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Department of Redundancy Department
« on: December 26, 2013, 05:42:59 PM »

For all redundant signage, not necessarily bad or ugly.  Some could even be good.

From the Chicago Department of Redundancy Department at I-90/94 and Taylor St:



How many times does one need to say "one way"?
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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2013, 05:48:24 PM »

On the New Jersey Turnpike, you will find two sets of exit signs in some places, and you can see them both.
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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2013, 08:13:40 PM »

On I-15, just south of Idaho Falls:

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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2013, 08:25:14 PM »

I've seen intersections with up to five one way signs facing one direction. Wish I could remember where it was.
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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2013, 10:01:34 PM »

On the New Jersey Turnpike, you will find two sets of exit signs in some places, and you can see them both.

I believe that you are supposed to convey the same message with multiple signs at set distances according to the MUTCD. Unless it said 'EXIT 11 ↗' on two signs one at the gore point and the other right next to the gore, it's not redundant.
On I-15, just south of Idaho Falls:



Quite possibly the most useless exit sign I've ever seen.
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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2013, 10:55:03 PM »



These have been replaced and there's no longer a redundancy. At the end of KY 341 near Midway. Photo taken in 2000.



From 2011, at the end of KY 227 in Scott County.
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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2013, 10:06:34 AM »

On I-15, just south of Idaho Falls:



Just looked on Google Street View, and as of September 2011, that advance BGS and the one pointing to the off-ramp both showed "Exit 113", no actual road/street/destination.  But, according to the map Google has of the area, the cross-road is West 65th Street -- amazing that someone couldn't have put a sign with that on it before now (whether the cross-road was named at the time of the first BGSes or not), and avoided the embarrassment of redunduncy.
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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2013, 10:35:57 AM »

North Dakota does the same thing except there is no tab on the ahead exit sign.  http://goo.gl/maps/jQev6

Only other sign is the sign in the gore:  http://goo.gl/maps/WcXBD
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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2013, 10:58:25 AM »

On the New Jersey Turnpike, you will find two sets of exit signs in some places, and you can see them both.

Do you mean the inner/outer drives?  They are 2 separate roadways, and thus need two separate signs. While a driver could get confused looking at the wrong signage, but that'll be their own damn fault. 
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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2013, 11:11:42 AM »

Just looked on Google Street View, and as of September 2011, that advance BGS and the one pointing to the off-ramp both showed "Exit 113", no actual road/street/destination.  But, according to the map Google has of the area, the cross-road is West 65th Street -- amazing that someone couldn't have put a sign with that on it before now (whether the cross-road was named at the time of the first BGSes or not), and avoided the embarrassment of redunduncy.

Until the mid-00's, this exit was for US 26/BL-15.  But that was moved a few miles north when a new bridge was built over the Snake River.  That's when this sign went up.  You're right, it should read "West 65th St" or something about a destination, but instead we got that redundant beauty!
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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2013, 09:12:02 PM »

I want to say I'm supposed to stay to the right at this location in Galax VA, but I'm not entirely sure...

http://goo.gl/maps/MtcvP

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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2013, 08:09:59 AM »

I want to say I'm supposed to stay to the right at this location in Galax VA, but I'm not entirely sure...

http://goo.gl/maps/MtcvP

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And completely useless as it's pointing in the wrong direction.  :-D
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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2013, 11:38:53 AM »

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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2013, 11:41:56 AM »



Even better is that each sign contains a different series. (Left: Series D or maybe E, Right: Series EM)
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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2013, 12:04:34 PM »





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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2013, 12:49:13 PM »

I've got a bunch of pictures where sign replacements were ongoing, and both the old and new signs were still up, but I don't think that's what we're shooting for.

West Virginia posts ground-style signs at the gore points at interstate intersections, something similar to the New Hampshire example above.
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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2013, 12:56:38 PM »

I want to say I'm supposed to stay to the right at this location in Galax VA, but I'm not entirely sure...

http://goo.gl/maps/MtcvP

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Is this facing in the wrong direction?
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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2013, 02:25:52 PM »

Oh Richmond, you so crazy. (This was taken in 2009 and is still there. There was a VDOT-installed VA 76 shield complete with VDOT sticker there prior to then.)

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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2013, 05:28:51 PM »

I want to say I'm supposed to stay to the right at this location in Galax VA, but I'm not entirely sure...

http://goo.gl/maps/MtcvP

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Is this facing in the wrong direction?

Yes...this sign has been turned around at some point.  Here is a Michael Summa picture from 1994 of it being in the right place:

http://www.millenniumhwy.net/summa/summa-Pages/Image341.html

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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2013, 12:04:39 AM »

I've seen a few VDOT installations recently that say "Route I-95" and/or "Route I-64".
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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2013, 11:25:06 AM »

I've seen a few VDOT installations recently that say "Route I-95" and/or "Route I-64".

Do you mean literally "Route I-95,", or something like this:



If it's the first, then it's like something I've heard my brother-in-law complain about.  He drives scrap metal to recycling facilities, and he says it annoys him when many of his co-workers refer to "Interstate I-5." 
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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2013, 12:57:50 PM »

Google Street View is failing me at the moment, but I was in Savannah a few weeks ago and noticed dozens of trailblazers pointing the way to "Interstate I-16".
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« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2013, 05:41:13 PM »

There are some sloppy green-out signs on I-390 south listing the distance to "Route I-86". http://goo.gl/maps/U1wRL

Yes, they did abbreviate "route" as "rte".  Yes, that is original to the sign.  No, I don't know what region 4 was thinking.

At least the original wording didn't say "Rte. NY 17".
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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2013, 10:11:44 PM »

Missouri does the same thing: Route I-44."
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Re: Department of Redundancy Department
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2013, 10:47:07 PM »



Even better is that each sign contains a different series. (Left: Series D or maybe E, Right: Series EM)

Both Series EM, but the left has reduced interletter spacing.



In northwest Columbus, at The Mall at Tuttle Crossing, there are signs directing traffic to "Interstate I-"
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