Starting this fall, a $708.9 million project will begin expanding I-95 from 4 to 8 lanes between Exit 56 (US-301 / I-95 Business) and Exit 81 (I-40). This segment of I-95 is one of the oldest in the state and would be reconstructed to modern standards. Six interchanges will be fully reconstructed, bridges will be replaced, and frontage roads would be realigned.
The project will
not include tolls on I-95 as previously proposed.
While most components of the project have not begun yet, the reconstruction of Exit 71 was started in February, and will be complete next year. It involves realigning the ramps, frontage roads, and replacing the overpass to accommodate 8 lanes underneath. 5 other interchanges along the corridor will see similar treatment over the next few years.
Project website: https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening/Pages/default.aspx
Project maps (Exit 56 to Exit 71): https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening/Pages/preliminary-design-section-a-maps.aspx
Project maps (Exit 71 to Exit 81): https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening/Pages/preliminary-design-section-b-maps.aspx
The current speed limit through the area is posted at 65 mph; it is unclear if NCDOT plans on increasing it to 70 mph though may well do so upon completion of the improvements. Similar projects, such as I-85 widening between China Grove and Lexington completed in 2014, and I-85 reconstruction between Henderson and Virginia completed in 2018 enabled their speed limits to be increased from 65 mph to 70 mph. The design speed of the project is 70 mph, which would indicate 65 mph, though NCDOT has posted 70 mph speed limits on projects with 70 mph design speeds such as the US-17 Pollocksville Bypass and NC-11 Greenville Southwest Bypass completed in 2019. With a modern 8 lane interstate highway in place, it would make logical sense to allow 70 mph.
S.T. Wooten Off to Good Start on I-95 Widening From Raleigh to Fayetteville (https://www.constructionequipmentguide.com/st-wooten-off-to-good-start-on-i-95-widening-from-raleigh-to-fayetteville/48147)
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The Feb. 9 closure of the Long Branch Road bridge (Exit 71) over Interstate 95, north of Fayetteville (Harnett County), marked the first stage of the North Carolina Department of Transportation's (NCDOT) $404 million project to widen 18 miles of the interstate under a design-build contract awarded to S.T. Wooten Corporation last July.
The existing two-lane bridge will be replaced with a taller and longer bridge that will have three lanes and wider paved shoulders. In addition, all four ramps will be realigned and elevated to match the higher bridge, and the ramps will be extended for drivers merging onto the highway. Service roads now connected to the ramps will be separated and tie directly to Long Branch Road to improve safety.
"The changes will enhance the safety of the interchange and create room to double the highway's travel lanes to eight," said Andrew Barksdale, NCDOT public relations officer. "The new bridge and upgraded interchange will open in about one year. Initially after the bridge closes, I-95 drivers will continue to be allowed to take the Exit 71 and turn right, but not left. Eventually, all of the ramps will be closed, requiring people to detour to Exit 70 instead.
"After a rebuilt Exit 71 is reopened, the Bud Hawkins Road bridge [Exit 70] will close for the same kind of reconstruction for about one year," Barksdale added. "In preparation of closing the Exit 71 bridge, crews in January added temporary pavement and concrete barriers to maintain four lanes on I-95 for the duration of construction."
There will be occasional overnight lane closures in the vicinity of exits 70 and 71 for the widening project over the next two years. The S.T. Wooten project covers I-95 between mile marker 56 in Eastover and Exit 71 in Dunn. The design and right-of-way acquisition for the rest of the route will be completed this year, allowing more construction to proceed by this fall. The entire project is expected to be completed by summer 2024.
NCDOT plans to award a construction contract in July to upgrade the interchanges and similarly widen I-95 from Exit 72 northward to Exit 81 at Interstate 40 in Johnston County, south of Raleigh. Construction on this portion is expected to begin this fall.
The estimated total cost to widen all 25 miles, from mile markers 56 to 81, is almost $710 million, and the overall widening is expected to be completed during 2024. Construction is estimated to cost $612,100,000; property acquisition $94,156,000; and utility relocation $2,700,000. The initiative is being partially funded with $147 million in federal funds from the Infrastructure for Rebuilding America program. Most of the project cost is coming from the NCDOT's highway trust fund.
The project will widen about 25 miles of I-95 to eight lanes between I-95 Business/U.S. 301 (Exit 56) in Cumberland County and I-40 (Exit 81) in Johnston County, including all of Harnett County. The work includes rebuilding at least six interchanges with new overpasses, loops and ramps. Service roads will be realigned or shifted to meet modern design standards. These interchanges include Pope Road (Exit 72), U.S. 421 (East Cumberland Street) (Exit 73) in Harnett County, Jonesboro Road (Exit 75) and Hodges Chapel Road (Exit 77). The bridge work covers the replacement of the overpass bridges between Baywood Road in Cumberland County and N.C. 50 (Exit 79), Black River in Cumberland County and U.S. 421 in Harnett County. A new overpass bridge also will be built at South Market Street and Cub Road in Benson.
The service roads are being realigned to allow for I-95 widening and to meet current design standards; roundabouts are being added at some interchanges to minimize impacts to nearby properties; and bicycle and/or pedestrian accommodations will be added to some overpass bridges.
"This is a massive improvement project, and one that is sorely needed," stated Grady Hunt, who represents the Fayetteville area for the N.C. Board of Transportation. "Modernizing the East Coast's main highway is an important, long-term goal for our state. This will be a significant investment in North Carolina."
This portion of I-95 has a high traffic volume, reaching nearly 60,000 vehicles a day in southern Johnston County.
"An important part of the local, regional, state and national transportation systems, I-95 serves commerce, residential populations, the tourism sector, the military, school systems and medical centers, among other institutions," Barksdale said. "The interstate is also part of North Carolina's hurricane evacuation route system. According to the I-95 Planning and Finance Study Environmental Assessment (2012), congestion will increase, and drivers will experience traffic jams if the highway is not widened. The project will ease congestion and accommodate future growth in traffic volumes, ensuring that I-95 remains a vital part of North Carolina's transportation system."
This project also will bring this stretch of I-95 up to modern standards and requirements, ease traffic for trucks coming through the area and create safer conditions for all road users. This stretch of I-95, the first portion of the interstate in North Carolina, was built in the late 1950s as a four-lane, median-divided highway. NCDOT began planning for the widening in Fall 2017 and public hearings were held in October 2018.
Commenting on the existing road structure, Barksdale noted: "We are keeping up the road maintenance, and we have resurfaced this portion of I-95 just a few years ago. However, the four travel lanes [combined in both directions] is woefully inadequate for the traffic using it, and the bridges do not meet our current design standards for highways. They are too low and sometimes get struck by oversized vehicles. Because of the traffic congestion, we have high crash rates along this portion of I-95. The widening and overall upgrade of the interstate will lessen the risk of crashes, ease congestion and improve traffic flow."
The biggest design and engineering challenge is the traffic.
"There is a lot of it — 60,000 vehicles a day, and it comes at all times of the day and night," Barksdale said. "We can't reduce lanes in the daytime, as that would cause major backups. This is why we will use the Smart Zone along this 15-mile stretch. For any road we build, we like for it to last eight to 10 years before it needs to be resurfaced. With heavy-volume roads, like an interstate, we use a certain kind of asphalt mix and thickness to hold up eight to 10 years. As for bridges, typically, they can go 40 years before they need any kind of major maintenance or preservation work; and of course, they will last a lot longer than 40 years before we have to replace them.
"This is a design-build contract, so the contractor is finishing the design and will oversee the construction. Typically, these phases (design and construction) are separated, increasing chances of incompatibilities and cost overruns. But a design-build contract ensures engineering and construction teams are aligned on day one, resulting in savings, design innovation and faster delivery."
S.T. Wooten started the project in late 2019, with the first phase wrapping up around springtime and the other phase following. After that, S.T. Wooten crews will transition to construction on the remaining 15 miles, which will be broken up into four phases. Traffic will be pushed to middle lanes in the early phases of the project and then to outside lanes during the final phases of the project.
Traffic is expected to be one of the biggest challenges for workers. It's a little bit different than some other road paving projects because traffic is consistent throughout the day and not just during times where lots of people are commuting to work.
"There will be a lot of large trucks coming through and they can create a good amount of noise and wind in the work zone, so our crews will need to be on extra-high alert during construction," said Ronald Brock, S.T. Wooten's project manager. "And as with any construction project, we'll want to have our resources in place and ready each day so we can get in and out of the way quickly — keep things opened up as much as possible for drivers. Strategically, staying on schedule will take close communication between project managers and crews.
"Eighteen miles is a lot to cover, and four and half years will go by quickly," Brock added. "The ability to troubleshoot if challenges like storms or bad weather pop up will help us stay on track. The project itself will pick up this summer once we get started with the second stretch and it will remain pretty steady throughout the duration of construction. While paving takes place during warmer months, we'll be planning and working on some of the other activities as things progress throughout the year."
Regarding traffic control, Brock noted that this project is taking place inside a designated Smart Work Zone. Sensors and message boards have been placed throughout the area to detect potential travel delays and alert drives of alternate routes if needed. Details on traffic issues and conditions also are routed to the NCDOT's Statewide Transportation Operations Center where it can be shared with the public.
The Smart Work Zone (SMZ) is only around exits 70 and 71, but will be fully implemented by mid-summer when the rest of this section of I-95 is under construction. The SMZ includes digital speed limit signs; additional cameras to monitor traffic; message signs warning motorists as they approach the work zone whether or not traffic is moving normally or stopped. The SMZ also will include alternate I-95 routes, such as U.S. 301, which runs parallel to the interstate, for people to use if there is a big crash that closes I-95 for several hours.
Work on the Long Branch Road bridge is proceeding well. According to Brock, the old bridge has been taken down, and one of the end bents and the center bent has been excavated.
"The center bent is now ready to be formed and poured," he said. "We had some issues with the weather, with more rain than usual and having to work at night on the center bent due to median being so narrow."
The road widening operations are at an early stage with the paved shoulder already milled out and work is beginning on excavating the new lanes to grade. Brock is assisted by Thomas Bowers, assistant project manager; Adam Corey, project engineer; Lane Hussey, project engineer; and the S.T. Wooten design team.
"We have great communication and clear and defined role responsibilities, which makes for a great team," Brock stated. "We also have great crews that take a lot of pride in their work and that makes for a strong workforce."
S.T. Wooten expects to have several hundred construction workers on-site during peak periods, including those from the 20-plus subcontractors such as Stay Alert for traffic control; Bullington for guardrail; Central Carolinas Seeding for erosion control items; Sawyers for land clearing; Curtin for barrier wall; Delta for asphalt milling; and Clark Pavement Markings for striping.
"We recently forecasted 250 workers for a road construction project currently happening on I-40 in Raleigh," Brock said. "The I-95 project is slightly bigger in scope than that one."
Crews expect to remove 770,344 cu. yds. of earth, pour 50,000 cu. yds. of concrete, pave 1,414,714 tons of asphalt and 62,390 LF of storm drainage. Equipment-wise, S.T. Wooten crews are using 110-ton Link Belt cranes; Cat and John Deere excavators; Cat D6Ns and D5Ks and John Deere 700s dozers; various Cat pavers and rollers. S.T. Wooten purchases and rents equipment from a variety of local and regional dealerships. CEG
In November 2019, a $22.5 million BUILD grant was awarded for another project along I-95 which would widen 27 miles of the highway between Exit 13 (I-74) and Exit 40 (US-301 / I-95 Business) from 4 to 8 lanes and raise the road in low-lying areas to make them less susceptible to flooding, notably a segment near Lumberton which was underwater during Hurricane Florence in 2018.
A portion of this project, a $448 million 19 mile segment between Exit 22 (US-301) and Exit 40, is scheduled to begin in 2028, though may be accelerated partially due to the grant and if more funding is enabled going forth. There's currently no timeline for the portion between Exit 13 and Exit 22.
Project Website & Maps (Exit 22 to Exit 40): https://publicinput.com/I-95-Widening
If completed, 52 miles of the 182 mile highway will have been doubled in capacity from 4 to 8 lanes without the use of tolling, again as previously proposed. The obvious gap in these two segments would be the Fayetteville Bypass, which is proposed to eventually be expanded to 8 lanes, though there are currently no active plans or funding identified. The rest of the corridor in the state outside these two projects and the Fayetteville Bypass would conceptually be widened to 6 lanes, though again, are currently unfunded and not actively being planned.
Funds expected to speed up I-95 widening south of Fayetteville (https://www.fayobserver.com/news/20191108/funds-expected-to-speed-up-i-95-widening-south-of-fayetteville)
QuoteWidening and improvements to a 27-mile stretch of Interstate 95 in Robeson and Cumberland counties are being sped up due to a grant.
The N.C. Department of Transportation plans to accelerate the improvements because of a $22.5 million federal grant awarded this week.
It is the second major federal grant the NCDOT has received since the summer of 2018 to help fund major improvements along I-95 corridor.
The U.S. Department of Transportation awarded the grant through its "Better Utilizing Investments to Leverage Development," or BUILD, program, which helps states and cities build and repair critical pieces of the transportation network.
The BUILD grant will improve mobility, safety and the resiliency of a section of I-95 that has been plagued by flooding in recent hurricanes. It will help fund the widening of the interstate between mile markers 13 and 40 – a 27-mile segment stretching from Lumberton to near Hope Mills.
Work on this section was anticipated to begin in 2028, but it now may be moved up by a couple of years as the result of the grant award, said DOT spokesman Andrew Barksdale. He said they don't know yet exactly how much the grant will speed up the work.
"We should know by January," he said.
In addition to the widening, the NCDOT will raise portions of I-95 in several low-lying areas between mile markers 13 and 40 that are vulnerable to floods; build higher bridges over the Lumber River; and install state-of-the-art flood monitoring technology to better monitor hurricane evacuation routes.
"These grants are highly competitive, and they will help us modernize Interstate 95 in North Carolina," said Grady Hunt, the N.C. Board of Transportation's representative from Robeson County in a press release. "This is a vital route in our state, and many consider I-95 to be the Main Street of the East Coast."
Twice in the last three years, sections of I-95, including in Lumberton, were closed for several days after major hurricanes passed over North Carolina. The BUILD grant will allow the board to revise the STIP schedule and begin construction sooner on this section of I-95
"We know from experience with recent Hurricanes Matthew and Florence that we have to make our highways and other transportation infrastructure more resilient and less susceptible to major flooding in the future," said Greg Burns, the division engineer who oversees NCDOT work in Bladen, Columbus, Cumberland, Harnett and Robeson counties.
The earlier grant received for I-95 improvements came in June 2018 when a $147 million Infrastructure for Rebuilding America (INFRA) grant was awarded for I-95 and U.S. 70 improvements. The INFRA grant was earmarked for widening two sections of I-95 north of Fayetteville to eight lanes, improving six interchanges, and upgrading sections of U.S. 70 to future Interstate 42 in eastern North Carolina. The grant also will pay for the installation of 300 miles of fiber optic cable along both highways to expand access to broadband and telecommunication access.
At some point in the past few months, the southern I-95 segment (Exit 22 to Exit 40) was accelerated from 2028 up to being let in December 2020, however due to the impact of COVID-19 on transportation projects, both segments of I-95 widening (Exit 22 to Exit 40 and Exit 56 to Exit 81), have been deleted from July and December 2020 lettings with no potential date as to when they make be delayed to.
Both projects combined would have cost $1.2 billion (about $27.2 million per mile) and widened 44 miles from 4 to 8 lanes by 2024.
Edit:NCDOT delays two projects in Robeson County because of budget shortfall caused by COVID-19 (https://www.robesonian.com/news/133877/ncdot-delays-two-projects-in-robeson-county-because-of-budget-shortfall-caused-by-covid-19)
QuoteLUMBERTON – Two projects in Robeson County have been delayed by the North Carolina Department of Transportation because of the impact of COVID-19 on transportation and revenue.
The NCDOT is anticipating a shortfall of at least $300 million in its budget for the current fiscal year, which ends June 30, because people across the state have adhered to Gov. Roy Cooper's stay-at-home order to help stop the spread of the coronavirus, according to the Transportation Department.
The reduced budget has caused the department to adjust its spending priorities and project time lines, said Andrew Barksdale, NCDOT public information officer.
"Additionally, we were planning to start the construction of a roundabout sometime later this year at U.S. 301 and Parkton Tobermory Road," Barksdale said. "It's now going to be fall 2022."
The start of the Interstate 95 widening project also will be delayed by about six months, Barksdale said.
"That first section was to upgrade and widen I-95 from mile marker 22, north of Carthage Road, to mile marker 40," Barksdale said. "Before COVID-19 and the stay-at-home order, we were planning to award a design-build contract for that segment in December 2020."
After the design was completed, construction would begin about a year later as stated in the contract, he said.
"It's now going to be June 2021 when we award a design-build project for the segment from mile marker 22 to 40," Barksdale said.
More delays on county projects are to be expected because of budget impacts, he said.
An interchange upgrade on Carthage Road, which is part of the segment to widen and upgrade I-95 from mile markers 13 to 22, could be delayed, he said. The contract is scheduled to be awarded in 2021, but will likely be changed to a later date.
Before the virus, NCDOT also planned to begin construction of a roundabout at N.C. 710 and Deep Branch Road in the summer of 2021, Barksdale said. A delay in the project is anticipated, and the new contract date has not been set.
Because the Transportation Department revenue relies on the Motor Fuels Tax, Highway Use Tax and DMV fees, the significant budget impact has forced the department to notify local governments, stakeholders and the general public that all but about 50 major projects scheduled to start in the next 12 months are delayed, according to the NCDOT.
Projects moving forward are funded by Grant Anticipation Revenue Vehicles bonds, BUILD N.C. bonds and federal grants.
Projects scheduled to be awarded in the next year can be viewed on the NCDOT website.
Construction projects already awarded or underway will not be affected by changes.
The Transportation Department also is taking other steps to decrease expenditures, including:
– Allowing only mission critical purchases.
– Laying off temporary and embedded consultants.
– Suspending or decreasing many programs and services.
– A hiring freeze, except for positions that affect public safety.
The department also is in the process of developing plans for potential furloughs and a reduction in force, according to the Transportation Department. Plans are not yet complete and no decision has been made to enact them.
The southern segment of I-95 widening (Exit 22 to Exit 40) will only be delayed until June 2021, a 6 month delay. This may well be the case with the northern project as well, meaning completion around 2024 - 2025 will still be likely.
YES LORD! :clap: :clap: :popcorn: I grew up having to ride down that wack cattle chute, first to visit family in Florida, then to visit my uncle stationed at Ft. Bragg...and when I ended up at nearby Pope AFB, got to know it way too well going home to Philly.
It will be glorious! Glorious!
An additional 9 mile segment has been funded for construction beginning in 2021, stretching from US-301 (Exit 22) to I-74 (Exit 13).
Like the previous projects, this will widen the interstate from 4 to 8 lanes and raise the roadway where necessary in flood-prone areas, notably south of US-301 which was underwater during Hurricane Florence.
A public meeting for the $295 million project is currently scheduled for Fall 2020, environmental documentation by Winter 2020, and right of way / construction occurring by Summer 2021.
Split across three separate projects - Exit 81 to 56, Exit 40 to Exit 22, Exit 22 to Exit 13 - 52 miles of I-95 (nearly 30% of the corridor) will be widened and modernized from 4 to 8 lanes by 2025, an investment of nearly $1.5 billion. No tolls will be implemented on I-95.
Project Website: https://poll.cityzenapp.us/8812/
May 2020 Newsletter: https://publicinput.com/Customer/File/Full/658763c5-d042-47d6-90b1-159cd68271ff
Regarding the first project, Exit 56 to Exit 81, NCDOT has released revised interchange designs for Exit 61, 65, 55, and 58.
(https://poll.cityzenapp.us/img/cn9ov8jwd4dxk0gsztfq_1600_1008.JPG)
(https://poll.cityzenapp.us/img/yxotnaohl0i1nasaushk_1600_1035.JPG)
https://poll.cityzenapp.us/7963/
Is this also going to mean the end of overheight vehicle detours?
I'd still like to see the design for Lumberton. Whatever it's going to be and whenever they work on it, I have a feeling that I'm either going to have to save up some extra money for Auto Train or take a detour to I-75 and I-85 when that happens.
Dunn is going to consolidate the US 421 and Pope Road interchanges into one big interchange I saw and posted here before.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 30, 2020, 08:14:30 AM
Is this also going to mean the end of overheight vehicle detours?
I'd still like to see the design for Lumberton. Whatever it's going to be and whenever they work on it, I have a feeling that I'm either going to have to save up some extra money for Auto Train or take a detour to I-75 and I-85 when that happens.
If you're willing to travel in coach class, the main expense on the Auto Train is just the cost of transporting your car. The passenger fare in coach is usually less than $100 each way, but the separate ticket for your car is typically $200 to $250. (Dinner is no longer included in the coach class fare, but you could bring a small cooler or picnic basket with your own food if you don't want to buy something from the cafe car.)
Quote from: roadman65 on June 11, 2020, 09:00:19 AM
Dunn is going to consolidate the US 421 and Pope Road interchanges into one big interchange I saw and posted here before.
That's very badly needed, those exits are way too close together.
Quote from: DeaconG on June 11, 2020, 02:12:31 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 11, 2020, 09:00:19 AM
Dunn is going to consolidate the US 421 and Pope Road interchanges into one big interchange I saw and posted here before.
That's very badly needed, those exits are way too close together.
I agree. I don't know if I would've automatically gone with a split diamond, but it still beats what they've got now.
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 11, 2020, 09:37:20 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 30, 2020, 08:14:30 AM
Is this also going to mean the end of overheight vehicle detours?
I'd still like to see the design for Lumberton. Whatever it's going to be and whenever they work on it, I have a feeling that I'm either going to have to save up some extra money for Auto Train or take a detour to I-75 and I-85 when that happens.
If you're willing to travel in coach class, the main expense on the Auto Train is just the cost of transporting your car. The passenger fare in coach is usually less than $100 each way, but the separate ticket for your car is typically $200 to $250. (Dinner is no longer included in the coach class fare, but you could bring a small cooler or picnic basket with your own food if you don't want to buy something from the cafe car.)
Yeah, I'm not going coach on Amtrak anymore unless it's a short trip.
Quote from: roadman65 on June 11, 2020, 09:00:19 AM
Dunn is going to consolidate the US 421 and Pope Road interchanges into one big interchange I saw and posted here before.
How about they do braided ramps instead this is to avoid confusion and keep going of when you need to exit.
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 12, 2020, 07:40:49 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 11, 2020, 09:00:19 AM
Dunn is going to consolidate the US 421 and Pope Road interchanges into one big interchange I saw and posted here before.
How about they do braided ramps instead this is to avoid confusion and keep going of when you need to exit.
Not sure if there's enough traffic demand to warrant the higher cost of braided ramps... In a more urban area, surely would be more warranted. Perhaps a C/D road?
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 12, 2020, 07:44:46 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 12, 2020, 07:40:49 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 11, 2020, 09:00:19 AM
Dunn is going to consolidate the US 421 and Pope Road interchanges into one big interchange I saw and posted here before.
How about they do braided ramps instead this is to avoid confusion and keep going of when you need to exit.
Perhaps a C/D road?
That'll work too. Imo, I'm not a big fan of the interchange type they used on the Durham freeway (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8734785,-78.8689552,1897m/data=!3m1!1e3).
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 12, 2020, 07:44:46 PM
Perhaps a C/D road?
That's pretty close to what I'm thinking. Install C/D roads at Pope Road with additional ramps to and from Pope Road, and have the C/D roads lead to US 421, since that's really the priority crossroad. In the meantime, get the northbound on-ramp from Pope Road to bypass the northbound C/D road and lead directly onto I-95.
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening-south/Documents/preliminary-design-map-3.pdf
why does interchange design look so curvy? Does anyone like it or should have they retained the old one?
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 15, 2020, 01:55:47 AM
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening-south/Documents/preliminary-design-map-3.pdf
why does interchange design look so curvy? Does anyone like it or should have they retained the old one?
Modern design these days. The curves are to slow you down to approach the interchange and the roundabouts. The ramps are significantly longer and wider than the old configuration, to handle higher speeds on the interstate safely.
Based on the design speed of 75 mph, the current speed limit of 65 mph will most likely be raised to 70 mph.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 15, 2020, 12:27:05 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 12, 2020, 07:44:46 PM
Perhaps a C/D road?
That's pretty close to what I'm thinking. Install C/D roads at Pope Road with additional ramps to and from Pope Road, and have the C/D roads lead to US 421, since that's really the priority crossroad. In the meantime, get the northbound on-ramp from Pope Road to bypass the northbound C/D road and lead directly onto I-95.
Like this, right?
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i40-nc42/Documents/i-4739-public-meeting-map-100217.pdf
And I was thinking this could do better
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 15, 2020, 02:07:13 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 15, 2020, 01:55:47 AM
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening-south/Documents/preliminary-design-map-3.pdf
why does interchange design look so curvy? Does anyone like it or should have they retained the old one?
Modern design these days. The curves are to slow you down to approach the interchange and the roundabouts. The ramps are significantly longer and wider than the old configuration, to handle higher speeds on the interstate safely.
Based on the design speed of 75 mph, the current speed limit of 65 mph will most likely be raised to 70 mph.
Oh I see what they did there. Definitely not useful for US highways or expressways.
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 15, 2020, 02:41:11 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 15, 2020, 12:27:05 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 12, 2020, 07:44:46 PM
Perhaps a C/D road?
That's pretty close to what I'm thinking. Install C/D roads at Pope Road with additional ramps to and from Pope Road, and have the C/D roads lead to US 421, since that's really the priority crossroad. In the meantime, get the northbound on-ramp from Pope Road to bypass the northbound C/D road and lead directly onto I-95.
Like this, right?
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i40-nc42/Documents/i-4739-public-meeting-map-100217.pdf
And I was thinking this could do better
No, not really.
More like this, but not as badly done on a computer.
https://imgur.com/a/GC1Hfoc (https://imgur.com/a/GC1Hfoc)
Do the two northern ramps of Exit 72 really need to exist? Seems like most of the traffic here could either use Exit 71 or 73. I would get rid of them and build a connector to NC-55.
Quote from: Thing 342 on June 15, 2020, 08:17:15 PM
Do the two northern ramps of Exit 72 really need to exist? Seems like most of the traffic here could either use Exit 71 or 73. I would get rid of them and build a connector to NC-55.
To be honest, I'm not entirely sure. But it seems to me like the traffic within Dunn could use local streets to get to US 421 and NC 55, which was why I suggested the northbound ramp lead directly to I-95. Also, Long Branch Road (Exit 71) actually ends at Pope Road (Exit 72), but that connection is a little further away from "Downtown" Dunn.
FYI, the original version of Exit 73 actually had a separate connector to NC 55.
https://historicaerials.com/?layer=map&zoom=12&lat=35.310278&lon=-78.610833
https://www.nc-eminent-domain.com/latest-projects/4012-2/
Quote from: roadman65 on June 15, 2020, 11:58:47 PM
https://www.nc-eminent-domain.com/latest-projects/4012-2/
I'm in a chat with them right now.
A project website has been created with more information regarding the third phase of I-95 widening, which will cover MM 13 - 22 near Lumberton. Two other phases that will widen MM 22 - 40 and MM 55 - 81 from 4 to 8 lanes are also set to be constructed in the next 5 years. The project will widen the interstate from 4 to 8 lanes, replace mainline bridges, reconfigure interchanges, and raise the roadway to help control future flooding. The US-301 that was reconstructed into a DDI in the past decade will be retained, along with the I-74 interchange at the southern end of the project limits. As many know, this segment was underwater during Hurricane Florence a couple years back. Construction on the $459.8 million project will begin by 2022 and be complete by 2026. A virtual public meeting is planned for September 29, 2020.
The design speed for the project, similar to the other two projects, is 75 mph which indicates that the speed limit will likely be increased from 65 mph to 70 mph upon completion.
At the completion of this project, approximately 53 miles of I-95 in North Carolina will have been widened from 4 to 8 lanes.
Project Website: https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening-lumberton/Pages/default.aspx
Detailed Maps: https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening-lumberton/Pages/project-maps.aspx
NCDOT Seeks Comments on Widening I-95 in Robeson County (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2020/2020-09-21-virtual-meeting-i-95-widening.aspx)
QuoteLUMBERTON — The N.C. Department of Transportation would like public feedback on plans underway to widen and upgrade a nearly nine-mile section of Interstate 95 in Robeson County.
The department is proposing to increase the number of travel lanes to four in each direction from Exit 13 to just south of Exit 22 within Lumberton. As part of the proposal, three interchanges (Exits 17, 19 and 20) and the bridges that cross the Lumber River and CSX rail line/VFW Road would be replaced, among other improvements.
Because of the COVID-19 outbreak, the NCDOT will host a live virtual meeting from 6 to 7 p.m. on Sept. 29. People may sign up for the virtual meeting by going to ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening-lumberton (http://ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening-lumberton), where they will find a registration link (https://register.gotowebinar.com/register/2685108959300484880). After registering, they will receive a confirmation email with a weblink to join the meeting.
A presentation of what the improvements would look like will be given during the virtual meeting. The audience will be allowed to submit questions via a chat box or by email. This video provides an overview of the project (https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening-lumberton/Pages/photos-videos.aspx) and a computer visualization of the preliminary design.
Alternatively, people may use their telephones to listen during the virtual meeting. To do so, dial 213-929-4212 and enter access code 798-712-385. People may also contact the project team through a toll-free hotline at 855-925-2801 and enter project code 8812. Materials can be mailed to people who are not able to participate in the virtual meeting; simply call the hotline number.
People can find the videos and other project information, as well as submit questions or comments, on the project webpage (https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening-lumberton/Pages/default.aspx). Comments received by Oct. 15 will be considered toward the final design.
The project has an estimated $418 million construction cost, and the department is scheduled to award a design-build contract next summer. A design-build bid is an alternative way to construct a project and help complete it more quickly.
Minor update.
https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2020/2020-12-15-i-95-widening-gets-technology.aspx (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2020/2020-12-15-i-95-widening-gets-technology.aspx)
Drove the entire length of I-95 through North Carolina today.
All of I-95 between Exit 56 (US-301) and Exit 81 (I-40) is fully under construction with a maintained work zone speed limit of 65 mph. The shoulders are mainly non-existent with jersey barriers and shifted lanes lining the corridor. At the northern I-295 interchange, it appears clearing has also begun for the new I-95 North to I-295 South flyover.
No work has begun south of Fayetteville, except the ongoing interchange connection with I-295 which is a separate project altogether.
Quote from: sprjus4 on April 05, 2021, 01:07:25 AM
Drove the entire length of I-95 through North Carolina today.
All of I-95 between Exit 56 (US-301) and Exit 81 (I-40) is fully under construction with a maintained work zone speed limit of 65 mph. The shoulders are mainly non-existent with jersey barriers and shifted lanes lining the corridor. At the northern I-295 interchange, it appears clearing has also begun for the new I-95 North to I-295 South flyover.
No work has begun south of Fayetteville, except the ongoing interchange connection with I-295 which is a separate project altogether.
You mean I95 on Exit 73 has already started? That was quick, as I have not heard any word about DB contracts being awarded.
NCDOT announces bridge closure as part of I-95 widening project:
https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2021/2021-04-06-cumberland-county-bridge-i-95.aspx
The press release indicated work to continue the widening up to I-40 will begin this summer.
I seem to recall work happening on the entire segment, though that also may be my memory not fully clear on where work began - I wasn't paying much attention to the specific exits and where construction began while driving. There was definitely work south of Exit 71, where the press release indicates is under construction. I'll try to remember to pay more attention driving through again this weekend.
Quote from: sprjus4 on April 05, 2021, 01:07:25 AM
Drove the entire length of I-95 through North Carolina today.
All of I-95 between Exit 56 (US-301) and Exit 81 (I-40) is fully under construction with a maintained work zone speed limit of 65 mph. The shoulders are mainly non-existent with jersey barriers and shifted lanes lining the corridor. At the northern I-295 interchange, it appears clearing has also begun for the new I-95 North to I-295 South flyover.
No work has begun south of Fayetteville, except the ongoing interchange connection with I-295 which is a separate project altogether.
How disruptive was the work? If I drive south on there, say, the Wednesday before Memorial Day, am I setting myself up for delays that might make an alternate route better?
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 07, 2021, 09:17:40 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on April 05, 2021, 01:07:25 AM
Drove the entire length of I-95 through North Carolina today.
All of I-95 between Exit 56 (US-301) and Exit 81 (I-40) is fully under construction with a maintained work zone speed limit of 65 mph. The shoulders are mainly non-existent with jersey barriers and shifted lanes lining the corridor. At the northern I-295 interchange, it appears clearing has also begun for the new I-95 North to I-295 South flyover.
No work has begun south of Fayetteville, except the ongoing interchange connection with I-295 which is a separate project altogether.
How disruptive was the work? If I drive south on there, say, the Wednesday before Memorial Day, am I setting myself up for delays that might make an alternate route better?
When I drove through on Sunday southbound, there was no delay. Traffic was easily moving at 80+ mph the whole way through the work zone, and pretty much through the entire state. Both lanes were open, there's no permanent lane closures as of now like how I-85 was near Henderson a few years ago.
Quote from: sprjus4 on April 07, 2021, 09:26:14 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 07, 2021, 09:17:40 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on April 05, 2021, 01:07:25 AM
Drove the entire length of I-95 through North Carolina today.
All of I-95 between Exit 56 (US-301) and Exit 81 (I-40) is fully under construction with a maintained work zone speed limit of 65 mph. The shoulders are mainly non-existent with jersey barriers and shifted lanes lining the corridor. At the northern I-295 interchange, it appears clearing has also begun for the new I-95 North to I-295 South flyover.
No work has begun south of Fayetteville, except the ongoing interchange connection with I-295 which is a separate project altogether.
How disruptive was the work? If I drive south on there, say, the Wednesday before Memorial Day, am I setting myself up for delays that might make an alternate route better?
When I drove through on Sunday southbound, there was no delay. Traffic was easily moving at 80+ mph the whole way through the work zone, and pretty much through the entire state. Both lanes were open, there's no permanent lane closures as of now like how I-85 was near Henderson a few years ago.
Thanks. As much as I've gotten bored with I-95 over the years, I'm leaning towards taking that route this time simply because it's the most direct. We haven't visited our relatives since 2018, so we want to maximize the time we have to see them.
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I'll 2nd sprjus4's statement. I last drove I-95 thru NC on New Year's Day; construction was well underway between exits 58 & 71 at the time but no delays (aside from the usual truck platooning & micro-passing, but that's business as usual for all of I-95 thru the Carolinas :-D).
The south side needs to be upgraded badly. The northern half (North of US-264) is not as bad. I don't see the highway being widened for another >10 years. Maybe redesign the interchange at US-64 though.
The only part of I-95 I get on is north of US-64.
Quote from: tolbs17 on April 07, 2021, 11:15:17 AM
The south side needs to be upgraded badly. The northern half (North of US-264) is not as bad. I don't see the highway being widened for another >10 years. Maybe redesign the interchange at US-64 though.
The only part of I-95 I get on is north of US-64.
If you were driving from the DC area to Florida, what route would you use through North Carolina?
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 07, 2021, 11:18:18 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on April 07, 2021, 11:15:17 AM
The south side needs to be upgraded badly. The northern half (North of US-264) is not as bad. I don't see the highway being widened for another >10 years. Maybe redesign the interchange at US-64 though.
The only part of I-95 I get on is north of US-64.
If you were driving from the DC area to Florida, what route would you use through North Carolina?
Obviously, I-95. But I have no desire to go to Florida anytime soon.
Quote from: tolbs17 on April 07, 2021, 11:21:37 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 07, 2021, 11:18:18 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on April 07, 2021, 11:15:17 AM
The south side needs to be upgraded badly. The northern half (North of US-264) is not as bad. I don't see the highway being widened for another >10 years. Maybe redesign the interchange at US-64 though.
The only part of I-95 I get on is north of US-64.
If you were driving from the DC area to Florida, what route would you use through North Carolina?
Obviously, I-95. But I have no desire to go to Florida anytime soon.
But I do, which is why I asked the question! I construed your comment in reply #36 as expressing a general problem with I-95 that might prompt you to take another route (which, to be sure, I've done multiple times–US-29 to Greensboro and then south thru Rockingham, or US-29 -> I-85 -> I-77–but both of those add significant travel time).
Another route I've desired taking for a change is US-17 from Norfolk to Yemassee but it adds at least a couple hours to the usual US-58 -> I-95 route. I don't go that far south often, and usually I never have time to go that way. I've used US-17 before driving from Norfolk to Wilmington, but not any further south. It would be interesting driving through the Myrtle Beach area (though probably simply via the Carolina Bays Pkwy) and Charleston and just the route in general through South Carolina. The obvious problem is the lower speeds and the lack of at least a continuous expressway (free-flow) design in many areas. The speed limits are also usually only 55 mph or 60 mph in rural areas (along with the occasional but brief 70 mph bypass here and there), though traffic commonly seemed to move 70+ mph at least on that Wilmington trip.
Perhaps one day with some extra time to spare, I'll get around to going that way for a change. I-95 is boring, but it's certainly much faster (even with North Carolina's reluctance for any higher than 65 mph in most areas south of Kenly - traffic still goes 80+ mph).
Quote from: sprjus4 on April 07, 2021, 12:23:42 PM
Another route I've desired taking for a change is US-17 from Norfolk to Yemassee but it adds at least a couple hours to the usual US-58 -> I-95 route. I don't go that far south often, and usually I never have time to go that way. I've used US-17 before driving from Norfolk to Wilmington, but not any further south. It would be interesting driving through the Myrtle Beach area (though probably simply via the Carolina Bays Pkwy) and Charleston and just the route in general through South Carolina. The obvious problem is the lower speeds and the lack of at least a continuous expressway (free-flow) design in many areas. The speed limits are also usually only 55 mph or 60 mph in rural areas (along with the occasional but brief 70 mph bypass here and there), though traffic commonly seemed to move 70+ mph at least on that Wilmington trip.
Perhaps one day with some extra time to spare, I'll get around to going that way for a change. I-95 is boring, but it's certainly much faster (even with North Carolina's reluctance for any higher than 65 mph in most areas south of Kenly - traffic still goes 80+ mph).
A few years ago, I forget which year but I do recall it was Christmastime, I decided to take I-795 down to I-40 to Wilmington, then take US-17 (and SC-31) down the coast back to I-95 at Yemassee. It added about two hours versus just staying on I-95 the whole way and the commentary from the passenger seat began getting quite....shall we say, tart....somewhere between Charleston and Yemassee. The portion of the drive in the Myrtle Beach area was rather slow. The portion south of Charleston was a good road–the widening project was finished and it was four lanes, in excellent shape, and moved right along, though it was
extremely dark and that made me somewhat concerned about deer or other wildlife running out into the road. The added time via that route was enough that we wound up maybe 120 miles north of our usual overnight stop–if we take I-95 the whole way, we'll make it to the JAX Airport exit and stop for the night there (roughly 690 miles), but the added two hours meant we wound up stopping in Port Wentworth, Georgia, instead.
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 07, 2021, 11:18:18 AM
If you were driving from the DC area to Florida, what route would you use through North Carolina?
Quote from: tolbs17 on April 07, 2021, 11:21:37 AM
Obviously, I-95. But I have no desire to go to Florida anytime soon.
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 07, 2021, 11:28:43 AM
But I do, which is why I asked the question! I construed your comment in reply #36 as expressing a general problem with I-95 that might prompt you to take another route (which, to be sure, I've done multiple times–US-29 to Greensboro and then south thru Rockingham, or US-29 -> I-85 -> I-77–but both of those add significant travel time).
But it does depend on when you are leaving Northern Virginia. On Friday afternoon, I almost always chose US-29 as the best way south (even if I was only going to Fredericksburg). It's only about 90 minutes longer on the route through Charlotte, but you can bet that you will lose two hours on I-95 between the Beltway and Fredericksburg, and get hit with three or more delays of over 30 minutes between Richmond and the Florida border. You'll lose an hour between the Beltway and Manassas/Gainesville, and probably another 30 minutes in Charlotteville, and then free sail most of the rest of the way.
If you want to do the Roadgeek thing and try something different, I've been thinking about US-421 between Greensboro and Fayetteville. It looks like it will take 2 hours longer than I-95 free flow, but it has been upgraded significantly over the last 20 years. Once the southern part of I-295 around Fayetteville is complete, I think that route will become more attractive as an alternative to fighting I-95 traffic.
I'm going thru the area tomorrow if anyone has something to look out for. Construction zones are mostly closed shoulders and the occasional lane shift from what I saw in the dark heading south last month.
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 07, 2021, 12:37:53 PM
A few years ago, I forget which year but I do recall it was Christmastime, I decided to take I-795 down to I-40 to Wilmington, then take US-17 (and SC-31) down the coast back to I-95 at Yemassee. It added about two hours versus just staying on I-95 the whole way...
During a trip that began in OBX & ended in Charleston, I decided to take US 17 the whole way down versus heading further inland on US 64 to I-95 (fewer miles this way, but an hour longer). I stuck with US 17 itself the entire distance from US 64 to Charleston except in Wilmington (I-140) and Myrtle (Hickman Road, SC 9, SC 31, SC 707). It was a fun change-of-pace drive with a lot of cool bridges over waterways (and of course, much quieter than I-95), but the lights and congestion in un-bypassed towns definitely got irritating at times.
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 07, 2021, 12:37:53 PM
...the commentary from the passenger seat began getting quite....shall we say, tart....
Similarly, I got some snarky comments during the aforementioned red lights about how we could have been sailing down I-95, and then once we arrived in Charleston I got an earful about how much more we could have accomplished with the extra hour had I taken I-95 :spin:
Quote from: Dirt Roads on April 07, 2021, 12:57:42 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 07, 2021, 11:18:18 AM
If you were driving from the DC area to Florida, what route would you use through North Carolina?
Quote from: tolbs17 on April 07, 2021, 11:21:37 AM
Obviously, I-95. But I have no desire to go to Florida anytime soon.
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 07, 2021, 11:28:43 AM
But I do, which is why I asked the question! I construed your comment in reply #36 as expressing a general problem with I-95 that might prompt you to take another route (which, to be sure, I've done multiple times–US-29 to Greensboro and then south thru Rockingham, or US-29 -> I-85 -> I-77–but both of those add significant travel time).
But it does depend on when you are leaving Northern Virginia. On Friday afternoon, I almost always chose US-29 as the best way south (even if I was only going to Fredericksburg). It's only about 90 minutes longer on the route through Charlotte, but you can bet that you will lose two hours on I-95 between the Beltway and Fredericksburg, and get hit with three or more delays of over 30 minutes between Richmond and the Florida border. You'll lose an hour between the Beltway and Manassas/Gainesville, and probably another 30 minutes in Charlotteville, and then free sail most of the rest of the way.
If you want to do the Roadgeek thing and try something different, I've been thinking about US-421 between Greensboro and Fayetteville. It looks like it will take 2 hours longer than I-95 free flow, but it has been upgraded significantly over the last 20 years. Once the southern part of I-295 around Fayetteville is complete, I think that route will become more attractive as an alternative to fighting I-95 traffic.
When going up north like I did last week, I went I95 to US 17 to I 66 and then to I81 to get to my pit stop.
Going back home, I took I 64 to US 29 to NC 86 then to I40.
If they want that I785 so badly, why not they just widen the shoulders and call it a deal! :nod:
Quote from: NJRoadfan on April 07, 2021, 01:08:04 PM
I'm going thru the area tomorrow if anyone has something to look out for. Construction zones are mostly closed shoulders and the occasional lane shift from what I saw in the dark heading south last month.
Exit 73-81 Looks pretty clear, just that they have orange signs up already.
I went on there when heading to NY and boy it was foggy!
Quote from: snowc on April 07, 2021, 04:09:02 PM
If they want that I785 so badly, why not they just widen the shoulders and call it a deal! :nod:
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Quote from: sprjus4 on April 07, 2021, 05:02:10 PM
Quote from: snowc on April 07, 2021, 04:09:02 PM
If they want that I785 so badly, why not they just widen the shoulders and call it a deal! :nod:
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(https://storage13.openstreetcam.org/files/photo/2021/4/1/proc/3484389_cc997b67f43ef6570945e730bedac5a7.jpg)
The right shoulder is VERY narrow, and does not qualify as an interstate.
I-785 goes through Danville, right?
Quote from: jmacswimmer on April 07, 2021, 01:18:48 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 07, 2021, 12:37:53 PM
A few years ago, I forget which year but I do recall it was Christmastime, I decided to take I-795 down to I-40 to Wilmington, then take US-17 (and SC-31) down the coast back to I-95 at Yemassee. It added about two hours versus just staying on I-95 the whole way...
During a trip that began in OBX & ended in Charleston, I decided to take US 17 the whole way down versus heading further inland on US 64 to I-95 (fewer miles this way, but an hour longer). I stuck with US 17 itself the entire distance from US 64 to Charleston except in Wilmington (I-140) and Myrtle (Hickman Road, SC 9, SC 31, SC 707). It was a fun change-of-pace drive with a lot of cool bridges over waterways (and of course, much quieter than I-95), but the lights and congestion in un-bypassed towns definitely got irritating at times.
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 07, 2021, 12:37:53 PM
...the commentary from the passenger seat began getting quite....shall we say, tart....
Similarly, I got some snarky comments during the aforementioned red lights about how we could have been sailing down I-95, and then once we arrived in Charleston I got an earful about how much more we could have accomplished with the extra hour had I taken I-95 :spin:
4 hr 13 from N of Richmond to N of Florence via I-95
only 43 min longer to do this - https://goo.gl/maps/1NpiydiKMUNAgN2Z8
There are numerous ways to get from Sanford back to I-95 that are only a few minutes more...my personal favorite is to use US 1, NC 177, US 74, and SC 38 which is 4 lane south of Bennettsville
I used to avoid Myrtle Beach entirely driving to Charleston from the Wilmington area using Hickman Rd, SC 90 and US 701 to Georgetown. This was the late 90s and other than Conway was just about completely empty. Google says this is a few minutes slower than US 17 and SC 31/707 these days.
Quote from: snowc on April 07, 2021, 05:45:45 PMI-785 goes through Danville, right?
That was the original plan, but in reality it'll end at the US-58 interchange at the VA state line. VDOT has no plans to upgrade the Danville bypass and I seriously doubt they have any intention of doing so.
Quote from: Mapmikey on April 07, 2021, 07:36:09 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on April 07, 2021, 01:18:48 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 07, 2021, 12:37:53 PM
A few years ago, I forget which year but I do recall it was Christmastime, I decided to take I-795 down to I-40 to Wilmington, then take US-17 (and SC-31) down the coast back to I-95 at Yemassee. It added about two hours versus just staying on I-95 the whole way...
During a trip that began in OBX & ended in Charleston, I decided to take US 17 the whole way down versus heading further inland on US 64 to I-95 (fewer miles this way, but an hour longer). I stuck with US 17 itself the entire distance from US 64 to Charleston except in Wilmington (I-140) and Myrtle (Hickman Road, SC 9, SC 31, SC 707). It was a fun change-of-pace drive with a lot of cool bridges over waterways (and of course, much quieter than I-95), but the lights and congestion in un-bypassed towns definitely got irritating at times.
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 07, 2021, 12:37:53 PM
...the commentary from the passenger seat began getting quite....shall we say, tart....
Similarly, I got some snarky comments during the aforementioned red lights about how we could have been sailing down I-95, and then once we arrived in Charleston I got an earful about how much more we could have accomplished with the extra hour had I taken I-95 :spin:
4 hr 13 from N of Richmond to N of Florence via I-95
only 43 min longer to do this - https://goo.gl/maps/1NpiydiKMUNAgN2Z8
There are numerous ways to get from Sanford back to I-95 that are only a few minutes more...my personal favorite is to use US 1, NC 177, US 74, and SC 38 which is 4 lane south of Bennettsville
I used to avoid Myrtle Beach entirely driving to Charleston from the Wilmington area using Hickman Rd, SC 90 and US 701 to Georgetown. This was the late 90s and other than Conway was just about completely empty. Google says this is a few minutes slower than US 17 and SC 31/707 these days.
Thanks for this idea. I might consider going that way because it's not much longer and it offers the chance to try some new roads that didn't exist during my time in Durham. Guess I'll see how promptly we get out the door in the morning when we're leaving.
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 08, 2021, 09:13:54 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on April 07, 2021, 07:36:09 PM
4 hr 13 from N of Richmond to N of Florence via I-95
only 43 min longer to do this - https://goo.gl/maps/1NpiydiKMUNAgN2Z8
There are numerous ways to get from Sanford back to I-95 that are only a few minutes more...my personal favorite is to use US 1, NC 177, US 74, and SC 38 which is 4 lane south of Bennettsville
I used to avoid Myrtle Beach entirely driving to Charleston from the Wilmington area using Hickman Rd, SC 90 and US 701 to Georgetown. This was the late 90s and other than Conway was just about completely empty. Google says this is a few minutes slower than US 17 and SC 31/707 these days.
Thanks for this idea. I might consider going that way because it's not much longer and it offers the chance to try some new roads that didn't exist during my time in Durham. Guess I'll see how promptly we get out the door in the morning when we're leaving.
Will be even better when I-885 opens
Quote from: Mapmikey on April 08, 2021, 09:16:44 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 08, 2021, 09:13:54 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on April 07, 2021, 07:36:09 PM
4 hr 13 from N of Richmond to N of Florence via I-95
only 43 min longer to do this - https://goo.gl/maps/1NpiydiKMUNAgN2Z8
There are numerous ways to get from Sanford back to I-95 that are only a few minutes more...my personal favorite is to use US 1, NC 177, US 74, and SC 38 which is 4 lane south of Bennettsville
I used to avoid Myrtle Beach entirely driving to Charleston from the Wilmington area using Hickman Rd, SC 90 and US 701 to Georgetown. This was the late 90s and other than Conway was just about completely empty. Google says this is a few minutes slower than US 17 and SC 31/707 these days.
Thanks for this idea. I might consider going that way because it's not much longer and it offers the chance to try some new roads that didn't exist during my time in Durham. Guess I'll see how promptly we get out the door in the morning when we're leaving.
Will be even better when I-885 opens
I thought of that when I looked at the map. The idea of being able to exit from southbound I-85 to eastbound US-70 is weird enough–it was a simple Y-interchange during my years there.
Quote from: Mapmikey on April 07, 2021, 07:36:09 PM
only 43 min longer to do this - https://goo.gl/maps/1NpiydiKMUNAgN2Z8
There are numerous ways to get from Sanford back to I-95 that are only a few minutes more...my personal favorite is to use US 1, NC 177, US 74, and SC 38 which is 4 lane south of Bennettsville
That looks crazy, but I can vouch for the South Miami Boulevard to Ellis Road cutover from US-70 to the Durham Freeway. That was my shortcut when I worked in RTP. However, if one stays on South Miami Boulevard it will take you all the way to I-40 and avoids two-lane Ellis Road with a railroad crossing and no escape routes. I'm surprised that South Miami Boulevard is not marked as a state highway. All that will be unnecessary when the Rand Route (I-885) is completed.
I've read in the I-42 thread that I-95 may be moved east to a new location so that a new interchange can be built, because to construct one on the current alignment is impossible with many other interchanges close by. What's the latest on that plan?
Quote from: Henry on April 08, 2021, 10:38:56 AM
I've read in the I-42 thread that I-95 may be moved east to a new location so that a new interchange can be built, because to construct one on the current alignment is impossible with many other interchanges close by. What's the latest on that plan?
Just in case you missed this,
wdcrft63 posted the plans from the Design Review Meeting on this project inthe I-42 thread. Although I-95 would be relocated, it is not technically a relocation from the AASHTO perspective. It's just sliding the interchange a tad to the east so that all of the ramps fit. However, it misses the concept that there would be sufficient traffic from I-95 southbound to I-42 eastbound to warrant a flyover (because many folks will stay on I-95 rather than taking I-795 to Goldsboro).
Quote from: tjcreasy on April 02, 2021, 09:57:27 AM
I'm sure a better answer will be provided but here's my take: The interchange complexity for an I-42 I-95 interchange at the current location is more than what NCDOT wants to take on. There is a proposal out their to shift I-95 to the east on new location to simplify the interchange design.
Quote from: abqtraveler on April 02, 2021, 10:16:15 AM
They couldn't just build a simple cloverleaf interchange to connect I-42 and I-95?
Quote from: wdcrft63 on April 02, 2021, 06:06:54 PM
A cloverleaf is proposed, but the relocation would avoid wiping out a lot of development along the west side of I-95. There's open country on the east side. Here's the map:
https://jocoreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Conceptual-design-of-95-and-70-interchnage.pdf
Quote from: Dirt Roads on April 08, 2021, 11:11:08 AM
However, it misses the concept that there would be sufficient traffic from I-95 southbound to I-42 eastbound to warrant a flyover (because many folks will stay on I-95 rather than taking I-795 to Goldsboro) .
That doesn't make sense to me. For those headed to the Crystal Coast from Wilson & points north (and vice-versa), it would be quicker to drop down I-795 & get on I-42 in Goldsboro.
Quote from: Dirt Roads on April 08, 2021, 11:11:08 AM
Quote from: Henry on April 08, 2021, 10:38:56 AM
I've read in the I-42 thread that I-95 may be moved east to a new location so that a new interchange can be built, because to construct one on the current alignment is impossible with many other interchanges close by. What's the latest on that plan?
Just in case you missed this, wdcrft63 posted the plans from the Design Review Meeting on this project inthe I-42 thread. Although I-95 would be relocated, it is not technically a relocation from the AASHTO perspective. It's just sliding the interchange a tad to the east so that all of the ramps fit. However, it misses the concept that there would be sufficient traffic from I-95 southbound to I-42 eastbound to warrant a flyover (because many folks will stay on I-95 rather than taking I-795 to Goldsboro).
Quote from: tjcreasy on April 02, 2021, 09:57:27 AM
I'm sure a better answer will be provided but here's my take: The interchange complexity for an I-42 I-95 interchange at the current location is more than what NCDOT wants to take on. There is a proposal out their to shift I-95 to the east on new location to simplify the interchange design.
Quote from: abqtraveler on April 02, 2021, 10:16:15 AM
They couldn't just build a simple cloverleaf interchange to connect I-42 and I-95?
Quote from: wdcrft63 on April 02, 2021, 06:06:54 PM
A cloverleaf is proposed, but the relocation would avoid wiping out a lot of development along the west side of I-95. There's open country on the east side. Here's the map:
https://jocoreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Conceptual-design-of-95-and-70-interchnage.pdf
https://ncdot.maps.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=b7a26d6d8abd419f8c27f58a607b25a1
these ramps don't get a lot of traffic.
Quote from: Dirt Roads on April 08, 2021, 11:11:08 AM
However, it misses the concept that there would be sufficient traffic from I-95 southbound to I-42 eastbound to warrant a flyover (because many folks will stay on I-95 rather than taking I-795 to Goldsboro) .
Quote from: LM117 on April 08, 2021, 12:02:41 PM
That doesn't make sense to me. For those headed to the Crystal Coast from Wilson & points north (and vice-versa), it would be quicker to drop down I-795 & get on I-42 in Goldsboro.
That should be true today as well, but I hardly see anybody taking the I-795 ramp to eastbound US-70, whereas there is still plenty of traffic coming from I-95 at Smithfield/Selma. I do know that most GPS will select I-795 as both the faster route and the shorter route, so I suspect that many folks are not paying attention. In days gone by, we could blame this on folks intentionally stopping at the Outlet Malls in Smithfield rather than taking the shortest route. I don't understand it myself. Quite often, I-540 to US-64/US-264 to I-795 is the better route from Raleigh/Durham due to construction traffic on I-40 during rush hour.
Quote from: Dirt Roads on April 08, 2021, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on April 08, 2021, 11:11:08 AM
However, it misses the concept that there would be sufficient traffic from I-95 southbound to I-42 eastbound to warrant a flyover (because many folks will stay on I-95 rather than taking I-795 to Goldsboro) .
Quote from: LM117 on April 08, 2021, 12:02:41 PM
That doesn't make sense to me. For those headed to the Crystal Coast from Wilson & points north (and vice-versa), it would be quicker to drop down I-795 & get on I-42 in Goldsboro.
That should be true today as well, but I hardly see anybody taking the I-795 ramp to eastbound US-70, whereas there is still plenty of traffic coming from I-95 at Smithfield/Selma. I do know that most GPS will select I-795 as both the faster route and the shorter route, so I suspect that many folks are not paying attention. In days gone by, we could blame this on folks intentionally stopping at the Outlet Malls in Smithfield rather than taking the shortest route. I don't understand it myself. Quite often, I-540 to US-64/US-264 to I-795 is the better route from Raleigh/Durham due to construction traffic on I-40 during rush hour.
Locals don't use I-95 unless they're going way down in SC or to Florida. They certainly wouldn't use it to go to any of the beach regions. There are so many ways to go East to any beach that I-95 simply isn't a consideration. That's my 2 cents worth.
Quote from: Dirt Roads on April 08, 2021, 11:11:08 AM
However, it misses the concept that there would be sufficient traffic from I-95 southbound to I-42 eastbound to warrant a flyover (because many folks will stay on I-95 rather than taking I-795 to Goldsboro) .
Quote from: LM117 on April 08, 2021, 12:02:41 PM
That doesn't make sense to me. For those headed to the Crystal Coast from Wilson & points north (and vice-versa), it would be quicker to drop down I-795 & get on I-42 in Goldsboro.
Quote from: Dirt Roads on April 08, 2021, 12:19:40 PM
That should be true today as well, but I hardly see anybody taking the I-795 ramp to eastbound US-70, whereas there is still plenty of traffic coming from I-95 at Smithfield/Selma. I do know that most GPS will select I-795 as both the faster route and the shorter route, so I suspect that many folks are not paying attention. In days gone by, we could blame this on folks intentionally stopping at the Outlet Malls in Smithfield rather than taking the shortest route. I don't understand it myself. Quite often, I-540 to US-64/US-264 to I-795 is the better route from Raleigh/Durham due to construction traffic on I-40 during rush hour.
Quote from: architect77 on April 08, 2021, 01:45:36 PM
Locals don't use I-95 unless they're going way down in SC or to Florida. They certainly wouldn't use it to go to any of the beach regions. There are so many ways to go East to any beach that I-95 simply isn't a consideration. That's my 2 cents worth.
Agreed. But I don't see locals using I-795 to get to Down East beaches either (they may be using I-795 to get to the Wilmington area, but I haven't run that enough to know for sure). I do know some folks use NC-43 from Greenville to get Down East.
Quote from: Dirt Roads on April 08, 2021, 04:40:12 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on April 08, 2021, 11:11:08 AM
However, it misses the concept that there would be sufficient traffic from I-95 southbound to I-42 eastbound to warrant a flyover (because many folks will stay on I-95 rather than taking I-795 to Goldsboro) .
Quote from: LM117 on April 08, 2021, 12:02:41 PM
That doesn't make sense to me. For those headed to the Crystal Coast from Wilson & points north (and vice-versa), it would be quicker to drop down I-795 & get on I-42 in Goldsboro.
Quote from: Dirt Roads on April 08, 2021, 12:19:40 PM
That should be true today as well, but I hardly see anybody taking the I-795 ramp to eastbound US-70, whereas there is still plenty of traffic coming from I-95 at Smithfield/Selma. I do know that most GPS will select I-795 as both the faster route and the shorter route, so I suspect that many folks are not paying attention. In days gone by, we could blame this on folks intentionally stopping at the Outlet Malls in Smithfield rather than taking the shortest route. I don't understand it myself. Quite often, I-540 to US-64/US-264 to I-795 is the better route from Raleigh/Durham due to construction traffic on I-40 during rush hour.
Quote from: architect77 on April 08, 2021, 01:45:36 PM
Locals don't use I-95 unless they're going way down in SC or to Florida. They certainly wouldn't use it to go to any of the beach regions. There are so many ways to go East to any beach that I-95 simply isn't a consideration. That's my 2 cents worth.
Agreed. But I don't see locals using I-795 to get to Down East beaches either (they may be using I-795 to get to the Wilmington area, but I haven't run that enough to know for sure). I do know some folks use NC-43 from Greenville to get Down East.
I've driven I-795 a few times over the last few years since I moved out of Wayne County (most recent visit was in December 2017), and I've noticed a lot of out-of-state plates on it. I initially thought they were headed for US-70, but I've seen them on US-117 south of Goldsboro as well, so the majority were definitely headed for Wilmington. I've also seen an increase in truck traffic, which I'm sure is partly due to the new Enviva plant that was built next to the I-40 interchange near Faison.
When I moved out in late 2009, I-795 was a ghost town. More often than not, you could've done donuts on it and not worry about getting smacked. Definitely not the case anymore.
Per NCDOT traffic data - https://ncdot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=5f6fe58c1d90482ab9107ccc03026280
I-795 has these values:
Segment between US 264 and US 301: 2012 (7.9k); 2019 (12.5k)
Segment just north of Future I-42: 2012 (13k); 2019 (18.5k)
Segment just north of Future I-42: 2012 (13k); 2019 (17k)
The US 13-117 segment with the Neuse River Br is 34k for 2019.
Quote from: LM117 on April 10, 2021, 10:25:12 AM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on April 08, 2021, 04:40:12 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on April 08, 2021, 11:11:08 AM
However, it misses the concept that there would be sufficient traffic from I-95 southbound to I-42 eastbound to warrant a flyover (because many folks will stay on I-95 rather than taking I-795 to Goldsboro) .
Quote from: LM117 on April 08, 2021, 12:02:41 PM
That doesn't make sense to me. For those headed to the Crystal Coast from Wilson & points north (and vice-versa), it would be quicker to drop down I-795 & get on I-42 in Goldsboro.
Quote from: Dirt Roads on April 08, 2021, 12:19:40 PM
That should be true today as well, but I hardly see anybody taking the I-795 ramp to eastbound US-70, whereas there is still plenty of traffic coming from I-95 at Smithfield/Selma. I do know that most GPS will select I-795 as both the faster route and the shorter route, so I suspect that many folks are not paying attention. In days gone by, we could blame this on folks intentionally stopping at the Outlet Malls in Smithfield rather than taking the shortest route. I don't understand it myself. Quite often, I-540 to US-64/US-264 to I-795 is the better route from Raleigh/Durham due to construction traffic on I-40 during rush hour.
Quote from: architect77 on April 08, 2021, 01:45:36 PM
Locals don't use I-95 unless they're going way down in SC or to Florida. They certainly wouldn't use it to go to any of the beach regions. There are so many ways to go East to any beach that I-95 simply isn't a consideration. That's my 2 cents worth.
Agreed. But I don't see locals using I-795 to get to Down East beaches either (they may be using I-795 to get to the Wilmington area, but I haven't run that enough to know for sure). I do know some folks use NC-43 from Greenville to get Down East.
I've driven I-795 a few times over the last few years since I moved out of Wayne County (most recent visit was in December 2017), and I've noticed a lot of out-of-state plates on it. I initially thought they were headed for US-70, but I've seen them on US-117 south of Goldsboro as well, so the majority were definitely headed for Wilmington. I've also seen an increase in truck traffic, which I'm sure is partly due to the new Enviva plant that was built next to the I-40 interchange near Faison.
When I moved out in late 2009, I-795 was a ghost town. More often than not, you could've done donuts on it and not worry about getting smacked. Definitely not the case anymore.
In 2019 I drove to Wilmington in the Summer on US74. Once I crossed I-95 and the license plates on US74 and at a gas/convenience store were from all over the country including some far flung states.
I knew that NC beaches were popular for folks in the mid Atlantic and as far West as Ohio, but NC and Va plates on US74 were in the minority compared to the mulitple Florida, Penn, NY and states as far away as Oklahoms, Nevada, snd Iowa.
All seemingly headed to the Cape Fear region. NC truly seems to have become central to America than just "locally enjoyed"
NCDOT has posted the 8-week advertisement for the contract to widen I-95 between Exits 71 and 81 in Harnett and Johnston Counties. (And as the text actually reads: Note: ELETRONIC BIDDING FILES WILL BE POSTED AT A LATER DATE*)
The plans, including for signage, are available at:
https://xfer.services.ncdot.gov/dsplan/2021%20Highway%20Letting/07-20-21/Plans%20and%20Proposals/HARNETT_JOHNSTON_47532.3.3_I-5986B,%20I-5878,%20I-5883C204543/Individual%20Sheets/ (https://xfer.services.ncdot.gov/dsplan/2021%20Highway%20Letting/07-20-21/Plans%20and%20Proposals/HARNETT_JOHNSTON_47532.3.3_I-5986B,%20I-5878,%20I-5883C204543/Individual%20Sheets/)
I found a huge flaw in the southbound off-ramp for Exit 70:
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening/Documents/preliminary-design-section-b-map-7.pdf
That ramp looks way to tight to me,
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 07, 2021, 01:15:06 AM
I found a huge flaw in the southbound off-ramp for Exit 70:
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening/Documents/preliminary-design-section-b-map-7.pdf
That ramp looks way to tight to me,
Note the long deceleration lane before the radius.
Though I will agree, it could've been designed better.
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 07, 2021, 01:16:41 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 07, 2021, 01:15:06 AM
I found a huge flaw in the southbound off-ramp for Exit 70:
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening/Documents/preliminary-design-section-b-map-7.pdf
That ramp looks way to tight to me,
Note the long deceleration lane before the radius.
Though I will agree, it could've been designed better.
Like they turn it into a Diamond interchange?
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 07, 2021, 09:49:10 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 07, 2021, 01:16:41 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 07, 2021, 01:15:06 AM
I found a huge flaw in the southbound off-ramp for Exit 70:
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening/Documents/preliminary-design-section-b-map-7.pdf
That ramp looks way to tight to me,
Note the long deceleration lane before the radius.
Though I will agree, it could've been designed better.
Like they turn it into a Diamond interchange?
Wider ramp radius would have less impact than a full conversion to another interchange type.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 07, 2021, 01:15:06 AM
I found a huge flaw in the southbound off-ramp for Exit 70:
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening/Documents/preliminary-design-section-b-map-7.pdf
That ramp looks way to tight to me,
Appears they tried keeping it within the current right of way. The actual curvature is greater than what currently exists. The sight line approaching the intersection is substandard though.
Because of the local roadways, a diamond interchange probably wouldn't be the most appropriate interchange type for this area.
Based on the PDF, it appears the curve radius is approximately 250ft. With a 2% superelevation, that translates to a design speed of roughly 27 MPH. Pretty typical for a loop ramp.
Could the intersection approach be longer? Sure. But then you'd be impacting that house on the corner enough to make it a potential ROW take. I don't see anything wrong with the proposed design.
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 07, 2021, 10:05:19 AM
Wider ramp radius would have less impact than a full conversion to another interchange type.
And provides more room for drivers to slow down before reaching the intersection.
Quote from: froggie on June 07, 2021, 09:08:07 PM
Could the intersection approach be longer? Sure. But then you'd be impacting that house on the corner enough to make it a potential ROW take.
I didn't think either version impacted the house there.
Quote from: froggie on June 07, 2021, 09:08:07 PM
Based on the PDF, it appears the curve radius is approximately 250ft. With a 2% superelevation, that translates to a design speed of roughly 27 MPH. Pretty typical for a loop ramp.
Could the intersection approach be longer? Sure. But then you'd be impacting that house on the corner enough to make it a potential ROW take. I don't see anything wrong with the proposed design.
I believe that's more of the issue - the distance between the loop radii and the intersection is very minimal - than the loop radii itself.
For the current conditions, it's likely fine given low traffic volumes, but if there's ever any truck stops or businesses established in the area that would increase truck volumes, that could present a safety concern.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 08, 2021, 10:54:38 AM
I didn't think either version impacted the house there,
If you expanded the interchange footprint any larger to accommodate a longer connection between the radii and crossroad, you'd have to purchase the house for the wider right of way.
Aside from the proposed easement for drainage, construction and/or utility, I can't see any reason to purchase the house, From what I see in the PDF, there's not that much of an expansion of the footprint to begin with. Just a reconfiguration, and the elimination of one frontage road.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/35.5929779,-78.133325/35.7337554,-78.0119732/@35.6607667,-78.1013866,12.75z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0
I don't see this part getting widened in the next 10-20 years or so. It has the least amount of traffic.
Quote from: LM117 on April 08, 2021, 09:08:21 AM
Quote from: snowc on April 07, 2021, 05:45:45 PMI-785 goes through Danville, right?
That was the original plan, but in reality it'll end at the US-58 interchange at the VA state line. VDOT has no plans to upgrade the Danville bypass and I seriously doubt they have any intention of doing so.
Right ending point (I-785 will end at US 58), but wrong location. I-785 will end at US 58 and US 360 east of Danville. According to their page in the past (if I can find one), the Danville bypass is already interstate standards with the exception of one right turn, right exit "intersection" just to the east of US 29/US 58/Business 29 interchange. I believe it is Elizabeth St or something like that.
Quote from: Strider on July 03, 2021, 04:14:01 PM
Quote from: LM117 on April 08, 2021, 09:08:21 AM
Quote from: snowc on April 07, 2021, 05:45:45 PMI-785 goes through Danville, right?
That was the original plan, but in reality it'll end at the US-58 interchange at the VA state line. VDOT has no plans to upgrade the Danville bypass and I seriously doubt they have any intention of doing so.
Right ending point (I-785 will end at US 58), but wrong location. I-785 will end at US 58 and US 360 east of Danville. According to their page in the past (if I can find one), the Danville bypass is already interstate standards with the exception of one right turn, right exit "intersection" just to the east of US 29/US 58/Business 29 interchange. I believe it is Elizabeth St or something like that.
No, he's saying, most likely it'll end at the US-58 interchange at the state line. VDOT has already identified a number of improvements on the US-29 bypass that are needed to bring it to interstate standards, in particular that one RI/RO intersection. And we all know VDOT. I-785 is going to end at the state line.
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 03, 2021, 04:21:08 PM
Quote from: Strider on July 03, 2021, 04:14:01 PM
Quote from: LM117 on April 08, 2021, 09:08:21 AM
Quote from: snowc on April 07, 2021, 05:45:45 PMI-785 goes through Danville, right?
That was the original plan, but in reality it'll end at the US-58 interchange at the VA state line. VDOT has no plans to upgrade the Danville bypass and I seriously doubt they have any intention of doing so.
Right ending point (I-785 will end at US 58), but wrong location. I-785 will end at US 58 and US 360 east of Danville. According to their page in the past (if I can find one), the Danville bypass is already interstate standards with the exception of one right turn, right exit "intersection" just to the east of US 29/US 58/Business 29 interchange. I believe it is Elizabeth St or something like that.
No, he's saying, most likely it'll end at the US-58 interchange at the state line. VDOT has already identified a number of improvements on the US-29 bypass that are needed to bring it to interstate standards, in particular that one RI/RO intersection. And we all know VDOT. I-785 is going to end at the state line.
Many other documents say otherwise. Until I see the proof that says it will end at the state line, it will end east of Danville. End of discussion. (It doesn't matter if you know VDOT or not.)
Quote from: Strider on July 03, 2021, 04:40:53 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 03, 2021, 04:21:08 PM
Quote from: Strider on July 03, 2021, 04:14:01 PM
Quote from: LM117 on April 08, 2021, 09:08:21 AM
Quote from: snowc on April 07, 2021, 05:45:45 PMI-785 goes through Danville, right?
That was the original plan, but in reality it'll end at the US-58 interchange at the VA state line. VDOT has no plans to upgrade the Danville bypass and I seriously doubt they have any intention of doing so.
Right ending point (I-785 will end at US 58), but wrong location. I-785 will end at US 58 and US 360 east of Danville. According to their page in the past (if I can find one), the Danville bypass is already interstate standards with the exception of one right turn, right exit "intersection" just to the east of US 29/US 58/Business 29 interchange. I believe it is Elizabeth St or something like that.
No, he's saying, most likely it'll end at the US-58 interchange at the state line. VDOT has already identified a number of improvements on the US-29 bypass that are needed to bring it to interstate standards, in particular that one RI/RO intersection. And we all know VDOT. I-785 is going to end at the state line.
Many other documents say otherwise. Until I see the proof that says it will end at the state line, it will end east of Danville. End of discussion. (It doesn't matter if you know VDOT or not.)
It may officially be slated to end at US-58 / US-360, yes. But what I'm saying, is when NCDOT finishes upgrading the southern stretch of US-29 towards Greensboro, and is ready to post I-785 shields, they're going to do so up to the state line (the end of their jurisdiction). At that point, it's up to VDOT to finish posting the rest and completing necessary upgrades along the US-29 / US-58 bypass. There's currently no funding in place for such improvements and will likely remain that way even after I-785 is complete in NC. So, therefore, I-785 will likely sit at the state line for a while.
Unless things change, of course and an interchange gets funded along with other improvements, but who knows at this rate.
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 03, 2021, 04:45:11 PM
Quote from: Strider on July 03, 2021, 04:40:53 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 03, 2021, 04:21:08 PM
Quote from: Strider on July 03, 2021, 04:14:01 PM
Quote from: LM117 on April 08, 2021, 09:08:21 AM
Quote from: snowc on April 07, 2021, 05:45:45 PMI-785 goes through Danville, right?
That was the original plan, but in reality it'll end at the US-58 interchange at the VA state line. VDOT has no plans to upgrade the Danville bypass and I seriously doubt they have any intention of doing so.
Right ending point (I-785 will end at US 58), but wrong location. I-785 will end at US 58 and US 360 east of Danville. According to their page in the past (if I can find one), the Danville bypass is already interstate standards with the exception of one right turn, right exit "intersection" just to the east of US 29/US 58/Business 29 interchange. I believe it is Elizabeth St or something like that.
No, he's saying, most likely it'll end at the US-58 interchange at the state line. VDOT has already identified a number of improvements on the US-29 bypass that are needed to bring it to interstate standards, in particular that one RI/RO intersection. And we all know VDOT. I-785 is going to end at the state line.
Many other documents say otherwise. Until I see the proof that says it will end at the state line, it will end east of Danville. End of discussion. (It doesn't matter if you know VDOT or not.)
It may officially be slated to end at US-58 / US-360, yes. But what I'm saying, is when NCDOT finishes upgrading the southern stretch of US-29 towards Greensboro, and is ready to post I-785 shields, they're going to do so up to the state line (the end of their jurisdiction). At that point, it's up to VDOT to finish posting the rest and completing necessary upgrades along the US-29 / US-58 bypass. There's currently no funding in place for such improvements and will likely remain that way even after I-785 is complete in NC. So, therefore, I-785 will likely sit at the state line for a while.
Unless things change, of course and an interchange gets funded along with other improvements, but who knows at this rate.
This is I-95 Widening discussion. I just said I'm done discussing about non-I-95 related. Move on.
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.6019352,-79.1045163,16.79z
Surprised they didn't want to put a half-diamond interchange here.
^ Former location of a full interchange, pre I-74. FHWA frowns upon partial interchanges and the road is easily-enough accessed via a short hop on I-74.
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 03, 2021, 04:21:08 PM
Quote from: Strider on July 03, 2021, 04:14:01 PM
Quote from: LM117 on April 08, 2021, 09:08:21 AM
Quote from: snowc on April 07, 2021, 05:45:45 PMI-785 goes through Danville, right?
That was the original plan, but in reality it'll end at the US-58 interchange at the VA state line. VDOT has no plans to upgrade the Danville bypass and I seriously doubt they have any intention of doing so.
Right ending point (I-785 will end at US 58), but wrong location. I-785 will end at US 58 and US 360 east of Danville. According to their page in the past (if I can find one), the Danville bypass is already interstate standards with the exception of one right turn, right exit "intersection" just to the east of US 29/US 58/Business 29 interchange. I believe it is Elizabeth St or something like that.
No, he's saying, most likely it'll end at the US-58 interchange at the state line. VDOT has already identified a number of improvements on the US-29 bypass that are needed to bring it to interstate standards, in particular that one RI/RO intersection. And we all know VDOT. I-785 is going to end at the state line.
Exactly.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3767874,-78.5413113,911m/data=!3m1!1e3
Wondering why this interchange needs to be rebuilt again after it was rebuilt in like 2001 or 2002.
I am wondering why NC goes through all of these expenses in the first place.
NCDOT awarded a contract to widen another stretch of I-95, this time between Exit 71 just south of Dunn and I-40 in Benson. The contract also calls for other improvements along the corridor. Completion is expected by summer 2026.
https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2021/2021-07-29-i-95-widening-dunn-area.aspx (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2021/2021-07-29-i-95-widening-dunn-area.aspx)
Quote from: LM117 on July 29, 2021, 03:11:01 PM
NCDOT awarded a contract to widen another stretch of I-95, this time between Exit 71 just south of Dunn and I-40 in Benson. The contract also calls for other improvements along the corridor. Completion is expected by summer 2026.
https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2021/2021-07-29-i-95-widening-dunn-area.aspx (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2021/2021-07-29-i-95-widening-dunn-area.aspx)
And it's a big deal: it will make I-95 eight lanes between Fayetteville and I-40.
^ And then another 26 mile portion between I-74 and Fayetteville south of the bypass, as well.
So a total of around 50 miles of 8 lanes by the end of the decade, assuming no more projects (such as the Fayetteville Bypass itself) get funded.
Pretty good, and also pretty sad North Carolina will have these long 8 lane portions and the at least twice to triple as busier portions of I-95 north of Richmond, VA still only will have 6 lanes. It truly shows the difference between VDOT and NCDOT.
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 11, 2021, 11:54:05 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3767874,-78.5413113,911m/data=!3m1!1e3
Wondering why this interchange needs to be rebuilt again after it was rebuilt in like 2001 or 2002.
It seems like the only reason they want to rebuild this interchange is so they can add unnecessary roundabouts. I know it's not as cockamamie as the plan they've got for Exit 90, but to me it seems like they're only building it to show European-environmental groups how supposedly "progressive" they are. Plus the one along the northbound ramps tears up the dog park and has five access points, making it less safe.
Quote from: froggie on July 03, 2021, 11:21:44 PM
^ Former location of a full interchange, pre I-74. FHWA frowns upon partial interchanges and the road is easily-enough accessed via a short hop on I-74.
Which is a good idea. It's also the reason I'm glad NYSDOT never added a new interchange for Jerusalem Avenue (should be NY 105) along Meadowbrook State Parkway north of Southern State Parkway.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 02, 2021, 12:35:15 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 11, 2021, 11:54:05 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3767874,-78.5413113,911m/data=!3m1!1e3
Wondering why this interchange needs to be rebuilt again after it was rebuilt in like 2001 or 2002.
It seems like the only reason they want to rebuild this interchange is so they can add unnecessary roundabouts. I know it's not as cockamamie as the plan they've got for Exit 90, but to me it seems like they're only building it to show European-environmental groups how supposedly "progressive" they are. Plus the one along the northbound ramps tears up the dog park and has five access points, making it less safe.
Given your response, I would presume you are anti-roundabout, despite their well-documented and notable improvements to traffic flow and safety over traditional signals.
There are a couple other things to note in your response. First, NCDOT owns the land that "dog park" sits on (and most of where the dog park physically is will remain intact in the current plan). Second, by using a roundabout at the northbound ramps, they can reconfigure the interchange into a traditional diamond instead of having an off-ramp loop, which WILL make things safer.
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 02, 2021, 03:23:48 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/35.5929779,-78.133325/35.7337554,-78.0119732/@35.6607667,-78.1013866,12.75z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0
I don't see this part getting widened in the next 10-20 years or so. It has the least amount of traffic.
It gets exciting at Kenly.
Quote from: epzik8 on August 03, 2021, 04:06:54 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 02, 2021, 03:23:48 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/35.5929779,-78.133325/35.7337554,-78.0119732/@35.6607667,-78.1013866,12.75z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0
I don't see this part getting widened in the next 10-20 years or so. It has the least amount of traffic.
It gets exciting at Kenly.
There are no exits for several miles here. Unlike south of Kenly which has pretty much an interchange every 2 miles. The difference is the location of the freeway to US 301 and the time built. The part from Eastover to Kenly was built early on in the game and from Kenly to Gold Rock was built in the late seventies. Plus the latter is several miles from US 301 keeping the need for local traffic to a minimum.
Quote from: froggie on August 03, 2021, 10:54:50 AM
Given your response, I would presume you are anti-roundabout, despite their well-documented and notable improvements to traffic flow and safety over traditional signals.
I'm actually fine with them if they're done right. They can't be everywhere though. Also if they were always as safe as advocates for them claimed they are, the Hawthorne Circle would still exist between the Saw Mill River and Taconic State Parkways.
Quote from: froggie on August 03, 2021, 10:54:50 AM
There are a couple other things to note in your response. First, NCDOT owns the land that "dog park" sits on (and most of where the dog park physically is will remain intact in the current plan). Second, by using a roundabout at the northbound ramps, they can reconfigure the interchange into a traditional diamond instead of having an off-ramp loop, which WILL make things safer.
They've got the northbound off-ramp and the intersection with South Walton Drive too close to one another. You can't convince me that's safer.
In a low speed roundabout situation where you have fewer conflict points anyway, yes it would be safer.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 04, 2021, 10:17:24 AM
Quote from: froggie on August 03, 2021, 10:54:50 AM
Given your response, I would presume you are anti-roundabout, despite their well-documented and notable improvements to traffic flow and safety over traditional signals.
I'm actually fine with them if they're done right. They can't be everywhere though. Also if they were always as safe as advocates for them claimed they are, the Hawthorne Circle would still exist between the Saw Mill River and Taconic State Parkways.
That was not a roundabout...that was a traffic circle. BIG difference between traffic circles and roundabouts, notably that traffic circles have wider radii which encourages higher speeds, and don't always have clear lane delineation. Nevermind that the Saw Mill and the Taconic are, for all intents, freeways and have been for several decades.
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Quote from: froggie on August 03, 2021, 10:54:50 AM
There are a couple other things to note in your response. First, NCDOT owns the land that "dog park" sits on (and most of where the dog park physically is will remain intact in the current plan). Second, by using a roundabout at the northbound ramps, they can reconfigure the interchange into a traditional diamond instead of having an off-ramp loop, which WILL make things safer.
They've got the northbound off-ramp and the intersection with South Walton Drive too close to one another. You can't convince me that's safer.
Looks like normal roundabout ramp spacing to me. Plus, given both the lower-speed roundabout scenario and fewer conflict points than a traditional intersection, yes that will be safer.
I just re-examined the plan, and I'm finding this harder to believe than earlier:
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening/Documents/preliminary-design-section-b-map-15.pdf
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 04, 2021, 10:49:53 AM
I just re-examined the plan, and I'm finding this harder to believe than earlier:
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening/Documents/preliminary-design-section-b-map-15.pdf
Still not seeing the issue here. Looks like a decent roundabout considering the other infrastructure in the area.
Also, taking a single example of a circle removal doesn't mean that the design option is no good anywhere ever.
They must not be expecting much traffic growth on NC 50 anytime soon since they aren't building a wider bridge (this will be the 3rd overpass here).
Note this will be the 3rd different interchange configuration here. Neither current off-ramp is original, as the NB ramp connected to NC 242 and the SB ramp became Church St.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 04, 2021, 11:42:46 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 04, 2021, 10:49:53 AM
I just re-examined the plan, and I'm finding this harder to believe than earlier:
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening/Documents/preliminary-design-section-b-map-15.pdf
Still not seeing the issue here. Looks like a decent roundabout considering the other infrastructure in the area.
Also, taking a single example of a circle removal doesn't mean that the design option is no good anywhere ever.
You don't see how two of the roads are planned to be pushed close to one another? I should point out the five different entry and exit points, but the Newtown Grove Roundabout has six, and that works.
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 04, 2021, 11:46:53 AM
Note this will be the 3rd different interchange configuration here. Neither current off-ramp is original, as the NB ramp connected to NC 242 and the SB ramp became Church St.
And you really don't need to go to Historic Aerials to figure that out either, because you can still see the scars of the old northbound off-ramp.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 04, 2021, 10:49:53 AM
I just re-examined the plan, and I'm finding this harder to believe than earlier:
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening/Documents/preliminary-design-section-b-map-15.pdf
So could you guys explain why a SPUI wouldn't be easier and simpler here?
Having two roundabouts sorta repeats the problem of older interchanges that have two sets of signials on each side of the mainline interstate.
Quote from: architect77 on August 06, 2021, 04:33:29 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 04, 2021, 10:49:53 AM
I just re-examined the plan, and I'm finding this harder to believe than earlier:
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening/Documents/preliminary-design-section-b-map-15.pdf
So could you guys explain why a SPUI wouldn't be easier and simpler here?
Having two roundabouts sorta repeats the problem of older interchanges that have two sets of signials on each side of the mainline interstate.
North Carolina seems to have given up on the SPUI, probably due to the cost of constructing the larger structures they require. Haven't seen a new one proposed or constructed in several years since the DDI became à la mode. A SPUI would also be overkill for that interchange, but I am a little surprised at the two-lane bridge and single-lane roundabouts with that traffic forecast and the existing lanes. My guess is an early proposal was massive with a lot of impacts and there was some negative feedback, so they scaled the interchange way back.
This reminds me of a kind of weird
proposal on I-26 (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/public-meetings/Documents/I-4729B_Public_Meeting_Map.pdf) where the existing three-lane road is maintained, but the revisions include a four-lane overpass and two 1-2 lane "hybrid(?)" roundabouts on either side. Seems like if they had to add the lanes at the bridge to have an acceptable level of service for the interchange in the design year that they would need to widen the road. However, if NC 108 is ever widened in the future (which was originally proposed in the feasibility study), they're stuck with a bridge that's too narrow for a left turn lane (again).
It seems like NC may be starting to scale back on rural projects with borderline volume/capacity issues that 20 years ago would have been a major widening that would probably be a bit excessive for the location and traffic volumes. Which is not surprising with their recent budget woes and the increasing costs of construction and right-of-way, and it is probably long overdue based on some of the wide roads I've driven on in the middle of nowhere.
^ Those construction costs plus the major hits NCDOT's budget has taken in recent years (between hurricane damage and the Map Act fiasco) would also be a player in why a SPUI wasn't considered at 95/50. A SPUI would have considerably higher cost due to the large bridge requirements (especially with bridging over 8 lanes of 95).
Quote from: froggie on August 07, 2021, 10:21:18 AM
^ Those construction costs plus the major hits NCDOT's budget has taken in recent years (between hurricane damage and the Map Act fiasco) would also be a player in why a SPUI wasn't considered at 95/50. A SPUI would have considerably higher cost due to the large bridge requirements (especially with bridging over 8 lanes of 95).
The close proximity to South Walton seems like it would spoil the benefits of the SPUI too.
Quote from: architect77 on August 06, 2021, 04:33:29 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 04, 2021, 10:49:53 AM
I just re-examined the plan, and I'm finding this harder to believe than earlier:
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/i-95-widening/Documents/preliminary-design-section-b-map-15.pdf
So could you guys explain why a SPUI wouldn't be easier and simpler here?
Having two roundabouts sorta repeats the problem of older interchanges that have two sets of signials on eachhr volume side of the mainline interstate.
How much more would you want to spend for a SPUI there? Won't see many SPUIs in NC, the DDI effectively replaces the function for much less cost.
The roundabout on the SB side allowed the multi lane section to be reduced, as the projected volume across the bridge didn't warrant more than single lanes in each direction.
The roundabout on the NB side allowed NC 242 not to have to be relocated given the diamond ramp reconfiguration on that side.
Quote from: jdunlop on August 10, 2021, 04:36:16 PM
The roundabout on the NB side allowed NC 242 not to have to be relocated given the diamond ramp reconfiguration on that side.
Actually the roundabout on the northbound side relocates 242 towards it, and more importantly (which is the big problem here), too close to the off-ramp from I-95.
^ Jim (Dunlop) was referring to how 242 would have had to be relocated further away from 95 if a standard diamond ramp intersection was used. Since he's a (now retired?) engineer, I'd trust his judgement that a roundabout is adequate despite your claims that it is "too close".
Quote from: froggie on August 11, 2021, 08:16:28 AM
^ Jim (Dunlop) was referring to how 242 would have had to be relocated further away from 95 if a standard diamond ramp intersection was used. Since he's a (now retired?) engineer, I'd trust his judgement that a roundabout is adequate despite your claims that it is "too close".
Don't kick me to the curb yet. On vacation, but not permanently.
I've pushed to install roundabouts at most Rebuilt interchanges on 95 (and other freeways) to simplify the bridge construction (only two lanes on the bridge rather than needing a turn lane, plus more flexibility with alignment) and also to help with wrong-way drivers. Rural, unlit interchanges are particularly vulnerable; the roundabouts make it very tough to go the wrong way down a ramp.
Sorry, Jim. Been so long since the MTR days that I wasn't sure if you'd retired or not.
The bridge simplification you mention seems in full force with the planned rebuild at 50. IIRC the current bridge is 5 lanes, but the project layout shows 2 or 3 for the new bridge. I admit I was a bit surprised myself when I first saw that.
Quote from: froggie on August 12, 2021, 12:08:30 AM
Sorry, Jim. Been so long since the MTR days that I wasn't sure if you'd retired or not.
The bridge simplification you mention seems in full force with the planned rebuild at 50. IIRC the current bridge is 5 lanes, but the project layout shows 2 or 3 for the new bridge. I admit I was a bit surprised myself when I first saw that.
No problem - I CAN retire with full benefits; I'm sure some of the consultants out there would like me to! :-D
I've been trying to get "creative" with roundabouts, recognizing that it can act as a "hinge" for a road, meaning you don't need to maintain a straight line through the interchange. The interchange in Boardman on future I-74 that was just let is an example. We pushed the roundabout towards the East, so that the bridge can be more perpendicular to I-74, and avoid taking the only gas station in the area. By doing this, the bridge can be built mostly "off-line" and maintain the existing at grade intersection.
As mentioned, the roundabouts also allow narrower bridges, as the don't need turn lanes, saving costs.
Quote from: froggie on August 07, 2021, 10:21:18 AM
^ Those construction costs plus the major hits NCDOT's budget has taken in recent years (between hurricane damage and the Map Act fiasco) would also be a player in why a SPUI wasn't considered at 95/50. A SPUI would have considerably higher cost due to the large bridge requirements (especially with bridging over 8 lanes of 95).
Yeah you're right. i didn't think about the large x shape of the overpass like the ones on Capital Blvd at NC98 in Wake Forest. A lot of concrete.
Will one of you NCDOT employees get some new overheads in Raleigh? the sun has beaten them to unreadable status. Not a good look for Apple's next HQs.
It looks like the roundabout for the southbound side of the interchange at Exit 79 was scrapped? It's not in the final plans.
I-5986B Roadway Plans Sheet 42 (https://xfer.services.ncdot.gov/dsplan/2021%20Highway%20Letting/07-20-21/Plans%20and%20Proposals/HARNETT_JOHNSTON_47532.3.3_I-5986B,%20I-5878,%20I-5883C204543/Individual%20Sheets/100%20Roadway%20Plans/100_457_I5986B_Rdy_psh042.pdf)
Quote from: froggie on August 12, 2021, 12:08:30 AM
Sorry, Jim. Been so long since the MTR days that I wasn't sure if you'd retired or not.
The bridge simplification you mention seems in full force with the planned rebuild at 50. IIRC the current bridge is 5 lanes, but the project layout shows 2 or 3 for the new bridge. I admit I was a bit surprised myself when I first saw that.
As a Dunn NC Native, Exit 72 is getting kyboshed in lieu of Exit 73. 73 is going to be split with the old 72.
I got the sign plans if anybody wants them.
Also, tomorrow is the day they start construction so HEADS UP for anybody going for labor day. :pan:
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 09, 2021, 08:00:53 AM
Quote from: froggie on August 07, 2021, 10:21:18 AM
^ Those construction costs plus the major hits NCDOT's budget has taken in recent years (between hurricane damage and the Map Act fiasco) would also be a player in why a SPUI wasn't considered at 95/50. A SPUI would have considerably higher cost due to the large bridge requirements (especially with bridging over 8 lanes of 95).
The close proximity to South Walton seems like it would spoil the benefits of the SPUI too.
When they realigned Exit 79 in 2005, they killed not only Golden Corral, but Food Lion right next to it.
Quote from: snowc on August 29, 2021, 11:59:56 AM
Quote from: froggie on August 12, 2021, 12:08:30 AM
Sorry, Jim. Been so long since the MTR days that I wasn't sure if you'd retired or not.
The bridge simplification you mention seems in full force with the planned rebuild at 50. IIRC the current bridge is 5 lanes, but the project layout shows 2 or 3 for the new bridge. I admit I was a bit surprised myself when I first saw that.
As a Dunn NC Native, Exit 72 is getting kyboshed in lieu of Exit 73. 73 is going to be split with the old 72.
I got the sign plans if anybody wants them.
Also, tomorrow is the day they start construction so HEADS UP for anybody going for labor day. :pan:
I was over there a few days ago, and nothing happened. Not sure what they are waiting for... But all I know the Exit 72 interchange will be a dumbbell.
Quote from: snowc on August 29, 2021, 12:00:46 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 09, 2021, 08:00:53 AM
Quote from: froggie on August 07, 2021, 10:21:18 AM
^ Those construction costs plus the major hits NCDOT's budget has taken in recent years (between hurricane damage and the Map Act fiasco) would also be a player in why a SPUI wasn't considered at 95/50. A SPUI would have considerably higher cost due to the large bridge requirements (especially with bridging over 8 lanes of 95).
The close proximity to South Walton seems like it would spoil the benefits of the SPUI too.
When they realigned Exit 79 in 2005, they killed not only Golden Corral, but Food Lion right next to it.
I am sure no one is missing them, especially corporate of the former, as since Covid hit them hard to be closing some locations.
Quote from: snowc on August 29, 2021, 12:00:46 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 09, 2021, 08:00:53 AM
Quote from: froggie on August 07, 2021, 10:21:18 AM
^ Those construction costs plus the major hits NCDOT's budget has taken in recent years (between hurricane damage and the Map Act fiasco) would also be a player in why a SPUI wasn't considered at 95/50. A SPUI would have considerably higher cost due to the large bridge requirements (especially with bridging over 8 lanes of 95).
The close proximity to South Walton seems like it would spoil the benefits of the SPUI too.
When they realigned Exit 79 in 2005, they killed not only Golden Corral, but Food Lion right next to it.
Unless Google Maps is playing tricks on me, Food Lion is still there beside that exit.
Quote from: LM117 on September 12, 2021, 07:25:40 AM
Quote from: snowc on August 29, 2021, 12:00:46 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 09, 2021, 08:00:53 AM
Quote from: froggie on August 07, 2021, 10:21:18 AM
^ Those construction costs plus the major hits NCDOT's budget has taken in recent years (between hurricane damage and the Map Act fiasco) would also be a player in why a SPUI wasn't considered at 95/50. A SPUI would have considerably higher cost due to the large bridge requirements (especially with bridging over 8 lanes of 95).
The close proximity to South Walton seems like it would spoil the benefits of the SPUI too.
When they realigned Exit 79 in 2005, they killed not only Golden Corral, but Food Lion right next to it.
Unless Google Maps is playing tricks on me, Food Lion is still there beside that exit.
Nope. The other FL has turned into a Crossroads church. :rolleyes:
Was Food Lion "killed" or did they simply relocate to another site on the other side of the freeway?
Quote from: sprjus4 on September 12, 2021, 11:32:08 AM
Was Food Lion "killed" or did they simply relocate to another site on the other side of the freeway?
Relocated to Parrish Drive across the freeway. Did MORE business then the one over by Walton Ave
(https://storage13.openstreetcam.org/files/photo/2021/9/22/proc/3855005_d66300195b8abcc38ab375329f862d7c.jpg)
Signs are up for NEW exit 73, near exit 71.
Looks like construction is starting for I95 now! :colorful:
Quote from: snowc on September 27, 2021, 03:27:31 PM
(https://storage13.openstreetcam.org/files/photo/2021/9/22/proc/3855005_d66300195b8abcc38ab375329f862d7c.jpg)
Signs are up for NEW exit 73, near exit 71.
Looks like construction is starting for I95 now! :colorful:
I don't like how the street name is above the highway shields, who let that happen?
Quote from: I-55 on September 27, 2021, 09:11:28 PM
Quote from: snowc on September 27, 2021, 03:27:31 PM
(https://storage13.openstreetcam.org/files/photo/2021/9/22/proc/3855005_d66300195b8abcc38ab375329f862d7c.jpg)
Signs are up for NEW exit 73, near exit 71.
Looks like construction is starting for I95 now! :colorful:
I don't like how the street name is above the highway shields, who let that happen?
This is a split diamond interchange. And because Pope Rd comes first, that street name is above the highway shields. And on southbound I-95, it's vice versa. That sign doesn't look weird to me.
I-95 in Lumberton Will Be Widened, Modernized (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2021/2021-10-06-i-95-widening-lumberton.aspx)
QuoteLUMBERTON — A project is moving forward to widen to eight miles and upgrade Interstate 95 through Lumberton, thanks to a new contract.
The N.C. Department of Transportation approved a $432 million contract last week that will make this important stretch of I-95 safer, less congested and more resilient to future storms.
"This modernization is long overdue," said Grady Hunt, a state Transportation Board member who lives in Robeson County. "This vital corridor needs to be widened, but also upgraded to be more resilient against future hurricanes."
The design-build contract went to the Morrisville-based joint venture of Flatiron Constructors Inc. and United Infrastructure Group Inc.
The design-build contracting method is a more efficient way to deliver projects because it combines the design, environmental permitting, property acquisition, utility relocation and construction under one contract. This means the contracting and design team will finalize the design and right-of-way plans before construction can begin next summer.
The project entails widening the four-lane interstate into eight lanes (four lanes in each direction) between Exit 13 and just north of mile marker 21, and replacing bridges with taller, wider and longer spans at Exits 17, 19 and 20. The existing bridges at Exits 13 and 22 are newer and do not need to be replaced, and another contract to be awarded next year will widen the interstate north of mile marker 21.
In addition, the interstate bridges crossing the Lumber River will be replaced with a higher and longer bridge, and fill dirt will be brought in for other sections to raise the interstate grade and help avoid future flooding.
Interstate 95 at the Lumber River (near Exit 19) closed twice for several days from hurricanes Matthew and Florence floodwaters.
Two years ago, the NCDOT received a $22.5 million federal grant, known as the Better Utilizing Investments to Leverage Development (BUILD) program, to help upgrade the interstate after hurricane flooding. The rest of the money to pay for the project comes from the department's Highway Trust Fund and other federal sources commonly used for highway construction.
By the end of the year, safety improvements will be completed on the existing I-95 concrete median barrier. However, the interstate widening will not begin until next summer, when additional concrete barriers will be installed in the median and along the shoulders to create a safe work zone. The interstate's four lanes will remain open in the daytime during construction; some lanes, however, will be temporarily reduced for overnight construction.
The improvements to these eight miles are scheduled to be completed by the late summer of 2026. Visit this NCDOT project page to learn other details, look at the design maps and watch videos depicting the scope of work.
The NCDOT is widening other sections of I-95 north of Fayetteville. Go to this corridor page to learn more.
https://twitter.com/NCDOT_Fayville/status/1445858181238906884
^^^^
Did see that and that was posted in the "North Carolina" thread, and it's great news that they are fixing that section! It definitely needs to be done so it can be more resistant to future storms and can hold more traffic.
I wish someone could quickly highlight the sections of I-95 that are being rebuilt on a map and post.
It would be nice to see how much of the route will be 8 lanes and nice by the end of this decade.
Quote from: architect77 on October 15, 2021, 06:02:29 PM
I wish someone could quickly highlight the sections of I-95 that are being rebuilt on a map and post.
It would be nice to see how much of the route will be 8 lanes and nice by the end of this decade.
Exit 10-40 and 56-81 (I-74 to Bus. 95 south connection, and Bus. 95 north connection to I-40 - hope I remembered the exit numbers correctly.) All of this will be eight lanes.
From 0-10 and 40-56, feasibility studies have been started to get costs for submittal for prioritization. Don't think I'll see those sections built, though.
Quote from: architect77 on October 15, 2021, 06:02:29 PM
I wish someone could quickly highlight the sections of I-95 that are being rebuilt on a map and post.
(https://i.ibb.co/2MLzPzC/95-Widening-NC.png)
Roughly 53 miles of the 182 miles through the state is currently being widened from 4 to 8 lanes, close to 30% of its entire length.
I saw on some website saying that I-95 between exits 40 and 56 will be widened to 8 lanes. The new bridges just south of Kenly are definitely long enough to accommodate that many lanes.
I was thinking that would be better for the Fayetteville bypass than north of I-40, but it's whatever.
THANK YOU for the MAP GRAPHIC!
We got some good news everyone! :clap:
I-95 has BEGUN working on! Praise the lord!
Trees have been cleared and it looks like from the 50s all over again!
Pics are uploading to KV and will be posted here later.
Oct 2021 Street View on parts of I-95 have been posted. (As you get closer to Dunn, it still has the 2019 street view)
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1587703,-78.7165002,3a,75y,344.27h,87.63t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sJgFsFcsW_vOIqU1kMPxQKw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DJgFsFcsW_vOIqU1kMPxQKw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D137.93478%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192
When looking at this document, it shows that I-95 near Roanoke Rapids will be widened to 8 lanes. I wonder if they are still considering it... I know this is not an I-95 project but if you scroll down and look at the number of lanes, you can see what I'm talking about.
https://connect.ncdot.gov/projects/planning/FeasibilityStudiesDocuments/Feasibility-Study_0204F_Report_2010.pdf
Dec 2021 Street View around Dunn. They are doing a great job clearing the trees.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2977977,-78.599966,3a,39.4y,59.67h,90.9t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sL0JMAC5wY1MuKnxiD13Nxg!2e0!5s20211201T000000!7i16384!8i8192
To add, this is the Long Branch Road overpass.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2702001,-78.6169458,3a,75y,14.67h,96.36t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sYXr-B6dBC1qHeXD47nTSRA!2e0!5s20211201T000000!7i16384!8i8192
Quote from: jdunlop on August 11, 2021, 11:59:24 PM
I've pushed to install roundabouts at most Rebuilt interchanges on 95 (and other freeways) to simplify the bridge construction (only two lanes on the bridge rather than needing a turn lane, plus more flexibility with alignment) and also to help with wrong-way drivers. Rural, unlit interchanges are particularly vulnerable; the roundabouts make it very tough to go the wrong way down a ramp.
Benefits like that I can understand. During one road trip with my family, my father made a lot of wrong way turns down off-ramps before my mother and I talked him into turning around.
Quote from: snowc on August 29, 2021, 11:59:56 AM
Also, tomorrow is the day they start construction so HEADS UP for anybody going for labor day. :pan:
Wikipedia is still claiming 2026 and 2027 for these projects.
Note: If they are planning to widen I-95 in Johnston County (yes north of I-40) to 8 lanes instead of 6 lanes, then these bridges would need to be replaced as they are not wide enough to accommodate 8 through lanes of I-95.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3895468,-78.5192829,766m/data=!3m1!1e3
However, this interchange and the bridge length is fine. It was built in the mid 2000s and can accommodate 8 through lanes of I-95.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4394875,-78.4198812,234m/data=!3m1!1e3
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 04, 2022, 05:17:19 PM
Note: If they are planning to widen I-95 in Johnston County (yes north of I-40) to 8 lanes instead of 6 lanes, then these bridges would need to be replaced as they are not wide enough to accommodate 8 through lanes of I-95.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3895468,-78.5192829,766m/data=!3m1!1e3
However, this interchange and the bridge length is fine. It was built in the mid 2000s and can accommodate 8 through lanes of I-95.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4394875,-78.4198812,234m/data=!3m1!1e3
Well, since I received an email earlier today about a feasibility study meeting coming up on I-95 in Johnston County, thanks for doing some of my work for me, checking these bridges! (No, I don't know if any decision has been made re: 6 vs. 8. My guess is we'll price out both.)
Quote from: jdunlop on January 05, 2022, 05:52:22 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 04, 2022, 05:17:19 PM
Note: If they are planning to widen I-95 in Johnston County (yes north of I-40) to 8 lanes instead of 6 lanes, then these bridges would need to be replaced as they are not wide enough to accommodate 8 through lanes of I-95.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3895468,-78.5192829,766m/data=!3m1!1e3
However, this interchange and the bridge length is fine. It was built in the mid 2000s and can accommodate 8 through lanes of I-95.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4394875,-78.4198812,234m/data=!3m1!1e3
Well, since I received an email earlier today about a feasibility study meeting coming up on I-95 in Johnston County, thanks for doing some of my work for me, checking these bridges! (No, I don't know if any decision has been made re: 6 vs. 8. My guess is we'll price out both.)
You're welcome! Btw, when is the feasibility study going to be done?
And I feel like they did that on purpose because it could be for a future toll lane but who knows. I-95 in Johnston County (north of I-40) is roughly 41,000 AADT so 6 lanes would be enough.
^ I doubt toll lanes would've been planned back in the 1990s.
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 05, 2022, 06:43:46 PM
Quote from: jdunlop on January 05, 2022, 05:52:22 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 04, 2022, 05:17:19 PM
Note: If they are planning to widen I-95 in Johnston County (yes north of I-40) to 8 lanes instead of 6 lanes, then these bridges would need to be replaced as they are not wide enough to accommodate 8 through lanes of I-95.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3895468,-78.5192829,766m/data=!3m1!1e3
However, this interchange and the bridge length is fine. It was built in the mid 2000s and can accommodate 8 through lanes of I-95.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4394875,-78.4198812,234m/data=!3m1!1e3
Well, since I received an email earlier today about a feasibility study meeting coming up on I-95 in Johnston County, thanks for doing some of my work for me, checking these bridges! (No, I don't know if any decision has been made re: 6 vs. 8. My guess is we'll price out both.)
You're welcome! Btw, when is the feasibility study going to be done?
And I feel like they did that on purpose because it could be for a future toll lane but who knows. I-95 in Johnston County (north of I-40) is roughly 41,000 AADT so 6 lanes would be enough.
It's a kickoff meeting, so no schedule listed yet. Probably a 3-4 month time frame. It's primarily to get a cost estimate for prioritization purposes.
A similar effort is underway for the section south of I-74 and the section between the two business 95 connections (MM 40-58 IIRC.)
What are the limits of widening north of I-40?
Quote from: sprjus4 on January 05, 2022, 10:47:15 PM
What are the limits of widening north of I-40?
I would think up to US 301 at Kenly would be a good stopping point for the time being. That's where the more modern section ends and the roadway pulls away from the more established and developed 301 corridor a little bit. Personally I've never been caught in heavy traffic along that stretch that wasn't construction-related.
Quote from: wriddle082 on January 05, 2022, 11:23:47 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on January 05, 2022, 10:47:15 PM
What are the limits of widening north of I-40?
I would think up to US 301 at Kenly would be a good stopping point for the time being. That's where the more modern section ends and the roadway pulls away from the more established and developed 301 corridor a little bit. Personally I've never been caught in heavy traffic along that stretch that wasn't construction-related.
Have to agree. I assume it would go to Kenly because it's one of the first sections of the highway built.
Quote from: sprjus4 on January 05, 2022, 10:47:15 PM
What are the limits of widening north of I-40?
Up to 70 bus. There's already an express design starting there for the 42 interchange.
I see no sense in widening I-40 in NC when it doesn't serve the local interest much.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on January 06, 2022, 10:15:18 AM
I see no sense in widening I-40 in NC when it doesn't serve the local interest much.
NCDOT clearly prioritized widening I-85 and I-40 for years because those roads do serve local interest more than I-95. But folks in the I-95 corridor (Lumberton, Fayetteville, Wilson, Rocky Mount) certainly think they have a local interest in improvements to I-95. They've had to wait a long time but finally their time is coming.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on January 06, 2022, 10:15:18 AM
I see no sense in widening I-40 in NC when it doesn't serve the local interest much.
I-40 serves Wilmington, Raleigh, Durham, Greensboro, Winston-Salem, Asheville...
so what would you classify as local interest then?
Also this post is in regards to I-95 widening - which is sorely needed - not I-40. You're in the wrong thread.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on January 06, 2022, 10:15:18 AM
I see no sense in widening I-40 in NC when it doesn't serve the local interest much.
Lol. 40 and 85 are the most used by locals for intercity travel. Maybe you meant 95?
Quote from: wdcrft63 on January 06, 2022, 06:25:21 PM
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on January 06, 2022, 10:15:18 AM
I see no sense in widening I-40 in NC when it doesn't serve the local interest much.
NCDOT clearly prioritized widening I-85 and I-40 for years because those roads do serve local interest more than I-95. But folks in the I-95 corridor (Lumberton, Fayetteville, Wilson, Rocky Mount) certainly think they have a local interest in improvements to I-95. They've had to wait a long time but finally their time is coming.
And we don't want NC to have the worst section of the nation's premiere interstate highway, I-95.
Virginia needs more lanes between Richmond and D.C., but overall it still appears to be a nicer section of I-95 than NC's old, 4-lane relic.
I realize that South of Petersburg it still may be like that in Southern VA, but other than SC's section, NC's is about the the worst along the entirety of the interstate.
I-40 seems to not have much out-of-state traffic unlike I-85, sorta similar to US64 which is so long within the state than there's not much use for it by out-of-staters.
Quote from: architect77 on January 07, 2022, 08:02:42 PM
I realize that South of Petersburg it still may be like that in Southern VA, but other than SC's section, NC's is about the the worst along the entirety of the interstate.
The SC section of 95 may be the worst section of interstate I have ever been on. The I-26/I-95 interchange was built and then hasn't been touched since.
Quote from: fillup420 on January 08, 2022, 09:46:48 AM
Quote from: architect77 on January 07, 2022, 08:02:42 PM
I realize that South of Petersburg it still may be like that in Southern VA, but other than SC's section, NC's is about the the worst along the entirety of the interstate.
The SC section of 95 may be the worst section of interstate I have ever been on. The I-26/I-95 interchange was built and then hasn't been touched since.
Design-wise, with the exception of the 26/95 cloverleaf, 95 in SC isn't too terrible, as most of it was built in the 70's. Maintenance-wise, it is the overall absolute worst interstate in the state, with Hampton and Colleton Counties being exceptionally bad.
Also to chime in on the last two, you also have the same design interchange at US 15 and I-26. Two of the same exchange for the meeting of two completely different road types.
Quote from: fillup420 on January 08, 2022, 09:46:48 AM
Quote from: architect77 on January 07, 2022, 08:02:42 PM
I realize that South of Petersburg it still may be like that in Southern VA, but other than SC's section, NC's is about the the worst along the entirety of the interstate.
The SC section of 95 may be the worst section of interstate I have ever been on. The I-26/I-95 interchange was built and then hasn't been touched since.
I've never had a problem going thru the interchange. Are you more perturbed it's a cloverleaf than actually having issues travelling thru the area?
The movements between I-95 North and I-26 West, and I-95 South and I-26 East are busy enough to warrant flyovers.
The problem isn't for through traffic on I-95 as much, it's those movements. I've seen backups for exiting traffic in the past, particularly on busier weekends.
Quote from: roadman65 on January 08, 2022, 10:32:44 AM
Also to chime in on the last two, you also have the same design interchange at US 15 and I-26. Two of the same exchange for the meeting of two completely different road types.
As I had just stated in the South Carolina thread, the US 15 cloverleaf is a lot older than I-95. Until I-95 was built, US 15 was the only route. Therefore at the time it warranted a cloverleaf, but now it most certainly does not. Or maybe SCDOT had higher hopes for the Holly Hill area in general that never panned out.
Quote from: sprjus4 on January 08, 2022, 10:48:59 AM
The movements between I-95 North and I-26 West, and I-95 South and I-26 East are busy enough to warrant flyovers.
The problem isn't for through traffic on I-95 as much, it's those movements. I've seen backups for exiting traffic in the past, particularly on busier weekends.
If we're talking busier weekends only, there may not be much justification to spending the money for flyovers for a handful of weekends.
If SC decides to widen 95, then they can give that a much closer look.
SCDOT is actively studying widening a significant portion of I-26, including improvements to the I-95 interchange.
Quote from: sprjus4 on January 08, 2022, 10:48:59 AM
The movements between I-95 North and I-26 West, and I-95 South and I-26 East are busy enough to warrant flyovers.
The problem isn't for through traffic on I-95 as much, it's those movements. I've seen backups for exiting traffic in the past, particularly on busier weekends.
No idea what traffic counts are needed to warrant a flyover but the figures for these two movements:
95 NB to 26 WB: 14,000 (2020), up from 9,300 (2018)
95 SB to 26 EB: 5,700 (2020), up from 4,100 (2018)
Source: https://scdottrafficdata.drakewell.com/publicmultinodemap.asp
With the new Volvo plant near Ridgeville, I expect the 95 SB to 26 EB traffic to increase.
Sorry if people can't see my photos.
Flickr is NOT working at the moment. :ded:
EDIT: I was trying to upload my I95 photos from last Christmas, but it says Uploading failed. on Flickr. :colorful:
Quote from: sprjus4 on January 08, 2022, 11:26:03 AM
SCDOT is actively studying widening a significant portion of I-26, including improvements to the I-95 interchange.
Also provides a pleasantly sounded bridge over the Pee-Dee river. :-D :D
Wouldn't a flyover ramp be warranted from I-95 south to US-264 East/I-795 south?
Regarding I-95 in SC, it's certainly not as bad over there as it is here near Fayetteville and Lumberton.
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 08, 2022, 03:39:21 PM
Wouldn't a flyover ramp be warranted from I-95 south to US-264 East/I-795 south?
Regarding I-95 in SC, it's certainly not as bad over there as it is here near Fayetteville and Lumberton.
The concrete pavement is very rough from about Yemassee to about Canadys. Basically all of Hampton and Colleton Counties.
Quote from: wriddle082 on January 08, 2022, 08:03:07 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 08, 2022, 03:39:21 PM
Wouldn't a flyover ramp be warranted from I-95 south to US-264 East/I-795 south?
Regarding I-95 in SC, it's certainly not as bad over there as it is here near Fayetteville and Lumberton.
The concrete pavement is very rough from about Yemassee to about Canadys. Basically all of Hampton and Colleton Counties.
Was up that way last month and didn’t even notice the rough concrete there.
Did notice though in Kenly, NC that the bridge carrying Truck Stop Road over I-95 was replaced with a newer one to accommodate future widening of the freeway.
Quote from: roadman65 on January 08, 2022, 10:19:02 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on January 08, 2022, 08:03:07 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 08, 2022, 03:39:21 PM
Wouldn't a flyover ramp be warranted from I-95 south to US-264 East/I-795 south?
Regarding I-95 in SC, it's certainly not as bad over there as it is here near Fayetteville and Lumberton.
The concrete pavement is very rough from about Yemassee to about Canadys. Basically all of Hampton and Colleton Counties.
Was up that way last month and didn't even notice the rough concrete there.
Did notice though in Kenly, NC that the bridge carrying Truck Stop Road over I-95 was replaced with a newer one to accommodate future widening of the freeway.
I saw that too, and I remember taking pictures from when they were starting the widening. So naturally, I saw all the construction taking place between Fayetteville and Benson on this past trip. I even saw the Sunset Avenue interchange extension to Exit 138.
As for South Carolina, I didn't pay too much attention to the pavement condition. I was more focused on the traffic jam that caused me and other drivers to take detours onto the frontage between Exits 22 and 33, and US 17 and 21 in both directions.
CLARIFICATION NOTE: I didn't actually take the frontage road this time, but others did. I
did take the detour on US 17 and 21 though.
Another thing I didn't notice when traveling through Dunn. Is Pope Road exit SB still open? I know it's supposed to close in favor of service roads to connect to it via US 421 and NC 55 to eliminate the weaving issues between the two ramps, but I could swear it was closed, but still not sure.
Quote from: roadman65 on January 09, 2022, 11:05:08 PM
Another thing I didn't notice when traveling through Dunn. Is Pope Road exit SB still open? I know it's supposed to close in favor of service roads to connect to it via US 421 and NC 55 to eliminate the weaving issues between the two ramps, but I could swear it was closed, but still not sure.
I think it is closed. I'll be going through there a week from tomorrow so I can verify.
Quote from: fillup420 on January 08, 2022, 09:46:48 AM
Quote from: architect77 on January 07, 2022, 08:02:42 PM
I realize that South of Petersburg it still may be like that in Southern VA, but other than SC's section, NC's is about the the worst along the entirety of the interstate.
The SC section of 95 may be the worst section of interstate I have ever been on. The I-26/I-95 interchange was built and then hasn't been touched since.
Actually it is very nice if you like parking lots. But if you want to travel at a constant speed it is horrible. But there are those here who will point out that the road is perfectly adequate for the traffic volume and that holiday travel/traffic jams are only an occasional anomaly. Both I-95 from Georgia to I-26 and I-26 from I-95 west to the current three-lane section need additional lanes, along with a rebuild of the I-26 interchange for south to west movement.
Quote from: wriddle082 on January 09, 2022, 11:07:36 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 09, 2022, 11:05:08 PM
Another thing I didn't notice when traveling through Dunn. Is Pope Road exit SB still open? I know it's supposed to close in favor of service roads to connect to it via US 421 and NC 55 to eliminate the weaving issues between the two ramps, but I could swear it was closed, but still not sure.
I think it is closed. I'll be going through there a week from tomorrow so I can verify.
I drove 95 SB through NC yesterday. There is no substantive work at exits 72-73 and exit configurations remain as they have been for years.
Quote from: sprjus4 on May 30, 2020, 04:36:22 AM
Regarding the first project, Exit 56 to Exit 81, NCDOT has released revised interchange designs for Exit 61, 65, 55, and 58.
(https://poll.cityzenapp.us/img/cn9ov8jwd4dxk0gsztfq_1600_1008.JPG)
(https://poll.cityzenapp.us/img/yxotnaohl0i1nasaushk_1600_1035.JPG)
https://poll.cityzenapp.us/7963/
Despite plans for the 8 lane bridge for the Murphy Road Interchange, it won't be built. Current plans show that it will just be a culvert. Same thing with Murphy Road.
As seen in this proposal, I-95 north of I-40 to US-70 Business (possibly to Kenly) is planned to be expanded to 8 lanes.
https://ncdot.maps.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?layers=8623ff32a0a249c79a106dfb12dc83b2
Going to require replacing all of the bridges including the ones that I-40 intersects.
Also, in Dortches, will also be 8 lanes. Bridges may have to be replaced depending on the median width. If it's less than 70 feet, then yes.
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 04, 2022, 05:17:19 PM
However, this interchange and the bridge length is fine. It was built in the mid 2000s and can accommodate 8 through lanes of I-95.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4394875,-78.4198812,234m/data=!3m1!1e3
That interchange replaced the old Four Oaks interchange that was just south of there, I think to Hockaday Mill Road.
Quote from: Finrod on January 30, 2022, 05:20:09 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 04, 2022, 05:17:19 PM
However, this interchange and the bridge length is fine. It was built in the mid 2000s and can accommodate 8 through lanes of I-95.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4394875,-78.4198812,234m/data=!3m1!1e3
That interchange replaced the old Four Oaks interchange that was just south of there, I think to Hockaday Mill Road.
Both interchanges were half diamonds.
Skip to pages 29, and 30 and the 8 lane bridge (the bridge will be built to accommodate 10 lanes) for Reese Creek is back, once again!
Same thing with Murphy Road going over it, as seen in pages 43 and 44.
https://xfer.services.ncdot.gov/pdea/PermApps/I-5986A%20Individual%20Modification%20Cumberland%20County%20February%201%202022.pdf
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 30, 2022, 07:12:37 AM
Quote from: Finrod on January 30, 2022, 05:20:09 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 04, 2022, 05:17:19 PM
However, this interchange and the bridge length is fine. It was built in the mid 2000s and can accommodate 8 through lanes of I-95.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4394875,-78.4198812,234m/data=!3m1!1e3
That interchange replaced the old Four Oaks interchange that was just south of there, I think to Hockaday Mill Road.
Both interchanges were half diamonds.
Does anybody have any images of the old Hockaday Mill Road ramps? All I was able to get is the abandoned ramp right-of-ways.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 23, 2022, 10:25:05 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 30, 2022, 07:12:37 AM
Quote from: Finrod on January 30, 2022, 05:20:09 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 04, 2022, 05:17:19 PM
However, this interchange and the bridge length is fine. It was built in the mid 2000s and can accommodate 8 through lanes of I-95.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4394875,-78.4198812,234m/data=!3m1!1e3
That interchange replaced the old Four Oaks interchange that was just south of there, I think to Hockaday Mill Road.
Both interchanges were half diamonds.
Does anybody have any images of the old Hockaday Mill Road ramps? All I was able to get is the abandoned ramp right-of-ways.
Historic Aerials has images of the 2 half-diamonds.
Vintage Aerials, which would have closer in shots does not have any of that area that show any part of either diamond.
Plans have been released for the NC 20 and the US 301 Parkton interchanges.
signage plans (https://xfer.services.ncdot.gov/dsplan/2022%20Highway%20Letting/07-19-22/Plans%20and%20Proposals/ROBESON_47533.3.3_I-5987B_C204728/Standard%20PDF%20Files/250%20SIGNING%20PLANS.pdf) show the following:
The NC 20 interchange will have a single peanut-shaped roundabout to receive off ramps from both directions of I-95.
Also signage plans show the speed limit will be raised to 70.
The US 301 interchange will still be signed on BGSs as TO NC 71 but there are no NC 71 signs at the top of the ramp. This interchange will have individual roundabouts on both sides of I-95.
Does anybody know if the northbound Interstate 95 rest area in Johnston County is finished being rebuilt? Nothing on NCDOT's website is telling me anything.
New progress updates on the widenings and bridge replacements.
https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-07-18-harnett-county-bridge-rebuilt-over-I-95.aspx (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-07-18-harnett-county-bridge-rebuilt-over-I-95.aspx)
^ The news release mentions the first contract (Exit 55 to 71) is about halfway complete, with completion on schedule for 2025.
Exit 71 to 81 will be complete by 2026.
I'm not sure the status on Exit 40 to 22 or Exit 22 to 13. Nothing was visibly under construction or an active construction driving through a few weeks ago.
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 18, 2022, 11:40:35 AM
^ The news release mentions the first contract (Exit 55 to 71) is about halfway complete, with completion on schedule for 2025.
Exit 71 to 81 will be complete by 2026.
I'm not sure the status on Exit 40 to 22 or Exit 22 to 13. Nothing was visibly under construction or an active construction driving through a few weeks ago.
One segment (I-5987B) is being let
tomorrow (MM 29-37). The next segment south of there to MM 21 (I-5987A) was scheduled to be let next month, but has been delayed to September. The design-build segment through Lumberton that was awarded last year is supposed to start construction this summer.
NCDOT has delayed the completion for the major highway projects in Wake County (I-40 and I-440 widening, Triangle Expressway), and one of the reasons they cited was not enough workers and too many big projects concentrated in one area. I wonder if the same thing will happen with all of the I-95 widening work going on simultaneously and an even smaller pool of workers....
Just finished driving on I-95 from Georgia to Virginia. And I was very surprised that such an important artery from the NE to Florida is not three lanes in each direction.
Being from Texas and enjoying the three laned I-35 from the metroplex to the San Antonio, I guess it works for 95 due to less truck traffic than on I-35.
Drove through the construction area, the right of way did not look wide enough for four lanes per side.
Quote from: longhorn on July 26, 2022, 07:17:10 PM
Just finished driving on I-95 from Georgia to Virginia. And I was very surprised that such an important artery from the NE to Florida is not three lanes in each direction.
Being from Texas and enjoying the three laned I-35 from the metroplex to the San Antonio, I guess it works for 95 due to less truck traffic than on I-35.
Drove through the construction area, the right of way did not look wide enough for four lanes per side.
North Carolina has spent the last 25 years widening interstates that are used by the state's residents. I-95 has been the lowest priority since it is used more by out-of-staters going to Florida from the Northeast.
Now they are finally getting around to rebuilding I-95 through the state to 8 lanes and modern standards. The work will be done in sections and likely continue over the next 30 years or longer.
Quote from: architect77 on July 29, 2022, 06:37:06 PM
North Carolina has spent the last 25 years widening interstates that are used by the state's residents. I-95 has been the lowest priority since it is used more by out-of-staters going to Florida from the Northeast.
Now they are finally getting around to rebuilding I-95 through the state to 8 lanes and modern standards. The work will be done in sections and likely continue over the next 30 years or longer.
I think NCDOT was wise to prioritize other interstates over I-95, specifically I-85. 85 is much more important to the state as a whole than 95. As an NC resident, I use 85 the most out of all the interstates here, with 40 being the second most. I can count on one hand the times I have been on 95 in the past five years. Now I know that's not the case for all NC residents, but the 95 corridor is sparsely populated compared to the rest of the state. 95 is definitely a long-haul road mostly serving the snowbirds heading to and from Florida. So why would I want my taxes to go towards making their trip easier? 95 passes through zero notable cities in NC, so it has always been low on the priority list. 85 was woefully undersized from Charlotte to Greensboro twenty years ago, and now that all the expansion work is done, it's an easy trip on a wide and modern highway.
I am surprised that I-95 isn't going to be tolled to fund improvements. I would've supported tolls at the state lines, which would allow locals to use the road like normal, while charging out-of-state drivers for the privilege of using 95 through NC. I have also had the idea that NC and SC should work together to improve the corridor with tolls, since both states are just "fly-over" states for the route as a whole. The only business gained from the 95 corridor in both states is gas and fast food, so state line tolls at SC/GA and NC/VA would be a major benefit for road improvements.
Quote from: fillup420 on July 30, 2022, 12:33:48 PM
I think NCDOT was wise to prioritize other interstates over I-95, specifically I-85. 85 is much more important to the state as a whole than 95. As an NC resident, I use 85 the most out of all the interstates here, with 40 being the second most. I can count on one hand the times I have been on 95 in the past five years. Now I know that's not the case for all NC residents, but the 95 corridor is sparsely populated compared to the rest of the state. 95 is definitely a long-haul road mostly serving the snowbirds heading to and from Florida. So why would I want my taxes to go towards making their trip easier? 95 passes through zero notable cities in NC, so it has always been low on the priority list. 85 was woefully undersized from Charlotte to Greensboro twenty years ago, and now that all the expansion work is done, it's an easy trip on a wide and modern highway.
I am surprised that I-95 isn't going to be tolled to fund improvements. I would've supported tolls at the state lines, which would allow locals to use the road like normal, while charging out-of-state drivers for the privilege of using 95 through NC. I have also had the idea that NC and SC should work together to improve the corridor with tolls, since both states are just "fly-over" states for the route as a whole. The only business gained from the 95 corridor in both states is gas and fast food, so state line tolls at SC/GA and NC/VA would be a major benefit for road improvements.
I-95 carries a TON of truck traffic, and guess what trucks pay apportioned taxes so that truck traffic will be helping to pay for the I-95 expansion. Trucks pay a lot more taxes than four wheelers. It's open to debate whether they pay enough to cover the additional wear and tear, but you might be surprised to find out how much of NCDoT's budget comes from trucks.
https://www.roadsbridges.com/road-construction/article/10654344/strategic-planning-and-collaboration-help-keep-i-95-road-widening-work-in-north-carolina-on-track
David
8 lane expansion?, impressive. Thats similar to where I-40 shares with I-85 and it becomes eight lanes.
I have heard horror stories of I-95 becoming a parking lot in North Carolina, just as I -95 becomes a parking lot for no reason half way between Richmond and DC (and its six lanes). Maybe I was fortunate traveling on Sunday morning but it was uneventful till we reached the construction zone.
Nice to know easterners have fallen in love with Buccees at Florence SC, as we have in Texas. But OH MY.....It was like Black Friday at Walmart!!!!
Quote from: fillup420 on July 30, 2022, 12:33:48 PMI am surprised that I-95 isn't going to be tolled to fund improvements.
It was proposed about 10 years ago, but the idea was quickly dropped after eastern NC, in no uncertain terms, let everyone know how they felt about it. I-95 goes through some of the poorest areas of the state, which means instant political suicide for any politician that might support it. Towns along I-95 were also strongly opposed to tolls since they were worried that traffic would use US-301 as a shunpike route.
Quote from: longhorn on August 01, 2022, 12:12:57 PM
Nice to know easterners have fallen in love with Buccees at Florence SC, as we have in Texas. But OH MY.....It was like Black Friday at Walmart!!!!
We stopped at the Buc-ee's at Daytona Beach in Florida on a Sunday in June and Black Friday at Walmart had nothing on that place. Maybe add in Target and Best Buy on a good Black Friday and you might come close to the level of activity in that place.
Quote from: VTGoose on August 02, 2022, 11:42:34 AM
Quote from: longhorn on August 01, 2022, 12:12:57 PM
Nice to know easterners have fallen in love with Buccees at Florence SC, as we have in Texas. But OH MY.....It was like Black Friday at Walmart!!!!
We stopped at the Buc-ee's at Daytona Beach in Florida on a Sunday in June and Black Friday at Walmart had nothing on that place. Maybe add in Target and Best Buy on a good Black Friday and you might come close to the level of activity in that place.
Seems to me like a good reason to avoid it, honestly.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on August 02, 2022, 02:34:58 PM
Quote from: VTGoose on August 02, 2022, 11:42:34 AM
Quote from: longhorn on August 01, 2022, 12:12:57 PM
Nice to know easterners have fallen in love with Buccees at Florence SC, as we have in Texas. But OH MY.....It was like Black Friday at Walmart!!!!
We stopped at the Buc-ee's at Daytona Beach in Florida on a Sunday in June and Black Friday at Walmart had nothing on that place. Maybe add in Target and Best Buy on a good Black Friday and you might come close to the level of activity in that place.
Seems to me like a good reason to avoid it, honestly.
I live a few miles from where the first NC location would've been; along I-40/85 in Efland just before the split. The county planners asked Bucees to scale it down by 1/3, so 80 gas pumps instead of 120, and eliminate car wash. In response, Bucees pulled out. Most locals are happy that the monstrosity won't be built.
Quote from: fillup420 on August 02, 2022, 03:42:15 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on August 02, 2022, 02:34:58 PM
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Nice to know easterners have fallen in love with Buccees at Florence SC, as we have in Texas. But OH MY.....It was like Black Friday at Walmart!!!!
We stopped at the Buc-ee's at Daytona Beach in Florida on a Sunday in June and Black Friday at Walmart had nothing on that place. Maybe add in Target and Best Buy on a good Black Friday and you might come close to the level of activity in that place.
Seems to me like a good reason to avoid it, honestly.
I live a few miles from where the first NC location would've been; along I-40/85 in Efland just before the split. The county planners asked Bucees to scale it down by 1/3, so 80 gas pumps instead of 120, and eliminate car wash. In response, Bucees pulled out. Most locals are happy that the monstrosity won't be built.
Most locals are happy their mom and pop businesses don't have to compete with $14/hr
Quote from: LM117 on August 01, 2022, 04:26:57 PM
Quote from: fillup420 on July 30, 2022, 12:33:48 PMI am surprised that I-95 isn't going to be tolled to fund improvements.
It was proposed about 10 years ago, but the idea was quickly dropped after eastern NC, in no uncertain terms, let everyone know how they felt about it. I-95 goes through some of the poorest areas of the state, which means instant political suicide for any politician that might support it. Towns along I-95 were also strongly opposed to tolls since they were worried that traffic would use US-301 as a shunpike route.
The proposal was idiotic. Instead of putting one $5 toll entering NC at each border, the plan was multiple toll pay locations within the state that trapped locals into paying for short trips.
With tolls being ubiquitous from D.C. Northward just for the hell of collecting some money without any new construction, NY to Florida travelers wouldn't have batted an eye at a $5 NC toll contribution to rebuild what now is an aged, dangerous and deadly section of I-95
NCDOT has awarded the contract to widen I-95 to 8 lanes in Robeson County, to be finished by 2026:
https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-08-09-i-95-widening-robeson.aspx (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-08-09-i-95-widening-robeson.aspx)
Quote from: architect77 on August 02, 2022, 06:34:00 PM
The proposal was idiotic. Instead of putting one $5 toll entering NC at each border,
I can't help but think that this sort of thing is a bad idea. I'm glad that it wasn't implemented.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on August 09, 2022, 02:11:46 PM
I can't help but think that this sort of thing is a bad idea. I'm glad that it wasn't implemented.
*cough* Delaware
Quote from: NJRoadfan on August 09, 2022, 04:17:16 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on August 09, 2022, 02:11:46 PM
I can't help but think that this sort of thing is a bad idea. I'm glad that it wasn't implemented.
*cough* Delaware
Still beats the George Washington Bridge:
https://www.panynj.gov/bridges-tunnels/en/tolls.html
Quote from: sprjus4 on October 07, 2021, 04:43:04 PM
I-95 in Lumberton Will Be Widened, Modernized (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2021/2021-10-06-i-95-widening-lumberton.aspx)
Work begins this week.
https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-09-12-i-95-widening-lumberton.aspx (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-09-12-i-95-widening-lumberton.aspx)
Quote from: LM117 on September 12, 2022, 03:00:36 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on October 07, 2021, 04:43:04 PM
I-95 in Lumberton Will Be Widened, Modernized (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2021/2021-10-06-i-95-widening-lumberton.aspx)
Work begins this week.
https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-09-12-i-95-widening-lumberton.aspx (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-09-12-i-95-widening-lumberton.aspx)
Hopefully they'll raise the speed limit to 79 mph.
Quote from: roadman65 on September 17, 2022, 11:12:12 AM
Quote from: LM117 on September 12, 2022, 03:00:36 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on October 07, 2021, 04:43:04 PM
I-95 in Lumberton Will Be Widened, Modernized (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2021/2021-10-06-i-95-widening-lumberton.aspx)
Work begins this week.
https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-09-12-i-95-widening-lumberton.aspx (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-09-12-i-95-widening-lumberton.aspx)
Hopefully they'll raise the speed limit to 79 mph.
Perhaps not 79 mph, but they will most likely increase the speed limit to 70 mph throughout all the widening between I-40 and I-74. The only segment not being expanded is the Fayetteville Bypass which already (and is currently the only part) posted at 70 mph.
The design speed of the project is 75 mph according to documents, so I imagine 70 mph will be the result, and if not, then 65 mph for some months before getting raised.
Quote from: roadman65 on September 17, 2022, 11:12:12 AM
Hopefully they'll raise the speed limit to 79 mph.
If that's a snarky slap at us railway signal guys, I like it. Except that I doubt that there are any 79MPH speed restrictions still left in the United States.
^ I believe the Northeast Regional between Norfolk and Richmond tops out at 79 mph along most of the route.
Passenger trains are restricted to 79 mph nationally except for a few routes like the Northeast Corridor, Keystone Corridor and a couple of spots in Illinois and Michigan.
Project signing plans show a posted speed of 70 mph along the Robeson County stretch south of Fayetteville, and 65 mph north of Fayetteville. Not all projects have plans available since they're design-build projects (e.g., Lumberton).
I-5987A 1 of 2 (https://xfer.services.ncdot.gov/dsplan/2022%20Highway%20Letting/09-20-22/Plans%20and%20Proposals/ROBESON_47533.3.2_I-5987A_C204727/Standard%20PDF%20Files/250%20Signing%20Plans.pdf) ± MM 21-29
I-5987A 2 of 2 (https://xfer.services.ncdot.gov/dsplan/2022%20Highway%20Letting/09-20-22/Plans%20and%20Proposals/ROBESON_47533.3.2_I-5987A_C204727/Standard%20PDF%20Files/250%20Signing%20Plans2.pdf)
I-5987B 1 of 2 (https://xfer.services.ncdot.gov/dsplan/2022%20Highway%20Letting/07-19-22/Plans%20and%20Proposals/ROBESON_47533.3.3_I-5987B_C204728/Standard%20PDF%20Files/250%20SIGNING%20PLANS.pdf) ± MM 29-37
I-5987B 2 of 2 (https://xfer.services.ncdot.gov/dsplan/2022%20Highway%20Letting/07-19-22/Plans%20and%20Proposals/ROBESON_47533.3.3_I-5987B_C204728/Standard%20PDF%20Files/250%20SIGNING%20PLANS2.pdf)
I-5878 (https://xfer.services.ncdot.gov/dsplan/2021%20Highway%20Letting/07-20-21/Plans%20and%20Proposals/HARNETT_JOHNSTON_47532.3.3_I-5986B,%20I-5878,%20I-5883C204543/Standard%20PDF%20Files/250%20Signing%20Plans%20I-5878.pdf) MM 72-73
I-5883 (https://xfer.services.ncdot.gov/dsplan/2021%20Highway%20Letting/07-20-21/Plans%20and%20Proposals/HARNETT_JOHNSTON_47532.3.3_I-5986B,%20I-5878,%20I-5883C204543/Standard%20PDF%20Files/250%20Signing%20Plans%20I-5883.pdf) MM 75-77
I-5986B (https://xfer.services.ncdot.gov/dsplan/2021%20Highway%20Letting/07-20-21/Plans%20and%20Proposals/HARNETT_JOHNSTON_47532.3.3_I-5986B,%20I-5878,%20I-5883C204543/Standard%20PDF%20Files/250%20Signing%20Plans%20I-5986B.pdf) MM 77-81
NCDOT awards another I-95 widening contract, this for MM 21-29, work to be completed in 2026. Press release has list of all I-95 widening projects and their start and completion dates:
https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-10-05-i-95-widening-awarded.aspx (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-10-05-i-95-widening-awarded.aspx)
Glad they stopped using Local Traffic as destinations on Exit 25.
Interesting that past and future I-77 widening projects can't be funded within a reasonable timeframe without using toll lanes, but I-95 can have $1.7 billion worth of widening contracts awarded within a few years of each other....
Quote from: cowboy_wilhelm on October 09, 2022, 10:01:37 AM
Interesting that past and future I-77 widening projects can't be funded within a reasonable timeframe without using toll lanes, but I-95 can have $1.7 billion worth of widening contracts awarded within a few years of each other....
IIRC, the I-95 projects received specific grant money, related to hurricane recovery/resilience, and rural internet provisions. Those were exempt from the corridor cap. The road also is in different regions/divisions, allowing for more projects than on I-77 (the extremely high costs of the I-77 projects hurts in that it pushes them up against the corridor cap, which limits how much money can go to one corridor in a specific time period. The multiple regions help there on 95.)
Quote from: cowboy_wilhelm on October 09, 2022, 10:01:37 AM
Interesting that past and future I-77 widening projects can't be funded within a reasonable timeframe without using toll lanes, but I-95 can have $1.7 billion worth of widening contracts awarded within a few years of each other....
I-95 through NC is so decrepit, so dangerous with deaths happening every week, that the Trump administration had it on the Top 25 infrastructure dire needs in the whole country. As arguably the nation's most important interstate traversing over 100 million people up and down the East Coast, it's known by many people to be a top priority.
I-77 is the most heavily traveled interstate in NC, or sometimes the 2nd, but that division chose to make I-485 the most fabulous it could be with concrete pavement, north side's huge size, etc. first.... and that is why I-77 is in need of toll financing unless it waits 20 more years or so.
NCDOT is holding an open house on October 24 in Selma to discuss rebuilding the 3 interchanges in the Micro area.
https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-10-17-open-house-i-95-johnston.aspx (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-10-17-open-house-i-95-johnston.aspx)
Quote from: LM117 on October 17, 2022, 11:54:08 AM
NCDOT is holding an open house on October 24 in Selma to discuss rebuilding the 3 interchanges in the Micro area.
https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-10-17-open-house-i-95-johnston.aspx (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-10-17-open-house-i-95-johnston.aspx)
This stretch of I-95 was upgraded / modernized (only 4 lanes but designed for 8 in the future) a few years ago, except in these interchange locations. These bridge replacements / ramp realignments should finish that job.
Technically, NCDOT should theoretically be able to extend the 70 mph speed limit further south now with a modern interstate in place, but they likely will not.
I'm looking at a GSV of I-95 in Wilson County between Exits 119 A and B (US 264 and I-795) and Exit 121 (US Alternate 264), and I noticed that the median becomes wide in the vicinity of Exits 119 A and B, then becomes narrow again, only to become wider a second time before Exit 121.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.747328,-78.0034316,3629m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
If NCDOT is planning to widen the road, wouldn't it make more sense to move the current northbound lanes outward between the two interchanges?
Quote from: LM117 on October 17, 2022, 11:54:08 AM
NCDOT is holding an open house on October 24 in Selma to discuss rebuilding the 3 interchanges in the Micro area.
https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-10-17-open-house-i-95-johnston.aspx (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-10-17-open-house-i-95-johnston.aspx)
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East Main Street (Exit 102)
Replacement of bridge over I-95
Realignment of ramps to meet current standards
Realignment of St. Stephens Road removing its connection with the I-95 ramp
Couldn't they just pave the rest of East Fayetteville Street and turn the east end of St. Stephens Path into a dead end street, with or without a cul-de-sac?
Quote from: D-Dey65 on October 23, 2022, 11:36:07 PM
I'm looking at a GSV of I-95 in Wilson County between Exits 119 A and B (US 264 and I-795) and Exit 121 (US Alternate 264), and I noticed that the median becomes wide in the vicinity of Exits 119 A and B, then becomes narrow again, only to become wider a second time before Exit 121.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.747328,-78.0034316,3629m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
If NCDOT is planning to widen the road, wouldn't it make more sense to move the current northbound lanes outward between the two interchanges?
Usually the decision to go to the "inside" is based on cost-cutting or "value-engineering". Have seen too much of that in Texas. If you already have the ROW, and the bridge overpasses are being replaced, with greater horizontal clearances, am of belief it is superior to widen to the outside. Mainly the benefits are in aesthetics, a greater margin of safety, and night time glare reduction for on-coming traffic.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on October 23, 2022, 11:36:07 PM
I'm looking at a GSV of I-95 in Wilson County between Exits 119 A and B (US 264 and I-795) and Exit 121 (US Alternate 264), and I noticed that the median becomes wide in the vicinity of Exits 119 A and B, then becomes narrow again, only to become wider a second time before Exit 121.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.747328,-78.0034316,3629m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
If NCDOT is planning to widen the road, wouldn't it make more sense to move the current northbound lanes outward between the two interchanges?
There are patches of trees in the medians you cite that temporarily hide each direction from one another.
It's a practice you don't see much anymore but I like it. It provides some visual variety. Of course cops like to hide in those areas too, but with 70mph speed limits these days, I'm happy to go around 75-77 mph and not have to worry about a speeding ticket.
You know, I kind of wish we could split off a separate thread for I-95 Widening in South Carolina.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 09, 2023, 08:24:23 PM
You know, I kind of wish we could split off a separate thread for I-95 Widening in South Carolina.
Which will commence in what year? :hmmm: :-/
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 09, 2023, 08:24:23 PM
You know, I kind of wish we could split off a separate thread for I-95 Widening in South Carolina.
We do have a Fictional Highways board....
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 09, 2023, 08:24:23 PM
You know, I kind of wish we could split off a separate thread for I-95 Widening in South Carolina.
https://www.scdoti95widening.com/
Their project viewer also gives a projct number to widening 95 from Georgia to Exit 33 but has no info on timelines or funding
https://scdot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/MapSeries/index.html?appid=ca1cd69fc88945f4bb465e16765d761c
Quote from: Mapmikey on January 10, 2023, 09:01:15 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 09, 2023, 08:24:23 PM
You know, I kind of wish we could split off a separate thread for I-95 Widening in South Carolina.
https://www.scdoti95widening.com/
Their project viewer also gives a projct number to widening 95 from Georgia to Exit 33 but has no info on timelines or funding
https://scdot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/MapSeries/index.html?appid=ca1cd69fc88945f4bb465e16765d761c
Both are needed (the thread and the widening). Last year there were wordy signs posted on I-95 in Hardeeville (not sure how they expected anyone to read them, unless they were sitting still in the gridlock traffic through there) promoting the public comment session about this project. There needs to be a third lane in both directions and this is a start, but without more work it will just move the 3-to-2 lane drop a little further north.
SC colleagues, if you want a thread on I-95, by all means start one. I'll be interested to read it. Let's keep this thread for NC.
Quote from: wdcrft63 on January 11, 2023, 05:26:21 PM
SC colleagues, if you want a thread on I-95, by all means start one. I'll be interested to read it. Let's keep this thread for NC.
I'll start one when a contract is awarded.
But I might try to start a general thread for all active SC interstate widening projects. There are currently (3) going on that aren't on I-95...
* I-20 from GA mm 200 to SC mm 3, including replacement of the Savannah River crossing (barely mentioned)
* I-26 from mm 84 to mm 101 (barely mentioned)
* I-85 from mm 81 to the NC line at mm 107 (infamous, mentioned often)
...one that is just wrapping up...
* I-20 from mm 51 to mm 60
...and one that just got started last year and deserves its own thread:
* I-20/I-26/I-126 Malfunction Junction rebuild (Carolina Crossroads)
It's blatantly obvious that these projects are more meaningful to South Carolinians than where the widening is really needed, like I-95 south of I-26 or I-26 between Columbia and Charleston.
^ I-85 is certainly needed as much as I-95 and I-26, and the other projects appear to be urban / suburban projects, and likely have just as much importance due to high local volumes.
A friendly reminder to everyone (especially D-Dey65) that there already is an I-95 SC widening thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=19592.0)...
Quote from: froggie on January 12, 2023, 04:28:41 PM
A friendly reminder to everyone (especially D-Dey65) that there already is an I-95 SC widening thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=19592.0)...
Oh, I forgot about this. I see so many South Carolina-related posts on this thread, I wanted to see them on a more appropriate thread.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 15, 2020, 12:27:05 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 12, 2020, 07:44:46 PM
Perhaps a C/D road?
That's pretty close to what I'm thinking. Install C/D roads at Pope Road with additional ramps to and from Pope Road, and have the C/D roads lead to US 421, since that's really the priority crossroad. In the meantime, get the northbound on-ramp from Pope Road to bypass the northbound C/D road and lead directly onto I-95.
whenever i played cities skylines, thats kinda what i did if i had exits too close together. usually exits being too close together was due to lack of future planning on my part and usually all was needed was the C/D ramps. usually did the job pretty well, till it came time to widen it.
and cities skylines is like a rednecks cheap version of autoCAD and other software civil engineers use to simulate traffic, only differences are how cities skylines and autoCAD simulate roads and of course one being software and the other being a literal city simulation game.
either way, i can imagine that would work. i would only ask if they could add some bicycle/ped paths with some greenery along the interstate, to at least make it look a bit better. doubt anyone likes a interstate that looks bland. X-(
since im of the pro-toll and pro-privatization camp, i think one user had it better when they said to have tolls at the state borders of I-95 in NC, a 5 buck toll for people taking a vacation to florida was probably better, but have separated lanes for trucks only so that trucks have a free pass while people from the north can just go on paying the 5 bucks, although a 5 buck toll with congestion pricing for the summer time and for christmas/thanksgiving would probably be better for I-95 in NC. it would obviously pay for the maintence long term but it would help more. the only problem with tolls at the state borders is it could lead to some issues with people using a exit just before hitting NC to take a state or US route to cross the NC border free.
Quote from: civilengineeringnerd on February 12, 2023, 11:42:36 PM
since im of the pro-toll and pro-privatization camp, i think one user had it better when they said to have tolls at the state borders of I-95 in NC, a 5 buck toll for people taking a vacation to florida was probably better, but have separated lanes for trucks only so that trucks have a free pass while people from the north can just go on paying the 5 bucks, although a 5 buck toll with congestion pricing for the summer time and for christmas/thanksgiving would probably be better for I-95 in NC. it would obviously pay for the maintence long term but it would help more. the only problem with tolls at the state borders is it could lead to some issues with people using a exit just before hitting NC to take a state or US route to cross the NC border free.
Tolling I-95 would be instant political suicide, and privatization anywhere in the state would be political suicide as well (Pat McCrory found that out the hard way).
Quote from: LM117 on February 13, 2023, 07:10:46 AM
Quote from: civilengineeringnerd on February 12, 2023, 11:42:36 PM
since im of the pro-toll and pro-privatization camp, i think one user had it better when they said to have tolls at the state borders of I-95 in NC, a 5 buck toll for people taking a vacation to florida was probably better, but have separated lanes for trucks only so that trucks have a free pass while people from the north can just go on paying the 5 bucks, although a 5 buck toll with congestion pricing for the summer time and for christmas/thanksgiving would probably be better for I-95 in NC. it would obviously pay for the maintence long term but it would help more. the only problem with tolls at the state borders is it could lead to some issues with people using a exit just before hitting NC to take a state or US route to cross the NC border free.
Tolling I-95 would be instant political suicide, and privatization anywhere in the state would be political suicide as well (Pat McCrory found that out the hard way).
Amen to that! And it's a wonder that Thom Tillis is still an elected official at all at this point, seeing that he rammed the I-77 toll lanes through the NC General Assembly to begin with.
Somehow, NC has found the $ to start on the projects that are currently in progress. It's a very good start, since it's focusing on the most congested and outdated segments. Though it is definitely not pleasant to drive through those work zones. I have found myself utilizing US 13 quite a bit during my regular trips from Columbia, SC up to Hampton Roads.
Quote from: wriddle082 on February 13, 2023, 03:49:25 PM
Quote from: LM117 on February 13, 2023, 07:10:46 AM
Quote from: civilengineeringnerd on February 12, 2023, 11:42:36 PM
since im of the pro-toll and pro-privatization camp, i think one user had it better when they said to have tolls at the state borders of I-95 in NC, a 5 buck toll for people taking a vacation to florida was probably better, but have separated lanes for trucks only so that trucks have a free pass while people from the north can just go on paying the 5 bucks, although a 5 buck toll with congestion pricing for the summer time and for christmas/thanksgiving would probably be better for I-95 in NC. it would obviously pay for the maintence long term but it would help more. the only problem with tolls at the state borders is it could lead to some issues with people using a exit just before hitting NC to take a state or US route to cross the NC border free.
Tolling I-95 would be instant political suicide, and privatization anywhere in the state would be political suicide as well (Pat McCrory found that out the hard way).
Amen to that! And it's a wonder that Thom Tillis is still an elected official at all at this point, seeing that he rammed the I-77 toll lanes through the NC General Assembly to begin with.
NC's political preferences for US Senate and President almost always contradict those for governor. If Tillis had been governor and pushed the I-77 toll lanes, he would've lost like McCrory did.
Quote from: LM117 on February 14, 2023, 09:58:16 AM
Quote from: wriddle082 on February 13, 2023, 03:49:25 PM
Quote from: LM117 on February 13, 2023, 07:10:46 AM
Quote from: civilengineeringnerd on February 12, 2023, 11:42:36 PM
since im of the pro-toll and pro-privatization camp, i think one user had it better when they said to have tolls at the state borders of I-95 in NC, a 5 buck toll for people taking a vacation to florida was probably better, but have separated lanes for trucks only so that trucks have a free pass while people from the north can just go on paying the 5 bucks, although a 5 buck toll with congestion pricing for the summer time and for christmas/thanksgiving would probably be better for I-95 in NC. it would obviously pay for the maintence long term but it would help more. the only problem with tolls at the state borders is it could lead to some issues with people using a exit just before hitting NC to take a state or US route to cross the NC border free.
Tolling I-95 would be instant political suicide, and privatization anywhere in the state would be political suicide as well (Pat McCrory found that out the hard way).
Amen to that! And it's a wonder that Thom Tillis is still an elected official at all at this point, seeing that he rammed the I-77 toll lanes through the NC General Assembly to begin with.
NC's political preferences for US Senate and President almost always contradict those for governor. If Tillis had been governor and pushed the I-77 toll lanes, he would've lost like McCrory did.
McCrory partially lost because of the Bathroom Bill nonsense, but also because of I-77, which is an awful all-around deal with no additional free lanes and a prohibition of building new parallel alternatives for 50 years.
The NC Turnpike authority's other tolled roads are generally accepted without much griping.
I-95 border tolls would not be political suicide because it's plainly clear that NC residents aren't being targeted, and out-of-state travelers don't have a problem with a small contribution especially when they see all of the ongoing construction even right now.
The original 95 toll proposal was ridiculous with 5 or so toll locations within the state. That seemed to be especially targeting locals. Fortunately enough federal attention (even Trump's administration) has been given to NC"s stretch of I-95 to give it a boost with reconstruction. The infrastructure bill should give it some more funding to accelerate construction.
Quote from: wriddle082 on February 13, 2023, 03:49:25 PM
Quote from: LM117 on February 13, 2023, 07:10:46 AM
Quote from: civilengineeringnerd on February 12, 2023, 11:42:36 PM
since im of the pro-toll and pro-privatization camp, i think one user had it better when they said to have tolls at the state borders of I-95 in NC, a 5 buck toll for people taking a vacation to florida was probably better, but have separated lanes for trucks only so that trucks have a free pass while people from the north can just go on paying the 5 bucks, although a 5 buck toll with congestion pricing for the summer time and for christmas/thanksgiving would probably be better for I-95 in NC. it would obviously pay for the maintence long term but it would help more. the only problem with tolls at the state borders is it could lead to some issues with people using a exit just before hitting NC to take a state or US route to cross the NC border free.
Tolling I-95 would be instant political suicide, and privatization anywhere in the state would be political suicide as well (Pat McCrory found that out the hard way).
Amen to that! And it's a wonder that Thom Tillis is still an elected official at all at this point, seeing that he rammed the I-77 toll lanes through the NC General Assembly to begin with.
Somehow, NC has found the $ to start on the projects that are currently in progress. It's a very good start, since it's focusing on the most congested and outdated segments. Though it is definitely not pleasant to drive through those work zones. I have found myself utilizing US 13 quite a bit during my regular trips from Columbia, SC up to Hampton Roads.
I have driven through I-95's work zones from Smithfield to the SC line. It is a breeze and very smooth compared to South Carolina's I-85 widening through Gaffney, SC. That 30 mile construction zone had the same narrow barrier placement but the rough pavement with crowded, fast-moving traffic was just beating my car to death. It was white-knuckle driving for 45 minutes solid.
Yeah, in my experience North Carolina has handled its work zones better than South Carolina.
Currently, approximately 50 miles are or will soon be under construction between I-74 and I-40, excluding the Fayetteville "bypass" portion between either end of US-301.
Hopefully, funding can be found to close the "gap" around Fayetteville, where the highway will reduce from 8 to 4 lanes both north and south of the city, along with more 6 to 8 lane widening north of I-40 up towards Smithfield.
The portion north of Smithfield was just recently reconstructed with the mainline section reconstructed with new pavement and a modern concrete median barrier. The interchanges and existing 1950-era bridges are planned to soon be replaced as well, fully modernizing that stretch. It has all been designed with the capability of being expanded to an additional 2 lanes in each direction to the outside in the future.
North of US-301 / Kenly is a less traffic portion, though still warrants 6 lanes during peak travel periods.
South Carolina is planning to widen I-95 north of Florence to the North Carolina state line to 6 lanes I believe, and North Carolina should next be planning the section between I-74 and the South Carolina state line (13 miles). That, in combination with an expanded Fayetteville bypass, north of I-40 to Kenly, and the existing 50 miles under construction, would create approximately 145 miles of continuous 6 to 8-lane interstate highway between I-20 and Kenly. This is all achievable in the next 10 years if funding is allocated properly. It would alleviate the worst parts of I-95, leaving only a gap in the less traveled portion between Kenly and VA I-295, and then of course south of I-20 to US-17 in SC (where 33 miles south of there to Georgia is planned).
Quote from: architect77 on February 16, 2023, 12:49:42 AMI-95 border tolls would not be political suicide because it's plainly clear that NC residents aren't being targeted, and out-of-state travelers don't have a problem with a small contribution especially when they see all of the ongoing construction even right now.
That won't matter to eastern NC voters. I-95 goes through some of the poorest areas of the state. Just the mere mention of "I-95" and "tolls" in the same sentence would be all they need to hear for them to sign the political death warrant of whichever politician was unlucky enough to push it. That's why the issue of tolling I-95 was never brought up again.
Quote from: LM117 on February 16, 2023, 08:44:57 AM
Quote from: architect77 on February 16, 2023, 12:49:42 AMI-95 border tolls would not be political suicide because it's plainly clear that NC residents aren't being targeted, and out-of-state travelers don't have a problem with a small contribution especially when they see all of the ongoing construction even right now.
That won't matter to eastern NC voters. I-95 goes through some of the poorest areas of the state. Just the mere mention of "I-95" and "tolls" in the same sentence would be all they need to hear for them to sign the political death warrant of whichever politician was unlucky enough to push it. That's why the issue of tolling I-95 was never brought up again.
Fair enough, but the consequence of that opposition is it will take many many more years to rebuild and widen 95.
As part of the widening project, the Carthage Road bridge over I-95 in Lumberton will close on Feb. 23 so that demolition and construction of a new bridge can take place. The new bridge is expected to be open by fall 2024.
https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2023/2023-02-17-robeson-county-bridge-replacement-i-95.aspx (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2023/2023-02-17-robeson-county-bridge-replacement-i-95.aspx)
I'm betting that the Fayetteville Bypass was left out of the widening because traffic counts tend to dip there. NCDOT is likely relying on a completed I-295 and US-301/BL-95 siphoning off enough traffic. That section of roadway is much newer and better designed too. Even if it eventually needs to be widened, the work will be minimal because the overpasses are wide enough.
^ I'm guessing it'll ultimately decide on how traffic handles there once both I-295 is complete and the widening is. I'd argue they should have at least widened it to 6 lanes, because peak traffic on I-95 is going to inevitably cause a major chokepoint going from 4 to 2 lanes in either direction during holiday travel periods at the minimum.
https://twitter.com/ncdot_i95/status/1646892802763022337
Upcoming ramp closures in Cumberland County.
https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2023/2023-05-31-i-95-ramp-closures.aspx (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2023/2023-05-31-i-95-ramp-closures.aspx)
NCDOT awarded a contract to rebuild the US-70 Business interchange in Smithfield (Exit 95). Work can begin in January, and is expected to be complete by summer 2027.
https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2023/2023-12-01-smithfield-exit-i-95.aspx (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2023/2023-12-01-smithfield-exit-i-95.aspx)
Quote from: LM117 on December 02, 2023, 02:08:34 PM
NCDOT awarded a contract to rebuild the US-70 Business interchange in Smithfield (Exit 95). Work can begin in January, and is expected to be complete by summer 2027.
https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2023/2023-12-01-smithfield-exit-i-95.aspx (https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2023/2023-12-01-smithfield-exit-i-95.aspx)
As confirmed by Historic Aerials, that interchange was originally built as the interchange for main line US 70
Quote"The two-lane bridge over I-95 will be replaced with a five-lane bridge with a sidewalk. In addition, the on/off ramps will be reconfigured to meet modern standards, and traffic signals will be installed at the intersections of the ramps and U.S. 70 Business."
As somebody who walked that bridge and nearly scared my late father into a panic once I talked about it over the phone, I welcome the change. That was the first time I stayed at the Village Motor Lodge. Unfortunately, I suspect they'll probably tear down the abandoned restaurant that used to be part of that motel, and I suppose Mallard Road will be diverted onto the frontage road along the current northbound on and off ramp.