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Title: The original Tappan Zee Bridge and a steel shortage
Post by: ixnay on July 03, 2016, 09:44:25 PM
On another thread on the Northeast board it was mentioned that the original Tappan Zee Bridge was built during a steel shortage and that corners were cut to expedite construction.

Was it labor strikes that caused the steel shortage, or other factors?

ixnay
Title: Re: The original Tappan Zee Bridge and a steel shortage
Post by: Duke87 on July 03, 2016, 11:38:35 PM
Quote from: ixnay on July 03, 2016, 09:44:25 PM
Was it labor strikes that caused the steel shortage, or other factors?

It was this little thing called the Korean War. We were busy using steel to build bombs and such.
Title: Re: The original Tappan Zee Bridge and a steel shortage
Post by: ixnay on July 04, 2016, 07:28:40 AM
Quote from: Duke87 on July 03, 2016, 11:38:35 PM
Quote from: ixnay on July 03, 2016, 09:44:25 PM
Was it labor strikes that caused the steel shortage, or other factors?

It was this little thing called the Korean War. We were busy using steel to build bombs and such.

Thank you.

ixnay
Title: Re: The original Tappan Zee Bridge and a steel shortage
Post by: compdude787 on July 28, 2016, 05:27:32 PM
The bridge opened in 1955, right? Didn't the Korean war end in 1953?
Title: Re: The original Tappan Zee Bridge and a steel shortage
Post by: vdeane on July 28, 2016, 05:37:45 PM
Construction started in 1952.
Title: Re: The original Tappan Zee Bridge and a steel shortage
Post by: compdude787 on July 28, 2016, 05:40:47 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 28, 2016, 05:37:45 PM
Construction started in 1952.
Ah, okay. That's what I thought.
Title: Re: The original Tappan Zee Bridge and a steel shortage
Post by: SteveG1988 on July 29, 2016, 10:50:06 AM
It was built cheap.
Title: Re: The original Tappan Zee Bridge and a steel shortage
Post by: Jardine on July 29, 2016, 11:40:35 AM
The Highway 101 bridges from California brought to Iowa in the early 50s are another instance of the steel shortage affecting bridging.  When Harrison and Monona Counties needed to replace some bridges due to flooding, the recycled spans from the Buelton CA crossing of the Santa Inez were repurposed.  The 4 I'm aware of served longer in Iowa than they did in California, one of the 4 is still being utilized 4 miles west of Dunlap Iowa over Willow Creek.  Of the 4, the only one with a cement deck.  Had steel been cheap and plentiful I can't imagine the expense of dismantling, transporting and reassembling would have been worthwhile.

I did note at a recent visit that span now has a weight limit of up to 74,000 pounds now, depending on the # of axles.  Probably the first indication that bridge is not going to be a perennial feature in that bucolic setting.
Title: Re: The original Tappan Zee Bridge and a steel shortage
Post by: 8.Lug on July 29, 2016, 12:57:49 PM
Yes, it was built cheaply. Very cheaply. It was only built to last 50 years and that's why it's being replaced.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/17/nyregion/a-bridge-that-has-nowhere-left-to-go.html
Title: Re: The original Tappan Zee Bridge and a steel shortage
Post by: SteveG1988 on July 29, 2016, 01:41:28 PM
*insert bugo comment here* Any bridge can be saved, it's a waste *sademoji*