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Pete from Boston

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on November 06, 2017, 08:18:32 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on November 05, 2017, 08:15:41 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on November 05, 2017, 03:22:15 PM
A small nitpick:

VMS on Connecticut Turnpike the other day showed time and distance to the Milford Parkway.  Do locals use this name?  It isn't signed as such, and I would never have known it if I were not part of this secret society.

In the double secret skull and bones society, we refer to it as Route 796.

I've heard it referred to as the Milford Connector on a couple of local traffic reports.
They should sign it as I-795.

Aside from the fact that it's not up to Interstate standards, I'm not in favor of signing more one-mile Interstates.


RobbieL2415

Quote from: Alps on November 06, 2017, 08:42:22 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on November 06, 2017, 08:18:32 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on November 05, 2017, 08:15:41 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on November 05, 2017, 03:22:15 PM
A small nitpick:

VMS on Connecticut Turnpike the other day showed time and distance to the Milford Parkway.  Do locals use this name?  It isn't signed as such, and I would never have known it if I were not part of this secret society.

In the double secret skull and bones society, we refer to it as Route 796.

I've heard it referred to as the Milford Connector on a couple of local traffic reports.
They should sign it as I-795.
Except it's a parkway.
I know. T'was a tongue-in-cheek post.

MikeTheActuary

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on November 06, 2017, 09:11:56 PM
I know. T'was a tongue-in-cheek post.

If we're going to sign the darned thing, let's call it I-238.  The one out on the west coast is kinda lonely, and needs a sibling.  :D

Alps

Quote from: MikeTheActuary on November 06, 2017, 10:13:12 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on November 06, 2017, 09:11:56 PM
I know. T'was a tongue-in-cheek post.

If we're going to sign the darned thing, let's call it I-238.  The one out on the west coast is kinda lonely, and needs a sibling.  :D
I-138. Just to make people wonder where I-38 is.

southshore720

I used to live in Milford, CT and if you called it "The Connector," most people knew you were referring to the Milford Pkwy.

jp the roadgeek

It could use a promotion to a signed state route.  Route 238 is available, although in my proposed CT route renumbering, I had it as Route 115 (an offshoot of 15; current 115 became part of a revived CT 65 incorporating some pre-expressway routings of CT 8)
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

Alps

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on November 07, 2017, 07:30:54 PM
It could use a promotion to a signed state route.  Route 238 is available, although in my proposed CT route renumbering, I had it as Route 115 (an offshoot of 15; current 115 became part of a revived CT 65 incorporating some pre-expressway routings of CT 8)
Why? There are other unsigned routes that are more important to navigation. This is just "To 1/95" and "To 15". It doesn't serve any other function.

dgolub

Quote from: Alps on November 07, 2017, 11:47:43 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on November 07, 2017, 07:30:54 PM
It could use a promotion to a signed state route.  Route 238 is available, although in my proposed CT route renumbering, I had it as Route 115 (an offshoot of 15; current 115 became part of a revived CT 65 incorporating some pre-expressway routings of CT 8)
Why? There are other unsigned routes that are more important to navigation. This is just "To 1/95" and "To 15". It doesn't serve any other function.

Yeah, agreed.  Many of the unsigned routes in Connecticut function like county routes would in New York or New Jersey.  We'd benefit more from signing those than from signing the Milford Parkway.

shadyjay

In Maine, the Falmouth Spur (connecting the turnpike with US 1 and I-95, now I-295) was originally part of I-95, but when I-95 and I-295 were rerouted/extended, it became an unsigned route.  It has the secret designation of I-495 but it is not publically signed.  Mainly because, it connects the turnpike (now I-95) to I-295 (old I-95) and US 1.

Same thing for the Milford Parkway.  Its primarily a connector.  You take it to either get to CT 15 or to get to I-95/US 1, and functions perfectly fine, without having a public route number.  It, in my opinion, didn't deserve to get exit numbers, either!

dgolub

Quote from: shadyjay on November 08, 2017, 08:45:03 AM
Same thing for the Milford Parkway.  Its primarily a connector.  You take it to either get to CT 15 or to get to I-95/US 1, and functions perfectly fine, without having a public route number.  It, in my opinion, didn't deserve to get exit numbers, either!

The exit numbers are cool for roadgeeks, but they're probably confusing for everyone else.  Most people probably think of the Milford Parkway as just a long ramp, not a highway in its own right.

jp the roadgeek

One of CT's oldest BGS's is no more.  Farewell to the old non-reflective BGS for Exit 31 WB on I-84 in Southington.  It lived a good life.  Here is it's replacement:

Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

Alps

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on November 10, 2017, 07:43:32 PM
One of CT's oldest BGS's is no more.  Farewell to the old non-reflective BGS for Exit 31 WB on I-84 in Southington.  It lived a good life.  Here is it's replacement:


What's going on with that exit tab? Is that the old one?

briantroutman

^ Would not appear to be. The old one was center aligned with large radii on the border corners and no border between the tab and the guide sign.

https://goo.gl/maps/tcCuSnSjXzR2

Alps

Quote from: briantroutman on November 10, 2017, 11:25:29 PM
^ Would not appear to be. The old one was center aligned with large radii on the border corners and no border between the tab and the guide sign.

https://goo.gl/maps/tcCuSnSjXzR2
I didn't think so, but what a weird error for a new sign. White on black? White on brown?

shadyjay

From the contractor that brought you two Exit 31s, comes this!

:-D

southshore720

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on November 10, 2017, 07:43:32 PM
One of CT's oldest BGS's is no more.  Farewell to the old non-reflective BGS for Exit 31 WB on I-84 in Southington.  It lived a good life.  Here is it's replacement:



Hideous!  How hard can it be to match a correct exit tab?  Isn't there someone responsible for quality control on these projects?

MikeTheActuary

Quote from: southshore720 on November 12, 2017, 03:58:16 PMHideous!  How hard can it be to match a correct exit tab?  Isn't there someone responsible for quality control on these projects?

Does ConnDOT really have the budget for quality control anymore?

roadman

Quote from: MikeTheActuary on November 12, 2017, 05:28:22 PM
Quote from: southshore720 on November 12, 2017, 03:58:16 PMHideous!  How hard can it be to match a correct exit tab?  Isn't there someone responsible for quality control on these projects?

Does ConnDOT really have the budget for quality control anymore?
This was probably a case of the sign installer saying "It's the only EXIT 31 tab we have on the truck.  It'll do for now."  Of course, if ConnDOT wasn't so anal about insisting that HCR and other supplemental signs having separate exit tabs, this sort of thing wouldn't happen in the first place.
"And ninety-five is the route you were on.  It was not the speed limit sign."  - Jim Croce (from Speedball Tucker)

"My life has been a tapestry
Of years of roads and highway signs" (with apologies to Carole King and Tom Rush)

PHLBOS

#2493
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on November 10, 2017, 07:43:32 PM
One of CT's oldest BGS's is no more.  Farewell to the old non-reflective BGS for Exit 31 WB on I-84 in Southington.  It lived a good life.
Quote from: briantroutman on November 10, 2017, 11:25:29 PMThe old one was center aligned with large radii on the border corners and no border between the tab and the guide sign.
https://goo.gl/maps/tcCuSnSjXzR2
JP, believe it or not, that old Exit 31 BGS (shown in Brian's GSV post) is actually reflective.  Age just caused it to lose most of it.
GPS does NOT equal GOD

shadyjay

With this current sign project on I-84 ongoing, the last of the old non-button copy signs in the state are I-84 Exits 57-64 (and one old Exit 54-55 sign WB).  The oldest Phase III reflective background button copy dates to the mid/late 1980s on I-91 north of Exit 44 and on CT 2 & 9. 

CT 9 may hold the record for the longest stretch of roadway in the state without any new signs on it... from I-95 to Exit 20/I-91, that's 30 miles of every single primary guide sign being the one that was installed in the 1980s.  At some point during the 1990s, the text was changed on the Exit 3 sign to non-button copy, only when the destinations were altered.  Also, two overhead signs for Exit 11 were relocated from overhead to ground supports, but keeping the original sign).  Throughout sections of CT 2 and on I-91 north of Exit 42, some spot signs have been replaced over the years. 

RobbieL2415

Quote from: MikeTheActuary on November 12, 2017, 05:28:22 PM
Quote from: southshore720 on November 12, 2017, 03:58:16 PMHideous!  How hard can it be to match a correct exit tab?  Isn't there someone responsible for quality control on these projects?

Does ConnDOT really have the budget for quality control anymore?
Just look at their hack paving job on 91 South between Exits 27 and 26.  Or the ORIGINAL 1980S PAVEMENT WITH REFLECTOR BUMPS on I-84E in Vernon that continues to rot away.

Mergingtraffic

you still have these:

The first one is the last remaining non-reflective button copy sign on the I-84 mainline. Days are numbered.








I only take pics of good looking signs. Long live non-reflective button copy!
MergingTraffic https://www.flickr.com/photos/98731835@N05/

PHLBOS

Quote from: Mergingtraffic on November 13, 2017, 03:16:14 PM...the last remaining non-reflective button copy sign on the I-84 mainline. Days are numbered.
And it's a lot more worn since that pic was taken.
GPS does NOT equal GOD

Mergingtraffic

Quote from: PHLBOS on November 13, 2017, 04:29:46 PM
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on November 13, 2017, 03:16:14 PM...the last remaining non-reflective button copy sign on the I-84 mainline. Days are numbered.
And it's a lot more worn since that pic was taken.

For being 40 years old, it still reflects very well at night except for the shield. Will the new signs hold up as well in 40 years?
I only take pics of good looking signs. Long live non-reflective button copy!
MergingTraffic https://www.flickr.com/photos/98731835@N05/

Alps




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