14

Quote from: andrepoiy on September 30, 2022, 02:19:56 PM
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on September 29, 2022, 11:42:01 PM
Quote from: andrepoiy on September 28, 2022, 10:33:08 PM
The City of Toronto still has vestigial signs from Ontario King Highways (namely Highway 11, 2) that were downloaded to the city... in 2022, 24 years after the fact. I don't know why they're still up given that during that time, pretty much all of the traffic lights have been upgraded and etc.

[image snipped]

In fact, for some reason, this sign was moved from one pole to another between 2019 and 2020... but not removed

2019:
[image snipped]

2020:
[image snipped]

Wasn't LLoyd Avenue once 11A?

As far as my knowledge goes, Highway 11A in Toronto followed University Avenue/Avenue Road. Highway 11A acted as a "faster" way into/out of Toronto, as University Ave/Avenue Road is wider and better suited for through vehicular traffic than Yonge Street (Highway 11) is.

Highway 11A was decommissioned in the 50s but it was signed well into the 90s. In 2022 the signs are pretty much gone, however one of those signs still remain:



Even Google Maps still labels it ON-11A it seems!

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Quote from: Mapmikey on September 30, 2022, 01:32:30 PM
Incidentally VA 305 in Virginia Beach made it to the GMSV era on the south end - https://goo.gl/maps/wdLNUgLNXh6VWyRf6

Now, to be fair, that sign is a modern posting from someone who didn't pay attention to the route being decommissioned half a century ago... but still, it's been posted for half a century after it was decommissioned.

Quote from: andrepoiy on September 28, 2022, 10:33:08 PM
Highway 11A was decommissioned in the 50s but it was signed well into the 90s. In 2022 the signs are pretty much gone, however one of those signs still remain:



Once again, this sign looks like a modern posting by someone who didn't realize the road was gone for 70 years. Still, it makes it a road that's posted 70 years after being decommissioned.
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Avalanchez71

Quote from: Mapmikey on September 30, 2022, 01:32:30 PM
Quote from: froggie on September 29, 2022, 09:14:38 PM
The first thing that came to my mind reading this thread is a former example...it is no longer signed as such, but "VA 305" leading into Fort Story from US 60/Beach Blvd was signed for ~54 years after its decommissioning in 1960.

Virginia still has this sign assembly for US 1 ALT, which was renumbered as US 1 mainline in 1971 - https://goo.gl/maps/TU2BjnvWkY1gbqH29

US 258 in Franklin is still posted on High St/4th despite being removed from this area in 1945 - https://goo.gl/maps/rbhbg9hmQox13kNE6

Virginia has 'OLD' routings still posted that way long after the route moved:
1.  OLD VA 6, which swapped routings with VA 151 in 1989 - https://goo.gl/maps/8Wz4hJYG4DKYU1UM9
2.  OLD US 58 ALT which was replaced by VA 74 in 1958 - https://goo.gl/maps/Bzqh746uH3VJmpLYA
3.  A second OLD US 58 ALT routing is still shown in Norton long after its 1988 relocation - https://goo.gl/maps/6cWgiUZ2ySjnid8M6

Former SR 615 in Virginia Beach has modern postings despite it being decommissioned in 1963.  Original valid signage did last into the 1990s though.  Here is an error VA 615 shield - https://goo.gl/maps/THvv4mYzGEEmm96Y7

Incidentally VA 305 in Virginia Beach made it to the GMSV era on the south end - https://goo.gl/maps/wdLNUgLNXh6VWyRf6

That segment on US 1, google has it as E
Quote from: andrepoiy on September 30, 2022, 02:19:56 PM
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on September 29, 2022, 11:42:01 PM
Quote from: andrepoiy on September 28, 2022, 10:33:08 PM
The City of Toronto still has vestigial signs from Ontario King Highways (namely Highway 11, 2) that were downloaded to the city... in 2022, 24 years after the fact. I don't know why they're still up given that during that time, pretty much all of the traffic lights have been upgraded and etc.

[image snipped]

In fact, for some reason, this sign was moved from one pole to another between 2019 and 2020... but not removed

2019:
[image snipped]

2020:
[image snipped]

Wasn't LLoyd Avenue once 11A?

As far as my knowledge goes, Highway 11A in Toronto followed University Avenue/Avenue Road. Highway 11A acted as a "faster" way into/out of Toronto, as University Ave/Avenue Road is wider and better suited for through vehicular traffic than Yonge Street (Highway 11) is.

Highway 11A was decommissioned in the 50s but it was signed well into the 90s. In 2022 the signs are pretty much gone, however one of those signs still remain:




I think I was thinking of Yonge Street and not Lloyd Avenue.

hbelkins

Holy crap. How could I have forgotten about the US 25E signs posted in Cumberland Gap, Tenn? The infamous TENN-US sign is gone but there is still a 25E sign on the old route.


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Mapmikey

Quote from: Avalanchez71 on September 30, 2022, 07:13:16 PM
That segment on US 1, google has it as E

US 1 through the City of Fredericksburg was recently renamed as Emancipation Hwy

Avalanchez71

Quote from: Mapmikey on September 30, 2022, 10:19:30 PM
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on September 30, 2022, 07:13:16 PM
That segment on US 1, google has it as E

US 1 through the City of Fredericksburg was recently renamed as Emancipation Hwy

My message was cutoff.  I thought it was renamed.  Wasn't something like Jefferson Davis Hwy?

Avalanchez71

Quote from: hbelkins on September 30, 2022, 10:00:51 PM
Holy crap. How could I have forgotten about the US 25E signs posted in Cumberland Gap, Tenn? The infamous TENN-US sign is gone but there is still a 25E sign on the old route.

The infamous TENN 99 sign is gone in Hohenwald.

CNGL-Leudimin

There are many leftovers scattered through La France of National Routes deleted in 1973. Of note is this marker still there as of August 2021 that not only is a remnant of former N713, it also has that number patched over a previous designation (Gc 1), meaning it must have been in place before 1933. It may have been there for over a century now.
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ClassicHasClass

Besides the well-known and very faded BUSINESS CA 30 shields at Waterman and Highland Aves in San Bernardino, there's still a CA 30 at the turnoff from Foothill Blvd (north of the CA 66 terminus at CA 210) in San Dimas onto the old Base Line routing. Went by it a few days ago. Still there.

http://www.floodgap.com/roadgap/30-18-259/3/#sec_9

Vaulter

This sign in Quincy Center still points to Route 128 even though that route was truncated to Canton 25 years ago

https://maps.app.goo.gl/mBEaD9Hz4kU5cgpq9?g_st=ic


Revive 755

* Might be an old street sign somewhere in Illinois for US 66 still around somewhere.  There is at least one for 'Route 66' south of Litchfield without "Old" or "Historic".

* Still some older street signs for Highway 965 in Iowa. But then there are some fairly new ones too for 965 that were installed long after the decommissioning.

jay8g

The University Bridge in Seattle still has a WSDOT bridge marker referring to Secondary State Highway 2-BO. (Two, actually, but the other one is harder to read) That highway was renumbered as SR 522 in 1963, and was cut back to end at I-5 in the same year. These may not be signs intended for the public to read, but 59 years is still a very long time!

Similarly, the Montlake Bridge is still a state route (SR 513), but has bridge markers referring to SSH 1-J.

And despite a lot of changes happening in the area, there's still a sign for SR 900 at Rainier Ave S and MLK Way S in Seattle, 31 years after SR 900 was cut back to end at I-5 rather than continuing to I-90.

bing101

Quote from: TheStranger on September 28, 2022, 08:48:36 PM
There's the Route 7 signage at I-710 and Floral Drive in East Los Angeles, which has been there since at latest the early 1980s (the Long Beach Freeway received its second and final renumbering in 1984) -

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0442198,-118.1686035,3a,15y,265.74h,91.65t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sT3C5o_19kSkjNaADoxHxrQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DT3C5o_19kSkjNaADoxHxrQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D115.857124%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192
That CA-7 sign is either an LA County issue or a city issue even though Caltrans renamed it I-710 and CA-710 for the CA-134@I-210 interchange in Pasadena 4 decades ago and CA-7 has moved to the Imperial valley in 1990.






bing101

Business 80 Sacramento there are some areas where Business 80 is cosigned with US-50 exist even though CalTrans removed Business 80 signs for the West end of US-50/I-305 from i-80 West Sacramento to CA-51 @ CA-99 in Midtown Sacramento back in 2016 for the US-50 renovation.
The only area that is marked as Business 80 is CA-51 which is there due to the persistent rumors of I-9 going from Ridge Route to Midtown Sacramento.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_80_Business_(Sacramento,_California)

hbelkins

Quote from: Avalanchez71 on September 30, 2022, 10:51:22 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 30, 2022, 10:00:51 PM
Holy crap. How could I have forgotten about the US 25E signs posted in Cumberland Gap, Tenn? The infamous TENN-US sign is gone but there is still a 25E sign on the old route.

The infamous TENN 99 sign is gone in Hohenwald.

But that road is still TN 99, it's just the hidden state route designation for US 412 at that point. This thread is about signs on roads that have had their route numbers changed or decommissioned.

I believe those signs at the intersection of old KY 7 and US 60 in Grayson that I photographed years ago have been taken down.


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US 89

Quote from: hbelkins on October 02, 2022, 06:07:06 PM
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on September 30, 2022, 10:51:22 PM
The infamous TENN 99 sign is gone in Hohenwald.

But that road is still TN 99, it's just the hidden state route designation for US 412 at that point. This thread is about signs on roads that have had their route numbers changed or decommissioned.

True, but TN (like most southeastern states) does not sign its SR underlay designations for US routes. Any sign going up there today wouldn't include it. So to the average traveler, the route number went from 99 to 412 and that sign hadn't been changed over, which seems as good a candidate as any for this thread.

hbelkins

Quote from: US 89 on October 03, 2022, 01:09:13 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 02, 2022, 06:07:06 PM
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on September 30, 2022, 10:51:22 PM
The infamous TENN 99 sign is gone in Hohenwald.

But that road is still TN 99, it's just the hidden state route designation for US 412 at that point. This thread is about signs on roads that have had their route numbers changed or decommissioned.

True, but TN (like most southeastern states) does not sign its SR underlay designations for US routes. Any sign going up there today wouldn't include it. So to the average traveler, the route number went from 99 to 412 and that sign hadn't been changed over, which seems as good a candidate as any for this thread.

Most times when the hidden route does get signed, a contractor did it. I discovered a bunch of signs for TN 29 in Oneida along a stretch of US 27 that had been realigned at a couple of intersections.


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Avalanchez71

Quote from: hbelkins on October 03, 2022, 11:20:17 AM
Quote from: US 89 on October 03, 2022, 01:09:13 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 02, 2022, 06:07:06 PM
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on September 30, 2022, 10:51:22 PM
The infamous TENN 99 sign is gone in Hohenwald.

But that road is still TN 99, it's just the hidden state route designation for US 412 at that point. This thread is about signs on roads that have had their route numbers changed or decommissioned.

True, but TN (like most southeastern states) does not sign its SR underlay designations for US routes. Any sign going up there today wouldn't include it. So to the average traveler, the route number went from 99 to 412 and that sign hadn't been changed over, which seems as good a candidate as any for this thread.

Most times when the hidden route does get signed, a contractor did it. I discovered a bunch of signs for TN 29 in Oneida along a stretch of US 27 that had been realigned at a couple of intersections.
I was just pointing out that it was gone when you mentioned the US 25E sign.

7/8

Another Ontario example. Highways 27 and 88 in Bond Head. Both of these were decommissioned on January 1, 1998. Also, note the faint "9" on the Highway 88 shield.

andrepoiy

Quote from: 7/8 on October 04, 2022, 12:12:49 PM
Another Ontario example. Highways 27 and 88 in Bond Head. Both of these were decommissioned on January 1, 1998. Also, note the faint "9" on the Highway 88 shield.

Nice one, I forgot about this. Did Highway 9 used to be routed along Highway 88??

Also I love that completely non-standard EDR sign pointed in the wrong directions haha



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