News:

Thank you for your patience during the Forum downtime while we upgraded the software. Welcome back and see this thread for some new features and other changes to the forum.

Main Menu

Greenville is a metro by itself in its own county?

Started by tolbs17, December 30, 2019, 10:36:10 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

tolbs17



index

However, its combined statistical area is 7. Because of the way MSAs are designated, many MSAs are just one county. However the definition of a metro isn't always limited to the MSA, that's just what the Census Bureau considers it to be for the purpose of statistics. For example, Anson County here in the Charlotte area is not considered by the Census Bureau to be in Charlotte's MSA or CSA, but residents of the Charlotte area consider it to be part of the Charlotte metro.

In the case of Greenville it seems Pitt County is about as far as its influence goes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenville-Kinston-Washington_CSA

I love my 2010 Ford Explorer.



Counties traveled

tolbs17

Quote from: index on December 30, 2019, 10:47:54 PM
However, its combined statistical area is 7. Because of the way MSAs are designated, many MSAs are just one county. However the definition of a metro isn't always limited to the MSA, that's just what the Census Bureau considers it to be for the purpose of statistics. For example, Anson County here in the Charlotte area is not considered by the Census Bureau to be in Charlotte's MSA or CSA, but residents of the Charlotte area consider it to be part of the Charlotte metro.

In the case of Greenville it seems Pitt County is about as far as its influence goes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenville-Kinston-Washington_CSA
Also the crazy thing is how does Farmville have >10,000 people?

And saying the area is >91% white and only 5% black, that can't be right.

sprjus4

Quote from: tolbs17 on December 30, 2019, 10:54:34 PM
Also the crazy thing is how does Farmville have >10,000 people?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmville,_North_Carolina

According to this, it's about 5,000 people.

Appears to be a small town serving as a outer suburb for Greenville commuters with easy access to the US-264 freeway in/out of the city.

tolbs17

Quote from: sprjus4 on December 30, 2019, 10:58:26 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on December 30, 2019, 10:54:34 PM
Also the crazy thing is how does Farmville have >10,000 people?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmville,_North_Carolina

According to this, it's about 5,000 people.

Appears to be a small town serving as a outer suburb for Greenville commuters with easy access to the US-264 freeway in/out of the city.
Yes, it's fun going over there.

US 89

Always confused me that NC has both a Greenville and Greensboro. Doesn’t help that SC has a major Greenville that’s right down I-85 from Greensboro.

kevinb1994

Quote from: US 89 on December 30, 2019, 11:08:16 PM
Always confused me that NC has both a Greenville and Greensboro. Doesn't help that SC has a major Greenville that's right down I-85 from Greensboro.
Probably cause that there was just one Carolina to begin with!

csw

Quote from: kevinb1994 on December 31, 2019, 02:16:21 AM
Quote from: US 89 on December 30, 2019, 11:08:16 PM
Always confused me that NC has both a Greenville and Greensboro. Doesn't help that SC has a major Greenville that's right down I-85 from Greensboro.
Probably cause that there was just one Carolina to begin with!
Not so much.
Greenville, SC, incorporated in 1831; Greenville, NC, settled in 1771; Greensboro, NC, established in 1808.
Province of Carolina split into North and South 1729.

kevinb1994

Quote from: csw on December 31, 2019, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on December 31, 2019, 02:16:21 AM
Quote from: US 89 on December 30, 2019, 11:08:16 PM
Always confused me that NC has both a Greenville and Greensboro. Doesn't help that SC has a major Greenville that's right down I-85 from Greensboro.
Probably cause that there was just one Carolina to begin with!
Not so much.
Greenville, SC, incorporated in 1831; Greenville, NC, settled in 1771; Greensboro, NC, established in 1808.
Province of Carolina split into North and South 1729.
Maybe Greensboro, NC should have stayed as Guilford Court House, Greenville, NC should have stayed as Martinsboro, and Greenville, SC should have stayed as Pleasantburg.

golden eagle

San Diego and Las Vegas are one-county metros, though that could lend themselves to being in geographically large counties. Los Angeles was also a one-county metro, but Orange County has now been absorbed into Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim metropolitan area.

Road Hog

Crazy that DFW is only about 15 years from passing Chicago to be the No. 3 metro at current growth rates. And Houston is right behind.

Rothman

Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Flint1979

Flint, Michigan's metro area is just Genesee County but metro areas extend into multiple counties

tolbs17

Well Edgecombe and Martin county kinda match the feeling of the Greenville metro.

Also, would this thread be better in Urban Planning and design?

NE2

pre-1945 Florida route log

I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".

Roadgeekteen

Isn't Greenville and Spartanburg in the same metro?
God-emperor of Alanland, king of all the goats and goat-like creatures

Current Interstate map I am making:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&mid=1PEDVyNb1skhnkPkgXi8JMaaudM2zI-Y&ll=29.05778059819179%2C-82.48856825&z=5

hotdogPi

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 01, 2021, 05:34:36 PM
Isn't Greenville and Spartanburg in the same metro?

The OP is talking about Greenville NC, not Greenville SC.
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13, 44, 50
MA 22, 40, 107, 109, 117, 119, 126, 141, 159
NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: 1 on May 01, 2021, 05:38:50 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 01, 2021, 05:34:36 PM
Isn't Greenville and Spartanburg in the same metro?

The OP is talking about Greenville NC, not Greenville SC.
Oops.
God-emperor of Alanland, king of all the goats and goat-like creatures

Current Interstate map I am making:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&mid=1PEDVyNb1skhnkPkgXi8JMaaudM2zI-Y&ll=29.05778059819179%2C-82.48856825&z=5

Flint1979

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 01, 2021, 05:34:36 PM
Isn't Greenville and Spartanburg in the same metro?
I was there about 3 months ago they're a little ways apart. About 30 miles or so dunno if they are the same metro though.

ozarkman417

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 01, 2021, 05:34:36 PM
Isn't Greenville and Spartanburg in the same metro?
They are in different metros, but they share a Combined Statistical Area (CSA).

golden eagle

There quite a few urban areas that are geographically close (and even share media markets), but are considered separate metros. Greensboro and Winston-Salem and Raleigh-Durham in North Carolina, and Dallas-Fort Worth are among them.

sprjus4

#21
Hampton Roads could be considered two separate - the Southside (Norfolk, Virginia Beach, Chesapeake, Portsmouth, Suffolk) and the Peninsula (Hampton, Newport News), though I'd say they kind of act as one. It's similar to Raleigh-Durham.

The obvious elephant in the room with Hampton Roads is the James River / Hampton Roads waterway separating the two. There's only three connections - the I-64 Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel, the I-664 Monitor Merrimac Memorial Bridge Tunnel, and the US-17 / US-258 James River Bridge.

Unlike the other examples though, the regions do share a name that blankets all of it - Hampton Roads, 757, Tidewater, etc.

US 89

Quote from: golden eagle on May 22, 2021, 05:39:24 PM
There quite a few urban areas that are geographically close (and even share media markets), but are considered separate metros. Greensboro and Winston-Salem and Raleigh-Durham in North Carolina, and Dallas-Fort Worth are among them.

The DFW metroplex is one metropolitan area, divided into two "metropolitan divisions" in the same way Seattle-Tacoma is.

Hampton Roads is also just one metropolitan area according to census definitions.



Opinions expressed here on belong solely to the poster and do not represent or reflect the opinions or beliefs of AARoads, its creators and/or associates.