I-43's half-interchange with Rowe Rd north of Sheboygan is only open a few weekends a year, for golf tournaments at Whistling Straits (which I learned the hard way today).
What is now Exit 19W on the NJ Turnpike used to be a special event only exit for the Meadowlands Sports Complex.
does japan still have some non 24 hour ETC only ramps from the toll roads?
There are a couple of exits on the Cross Island Parkway that are only open for race days at Belmont Park (and now probably for events at UBS Arena).
There was/is the Main St exit off I-35/70 in Kansas City that closed during afternoon rush.
What about the ramp from the Balt-Wash Parkway to...NASA, I think it is? Might be only open certain times of the day.
IL-38 EB @ I-290 EB
https://goo.gl/maps/pXxhQZxY7tmh3pnx7
https://goo.gl/maps/Xasn97opPx4DW3Da8
Quote from: Rothman on June 17, 2022, 07:20:26 AM
What about the ramp from the Balt-Wash Parkway to...NASA, I think it is? Might be only open certain times of the day.
IIRC, that one's 24/7. But, as with the NSA exits off both the BW Pkwy and MD 32, it is "employees only".
Aw, I thought I found one: Key Gate @ Fort Sill from I-44 in Lawton, OK. On the east side, the gate is only open during certain hours (https://goo.gl/maps/6E2b8zcqfv6Jdtw28). But, on the west side, it's 24/7 (https://goo.gl/maps/exi5XCJaAHhxjLkRA). So not quite.
When the exit on the DC Capital Beltway (I-495) for what's now FedEx Field first opened, it was available on game days only. I think it was when a shopping center opened nearby that it switched to 24/7 access.
This isn't an exit per se, but rather a whole highway; nonetheless, this thread made me think of I-66 in the DC area, of which the section inside the Beltway is HOV-only (that is, no solo drivers allowed) during peak commute times of 7-9 AM and 4-6 PM or something like that. (At least, it was in 2005 when we last went down that particular road; I'm not sure if that's still true today. Can someone from Virginia/DC fill us in on this?)
Quote from: Rothman on June 17, 2022, 07:20:26 AM
What about the ramp from the Balt-Wash Parkway to...NASA, I think it is? Might be only open certain times of the day.
Also, a few exits up near Ft. Meade on the same road, B-W Parkway, there's a part-time commuting-only exit to NSA. (I wonder how many people have conflated the NSA and NASA exits...)
Relatedly, there's a part-time commuting-only exit for CIA on the GW Parkway (notably, this was the exit used in an early scene in "The Hunt for Red October", when Jack Ryan is going to CIA HQ).
Quote from: lepidopteran on June 17, 2022, 10:27:54 AM
When the exit on the DC Capital Beltway (I-495) for what's now FedEx Field first opened, it was available on game days only. I think it was when a shopping center opened nearby that it switched to 24/7 access.
SHA was required to put in the C/D roads and auxiliary lanes between MD 214 and MD 202 before they could open up the FedEx interchange 24/7.
Quote from: KCRoadFan on June 17, 2022, 10:39:50 AM
This isn't an exit per se, but rather a whole highway; nonetheless, this thread made me think of I-66 in the DC area, of which the section inside the Beltway is HOV-only (that is, no solo drivers allowed) during peak commute times of 7-9 AM and 4-6 PM or something like that. (At least, it was in 2005 when we last went down that particular road; I'm not sure if that's still true today. Can someone from Virginia/DC fill us in on this?)
Solo drivers who were going to/from Dulles airport were still allowed. These days it's Ho/T (High Occupancy/Toll), in that those with EZPass can use the road during peak times even if they're just one or two in the vehicle.
Quote from: thspfc on June 16, 2022, 09:32:44 PM
I-43's half-interchange with Rowe Rd north of Sheboygan is only open a few weekends a year, for golf tournaments at Whistling Straits (which I learned the hard way today).
I actually think it is only open for major championships.
Quote from: thspfc on June 16, 2022, 09:32:44 PM
I-43's half-interchange with Rowe Rd north of Sheboygan is only open a few weekends a year, for golf tournaments at Whistling Straits (which I learned the hard way today).
You can't let that go without the story behind it. At least checking GSV, there's a movable concrete barrier on I-43 itself, and cheaper barriers at the exit ramp itself. The only GSV from the local road itself shows no restrictions, but cops all over (I guess the exit was open for an event). Even the exit construction and eminient domain takings for utilizing public construction meant for rare private events led to some controversy. (https://web.archive.org/web/20100606053534/http://www.jsonline.com/business/95472154.html)
Quote from: Mr. Matté on June 17, 2022, 12:00:46 PM
Quote from: thspfc on June 16, 2022, 09:32:44 PM
I-43's half-interchange with Rowe Rd north of Sheboygan is only open a few weekends a year, for golf tournaments at Whistling Straits (which I learned the hard way today).
You can't let that go without the story behind it. At least checking GSV, there's a movable concrete barrier on I-43 itself, and cheaper barriers at the exit ramp itself. The only GSV from the local road itself shows no restrictions, but cops all over (I guess the exit was open for an event). Even the exit construction and eminient domain takings for utilizing public construction meant for rare private events led to some controversy. (https://web.archive.org/web/20100606053534/http://www.jsonline.com/business/95472154.html)
I made a quick excursion from Sheboygan to check out the course yesterday. Going north on I-43 I was planning to take that exit because Google Maps makes it look legit. But as I was passing it I saw the ramp hidden behind a concrete barrier :-D there's no signage ahead of the exit (not permanent signage anyway). Had to go up to CTH-XX and backtrack.
Going back to Sheboygan was worse. CTH-LS slows to 45 MPH a couple miles north of the city limit, then 35 soon after. Downed trees from Wednesday's storm meant detouring along Eisner Ave, 13th St, and North Ave in order to get to WI-42.
Quote from: froggie on June 17, 2022, 10:03:50 AM
Quote from: Rothman on June 17, 2022, 07:20:26 AM
What about the ramp from the Balt-Wash Parkway to...NASA, I think it is? Might be only open certain times of the day.
IIRC, that one's 24/7. But, as with the NSA exits off both the BW Pkwy and MD 32, it is "employees only".
If you mean the one just north of the MD 193 interchange, it has previously been "employees only", but for quite a few months now the ramps have been barricaded (with flexible bollards) so that interchange is now out of service. To enter, employees now have to use the main entrance off of MD 193.
In Manchester, TN, there is a temporary gated access point to/from I-24 west leading to the Bonnaroo music festival grounds, which coincidentally is happening this very weekend. TDOT calls this "Exit 112" (or maybe it's 113) even though it has no permanent signage. They open it up on the Thursday before the festival starts on Friday for ingress, and then open it up for egress on Sunday night once it's over.
Quote from: Mr. Matté on June 17, 2022, 12:00:46 PM
Quote from: thspfc on June 16, 2022, 09:32:44 PM
I-43's half-interchange with Rowe Rd north of Sheboygan is only open a few weekends a year, for golf tournaments at Whistling Straits (which I learned the hard way today).
You can't let that go without the story behind it. At least checking GSV, there's a movable concrete barrier on I-43 itself, and cheaper barriers at the exit ramp itself. The only GSV from the local road itself shows no restrictions, but cops all over (I guess the exit was open for an event). Even the exit construction and eminient domain takings for utilizing public construction meant for rare private events led to some controversy. (https://web.archive.org/web/20100606053534/http://www.jsonline.com/business/95472154.html)
Shows no restrictions? Miss the gate that can be used to close the onramp? https://goo.gl/maps/sRMCSfHVfVAPvR676
Quote from: Beeper1 on June 16, 2022, 11:26:59 PM
What is now Exit 19W on the NJ Turnpike used to be a special event only exit for the Meadowlands Sports Complex.
I was about to say that.
Anyway speaking of special events, on I-690 in Solvay, NY, though not an exit, but an at grade entrance to the freeway, signal heads are temporarily hung from a span wire during the NY State Fair. Other times the intersection is closed and making the interstate the freeway it's supposed to be with the span wire dangling over the roadway.
I heard though, through the grapevine, that the last few seasons has eliminated this part time entrance, but can't be sure if it's true or not.
Quote from: roadman65 on June 18, 2022, 08:17:32 AM
I heard though, through the grapevine, that the last few seasons has eliminated this part time entrance, but can't be sure if it's true or not.
The at grade intersection on I-690 by the New York State Fairgrounds is gone. There's still the existing span wire with the old signal heads over the freeway. Here's GSV link.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0817654,-76.2225415,3a,75y,264.65h,85.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMP0WWA-JVsvR5RIpIGqsXw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Quote from: thspfc on June 17, 2022, 12:18:52 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on June 17, 2022, 12:00:46 PM
Quote from: thspfc on June 16, 2022, 09:32:44 PM
I-43's half-interchange with Rowe Rd north of Sheboygan is only open a few weekends a year, for golf tournaments at Whistling Straits (which I learned the hard way today).
You can't let that go without the story behind it. At least checking GSV, there's a movable concrete barrier on I-43 itself, and cheaper barriers at the exit ramp itself. The only GSV from the local road itself shows no restrictions, but cops all over (I guess the exit was open for an event). Even the exit construction and eminient domain takings for utilizing public construction meant for rare private events led to some controversy. (https://web.archive.org/web/20100606053534/http://www.jsonline.com/business/95472154.html)
I made a quick excursion from Sheboygan to check out the course yesterday. Going north on I-43 I was planning to take that exit because Google Maps makes it look legit. But as I was passing it I saw the ramp hidden behind a concrete barrier :-D there's no signage ahead of the exit (not permanent signage anyway). Had to go up to CTH-XX and backtrack.
Going back to Sheboygan was worse. CTH-LS slows to 45 MPH a couple miles north of the city limit, then 35 soon after. Downed trees from Wednesday's storm meant detouring along Eisner Ave, 13th St, and North Ave in order to get to WI-42.
Last year during the Ryder Cup, there were temporary exit signs erected I-43 northbound. But as I said, I only think they open it during major tournaments like the Ryder Cup, and since it is doubtful that Whistling Straights is ever going to host such tournaments in the future, I am not sure that exit will ever be in use again.
Quote from: SEWIGuy on June 18, 2022, 09:05:43 AM
Quote from: thspfc on June 17, 2022, 12:18:52 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on June 17, 2022, 12:00:46 PM
Quote from: thspfc on June 16, 2022, 09:32:44 PM
I-43's half-interchange with Rowe Rd north of Sheboygan is only open a few weekends a year, for golf tournaments at Whistling Straits (which I learned the hard way today).
You can't let that go without the story behind it. At least checking GSV, there's a movable concrete barrier on I-43 itself, and cheaper barriers at the exit ramp itself. The only GSV from the local road itself shows no restrictions, but cops all over (I guess the exit was open for an event). Even the exit construction and eminient domain takings for utilizing public construction meant for rare private events led to some controversy. (https://web.archive.org/web/20100606053534/http://www.jsonline.com/business/95472154.html)
I made a quick excursion from Sheboygan to check out the course yesterday. Going north on I-43 I was planning to take that exit because Google Maps makes it look legit. But as I was passing it I saw the ramp hidden behind a concrete barrier :-D there's no signage ahead of the exit (not permanent signage anyway). Had to go up to CTH-XX and backtrack.
Going back to Sheboygan was worse. CTH-LS slows to 45 MPH a couple miles north of the city limit, then 35 soon after. Downed trees from Wednesday's storm meant detouring along Eisner Ave, 13th St, and North Ave in order to get to WI-42.
Last year during the Ryder Cup, there were temporary exit signs erected I-43 northbound. But as I said, I only think they open it during major tournaments like the Ryder Cup, and since it is doubtful that Whistling Straights is ever going to host such tournaments in the future, I am not sure that exit will ever be in use again.
Why is it doubtful?
Quote from: thspfc on June 18, 2022, 10:24:22 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on June 18, 2022, 09:05:43 AM
Quote from: thspfc on June 17, 2022, 12:18:52 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on June 17, 2022, 12:00:46 PM
Quote from: thspfc on June 16, 2022, 09:32:44 PM
I-43's half-interchange with Rowe Rd north of Sheboygan is only open a few weekends a year, for golf tournaments at Whistling Straits (which I learned the hard way today).
You can't let that go without the story behind it. At least checking GSV, there's a movable concrete barrier on I-43 itself, and cheaper barriers at the exit ramp itself. The only GSV from the local road itself shows no restrictions, but cops all over (I guess the exit was open for an event). Even the exit construction and eminient domain takings for utilizing public construction meant for rare private events led to some controversy. (https://web.archive.org/web/20100606053534/http://www.jsonline.com/business/95472154.html)
I made a quick excursion from Sheboygan to check out the course yesterday. Going north on I-43 I was planning to take that exit because Google Maps makes it look legit. But as I was passing it I saw the ramp hidden behind a concrete barrier :-D there's no signage ahead of the exit (not permanent signage anyway). Had to go up to CTH-XX and backtrack.
Going back to Sheboygan was worse. CTH-LS slows to 45 MPH a couple miles north of the city limit, then 35 soon after. Downed trees from Wednesday's storm meant detouring along Eisner Ave, 13th St, and North Ave in order to get to WI-42.
Last year during the Ryder Cup, there were temporary exit signs erected I-43 northbound. But as I said, I only think they open it during major tournaments like the Ryder Cup, and since it is doubtful that Whistling Straights is ever going to host such tournaments in the future, I am not sure that exit will ever be in use again.
Why is it doubtful?
With the PGA Championship moving to May, when it used to be held in August, I doubt the PGA is going to look to host it at a course on the shore of Lake Michigan that time of year. Furthermore, I don't think the politics of the USGA and PGA will allow it to host a US Open anytime soon - if ever. So my guess is that it will host more minor events like a US Senior Open, but that's about it.
Quote from: SEWIGuy on June 18, 2022, 10:50:12 AM
Quote from: thspfc on June 18, 2022, 10:24:22 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on June 18, 2022, 09:05:43 AM
Quote from: thspfc on June 17, 2022, 12:18:52 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on June 17, 2022, 12:00:46 PM
Quote from: thspfc on June 16, 2022, 09:32:44 PM
I-43's half-interchange with Rowe Rd north of Sheboygan is only open a few weekends a year, for golf tournaments at Whistling Straits (which I learned the hard way today).
You can't let that go without the story behind it. At least checking GSV, there's a movable concrete barrier on I-43 itself, and cheaper barriers at the exit ramp itself. The only GSV from the local road itself shows no restrictions, but cops all over (I guess the exit was open for an event). Even the exit construction and eminient domain takings for utilizing public construction meant for rare private events led to some controversy. (https://web.archive.org/web/20100606053534/http://www.jsonline.com/business/95472154.html)
I made a quick excursion from Sheboygan to check out the course yesterday. Going north on I-43 I was planning to take that exit because Google Maps makes it look legit. But as I was passing it I saw the ramp hidden behind a concrete barrier :-D there's no signage ahead of the exit (not permanent signage anyway). Had to go up to CTH-XX and backtrack.
Going back to Sheboygan was worse. CTH-LS slows to 45 MPH a couple miles north of the city limit, then 35 soon after. Downed trees from Wednesday's storm meant detouring along Eisner Ave, 13th St, and North Ave in order to get to WI-42.
Last year during the Ryder Cup, there were temporary exit signs erected I-43 northbound. But as I said, I only think they open it during major tournaments like the Ryder Cup, and since it is doubtful that Whistling Straights is ever going to host such tournaments in the future, I am not sure that exit will ever be in use again.
Why is it doubtful?
With the PGA Championship moving to May, when it used to be held in August, I doubt the PGA is going to look to host it at a course on the shore of Lake Michigan that time of year. Furthermore, I don't think the politics of the USGA and PGA will allow it to host a US Open anytime soon - if ever. So my guess is that it will host more minor events like a US Senior Open, but that's about it.
Seems like a waste of one of the better courses in the country.
Quote from: thspfc on June 18, 2022, 11:37:33 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on June 18, 2022, 10:50:12 AM
Quote from: thspfc on June 18, 2022, 10:24:22 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on June 18, 2022, 09:05:43 AM
Quote from: thspfc on June 17, 2022, 12:18:52 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on June 17, 2022, 12:00:46 PM
Quote from: thspfc on June 16, 2022, 09:32:44 PM
I-43's half-interchange with Rowe Rd north of Sheboygan is only open a few weekends a year, for golf tournaments at Whistling Straits (which I learned the hard way today).
You can't let that go without the story behind it. At least checking GSV, there's a movable concrete barrier on I-43 itself, and cheaper barriers at the exit ramp itself. The only GSV from the local road itself shows no restrictions, but cops all over (I guess the exit was open for an event). Even the exit construction and eminient domain takings for utilizing public construction meant for rare private events led to some controversy. (https://web.archive.org/web/20100606053534/http://www.jsonline.com/business/95472154.html)
I made a quick excursion from Sheboygan to check out the course yesterday. Going north on I-43 I was planning to take that exit because Google Maps makes it look legit. But as I was passing it I saw the ramp hidden behind a concrete barrier :-D there's no signage ahead of the exit (not permanent signage anyway). Had to go up to CTH-XX and backtrack.
Going back to Sheboygan was worse. CTH-LS slows to 45 MPH a couple miles north of the city limit, then 35 soon after. Downed trees from Wednesday's storm meant detouring along Eisner Ave, 13th St, and North Ave in order to get to WI-42.
Last year during the Ryder Cup, there were temporary exit signs erected I-43 northbound. But as I said, I only think they open it during major tournaments like the Ryder Cup, and since it is doubtful that Whistling Straights is ever going to host such tournaments in the future, I am not sure that exit will ever be in use again.
Why is it doubtful?
With the PGA Championship moving to May, when it used to be held in August, I doubt the PGA is going to look to host it at a course on the shore of Lake Michigan that time of year. Furthermore, I don't think the politics of the USGA and PGA will allow it to host a US Open anytime soon - if ever. So my guess is that it will host more minor events like a US Senior Open, but that's about it.
Seems like a waste of one of the better courses in the country.
They don't make money hosting these tournaments.
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on June 18, 2022, 08:47:13 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 18, 2022, 08:17:32 AM
I heard though, through the grapevine, that the last few seasons has eliminated this part time entrance, but can't be sure if it's true or not.
The at grade intersection on I-690 by the New York State Fairgrounds is gone. There's still the existing span wire with the old signal heads over the freeway. Here's GSV link.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0817654,-76.2225415,3a,75y,264.65h,85.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMP0WWA-JVsvR5RIpIGqsXw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
There's also a new flyover from the Orange Lot.
Quote from: Rothman on June 17, 2022, 07:20:26 AM
What about the ramp from the Balt-Wash Parkway to...NASA, I think it is? Might be only open certain times of the day.
NASA
and NSA, I believe...
Quote from: Rothman on June 18, 2022, 04:12:02 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on June 18, 2022, 08:47:13 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 18, 2022, 08:17:32 AM
I heard though, through the grapevine, that the last few seasons has eliminated this part time entrance, but can't be sure if it's true or not.
The at grade intersection on I-690 by the New York State Fairgrounds is gone. There's still the existing span wire with the old signal heads over the freeway. Here's GSV link.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0817654,-76.2225415,3a,75y,264.65h,85.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMP0WWA-JVsvR5RIpIGqsXw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
There's also a new flyover from the Orange Lot.
Yep, StreetView has caught it being completed already.
https://goo.gl/maps/KrsWYVZ5eZySwrrdA
Quote from: kphoger on June 17, 2022, 10:15:10 AM
Aw, I thought I found one: Key Gate @ Fort Sill from I-44 in Lawton, OK. On the east side, the gate is only open during certain hours (https://goo.gl/maps/6E2b8zcqfv6Jdtw28). But, on the west side, it's 24/7 (https://goo.gl/maps/exi5XCJaAHhxjLkRA). So not quite.
Even if the gates were both closed at night, it'd still be a not quite, probably... since you
could still exit there... you just wouldn't be able to go anywhere, other than returning to I-44 (either the same direction you were going in, or turning around).
Quote from: wriddle082 on June 17, 2022, 03:17:52 PM
In Manchester, TN, there is a temporary gated access point to/from I-24 west leading to the Bonnaroo music festival grounds, which coincidentally is happening this very weekend. TDOT calls this "Exit 112" (or maybe it's 113) even though it has no permanent signage. They open it up on the Thursday before the festival starts on Friday for ingress, and then open it up for egress on Sunday night once it's over.
What do they do during the festival? Does TDOT contract with the festival organizers to erect temporary signage? Without that, people not familiar with the area (which I'm sure a lot of festival-goers probably aren't) wouldn't know exactly where to get off.
Exit 15 on the Dulles Toll Road (VA-267) was constructed as part-time access to the Wolf Trap Center for the Performing Arts. Anybody know if it is now open full-time?
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on June 18, 2022, 10:06:58 PM
Quote from: Rothman on June 18, 2022, 04:12:02 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on June 18, 2022, 08:47:13 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 18, 2022, 08:17:32 AM
I heard though, through the grapevine, that the last few seasons has eliminated this part time entrance, but can't be sure if it's true or not.
The at grade intersection on I-690 by the New York State Fairgrounds is gone. There's still the existing span wire with the old signal heads over the freeway. Here's GSV link.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0817654,-76.2225415,3a,75y,264.65h,85.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMP0WWA-JVsvR5RIpIGqsXw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
There's also a new flyover from the Orange Lot.
Yep, StreetView has caught it being completed already.
https://goo.gl/maps/KrsWYVZ5eZySwrrdA
Well...yeah. I've been across it a few times now. :D
Quote from: KCRoadFan on June 18, 2022, 11:00:39 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on June 17, 2022, 03:17:52 PM
In Manchester, TN, there is a temporary gated access point to/from I-24 west leading to the Bonnaroo music festival grounds, which coincidentally is happening this very weekend. TDOT calls this "Exit 112" (or maybe it's 113) even though it has no permanent signage. They open it up on the Thursday before the festival starts on Friday for ingress, and then open it up for egress on Sunday night once it's over.
What do they do during the festival? Does TDOT contract with the festival organizers to erect temporary signage? Without that, people not familiar with the area (which I'm sure a lot of festival-goers probably aren't) wouldn't know exactly where to get off.
During the lead-up to the festival, TDOT gets the word out that all through traffic on I-24 should use the left lane and all Bonnaroo traffic should use the right lane and right shoulder. And they post maps of alternate routes around the whole area for those who just want to avoid it altogether. I suppose there are portable VMS's once you get close to the exit. Really the exit is more of a RIRO with a gate.
https://goo.gl/maps/L8TBTRstAu5k2Rjj6
Quote from: Mr. Matté on June 17, 2022, 12:00:46 PM
Quote from: thspfc on June 16, 2022, 09:32:44 PM
I-43's half-interchange with Rowe Rd north of Sheboygan is only open a few weekends a year, for golf tournaments at Whistling Straits (which I learned the hard way today).
You can't let that go without the story behind it. At least checking GSV, there's a movable concrete barrier on I-43 itself, and cheaper barriers at the exit ramp itself. The only GSV from the local road itself shows no restrictions, but cops all over (I guess the exit was open for an event). Even the exit construction and eminient domain takings for utilizing public construction meant for rare private events led to some controversy. (https://web.archive.org/web/20100606053534/http://www.jsonline.com/business/95472154.html)
Ah. Yeah that's a perfectly good interchange, no practical reason for it to not normally be open except... NIMBYs. Figures.
Another NIMBY part-timing that comes to mind is this onramp to I-295 right before the Throggs Neck Bridge (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8173854,-73.8060777,3a,52.5y,67.04h,83.97t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s__BMeeWSPb5zkeQOuin_rw!2e0!5s20220201T000000!7i16384!8i8192).
For decades, this ramp was closed during rush hours and all weekend, because locals in the neighborhood didn't like people clogging up their local streets trying to bypass traffic getting to the bridge. But that was when there was a physical toll plaza. In 2017 the bridge went AET, the toll plaza was removed, and the massive backups that people were trying to bypass using this onramp shrank to a fraction of what they used to be. Subsequently, the ramp changed to being open full time and now the gates have been removed.
Quote from: Dirt Roads on June 18, 2022, 11:01:50 PM
Exit 15 on the Dulles Toll Road (VA-267) was constructed as part-time access to the Wolf Trap Center for the Performing Arts. Anybody know if it is now open full-time?
From the looks of it here it seems like it is open full-time.
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9350098,-77.2651705,3a,21y,323.79h,89.33t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sblHSTvEOGkDmfp7csw73RA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DblHSTvEOGkDmfp7csw73RA%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D31.349182%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9350098,-77.2651705,3a,21y,323.79h,89.33t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sblHSTvEOGkDmfp7csw73RA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DblHSTvEOGkDmfp7csw73RA%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D31.349182%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
Quote from: tsmatt13 on June 20, 2022, 09:39:25 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on June 18, 2022, 11:01:50 PM
Exit 15 on the Dulles Toll Road (VA-267) was constructed as part-time access to the Wolf Trap Center for the Performing Arts. Anybody know if it is now open full-time?
From the looks of it here it seems like it is open full-time.
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9350098,-77.2651705,3a,21y,323.79h,89.33t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sblHSTvEOGkDmfp7csw73RA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DblHSTvEOGkDmfp7csw73RA%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D31.349182%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9350098,-77.2651705,3a,21y,323.79h,89.33t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sblHSTvEOGkDmfp7csw73RA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DblHSTvEOGkDmfp7csw73RA%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D31.349182%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
Further upstream is this sign (https://goo.gl/maps/9izBqbTdjJnWYHiG8); given the lack of any physical barriers to prevent non-event ramp usage, it seems the honor system is relied upon here.
Quote from: HTM Duke on June 21, 2022, 12:53:40 PM
Quote from: tsmatt13 on June 20, 2022, 09:39:25 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on June 18, 2022, 11:01:50 PM
Exit 15 on the Dulles Toll Road (VA-267) was constructed as part-time access to the Wolf Trap Center for the Performing Arts. Anybody know if it is now open full-time?
From the looks of it here it seems like it is open full-time.
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9350098,-77.2651705,3a,21y,323.79h,89.33t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sblHSTvEOGkDmfp7csw73RA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DblHSTvEOGkDmfp7csw73RA%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D31.349182%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9350098,-77.2651705,3a,21y,323.79h,89.33t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sblHSTvEOGkDmfp7csw73RA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DblHSTvEOGkDmfp7csw73RA%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D31.349182%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
Further upstream is this sign (https://goo.gl/maps/9izBqbTdjJnWYHiG8); given the lack of any physical barriers to prevent non-event ramp usage, it seems the honor system is relied upon here.
You are both correct. A former colleague who lives near there said that every once in a while there would be a cop at the top of the ramp at times when Wolf Trap wasn't holding an event, but that it was rare in part because there are things to do at Wolf Trap aside from attending performances–you can walk the trails through the woods, for example–such that enforcement is always a bit hit-or-miss. The sign's restriction to "park uses" doesn't say "performances only," in other words, so it's sort of like the Dulles Access Road being restricted to "airport business," which has been construed to include buying coffee or a newspaper at the airport gas station.
Quote from: thspfc on June 16, 2022, 09:32:44 PM
I-43's half-interchange with Rowe Rd north of Sheboygan is only open a few weekends a year, for golf tournaments at Whistling Straits (which I learned the hard way today).
I don't see how you could considering it's not marked on any maps. At least no maps I have seen.
Quote from: dvferyance on June 24, 2022, 08:33:43 PM
Quote from: thspfc on June 16, 2022, 09:32:44 PM
I-43's half-interchange with Rowe Rd north of Sheboygan is only open a few weekends a year, for golf tournaments at Whistling Straits (which I learned the hard way today).
I don't see how you could considering it's not marked on any maps. At least no maps I have seen.
Google shows it on both default and satellite view.
Quote from: epzik8 on June 18, 2022, 09:07:07 PM
Quote from: Rothman on June 17, 2022, 07:20:26 AM
What about the ramp from the Balt-Wash Parkway to...NASA, I think it is? Might be only open certain times of the day.
NASA and NSA, I believe...
Is this the exit (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1213273,-76.7691111,3a,26.5y,237.4h,87.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGhTTgin5acSG2WqBiCov-A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) you mean? If so, that's going to NSA HQ at Fort Meade.
Quote from: skluth on June 25, 2022, 11:33:02 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on June 18, 2022, 09:07:07 PM
Quote from: Rothman on June 17, 2022, 07:20:26 AM
What about the ramp from the Balt-Wash Parkway to...NASA, I think it is? Might be only open certain times of the day.
NASA and NSA, I believe...
Is this the exit (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1213273,-76.7691111,3a,26.5y,237.4h,87.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGhTTgin5acSG2WqBiCov-A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) you mean? If so, that's going to NSA HQ at Fort Meade.
There's also this exit (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0057739,-76.8637214,3a,75y,236.96h,91.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sagrq5f0-0P7C84-TUmC20A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) a bit further south which is the one that goes to NASA, distinct from the previous exit which is for NSA. The barricades for the NASA exit are still there as of now (I drive that way on my daily commute).
This exit off of US 31W/US 60 at Fort Knox is technically always open but doesn't lead anywhere because this entry gate to the base is closed.
https://goo.gl/maps/884DCRoLcBhRQPRA7
The warning sign uses red flashing beacons. I suspect it was installed by the base and not KYTC.
The Kansas Turnpike has a few of these exits like here (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.3131735,-96.3348573,397m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1?hl=en), here (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.145398,-96.5125634,329m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1?hl=en), and here (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.2754393,-96.3727921,323m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1?hl=en). Don't know if they're part-time, emergency, or just random access points for farmers. There's also the cattle pen exit (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.2298268,-96.4085105,431m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1?hl=en)which used to be part-time but now appears to always be open.
Quote from: CardInLex on June 25, 2022, 12:17:47 PM
This exit off of US 31W/US 60 at Fort Knox is technically always open but doesn't lead anywhere because this entry gate to the base is closed.
https://goo.gl/maps/884DCRoLcBhRQPRA7
Doesn't it also lead to Brandenburg Road? I don't see any signs prohibiting any turns.
Quote from: kphoger on June 27, 2022, 02:47:56 PM
Quote from: CardInLex on June 25, 2022, 12:17:47 PM
This exit off of US 31W/US 60 at Fort Knox is technically always open but doesn't lead anywhere because this entry gate to the base is closed.
https://goo.gl/maps/884DCRoLcBhRQPRA7
Doesn't it also lead to Brandenburg Road? I don't see any signs prohibiting any turns.
There are no signs prohibiting it, but it doesn't really go anywhere other than DOD property. There are signs prohibiting "Civilian Traffic" on Carpenters Test Rd.
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on June 18, 2022, 05:29:54 AM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on June 17, 2022, 12:00:46 PM
Quote from: thspfc on June 16, 2022, 09:32:44 PM
I-43's half-interchange with Rowe Rd north of Sheboygan is only open a few weekends a year, for golf tournaments at Whistling Straits (which I learned the hard way today).
You can't let that go without the story behind it. At least checking GSV, there's a movable concrete barrier on I-43 itself, and cheaper barriers at the exit ramp itself. The only GSV from the local road itself shows no restrictions, but cops all over (I guess the exit was open for an event). Even the exit construction and eminient domain takings for utilizing public construction meant for rare private events led to some controversy. (https://web.archive.org/web/20100606053534/http://www.jsonline.com/business/95472154.html)
Shows no restrictions? Miss the gate that can be used to close the onramp? https://goo.gl/maps/sRMCSfHVfVAPvR676
I'd be willing to bet that is a snow gate.
Quote from: rarnold on June 28, 2022, 09:15:49 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on June 18, 2022, 05:29:54 AM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on June 17, 2022, 12:00:46 PM
Quote from: thspfc on June 16, 2022, 09:32:44 PM
I-43’s half-interchange with Rowe Rd north of Sheboygan is only open a few weekends a year, for golf tournaments at Whistling Straits (which I learned the hard way today).
You can't let that go without the story behind it. At least checking GSV, there's a movable concrete barrier on I-43 itself, and cheaper barriers at the exit ramp itself. The only GSV from the local road itself shows no restrictions, but cops all over (I guess the exit was open for an event). Even the exit construction and eminient domain takings for utilizing public construction meant for rare private events led to some controversy. (https://web.archive.org/web/20100606053534/http://www.jsonline.com/business/95472154.html)
Shows no restrictions? Miss the gate that can be used to close the onramp? https://goo.gl/maps/sRMCSfHVfVAPvR676
I'd be willing to bet that is a snow gate.
Doubt it. Especially since they close off the NB off-ramp with a concrete barrier. Especially if you look at the satellite imagery that Google has currently. You can clearly see it closed, blocking the ramp.
Quote from: thspfc on June 24, 2022, 09:00:59 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on June 24, 2022, 08:33:43 PM
Quote from: thspfc on June 16, 2022, 09:32:44 PM
I-43's half-interchange with Rowe Rd north of Sheboygan is only open a few weekends a year, for golf tournaments at Whistling Straits (which I learned the hard way today).
I don't see how you could considering it's not marked on any maps. At least no maps I have seen.
Google shows it on both default and satellite view.
Of course it would be on the satellite view because it's there. I know for sure it is not on the WisDOT map or any road atlas. WisDOT does not list it as on exit on their I-43 exit list either.
Quote from: dvferyance on June 30, 2022, 08:13:13 PM
Quote from: thspfc on June 24, 2022, 09:00:59 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on June 24, 2022, 08:33:43 PM
Quote from: thspfc on June 16, 2022, 09:32:44 PM
I-43's half-interchange with Rowe Rd north of Sheboygan is only open a few weekends a year, for golf tournaments at Whistling Straits (which I learned the hard way today).
I don't see how you could considering it's not marked on any maps. At least no maps I have seen.
Google shows it on both default and satellite view.
Of course it would be on the satellite view because it's there. I know for sure it is not on the WisDOT map or any road atlas. WisDOT does not list it as on exit on their I-43 exit list either.
QuoteGoogle shows it on both default and satellite view.