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jeffandnicole:

--- Quote from: MASTERNC on January 30, 2023, 04:23:40 PM ---Sounds like a PA state representative wants the PTC to join the transponder discrimination game because he thinks the Toll by Plate rates are too high.

https://patch.com/pennsylvania/across-pa/pa-turnpikes-massive-tolling-increases-must-be-stopped-lawmakers

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This bill, as stated in the article, doesn't require the cash price to drop.  It doesn't encourage residents to get an EZ Pass either.  The theory, I'm guessing, is the if they raise the cost of a trip to out-of-state tag holders, the cash price will drop, which I will believe isn't going to actually happen.

MASTERNC:

--- Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 30, 2023, 07:26:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: MASTERNC on January 30, 2023, 04:23:40 PM ---Sounds like a PA state representative wants the PTC to join the transponder discrimination game because he thinks the Toll by Plate rates are too high.

https://patch.com/pennsylvania/across-pa/pa-turnpikes-massive-tolling-increases-must-be-stopped-lawmakers

--- End quote ---

This bill, as stated in the article, doesn't require the cash price to drop.  It doesn't encourage residents to get an EZ Pass either.  The theory, I'm guessing, is the if they raise the cost of a trip to out-of-state tag holders, the cash price will drop, which I will believe isn't going to actually happen.

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Maybe they should instead eliminate the annual and retailer convenience fees for an E-ZPass (the latter of which seems unique to PA) and offer something akin to New York’s pay-per-trip option.

sbeaver44:

--- Quote from: MASTERNC on January 30, 2023, 04:23:40 PM ---Sounds like a PA state representative wants the PTC to join the transponder discrimination game because he thinks the Toll by Plate rates are too high.

https://patch.com/pennsylvania/across-pa/pa-turnpikes-massive-tolling-increases-must-be-stopped-lawmakers

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I hate transponder discrimination.  To me, this is the antithesis of the entire EZPass idea.  It’s a consortium.  I have a PTC-issued EZPass.  It drives me insane when I go to Long Island and have to pay the toll-by-mail rate.

Even if you want to make the argument that it’s a “outside agency toll”, I would guess those are settled in large batches like an ACH between agencies.  Charge me the EZPass rate and add a 3% or 25 cent charge.  None of this “well if your EZPass was issued by NY it would be $6 but for you it’s $10.17” bs.  New York is not mailing me a bill and hoping they collect, which I imagine is the justification for the massive spread between the in state EZPass rate and the toll-by-mail rate.  EZPass is like a 99% guaranteed collection rate for them. 

If I lived in Ohio and had to drive to Philadelphia with an Ohio Tpk EZPass and had to pay the $80 or whatever made up number is the toll-by-plate rate to Valley Forge nowadays, I’d be livid.

Also, I wish the PTC would either reduce the $1.80 minimum EZPass toll, or make a “frequent commuter” plan.  I remember NY Thruway years back charged me 19 cents to go from Rt 332 to I-490, so there is no reason $1.80 needs to be the minimum.  But I’m also sure the PTC knows that $1.80 for the 5 miles between Harrisburg West and Harrisburg East is a gold mine for them.

A great way to reduce congestion on I-83 in Harrisburg would be some sort of incentive plan to divert through traffic via the I-76 bridge and I-283 North back to the Eisenhower.  Maybe something like a 20 trip plan at 25% discounted average trip cost vs single trip. 

jeffandnicole:

--- Quote from: sbeaver44 on February 03, 2023, 08:19:52 PM ---Also, I wish the PTC would either reduce the $1.80 minimum EZPass toll, or make a “frequent commuter” plan.  I remember NY Thruway years back charged me 19 cents to go from Rt 332 to I-490, so there is no reason $1.80 needs to be the minimum.  But I’m also sure the PTC knows that $1.80 for the 5 miles between Harrisburg West and Harrisburg East is a gold mine for them.

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Not for nothing, but have you driven the Thruway lately?  The Thruway has more potholes than an unkept dirt road.  The PA Turnpike is quite smooth.

ARMOURERERIC:
I drove the Thruway from 290 to Irving in July, road was crap.  Got my pay by plate bill for 2 crossing on 190 and the Truway toll, $5.90 including the $2.00 bill fee.  Frankly, way to low for the benefit I got in return.

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