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Title: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: US 89 on May 20, 2019, 02:49:07 PM
For the first time in just over two years, the Storm Prediction Center has issued a high risk of severe thunderstorms:

(https://i.imgur.com/yeprjIF.gif)

Most notably, the tornado-specific risk is 45%, which is more than the 30% required for a high risk:

(https://i.imgur.com/LxKGfzw.gif)

If you're in that area, stay alert. PDS tornado watches are already in effect for the TX panhandle and most of central OK.

edit: updated images to MNHighwayMan's permalinks
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: hotdogPi on May 20, 2019, 02:49:52 PM
Do I need to worry? (I'm barely out of the 2% region.)
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today, May 20, 2019
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 20, 2019, 03:35:49 PM
Quote from: 1 on May 20, 2019, 02:49:52 PM
Do I need to worry? (I'm barely out of the 2% region.)

Probably not.

Thanks for making this thread, US 89, because I thought about it, but didn't feel like going through the effort.

I did, however, make some permanent links to those images, since the images at those links be replaced tomorrow with tomorrow's outlooks.

https://i.imgur.com/yeprjIF.gif (https://i.imgur.com/yeprjIF.gif)
https://i.imgur.com/LxKGfzw.gif (https://i.imgur.com/LxKGfzw.gif)

Edit to add: the first tornado warnings have already been issued in both Texas and Oklahoma. Fun stuff.
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: hbelkins on May 20, 2019, 03:55:51 PM
Hopefully, we'll have some great chaser videos come from this.
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: TBKS1 on May 20, 2019, 04:30:00 PM
This is from the current Tornado Watch in Oklahoma, second time a maxed out probability watch has ever been issued by the SPC.

(https://i.imgur.com/UqBlqeQ.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/xdCP1Wn.png)
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 20, 2019, 04:49:48 PM
The first tornado warning to mention a confirmed tornado is/was in the area of Paducah and Childress, Texas.

And now a second confirmed tornado is located northwest of Cashion, Oklahoma, which is about ten miles north-northwest of Oklahoma City.

Quote from: hbelkins on May 20, 2019, 03:55:51 PM
Hopefully, we'll have some great chaser videos come from this.

If this becomes a tornado outbreak as suggested (which all signs are definitely still pointing to), we definitely will. :)
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: thspfc on May 20, 2019, 05:43:06 PM
They're just shrugging in Oklahoma right now . . . Anyways, we're far from the danger zone, but the weather tomorrow here isn't looking too good.
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on May 20, 2019, 06:15:54 PM
And we got to remember not all overpass and underpass are made the same way then the one who was hit by a tornado in Kansas in 1991.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHBZylcxIvw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJkDphU5olo
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: Scott5114 on May 20, 2019, 06:41:46 PM
I stayed home from work just to be cautious (that and I don't make much money on Mondays, so I'm not missing much). So far, the storms have just been bad enough to make KWTV's David Payne hyperventilate.
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 20, 2019, 08:01:46 PM
Notably, today is also the six-year anniversary of the 2013 Moore tornado, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Moore_tornado) the last tornado to be (indisputably) rated EF5.
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: Scott5114 on May 20, 2019, 08:20:57 PM
Several school districts canceled classes today to avoid a repeat of the 2013 Plaza Towers Elementary incident.
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: Road Hog on May 21, 2019, 09:44:03 AM
This outbreak for Oklahoma at least so far is the best you can hope for. A lot of cornfield storms and chaser videos and little damage.
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on May 21, 2019, 12:16:21 PM
I lived in Southern Indiana in March 2012 when a PDS Watch was issued and several tornadoes killed more than a dozen people.  Our house at the time did not have a basement and I was at work worried sick about my wife and kids.  The closest tornado ended up hitting 15 miles away, but right then  I vowed that would be the last house I live in without a basement until I'm too old to go up and down stairs.
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: hbelkins on May 21, 2019, 01:27:08 PM
It's amazing how thinking about certain things changes over the years. I remember when drivers were advised that they should seek shelter beneath a bridge in a tornado; that it was a safe place. Now it's just the opposite.

It's like a snake bite. I remember when Cutter sold kits with little scalpels and suction cups. If you were bitten by a "poisonous" snake, you were advised to cut an "X" over the wound, then suck the "poison" out. (Yes, I know it's "venom," not "poison.") Now, they don't even recommend trying to suck the venom out without cutting.
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: Beltway on May 21, 2019, 02:05:34 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 21, 2019, 01:27:08 PM
It's amazing how thinking about certain things changes over the years. I remember when drivers were advised that they should seek shelter beneath a bridge in a tornado; that it was a safe place. Now it's just the opposite.

I also remember when the formation of tornados was a scientific mystery and when the main theory was that it was started by electrical forces in the atmosphere.   Also that winds could go as high as over 500 mph.
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: Scott5114 on May 26, 2019, 04:49:11 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 21, 2019, 01:27:08 PM
It's amazing how thinking about certain things changes over the years. I remember when drivers were advised that they should seek shelter beneath a bridge in a tornado; that it was a safe place. Now it's just the opposite.

I think this is mostly because of the May 3, 1999 Oklahoma City tornado. Several motorists on I-35 had stopped under the Shields Blvd. overpass, as that was common advice at the time. The overpass took a direct hit and, while the bridge itself was fine, the winds ejected everyone out from under the bridge, at which point they suffered the effects of not just hitting the ground but being pelted with debris.
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on May 28, 2019, 04:54:39 PM
Since this has become the general tornado thread....
https://www.wcpo.com/weather/breaking-down-the-storms-that-produced-tornadoes-near-dayton

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(https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/de07613/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2148x1108+0+0/resize/2148x1108!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fewscripps.brightspotcdn.com%2F5a%2F4c%2F16fbc58c49fd9e6ef7a22681ad50%2Fscreen-shot-2019-05-28-at-7.49.27%20AM.png)

(https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/69d21cb/2147483647/strip/true/crop/900x675+0+0/resize/900x675!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fewscripps.brightspotcdn.com%2F77%2F59%2F7035023a4b57b5ea1d01b2f42683%2Fwcpo-tornado-trotwood03.JPG)
Twisted tower in Trotwood (NW Dayton)

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(https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/13a21a7/2147483647/strip/true/crop/900x675+0+0/resize/900x675!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fewscripps.brightspotcdn.com%2Fdb%2Fd4%2Fbf5e51d84e36bb23e08178ed8a61%2Fwcpo-tornado-trotwood17.JPG)

(https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/1eb801e/2147483647/strip/true/crop/900x675+0+0/resize/900x675!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fewscripps.brightspotcdn.com%2F29%2F7b%2Feadffca142e6895c52ab148b18be%2Fwcpo-tornado-trotwood18.JPG)

(https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/b33b464/2147483647/strip/true/crop/900x675+0+0/resize/900x675!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fewscripps.brightspotcdn.com%2F78%2F49%2Fef27405b4996a3eab92305c96546%2Fwcpo-tornado-trotwood27.JPG)

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Harrison Twp Plaza north (I don't know where in Dayton this is at)

(https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/d2eae79/2147483647/strip/true/crop/900x675+0+0/resize/900x675!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fewscripps.brightspotcdn.com%2Fea%2Fc7%2F5c3e1ee7445cbaf02438dc0bec7b%2Fwcpo-beavercreek-tornado3.jpg)
Beavercreek (east of Dayton, south of Wright-Pat AFB)

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Beavercreek still

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And we now have our new standard feature; stupid people complaining on social media about real life circumventing their TV habits.
In this case, a Dayton meterologist getting angry over complaints about Tornado coverage (as it was happening in real time, not after the fact) pre-empting 'The Bachelorette.'
https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Dayton-meteorologist-sick-and-tired-of-viewers-wanting-to-go-back-to-programming-during-tornado-outbreak-510516601.html
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: rickmastfan67 on May 28, 2019, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on May 28, 2019, 04:54:39 PM
And we now have our new standard feature; stupid people complaining on social media about real life circumventing their TV habits.
In this case, a Dayton meterologist getting angry over complaints about Tornado coverage (as it was happening in real time, not after the fact) pre-empting 'The Bachelorette.'
https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Dayton-meteorologist-sick-and-tired-of-viewers-wanting-to-go-back-to-programming-during-tornado-outbreak-510516601.html

This was at least one of the people that made him blow up.

https://twitter.com/haybayallday/status/1133182571934867456
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: rickmastfan67 on May 28, 2019, 07:52:35 PM
Anyways, ODOT even had to bring out the Snow Plows (wonder if they still had the plows on, or had to quickly re-add them) to clear off I-75.

https://twitter.com/ODOT_Dayton/status/1133230700122001408
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: ce929wax on May 28, 2019, 08:38:50 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 28, 2019, 07:45:50 PMThis was at least one of the people that made him blow up.

https://twitter.com/haybayallday/status/1133182571934867456

She would be the first to complain because they weren't on the air when a tornado was hitting her.    :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on May 29, 2019, 08:49:02 AM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on May 28, 2019, 04:54:39 PM
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And we now have our new standard feature; stupid people complaining on social media about real life circumventing their TV habits.
In this case, a Dayton meterologist getting angry over complaints about Tornado coverage (as it was happening in real time, not after the fact) pre-empting 'The Bachelorette.'
https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Dayton-meteorologist-sick-and-tired-of-viewers-wanting-to-go-back-to-programming-during-tornado-outbreak-510516601.html


Channel 9 in Chicago did NOT break away from Monday's Cubs game despite many tornado warnings and at least two confirmed tornadoes on the ground.  They did cover about 1/4 of the screen with graphics and had brief studio updates between innings, but they weren't willing to miss a single pitch of a team that's just going to choke in September again anyway.
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: hbelkins on May 29, 2019, 01:28:31 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 28, 2019, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on May 28, 2019, 04:54:39 PM
And we now have our new standard feature; stupid people complaining on social media about real life circumventing their TV habits.
In this case, a Dayton meterologist getting angry over complaints about Tornado coverage (as it was happening in real time, not after the fact) pre-empting 'The Bachelorette.'
https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Dayton-meteorologist-sick-and-tired-of-viewers-wanting-to-go-back-to-programming-during-tornado-outbreak-510516601.html

This was at least one of the people that made him blow up.

https://twitter.com/haybayallday/status/1133182571934867456

Heard something similar happened in Kansas yesterday. Someone complained about regular programming being pre-empted for storm reports.
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: thspfc on May 29, 2019, 05:35:52 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 29, 2019, 08:49:02 AM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on May 28, 2019, 04:54:39 PM
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And we now have our new standard feature; stupid people complaining on social media about real life circumventing their TV habits.
In this case, a Dayton meterologist getting angry over complaints about Tornado coverage (as it was happening in real time, not after the fact) pre-empting 'The Bachelorette.'
https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Dayton-meteorologist-sick-and-tired-of-viewers-wanting-to-go-back-to-programming-during-tornado-outbreak-510516601.html


Channel 9 in Chicago did NOT break away from Monday's Cubs game despite many tornado warnings and at least two confirmed tornadoes on the ground.  They did cover about 1/4 of the screen with graphics and had brief studio updates between innings, but they weren't willing to miss a single pitch of a team that's just going to choke in September again anyway.
VERY IMPORTANT PROGRAMMING: You must see the Cubs play a random spring regular season game, accounting for 1/162 of the season, even if it means getting your house blown out by a tornado.

Cubs.
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: Brandon on June 24, 2019, 01:40:00 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 28, 2019, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on May 28, 2019, 04:54:39 PM
And we now have our new standard feature; stupid people complaining on social media about real life circumventing their TV habits.
In this case, a Dayton meterologist getting angry over complaints about Tornado coverage (as it was happening in real time, not after the fact) pre-empting 'The Bachelorette.'
https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Dayton-meteorologist-sick-and-tired-of-viewers-wanting-to-go-back-to-programming-during-tornado-outbreak-510516601.html

This was at least one of the people that made him blow up.

https://twitter.com/haybayallday/status/1133182571934867456

Actually, certain cable companies (Comcast, I'm looking directly at you) take over your entire TV so you only see the EAS stuff and have no chance to look at another channel, say, the Weather Channel if you want to see the coverage and the radar.  Had that happen one day in my area.  I gave up and turned off the TV so I could look at the radar on the internet (NWS).
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: ilpt4u on June 24, 2019, 02:11:26 PM
Quote from: Brandon on June 24, 2019, 01:40:00 PM
Actually, certain cable companies (Comcast, I'm looking directly at you) take over your entire TV so you only see the EAS stuff and have no chance to look at another channel, say, the Weather Channel if you want to see the coverage and the radar.  Had that happen one day in my area.  I gave up and turned off the TV so I could look at the radar on the internet (NWS).
Not just Comcast. Mediacom does it, too. I'm sure others do as well
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: Mr_Northside on June 24, 2019, 02:20:40 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on June 24, 2019, 02:11:26 PM
Quote from: Brandon on June 24, 2019, 01:40:00 PM
Actually, certain cable companies (Comcast, I'm looking directly at you) take over your entire TV so you only see the EAS stuff and have no chance to look at another channel, say, the Weather Channel if you want to see the coverage and the radar.  Had that happen one day in my area.  I gave up and turned off the TV so I could look at the radar on the internet (NWS).
Not just Comcast. Mediacom does it, too. I'm sure others do as well

EAS also hijacks my Verizon FiOS DVR - and clears out whatever is in "memory" for lack of a better word.  Not stuff I have directed to be actually recorded, but say I just hit "pause" on whatever I'm watching live - it will go for close to an hour before it unpauses itself.
Anyway, if I get 20 mins behind, and start to catch up and an EAS alert/test comes on, once it is done, everything is cleared and the show resumes "live".   This has gotten me legit pissed on more than one occasion.
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: thspfc on June 24, 2019, 03:46:18 PM
Quote from: Mr_Northside on June 24, 2019, 02:20:40 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on June 24, 2019, 02:11:26 PM
Quote from: Brandon on June 24, 2019, 01:40:00 PM
Actually, certain cable companies (Comcast, I'm looking directly at you) take over your entire TV so you only see the EAS stuff and have no chance to look at another channel, say, the Weather Channel if you want to see the coverage and the radar.  Had that happen one day in my area.  I gave up and turned off the TV so I could look at the radar on the internet (NWS).
Not just Comcast. Mediacom does it, too. I'm sure others do as well

EAS also hijacks my Verizon FiOS DVR - and clears out whatever is in "memory" for lack of a better word.  Not stuff I have directed to be actually recorded, but say I just hit "pause" on whatever I'm watching live - it will go for close to an hour before it unpauses itself.
Anyway, if I get 20 mins behind, and start to catch up and an EAS alert/test comes on, once it is done, everything is cleared and the show resumes "live".   This has gotten me legit pissed on more than one occasion.
This happened during the USA vs Portugal game in the 2014 World Cup. When it cut out, it was tied 1-1, and then when it came back on USA was ahead 2-1. I was mad about missing the goal.
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: vdeane on June 24, 2019, 08:40:39 PM
One more reason why I'm glad I don't have cable.  If they're just showing the alert, any reason they couldn't instead do it as a banner on the bottom of the screen instead of preempting the entire TV?  That's what my local TV station does if all there is to broadcast is the alert - with three quick high-pitched tones if the alert changes.  They only preempt if they need to do radar/commentary.
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: allniter89 on August 09, 2019, 08:59:29 PM
Quote from: Mr_Northside on June 24, 2019, 02:20:40 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on June 24, 2019, 02:11:26 PM
Quote from: Brandon on June 24, 2019, 01:40:00 PM
Actually, certain cable companies (Comcast, I'm looking directly at you) take over your entire TV so you only see the EAS stuff and have no chance to look at another channel, say, the Weather Channel if you want to see the coverage and the radar.  Had that happen one day in my area.  I gave up and turned off the TV so I could look at the radar on the internet (NWS).
Not just Comcast. Mediacom does it, too. I'm sure others do as well

EAS also hijacks my Verizon FiOS DVR - and clears out whatever is in "memory" for lack of a better word.  Not stuff I have directed to be actually recorded, but say I just hit "pause" on whatever I'm watching live - it will go for close to an hour before it unpauses itself.
Anyway, if I get 20 mins behind, and start to catch up and an EAS alert/test comes on, once it is done, everything is cleared and the show resumes "live".   This has gotten me legit pissed on more than one occasion.
Pisses me off 2!! The volume of the EAS is way too loud so I cant hear my program! Why the hell cant they do that in the wee hours when it wouldnt bother so many people?
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: ce929wax on August 09, 2019, 11:45:55 PM
Some of radio stations around here do their EAS test in the middle of the night.  The tone can give me the heebie jeebies, so if I am already asleep it is OK, but if it comes on while I am laying down and trying to sleep, it usually gives me a panic attack.
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: Beltway on August 10, 2019, 12:51:49 AM
Quote from: ce929wax on August 09, 2019, 11:45:55 PM
Some of radio stations around here do their EAS test in the middle of the night.  The tone can give me the heebie jeebies, so if I am already asleep it is OK, but if it comes on while I am laying down and trying to sleep, it usually gives me a panic attack.

WRVA 1140 only does it during program time, they never do it during commercials or during the top and bottom of the hour news breaks.

Sickening.
Title: Re: Major tornado outbreak expected today
Post by: Scott5114 on August 10, 2019, 03:22:41 AM
Quote from: Beltway on August 10, 2019, 12:51:49 AM
Quote from: ce929wax on August 09, 2019, 11:45:55 PM
Some of radio stations around here do their EAS test in the middle of the night.  The tone can give me the heebie jeebies, so if I am already asleep it is OK, but if it comes on while I am laying down and trying to sleep, it usually gives me a panic attack.

WRVA 1140 only does it during program time, they never do it during commercials or during the top and bottom of the hour news breaks.

Sickening.

Naturally–commercial time, they're making bank. They wouldn't bother to have program time at all if they thought they could get people to watch without it.

Capitalism!