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Re: Fictional Municipality/County Changes
« Reply #150 on: November 30, 2022, 10:13:11 PM »

Split the southern third of Milwaukee County. They are so different politically from the rest of the county. They should be their own county. I would also merge the 2 Pewaukee's as one. I would also merge Wisconsin Dells and Lake Delton as one city.
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Re: Fictional Municipality/County Changes
« Reply #151 on: December 01, 2022, 03:06:37 AM »

Split the southern third of Milwaukee County. They are so different politically from the rest of the county. They should be their own county. I would also merge the 2 Pewaukee's as one. I would also merge Wisconsin Dells and Lake Delton as one city.
All other cities in Milwaukee County should be merged into Milwaukee.
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Re: Fictional Municipality/County Changes
« Reply #152 on: December 01, 2022, 12:39:02 PM »

Split the southern third of Milwaukee County. They are so different politically from the rest of the county. They should be their own county. I would also merge the 2 Pewaukee's as one. I would also merge Wisconsin Dells and Lake Delton as one city.
All other cities in Milwaukee County should be merged into Milwaukee.

Not just Milwaukee County, but the (really, as in about 1980 or so) old Wisconsin Telephone (when it was part of AT&T) Milwaukee 'Metroplan' local calling area should be politically one city with one mayor and one city council.  Ditto the rest of the metros in the state.  Yes, even Redgranite and Lohrville as well as Mayville and Kekoskee.

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Re: Fictional Municipality/County Changes
« Reply #153 on: December 01, 2022, 03:23:48 PM »

Isn't it a benefit to have diversity within a political jurisdiction?   :hmmm:
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Re: Fictional Municipality/County Changes
« Reply #154 on: December 01, 2022, 04:17:03 PM »

Can we change state borders in this thread as well?
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Re: Fictional Municipality/County Changes
« Reply #155 on: December 01, 2022, 04:25:19 PM »

Can we change state borders in this thread as well?

I'd prefer not since that takes an act of Congress.
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Re: Fictional Municipality/County Changes
« Reply #156 on: December 01, 2022, 04:30:15 PM »

Isn't it a benefit to have diversity within a political jurisdiction?   :hmmm:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority

Not saying it always happens, but it can be a risk that a political jurisdiction that serves many different distinct constituencies can have.
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« Reply #157 on: December 01, 2022, 04:33:39 PM »

Can we change state borders in this thread as well?

I'd prefer not since that takes an act of Congress.
If I can build interstates in Iraq I can redraw states
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Re: Fictional Municipality/County Changes
« Reply #158 on: December 01, 2022, 04:34:42 PM »

Can we change state borders in this thread as well?

I'd prefer not since that takes an act of Congress.
If I can build interstates in Iraq I can redraw states

Can you build interstates in Iraq?
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Re: Fictional Municipality/County Changes
« Reply #159 on: December 01, 2022, 04:35:33 PM »

Can we change state borders in this thread as well?

I'd prefer not since that takes an act of Congress.
If I can build interstates in Iraq I can redraw states

Can you build interstates in Iraq?
I'm sure we could have if we wanted to after we invaded their country 2 decades ago.
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Re: Fictional Municipality/County Changes
« Reply #160 on: December 01, 2022, 04:46:19 PM »

I'm sure we could have if we wanted to after we invaded their country 2 decades ago.

Were you even allowed over there?  Last I checked, you can't build anything if you're not there to build it.
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Re: Fictional Municipality/County Changes
« Reply #161 on: December 02, 2022, 12:34:51 AM »

Isn't it a benefit to have diversity within a political jurisdiction?   :hmmm:

IMHO, the big benefit is that the city's governance should reflect the mores and sensibilities of the entire metropolitan community.  right now, the city and suburbs in every metro are essentially two separate worlds.  No wonder they can't get along.

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Re: Fictional Municipality/County Changes
« Reply #162 on: December 02, 2022, 02:50:30 AM »

Oklahoma City (which is in both Oklahoma County and Cleveland County) could be separated to new City and County of Oklahoma City.
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Re: Fictional Municipality/County Changes
« Reply #163 on: December 02, 2022, 05:06:32 AM »

Oklahoma City (which is in both Oklahoma County and Cleveland County) could be separated to new City and County of Oklahoma City.

Oklahoma City and Oklahoma County should merge. Oklahoma County doesn't really do a whole lot, given that so much of its territory is within OKC limits. Maybe we'd finally get the fucking jail fixed once and for all, too. 
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Re: Fictional Municipality/County Changes
« Reply #164 on: December 02, 2022, 09:08:59 AM »

the fucking jail

You have a jail dedicated to rapists only?
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Re: Fictional Municipality/County Changes
« Reply #165 on: December 03, 2022, 02:58:38 PM »

Florida: (presented with no thought as to feasibility :popcorn:)

  • Split Volusia County between west (county seat: DeLand) and east (county seat: Daytona Beach).
  • Merge Jacksonville Beach, Atlantic Beach, Neptune Beach, and Baldwin into Jacksonville (consolidated with Duval County).
  • Merge each of the twenty-six counties with a population under 50,000 with their neighbors or, where more practicable, each other.
  • Make Miami (including Key Biscayne and intervening unincorporated lands) an independent city, and rename the county from which it separates back to Dade County.
  • Make Orlando (including intervening CDPs and unincorporated lands) an independent city, and merge the eastern remnant of Orange County with Seminole County.
  • Make the Keys their own county.
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Re: Fictional Municipality/County Changes
« Reply #166 on: December 03, 2022, 03:02:09 PM »


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  • Merge each of the twenty-six counties with a population under 50,000 with their neighbors or, where more practicable, each other.
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  • Make the Keys their own county.

So you'll combine counties with under 50k, and then create a new one well under 20k people?
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« Reply #167 on: December 03, 2022, 03:16:09 PM »

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  • Merge each of the twenty-six counties with a population under 50,000 with their neighbors or, where more practicable, each other.
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  • Make the Keys their own county.
So you'll combine counties with under 50k, and then create a new one well under 20k people?
The Keys have a population of 73,090, per the 2010 census.
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Re: Fictional Municipality/County Changes
« Reply #168 on: December 03, 2022, 03:17:47 PM »

Florida: (presented with no thought as to feasibility :popcorn: )

  • Split Volusia County between west (county seat: DeLand) and east (county seat: Daytona Beach).
  • Merge Jacksonville Beach, Atlantic Beach, Neptune Beach, and Baldwin into Jacksonville (consolidated with Duval County).
  • Merge each of the twenty-six counties with a population under 50,000 with their neighbors or, where more practicable, each other.
  • Make Miami (including Key Biscayne and intervening unincorporated lands) an independent city, and rename the county from which it separates back to Dade County.
  • Make Orlando (including intervening CDPs and unincorporated lands) an independent city, and merge the eastern remnant of Orange County with Seminole County.
  • Make the Keys their own county.
  • Merge all other cities in Miami-Dade County into Miami. They alrealdy have same house numbering system as Miami.
  • Merge all other cities in Orange County into Orlando.     
  • Merge all other cities in Marion County into Ocala.
  • Merge Pinellas Park, Largo, Clearwater, Dunedin and Tarpon Springs into St. Petersburg, and make St. Petersburg an indepedent city.
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Re: Fictional Municipality/County Changes
« Reply #169 on: December 03, 2022, 03:23:54 PM »

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  • Merge each of the twenty-six counties with a population under 50,000 with their neighbors or, where more practicable, each other.
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  • Make the Keys their own county.
So you'll combine counties with under 50k, and then create a new one well under 20k people?
The Keys have a population of 73,090, per the 2010 census.

You're right. I don't know why the first site that popped up on Google (some real estate) said 12k.

So basically you just want to add the mainland parts of Monroe County to Collier?
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« Reply #170 on: December 03, 2022, 03:37:36 PM »

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  • Merge each of the twenty-six counties with a population under 50,000 with their neighbors or, where more practicable, each other.
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  • Make the Keys their own county.
So you'll combine counties with under 50k, and then create a new one well under 20k people?
The Keys have a population of 73,090, per the 2010 census.
You're right. I don't know why the first site that popped up on Google (some real estate) said 12k.

So basically you just want to add the mainland parts of Monroe County to Collier?
Sure; it never made sense to me that the Keys were physically disconnected from the rest of their county.
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