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Title: Signal Poles
Post by: roadman65 on March 19, 2023, 04:37:34 PM
Thought I'd start a topic about signal pole designs.

One that got my attention was the ones that both Louisiana and Texas both use with flat surfaces on a round pole.

Like this. https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52081221812

Also I often wondered why the base on these has that box the same as traditional roadway lighting poles do.
Title: Re: Signal Poles
Post by: Hobart on March 20, 2023, 12:36:29 AM
Gonna jump to one of the weirder examples first, in Juneau Alaska:

https://www.google.com/maps/@58.3703011,-134.5868179,3a,48.9y,115.39h,98.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLcC_AfiOiGq3XKsWVmnZwg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I've always found J-shaped signal poles interesting; they're totally needless, but I guess they get the left turn signal in better eyeshot of the left turn lane?

I've always liked the Alaskan mast arms too, with their gentle upwards slope.

Are trusses fair game for this channel?
Title: Re: Signal Poles
Post by: Big John on March 20, 2023, 01:33:14 AM
^^ There are a few instances of J-arms in California as well.
Title: Re: Signal Poles
Post by: ErmineNotyours on March 20, 2023, 02:34:15 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46993456714_30367633d6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eADKsj)

British Columbia curved masts in storage in Victoria.  One of their distinctive masts appeared in the movie Insomnia, set in Alaska.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46993951914_df63c5a942_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eAGhEf)
Title: Re: Signal Poles
Post by: wanderer2575 on March 20, 2023, 09:08:02 AM
Quote from: Hobart on March 20, 2023, 12:36:29 AM
Gonna jump to one of the weirder examples first, in Juneau Alaska:

https://www.google.com/maps/@58.3703011,-134.5868179,3a,48.9y,115.39h,98.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLcC_AfiOiGq3XKsWVmnZwg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I've always found J-shaped signal poles interesting; they're totally needless, but I guess they get the left turn signal in better eyeshot of the left turn lane?

That's always been my assumption.  A lower signal means the driver need not crane his/her neck to see it.  It's over a median with no traffic, so no clearance issue.
Title: Re: Signal Poles
Post by: roadman65 on March 20, 2023, 09:37:22 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on March 20, 2023, 02:34:15 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46993456714_30367633d6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eADKsj)

British Columbia curved masts in storage in Victoria.  One of their distinctive masts appeared in the movie Insomnia, set in Alaska.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46993951914_df63c5a942_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eAGhEf)

NASA Causeway in Florida uses j poles.
https://goo.gl/maps/NsYEsjzBRonHUTP39
Title: Re: Signal Poles
Post by: roadfro on March 20, 2023, 11:39:51 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on March 20, 2023, 09:08:02 AM
Quote from: Hobart on March 20, 2023, 12:36:29 AM
Gonna jump to one of the weirder examples first, in Juneau Alaska:

https://www.google.com/maps/@58.3703011,-134.5868179,3a,48.9y,115.39h,98.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLcC_AfiOiGq3XKsWVmnZwg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I've always found J-shaped signal poles interesting; they're totally needless, but I guess they get the left turn signal in better eyeshot of the left turn lane?

That's always been my assumption.  A lower signal means the driver need not crane his/her neck to see it.  It's over a median with no traffic, so no clearance issue.

I've speculated in some thread over on the Pacific Southwest board that the j-shaped mast arm was meant to be a replacement for a turn signal post-mounted at the nose of a median that kept getting knocked down by cars. At least in several of the California examples I've seen, the curved part of the mast arm appears to have been added later. There's also a few examples like this in California where the curved part of the mast arm is over a very narrow median (sometimes just a foot or two wide).