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Roadsguy

Quote from: LM117 on November 05, 2019, 09:57:38 AM
The 795/264 overlap still uses 264's mileposts and exit numbers

At least this will become a moot point when 264 eventually becomes I-587, a smaller number, but I doubt they were thinking that far ahead...
Mileage-based exit numbering implies the existence of mileage-cringe exit numbering.


sprjus4

Quote from: Roadsguy on November 05, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Quote from: LM117 on November 05, 2019, 09:57:38 AM
The 795/264 overlap still uses 264's mileposts and exit numbers

At least this will become a moot point when 264 eventually becomes I-587, a smaller number, but I doubt they were thinking that far ahead...
I think even if US-264 wasn't slated to become Interstate 587, maintaining its mileage / exit numbers would still be appropriate, since it's the route that has continuity. The I-795 is only used on US-264 to connect drivers back with I-95, but in reality drivers use US-264 to connect with the north-south freeway that doesn't directly connect with I-95, if that makes any sense.

LM117

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Quote from: Roadsguy on November 05, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
Quote from: LM117 on November 05, 2019, 09:57:38 AM
The 795/264 overlap still uses 264's mileposts and exit numbers

At least this will become a moot point when 264 eventually becomes I-587, a smaller number, but I doubt they were thinking that far ahead...

True, and they definitely weren't thinking far ahead. Greenville didn't begin pushing for US-264 to become an interstate until 2012. Wilson, on the other hand, doesn't really care one way or the other. As far as they're concerned, I-95 is good enough for them. The majority of recent growth in Wilson has been between Forest Hills Road and I-95, with more development planned and underway. The eastern and southeastern parts of the city is pretty much dead.
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The Ghostbuster

As I stated in the 587 thread, when US 264 becomes Interstate 587, I think it should be just Interstate 587. Either move US 264 back to its original alignment between Zebulon and Greenville (with a western terminus at US 64/future Interstate 87's Exit 435/future 19), or just truncate US 264 to end at present day Exit 73. I believe that an Interstate 587/US 264 co-currency is overkill, and US 264's overlap with US 64 and Interstate 87 is extreme overkill. I have similar feelings about the continued existence of US 220 along the Interstate 73/74 corridors.

sprjus4

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on November 05, 2019, 02:19:14 PM
I have similar feelings about the continued existence of US 220 along the Interstate 73/74 corridors.
It's even more confusing because north of Candor, the old road is Alt/Bus-220, and the freeway is I-73 / I-74 / US-220, but south of Candor, the old road becomes US-220, and the freeway is solely I-73 / I-74.

That practice used south of Candor should be extended all the way to Greensboro.

LM117

A stretch of NC-180 will be closed this weekend due to bridge girder work on the US-74 Shelby Bypass.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2019/2019-11-05-shelby-bridge-work.aspx
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Third Strike

Quote from: LM117 on November 05, 2019, 03:47:50 PM
A stretch of NC-180 will be closed this weekend due to bridge girder work on the US-74 Shelby Bypass.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2019/2019-11-05-shelby-bridge-work.aspx

Any word on when the bypass will be completed?

cowboy_wilhelm

Quote from: Third Strike on November 05, 2019, 07:18:34 PM
Quote from: LM117 on November 05, 2019, 03:47:50 PM
A stretch of NC-180 will be closed this weekend due to bridge girder work on the US-74 Shelby Bypass.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2019/2019-11-05-shelby-bridge-work.aspx

Any word on when the bypass will be completed?

2027

sprjus4


RoadPelican

BREAKING NEWS: The Greenville SW Bypass will open on Thursday November 21st. 

Sarah Lentine, NCDOT Engineer was a guest on the morning radio show 'Talk of The Town" which is broadcast out of Greenville on 103.7 FM on Tuesday Morning and she stated that the bypass is slated to open on 11/21.  A ribbon cutting ceremony is already being planned, the ceremony time on 11/21 was not mentioned.

If you want to listen to the 10 min interview go to YouTube, then type in "Talk of the Town 10-5-2019 Hwy 11 Update" the interview starts at the 32:00 mark

Other Questions asked:

Will Greenville ever get a full circle beltway?

Nothing is currently being discussed by the NCDOT at this time in regards to completing a full 360 degree beltway around Greenville.  The main focus in Greenville now is with widening existing urban roads such as Evans St, Portertown Rd, Old Tar Rd and Fire Tower Rd.

Will there be any lights along the new bypass?

No

What about at the interchanges?

No, the bypass goes thru some very rural and light residential areas, where lights would not be good for area residents who live close to the bypass.







sprjus4

Good to know it's opening soon, glad they made the November projection. Will have to head down there soon after it opens to check it out.

Hopefully the nearby US-17 Pollocksville Bypass opens within the next couple of weeks as well, along with all 4-lanes of US-17 between Maysville and Pollocksville.

tolbs17

Quote from: RoadPelican on November 05, 2019, 09:19:19 PM

Will there be any lights along the new bypass?

No

What about at the interchanges?

No, the bypass goes thru some very rural and light residential areas, where lights would not be good for area residents who live close to the bypass.
Maybe when development happens on there, finally they could start putting some lights up. If anything, just the Southwest bypass and us 264 interchange.

cowboy_wilhelm

Quote from: sprjus4 on November 05, 2019, 08:57:45 PM
Quote from: cowboy_wilhelm on November 05, 2019, 07:23:07 PM
Quote from: Third Strike on November 05, 2019, 07:18:34 PM
Quote from: LM117 on November 05, 2019, 03:47:50 PM
A stretch of NC-180 will be closed this weekend due to bridge girder work on the US-74 Shelby Bypass.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2019/2019-11-05-shelby-bridge-work.aspx

Any word on when the bypass will be completed?

2027
I could've sworn it was 2070.

It will be at this rate. Drove through there Sunday and the pavement markings still aren't down on the western end. The first section was supposed to open in September. They're averaging one mile per year.

ARMOURERERIC

Quote from: cowboy_wilhelm on November 06, 2019, 07:55:04 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on November 05, 2019, 08:57:45 PM
Quote from: cowboy_wilhelm on November 05, 2019, 07:23:07 PM
Quote from: Third Strike on November 05, 2019, 07:18:34 PM
Quote from: LM117 on November 05, 2019, 03:47:50 PM
A stretch of NC-180 will be closed this weekend due to bridge girder work on the US-74 Shelby Bypass.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2019/2019-11-05-shelby-bridge-work.aspx

Any word on when the bypass will be completed?

2027
I could've sworn it was 2070.

It will be at this rate. Drove through there Sunday and the pavement markings still aren't down on the western end. The first section was supposed to open in September. They're averaging one mile per year.
This was the part 226 west to Dixon?

cowboy_wilhelm

Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on November 06, 2019, 08:01:40 AM
Quote from: cowboy_wilhelm on November 06, 2019, 07:55:04 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on November 05, 2019, 08:57:45 PM
Quote from: cowboy_wilhelm on November 05, 2019, 07:23:07 PM
Quote from: Third Strike on November 05, 2019, 07:18:34 PM
Quote from: LM117 on November 05, 2019, 03:47:50 PM
A stretch of NC-180 will be closed this weekend due to bridge girder work on the US-74 Shelby Bypass.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2019/2019-11-05-shelby-bridge-work.aspx

Any word on when the bypass will be completed?

2027
I could've sworn it was 2070.

It will be at this rate. Drove through there Sunday and the pavement markings still aren't down on the western end. The first section was supposed to open in September. They're averaging one mile per year.
This was the part 226 west to Dixon?

Yes. The new overhead signs are up on existing 74/Dixon eastbound, but covered. It looked like the final layer of pavement was down, but no lane markings on that end. I wouldn't count on it opening before spring.

mvak36

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cowboy_wilhelm

Quote from: mvak36 on November 06, 2019, 08:59:17 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on November 05, 2019, 08:57:45 PM
Quote from: cowboy_wilhelm on November 05, 2019, 07:23:07 PM
Quote from: Third Strike on November 05, 2019, 07:18:34 PM
Quote from: LM117 on November 05, 2019, 03:47:50 PM
A stretch of NC-180 will be closed this weekend due to bridge girder work on the US-74 Shelby Bypass.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2019/2019-11-05-shelby-bridge-work.aspx

Any word on when the bypass will be completed?

2027
I could've sworn it was 2070.

https://connect.ncdot.gov/projects/Project-Management/Documents/Suspension%20Memo%20List%20-%20Revised%20(November%205,%202019)%20By%20County.pdf

It looks like Project R-2707D was in the list of suspended projects. So it looks like it might be a while.

Both sections were delayed from 2021 to 2024. What's odd is that section D was suspended and section E wasn't. Section E is for upgrading existing 74 to freeway east of the bypass and isn't necessary to complete the bypass. Section D is the missing link to complete the byapss and also ~$5 million less than Section E.

The whole project stinks of dirty politics.

LM117

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2019/2019-11-06-ocracoke-ferry-schedule-change-paving.aspx

Quote​OCRACOKE — To facilitate the N.C. Department of Transportation's paving operation on N.C. 12 on Ocracoke Island, the North Carolina Ferry System is making an adjustment to its Hatteras- Ocracoke Silver Lake schedule beginning Nov. 7.

Starting Nov. 7, the 10 p.m. departure from Hatteras to Ocracoke-Silver Lake and the 12:30 a.m. return trip will be suspended. The new schedule will be as follows:

-Hatteras to Ocracoke-Silver Lake: 6 a.m., 11:15 a.m., and 4:30 p.m.

-Ocracoke-Silver Lake to Hatteras: 8:45 a.m., 2:30 p.m., and 7:15 p.m.

The state Ferry Division is coordinating with Hyde County Schools to accommodate any evening athletic event travel.

No changes will be made to the Swan Quarter, Cedar Island, or Ocracoke-South Dock routes. The ferry schedule change will allow ferries and crews to be available for the staging of asphalt and concrete trucks used in the paving operation.

NCDOT is working to rebuild about 1,000 feet of N.C. 12 that was damaged during Hurricane Dorian in early September. NCDOT expects to reopen N.C. 12 to vehicular traffic on or before the Thanksgiving holiday. However, at this time Ocracoke remains open only to residents, non-resident property owners, and personnel approved by Hyde County Emergency Management.
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LM117

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sprjus4

Quote from: sprjus4 on November 05, 2019, 09:33:30 PM
Hopefully the nearby US-17 Pollocksville Bypass opens within the next couple of weeks as well, along with all 4-lanes of US-17 between Maysville and Pollocksville.
Speaking of the devil...

Signs Being Installed on New Jones County Bypass
QuotePOLLOCKSVILLE —  As work on a new Jones County bypass wraps up, crews will remove old signs and install new ones.

Between 7 a.m. Nov. 7 and 6 p.m. Nov. 8, the northbound lanes of the U.S. 17 Bypass will be closed from the intersection of U.S. 17, south of Rhems, to U.S. 70. The contractor will finish swapping out large overhead signage during the closure.

To get to U.S. 70 West from the U.S. 17 Business and U.S. 17 Bypass intersection, drivers should continue for about seven miles, cross under the U.S. 70 overpass, then turn left back onto U.S. 70 West.

Southbound traffic should take a left turn at the stoplight of U.S. 17 Business and the bypass and make a U-turn back towards New Bern.

​​​​​​​This construction is part of a 16.3-mile project which starts south of Belgrade and ties into the U.S. 17 bypass around New Bern. The project costs about $143.4 million and is expected to be complete later this month.

wdcrft63

Quote from: cowboy_wilhelm on November 06, 2019, 09:40:44 AM
Quote from: mvak36 on November 06, 2019, 08:59:17 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on November 05, 2019, 08:57:45 PM
Quote from: cowboy_wilhelm on November 05, 2019, 07:23:07 PM
Quote from: Third Strike on November 05, 2019, 07:18:34 PM
Quote from: LM117 on November 05, 2019, 03:47:50 PM
A stretch of NC-180 will be closed this weekend due to bridge girder work on the US-74 Shelby Bypass.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2019/2019-11-05-shelby-bridge-work.aspx

Any word on when the bypass will be completed?

2027
I could've sworn it was 2070.

https://connect.ncdot.gov/projects/Project-Management/Documents/Suspension%20Memo%20List%20-%20Revised%20(November%205,%202019)%20By%20County.pdf

It looks like Project R-2707D was in the list of suspended projects. So it looks like it might be a while.

Both sections were delayed from 2021 to 2024. What's odd is that section D was suspended and section E wasn't. Section E is for upgrading existing 74 to freeway east of the bypass and isn't necessary to complete the bypass. Section D is the missing link to complete the byapss and also ~$5 million less than Section E.

The whole project stinks of dirty politics.
It does. Think about it: Section E will help speed business into Shelby, while Section D will speed traffic away from Shelby.

ARMOURERERIC

That's the point:. The money interests did not want this project, and minds of started to change when the Walmart and their distribution center.  I suspect the part west of 226 will open before Black Friday or the facilitate access to the WM Warehouse.

D-Dey65


Finrod

Quote from: D-Dey65 on November 06, 2019, 10:48:51 PM
Ugh! Why?
https://www.i95exitguide.com/roadnews/confusing-i-95-exit-in-north-carolina-may-be-completely-rebuilt/

Oh good grief.  I'll admit that intersection is a bit confusing, but what they're wanting to do with it would be a roundabout nightmare.  That Travelers Inn would lose all front access, getting in and out of that BP would become a royal pain, that exit off roundabout A nearest to the A is to an obscure road that Google Streetview hasn't even bothered traversing, and through traffic from US 701 onto US 301 North would be going through all four roundabouts.  It makes me dizzy just thinking about it.

Just put 4-way intersections where they have the damned roundabouts and be done with it.

As an aside, Devil's Racetrack Road is a cool road name.
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