Control Cities That Skip Entire States on the Route

[sprjus4]

Speaking of US 13, Norfolk is used as a control (along with Salisbury) for the Puncheon Run Connector exit on DE 1 South.  If you ask me, I wish DelDOT would use Norfolk as a control (along with Dover) for the DE 1 exit (Exit 4) on I-95 South (NB would be Christiana/Dover).

What does US 13 use in Norfolk?

Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8721407,-76.1955464,3a,75y,1.59h,89.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBaY59uvycbd89399RYNYgg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8969211,-76.1480952,3a,75y,78.74h,88.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saVa9vY6CJCjqW6gj-n5RhA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9017414,-76.1299408,3a,75y,52.56h,95.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgXqkntGQAoTouNPap5fDDw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9037047,-76.1294061,3a,75y,95.36h,91.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svZFOUAvDz_3GP6hslvYOiA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1

[Roadgeekteen]

Speaking of US 13, Norfolk is used as a control (along with Salisbury) for the Puncheon Run Connector exit on DE 1 South.  If you ask me, I wish DelDOT would use Norfolk as a control (along with Dover) for the DE 1 exit (Exit 4) on I-95 South (NB would be Christiana/Dover).

What does US 13 use in Norfolk?

Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8721407,-76.1955464,3a,75y,1.59h,89.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBaY59uvycbd89399RYNYgg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8969211,-76.1480952,3a,75y,78.74h,88.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saVa9vY6CJCjqW6gj-n5RhA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9017414,-76.1299408,3a,75y,52.56h,95.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgXqkntGQAoTouNPap5fDDw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9037047,-76.1294061,3a,75y,95.36h,91.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svZFOUAvDz_3GP6hslvYOiA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1

I think it should have Sailsbury or even Philadelphia on some signs.

[sprjus4]

Speaking of US 13, Norfolk is used as a control (along with Salisbury) for the Puncheon Run Connector exit on DE 1 South.  If you ask me, I wish DelDOT would use Norfolk as a control (along with Dover) for the DE 1 exit (Exit 4) on I-95 South (NB would be Christiana/Dover).

What does US 13 use in Norfolk?

Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8721407,-76.1955464,3a,75y,1.59h,89.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBaY59uvycbd89399RYNYgg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8969211,-76.1480952,3a,75y,78.74h,88.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saVa9vY6CJCjqW6gj-n5RhA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9017414,-76.1299408,3a,75y,52.56h,95.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgXqkntGQAoTouNPap5fDDw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9037047,-76.1294061,3a,75y,95.36h,91.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svZFOUAvDz_3GP6hslvYOiA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1

I think it should have Sailsbury or even Philadelphia on some signs.

One used to exist on the CBBT facility itself for Philadelphia, though has been since removed due to construction related to the parallel tunnel project.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9643394,-76.1133732,3a,23.1y,186.26h,95.23t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sz6d6cEP9PsXqlphwdjM1Gg!2e0!5s20140901T000000!7i13312!8i6656

[ilpt4u]

I'm going to revive an old thread...Found another one of these in Illinois that I didn't know about - Tulsa signed as a control on I-255 South in the Metro East of St Louis.

Did some driving around today, and noticed this. I've never seen Tulsa on the signs from the I-64 EB or WB exits nor the 55/70 exits to I-255, but on the mainline, it is there. Of course, part of the reason I never noticed this - today was my first time actually driving on I-255

IDOT recently completely rebuilt I-255 between I-64 and IL 15 this summer (with the interstate closed during the construction) so this BGS in the image from billburmaster.com's page on I-255 has been replaced, but the Memphis/Tulsa co-controls are still posted. I thought about stopping to take a picture of the new sign, but I didn't this trip - it is a pretty standard BGS. I was just shocked by Tulsa

Sourced from http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/illinois/interstate/255.html

[Scott5114]

Seeing "Tulsa" paired with "US-50" is the real eye-opener here, considering US-50 doesn't even get remotely close to Oklahoma at any point.

[ilpt4u]

Seeing "Tulsa" paired with "US-50" is the real eye-opener here, considering US-50 doesn't even get remotely close to Oklahoma at any point.

US 50 enters I-255 here from I-64

I kinda wish I took a picture of the new BGS, now - I don't think US 50 is signed on the new one. If it is, it certainly didn't stand out to me like Tulsa did

Maybe I'll go for another drive sometime and grab it

[3467]

In was being somewhat humorous on the 57 thread but IDOT  just might sign it Dallas or Texas at its origin!
I assume it's because 55 splits off to meet 57 and the next Interstate is 44.
50 splits off of 44 and In Illinois off 64 though as we have pointed out 64 and 59 can both get you to Cincinnati in about the same distance.

[Bitmapped]

WVDOH uses Grafton and Romney as the control cities for US 50, skipping over the Garrett County part of Maryland. Red House (at junction of US 50 and US 219) is used as a control city for US 219, although it's not clear if Maryland considers it a control city for US 50 as well because the only other state route intersection (at MD 560) lacks destination signage.

This is a case where I've thought WV should use Red House as a control city. Grafton to Romney is about 87 miles, and Red House is a reasonably well known location in the area.

[I-55]

US-6 in Napoleon, OH exits US-24 with control cities of Kendallville, IN, and Chicago, IL.

I also remember seeing Chicago on a distance sign on US-30 in Ohio. I can't find it on GSV so it may have been removed.

[Bitmapped]

Ohio and Pennsylvania both skip over West Virginia for their signed control cities along US 30. WVDOH uses Chester, WV as a control city in addition to Pittsburgh, PA and East Liverpool, OH as used by the other states.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

Duluth is signed at the western US 41/M-28 split, skipping Superior and Wisconsin.

[PurdueBill]

US-6 in Napoleon, OH exits US-24 with control cities of Kendallville, IN, and Chicago, IL.

I also remember seeing Chicago on a distance sign on US-30 in Ohio. I can't find it on GSV so it may have been removed.

Somewhere I have a picture (or two) of that sign, but I didn't realize it was gone (the last time by there was in February thanks to COVID) despite it being a favorite.  Three cities listed, from three different states (Van Wert, Fort Wayne, Chicago). It was just west of OH 66.  The sign after the Middle Point exit shows only Van Wert and Fort Wayne as always.

[Roadgeekteen]

Ohio and Pennsylvania both skip over West Virginia for their signed control cities along US 30. WVDOH uses Chester, WV as a control city in addition to Pittsburgh, PA and East Liverpool, OH as used by the other states.

Isn't US 30 in WV for like 2 miles?

[thenetwork]

Ohio and Pennsylvania both skip over West Virginia for their signed control cities along US 30. WVDOH uses Chester, WV as a control city in addition to Pittsburgh, PA and East Liverpool, OH as used by the other states.

Isn't US 30 in WV for like 2 miles?

Ohio and Pennsylvania both skip over West Virginia for their signed control cities along US 30. WVDOH uses Chester, WV as a control city in addition to Pittsburgh, PA and East Liverpool, OH as used by the other states.

Isn't US 30 in WV for like 2 miles?

Kinda like the west side of I-275 around Cincinnati.  I don't think I ever saw Kentucky or Ohio listing (Lawrenceburg), Indiana as a control city for that +/- 2-mile section.

[NWI_Irish96]

Ohio and Pennsylvania both skip over West Virginia for their signed control cities along US 30. WVDOH uses Chester, WV as a control city in addition to Pittsburgh, PA and East Liverpool, OH as used by the other states.

Isn't US 30 in WV for like 2 miles?

Ohio and Pennsylvania both skip over West Virginia for their signed control cities along US 30. WVDOH uses Chester, WV as a control city in addition to Pittsburgh, PA and East Liverpool, OH as used by the other states.

Isn't US 30 in WV for like 2 miles?

Kinda like the west side of I-275 around Cincinnati.  I don't think I ever saw Kentucky or Ohio listing (Lawrenceburg), Indiana as a control city for that +/- 2-mile section.

The KY 8 approach to the I-275 interchange lists Lawrenceburg as a destination.

[dkblake]

I didn't see this listed on the thread, but the I-84 and I-380 split heading out of Scranton references New England for I-84 (skipping NY) and New York City for I-380 (skipping NJ).

[amroad17]

Ohio and Pennsylvania both skip over West Virginia for their signed control cities along US 30. WVDOH uses Chester, WV as a control city in addition to Pittsburgh, PA and East Liverpool, OH as used by the other states.

Isn't US 30 in WV for like 2 miles?

Ohio and Pennsylvania both skip over West Virginia for their signed control cities along US 30. WVDOH uses Chester, WV as a control city in addition to Pittsburgh, PA and East Liverpool, OH as used by the other states.

Isn't US 30 in WV for like 2 miles?

Kinda like the west side of I-275 around Cincinnati.  I don't think I ever saw Kentucky or Ohio listing (Lawrenceburg), Indiana as a control city for that +/- 2-mile section.

The KY 8 approach to the I-275 interchange lists Lawrenceburg as a destination.

So does the Airport, KY 237, and Graves Road interchange approaches.

Airport: https://goo.gl/maps/oFXmp9duyagED9XA8
KY 237: https://goo.gl/maps/ABhH7ZTVH4hk8w787

The only two mentions of Lawrenceburg in Ohio are on two different mileage signs--one after the US 127/Hamilton Ave. interchange (WB on I-275) and one SB on I-275 after the I-74/I-275 western split.  The control point for I-275 South toward Indiana is Kentucky both at I-275/I-74 western split and at the Kilby Rd. interchange.

I-275 West: https://goo.gl/maps/vmHymjvUTVdEJi9d6
I-275 South: https://goo.gl/maps/yanrhfk3bGswCUhD6
Kilby Rd.: https://goo.gl/maps/nqT5DMEp8WBsP8FX8

[amroad17]

US-6 in Napoleon, OH exits US-24 with control cities of Kendallville, IN, and Chicago, IL.

I also remember seeing Chicago on a distance sign on US-30 in Ohio. I can't find it on GSV so it may have been removed.

Somewhere I have a picture (or two) of that sign, but I didn't realize it was gone (the last time by there was in February thanks to COVID) despite it being a favorite.  Three cities listed, from three different states (Van Wert, Fort Wayne, Chicago). It was just west of OH 66.  The sign after the Middle Point exit shows only Van Wert and Fort Wayne as always.

Both signs listing Chicago are gone.  The one west of the US 224 interchange was also taken down.  Maybe because US 30 does not go through Chicago proper?

I thought these signs were informative, especially if a motorist wanted to shunpike from that region of Ohio.  The problem was Indiana did not have any mileage signs along US 30 listing Chicago on them.

It appears that these distance signs were taken down sometime between 2014 and 2018 (probably 2016).  Here is the one PurdueBill mentioned: https://goo.gl/maps/gcWmFKgt9jfStfLf6

[Road Hog]

Seeing "Tulsa" paired with "US-50" is the real eye-opener here, considering US-50 doesn't even get remotely close to Oklahoma at any point.

Just seeing Tulsa signposted anywhere in Illinois is gobsmacking, but Memphis did set a precedent on I-57.

Isn't Nashville also signed on I-24 down south too?

[ilpt4u]

Seeing "Tulsa" paired with "US-50" is the real eye-opener here, considering US-50 doesn't even get remotely close to Oklahoma at any point.

Just seeing Tulsa signposted anywhere in Illinois is gobsmacking, but Memphis did set a precedent on I-57.

Isn't Nashville also signed on I-24 down south too?

First signed along I-64 EB just before reaching I-57/Mt Vernon IL, on an advance BGS for I-24, directing that traffic to follow I-57 South

Sourced from http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/illinois/interstate/24.html

[Roadgeekteen]

Seeing "Tulsa" paired with "US-50" is the real eye-opener here, considering US-50 doesn't even get remotely close to Oklahoma at any point.

Just seeing Tulsa signposted anywhere in Illinois is gobsmacking, but Memphis did set a precedent on I-57.

Isn't Nashville also signed on I-24 down south too?

I am inclined to think that Springfield should be signed instead.

[ilpt4u]

Seeing "Tulsa" paired with "US-50" is the real eye-opener here, considering US-50 doesn't even get remotely close to Oklahoma at any point.

Just seeing Tulsa signposted anywhere in Illinois is gobsmacking, but Memphis did set a precedent on I-57.

Isn't Nashville also signed on I-24 down south too?

I am inclined to think that Springfield should be signed instead.

MoDOT uses Tulsa for I-44, both in Downtown STL and on the I-270 Beltway, so being consistent is correct with IDOT signing the I-255 part of the Beltway with the controls of the Radials

I just think Tulsa should be posted on the BGSs on I-55/I-70 SB/WB and I-64 WB for the I-255 SB exit, in addition to the mainline

Far radial controls on a Beltway/Bypass route need to be signed on the radial approaches that would use it, if you want to direct traffic to use the Beltway/Bypass, anyway

[roadman65]

Seeing "Tulsa" paired with "US-50" is the real eye-opener here, considering US-50 doesn't even get remotely close to Oklahoma at any point.

US 50 enters I-255 here from I-64

I kinda wish I took a picture of the new BGS, now - I don't think US 50 is signed on the new one. If it is, it certainly didn't stand out to me like Tulsa did

Maybe I'll go for another drive sometime and grab it

it still does, however the freeway is closed for repairs when I was there. However still in September of this year US 50 was still signed there.

[ilpt4u]

Seeing "Tulsa" paired with "US-50" is the real eye-opener here, considering US-50 doesn't even get remotely close to Oklahoma at any point.

US 50 enters I-255 here from I-64

I kinda wish I took a picture of the new BGS, now - I don't think US 50 is signed on the new one. If it is, it certainly didn't stand out to me like Tulsa did

Maybe I'll go for another drive sometime and grab it

it still does, however the freeway is closed for repairs when I was there. However still in September of this year US 50 was still signed there.

I'll try to swing back up that way later this week or the weekend and if that BGS has been replaced, I'll snap a picture this time

IDOT hosts the pictures of the reopening ceremony/Press Conference. Pretty sure the BGS in question is in the background, but we only see the back of it...

Sourced from https://www.flickr.com/photos/idot_illinois/sets/72157716636181408/

They had I-255 and US 67 (???) shields set up for the reopening ceremony surrounding the podium...Are MoDOT and IDOT considering moving US 67 to I-255 instead of thru St Louis and Alton?

[Scott5114]

Seeing "Tulsa" paired with "US-50" is the real eye-opener here, considering US-50 doesn't even get remotely close to Oklahoma at any point.

Just seeing Tulsa signposted anywhere in Illinois is gobsmacking, but Memphis did set a precedent on I-57.

Isn't Nashville also signed on I-24 down south too?

I am inclined to think that Springfield should be signed instead.

Springfield would make a better control city for I-44 WB, were it not for the fact that the next major city on I-55 NB is...Springfield IL. You could do something like you see in Memphis ("Jackson Miss" vs "Jackson Tenn") and do "Springfield Mo" and "Springfield Ill", but using "Tulsa" and "Chicago" neatly sidesteps the issue entirely.

Once you get out of metro St. Louis on I-44 the control city does, in fact, change to Springfield (and Joplin once you pass Springfield).