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Started by mgk920, September 12, 2012, 02:19:57 PM

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Super Mateo

Quote from: ajlynch91 on February 26, 2017, 05:11:03 PM
If they're gonna rename a highway after Obama, name 57 after him. That doesn't have a name already, and the idea of the Stevenson being renamed after him is frankly sickening.

Well...that's how many states he said he visited...


silverback1065

i really wouldn't care either way, i refer to the highway by their number exclusively.

inkyatari

Quote from: silverback1065 on March 29, 2017, 07:26:48 AM
i really wouldn't care either way, i refer to the highway by their number exclusively.

I do too, but in Chicago, many people refer to the highways by name.
I'm never wrong, just wildly inaccurate.

Henry

Quote from: inkyatari on March 29, 2017, 09:05:56 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on March 29, 2017, 07:26:48 AM
i really wouldn't care either way, i refer to the highway by their number exclusively.

I do too, but in Chicago, many people refer to the highways by name.
Except for I-57, which doesn't have one.
Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go! Hey Chicago, what do you say? The Cubs are gonna win today!

inkyatari

Quote from: Henry on March 29, 2017, 09:08:56 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on March 29, 2017, 09:05:56 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on March 29, 2017, 07:26:48 AM
i really wouldn't care either way, i refer to the highway by their number exclusively.

I do too, but in Chicago, many people refer to the highways by name.
Except for I-57, which doesn't have one.

I thought that was either the Calumet or Bishop Ford?
I'm never wrong, just wildly inaccurate.

tribar

Quote from: inkyatari on March 29, 2017, 09:11:37 AM
Quote from: Henry on March 29, 2017, 09:08:56 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on March 29, 2017, 09:05:56 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on March 29, 2017, 07:26:48 AM
i really wouldn't care either way, i refer to the highway by their number exclusively.

I do too, but in Chicago, many people refer to the highways by name.
Except for I-57, which doesn't have one.

I thought that was either the Calumet or Bishop Ford?

Nope, that's I-94 between I-57 and I-80.

Brandon

Quote from: inkyatari on March 29, 2017, 09:11:37 AM
Quote from: Henry on March 29, 2017, 09:08:56 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on March 29, 2017, 09:05:56 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on March 29, 2017, 07:26:48 AM
i really wouldn't care either way, i refer to the highway by their number exclusively.

I do too, but in Chicago, many people refer to the highways by name.
Except for I-57, which doesn't have one.

I thought that was either the Calumet or Bishop Ford?

It's the West Leg of the Dan Ryan Expressway, officially.
"If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention." - Ramsay Bolton

"Symbolic of his struggle against reality." - Reg

dvferyance

Quote from: Brandon on March 29, 2017, 09:32:29 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on March 29, 2017, 09:11:37 AM
Quote from: Henry on March 29, 2017, 09:08:56 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on March 29, 2017, 09:05:56 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on March 29, 2017, 07:26:48 AM
i really wouldn't care either way, i refer to the highway by their number exclusively.

I do too, but in Chicago, many people refer to the highways by name.
Except for I-57, which doesn't have one.

I thought that was either the Calumet or Bishop Ford?

It's the West Leg of the Dan Ryan Expressway, officially.
Technically yes officially not really. Not many maps mark it as such and I have never heard any Chicago traffic reporters refer to I-57 as the Dan Ryan. Usually when everyone thinks of the Dan Ryan it's I-94 between downtown and I-57.

hobsini2

Quote from: dvferyance on March 30, 2017, 12:34:16 PM
Quote from: Brandon on March 29, 2017, 09:32:29 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on March 29, 2017, 09:11:37 AM
Quote from: Henry on March 29, 2017, 09:08:56 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on March 29, 2017, 09:05:56 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on March 29, 2017, 07:26:48 AM
i really wouldn't care either way, i refer to the highway by their number exclusively.

I do too, but in Chicago, many people refer to the highways by name.
Except for I-57, which doesn't have one.

I thought that was either the Calumet or Bishop Ford?

It's the West Leg of the Dan Ryan Expressway, officially.
Technically yes officially not really. Not many maps mark it as such and I have never heard any Chicago traffic reporters refer to I-57 as the Dan Ryan. Usually when everyone thinks of the Dan Ryan it's I-94 between downtown and I-57.
Much like how I-80/94 is the Kingery Expy in Illinois and I-80 west of I-294 is the Moline Expy. It's a very loose name that no one uses.
I knew it. I'm surrounded by assholes. Keep firing, assholes! - Dark Helmet (Spaceballs)

inkyatari

Quote from: hobsini2 on March 30, 2017, 02:36:46 PM
Much like how I-80/94 is the Kingery Expy in Illinois and I-80 west of I-294 is the Moline Expy. It's a very loose name that no one uses.

Another one I've never heard of.  Hmmm
I'm never wrong, just wildly inaccurate.

tribar

Quote from: hobsini2 on March 30, 2017, 02:36:46 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on March 30, 2017, 12:34:16 PM
Quote from: Brandon on March 29, 2017, 09:32:29 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on March 29, 2017, 09:11:37 AM
Quote from: Henry on March 29, 2017, 09:08:56 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on March 29, 2017, 09:05:56 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on March 29, 2017, 07:26:48 AM
i really wouldn't care either way, i refer to the highway by their number exclusively.

I do too, but in Chicago, many people refer to the highways by name.
Except for I-57, which doesn't have one.

I thought that was either the Calumet or Bishop Ford?

It's the West Leg of the Dan Ryan Expressway, officially.
Technically yes officially not really. Not many maps mark it as such and I have never heard any Chicago traffic reporters refer to I-57 as the Dan Ryan. Usually when everyone thinks of the Dan Ryan it's I-94 between downtown and I-57.
Much like how I-80/94 is the Kingery Expy in Illinois and I-80 west of I-294 is the Moline Expy. It's a very loose name that no one uses.

The Kingery Expressway is such a pointless name.  It's only 2 miles or so and there's already a Kingery Highway in Chicagoland.  I don't understand why that 2 mile stretch can't be a continuation of the Borman Expressway.

Brandon

Quote from: tribar on March 30, 2017, 04:18:47 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on March 30, 2017, 02:36:46 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on March 30, 2017, 12:34:16 PM
Quote from: Brandon on March 29, 2017, 09:32:29 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on March 29, 2017, 09:11:37 AM
Quote from: Henry on March 29, 2017, 09:08:56 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on March 29, 2017, 09:05:56 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on March 29, 2017, 07:26:48 AM
i really wouldn't care either way, i refer to the highway by their number exclusively.

I do too, but in Chicago, many people refer to the highways by name.
Except for I-57, which doesn't have one.

I thought that was either the Calumet or Bishop Ford?

It's the West Leg of the Dan Ryan Expressway, officially.
Technically yes officially not really. Not many maps mark it as such and I have never heard any Chicago traffic reporters refer to I-57 as the Dan Ryan. Usually when everyone thinks of the Dan Ryan it's I-94 between downtown and I-57.
Much like how I-80/94 is the Kingery Expy in Illinois and I-80 west of I-294 is the Moline Expy. It's a very loose name that no one uses.

The Kingery Expressway is such a pointless name.  It's only 2 miles or so and there's already a Kingery Highway in Chicagoland.  I don't understand why that 2 mile stretch can't be a continuation of the Borman Expressway.

Because Frank Borman was from Gary, and Robert Kingery was instrumental in getting the expressways built (as part of Cook County government).
"If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention." - Ramsay Bolton

"Symbolic of his struggle against reality." - Reg

tribar

Quote from: Brandon on March 30, 2017, 04:33:54 PM
Quote from: tribar on March 30, 2017, 04:18:47 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on March 30, 2017, 02:36:46 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on March 30, 2017, 12:34:16 PM
Quote from: Brandon on March 29, 2017, 09:32:29 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on March 29, 2017, 09:11:37 AM
Quote from: Henry on March 29, 2017, 09:08:56 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on March 29, 2017, 09:05:56 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on March 29, 2017, 07:26:48 AM
i really wouldn't care either way, i refer to the highway by their number exclusively.

I do too, but in Chicago, many people refer to the highways by name.
Except for I-57, which doesn't have one.

I thought that was either the Calumet or Bishop Ford?

It's the West Leg of the Dan Ryan Expressway, officially.
Technically yes officially not really. Not many maps mark it as such and I have never heard any Chicago traffic reporters refer to I-57 as the Dan Ryan. Usually when everyone thinks of the Dan Ryan it's I-94 between downtown and I-57.
Much like how I-80/94 is the Kingery Expy in Illinois and I-80 west of I-294 is the Moline Expy. It's a very loose name that no one uses.

The Kingery Expressway is such a pointless name.  It's only 2 miles or so and there's already a Kingery Highway in Chicagoland.  I don't understand why that 2 mile stretch can't be a continuation of the Borman Expressway.

Because Frank Borman was from Gary, and Robert Kingery was instrumental in getting the expressways built (as part of Cook County government).

Eisenhower and Kennedy weren't from ILL and we have roads named after them.  I just don't get the point of naming a 2 mile long portion of road after someone.

Brandon

Quote from: tribar on March 30, 2017, 04:46:17 PM
Quote from: Brandon on March 30, 2017, 04:33:54 PM
Because Frank Borman was from Gary, and Robert Kingery was instrumental in getting the expressways built (as part of Cook County government).

Eisenhower and Kennedy weren't from ILL and we have roads named after them.  I just don't get the point of naming a 2 mile long portion of road after someone.

He was the director of the Illinois Department of Public Works (predecessor to IDOT) (not part of Cook County, as I thought), and died in 1951, a year after the expressway was completed.  The expressway was named for him in 1953.

Interestingly enough, the entire expressway, Kingery & Borman, were originally the Tri-State Highway.
"If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention." - Ramsay Bolton

"Symbolic of his struggle against reality." - Reg

ILRoad55

Quote from: Brandon on March 30, 2017, 05:31:30 PM
Quote from: tribar on March 30, 2017, 04:46:17 PM
Quote from: Brandon on March 30, 2017, 04:33:54 PM
Because Frank Borman was from Gary, and Robert Kingery was instrumental in getting the expressways built (as part of Cook County government).

Eisenhower and Kennedy weren't from ILL and we have roads named after them.  I just don't get the point of naming a 2 mile long portion of road after someone.

He was the director of the Illinois Department of Public Works (predecessor to IDOT) (not part of Cook County, as I thought), and died in 1951, a year after the expressway was completed.  The expressway was named for him in 1953.

Interestingly enough, the entire expressway, Kingery & Borman, were originally the Tri-State Highway.
Yep I have a Chicago Atlas Book that names that portion as the Tri-State Highway. Also gives I-80 the name Moline Expressway. It is from 2007 made by Rand Mcnally

inkyatari

Quote from: ILRoad55 on March 31, 2017, 08:41:31 AM

Yep I have a Chicago Atlas Book that names that portion as the Tri-State Highway. Also gives I-80 the name Moline Expressway. It is from 2007 made by Rand Mcnally

I need to see if Rand McNally still makes those.  I had an older version  and loved it.
I'm never wrong, just wildly inaccurate.

ILRoad55

Yea I got mine as a kid, I really loved maps. But the last version I can find is one for 2008, so they may have stopped. The 2007 edition did not have the 355 extension which I did not like.  :spin:

inkyatari

Quote from: ILRoad55 on March 31, 2017, 08:57:27 AM
Yea I got mine as a kid, I really loved maps. But the last version I can find is one for 2008, so they may have stopped. The 2007 edition did not have the 355 extension which I did not like.  :spin:

Dude, I am a map collector from way back.  My first map was a 1957 Vermont road map that my cousin gave me when I was... 10 I think. 

It's been a while since I've gone through and organized my collection.  I need to do that again. I honestly don't know how many I have. It has to be over 1000, as 400+ maps are National Park maps
I'm never wrong, just wildly inaccurate.

ET21

I have a really old Chicagoland atlas from 1990, where 355 was dashed labeled under construction. Really cool book.
The local weatherman, trust me I can be 99.9% right!
"Show where you're going, without forgetting where you're from"

Clinched:
IL: I-88, I-180, I-190, I-290, I-294, I-355, IL-390
IN: I-80, I-94
SD: I-190
WI: I-90, I-94
MI: I-94, I-196
MN: I-90

slorydn1

Quote from: ET21 on March 31, 2017, 09:02:08 AM
I have a really old Chicagoland atlas from 1990, where 355 was dashed labeled under construction. Really cool book.

You know what's making me feel really old? The fact that someone would call something from 1990, the year I turned 21 and the last year I lived in Chicagoland, really old, LOL.



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Brandon

Quote from: ET21 on March 31, 2017, 09:02:08 AM
I have a really old Chicagoland atlas from 1990, where 355 was dashed labeled under construction. Really cool book.

If it's dashed north of I-355, the map was out of date as of December 24, 1989 (opening date of I-355 from I-55 to Army Trail Rd).
"If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention." - Ramsay Bolton

"Symbolic of his struggle against reality." - Reg

ET21

Quote from: Brandon on March 31, 2017, 04:14:22 PM
Quote from: ET21 on March 31, 2017, 09:02:08 AM
I have a really old Chicagoland atlas from 1990, where 355 was dashed labeled under construction. Really cool book.

If it's dashed north of I-355, the map was out of date as of December 24, 1989 (opening date of I-355 from I-55 to Army Trail Rd).

Entire corridor of I-355, but the Army Trail to 290 section was labeled as a freeway as it is today
The local weatherman, trust me I can be 99.9% right!
"Show where you're going, without forgetting where you're from"

Clinched:
IL: I-88, I-180, I-190, I-290, I-294, I-355, IL-390
IN: I-80, I-94
SD: I-190
WI: I-90, I-94
MI: I-94, I-196
MN: I-90

cwm1276

Quote from: ET21 on March 26, 2017, 08:20:51 PM
They just replaced the river bridges on 20 just west of 39 the past two years. I wouldn't be surprised if the roadway bridges are next and/or tied with this project
Yeah, but they really should have been rebuilt to handle 3 lanes in each direction.  They are hardly wider than the original ones.

I-39

Quote from: cwm1276 on March 31, 2017, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: ET21 on March 26, 2017, 08:20:51 PM
They just replaced the river bridges on 20 just west of 39 the past two years. I wouldn't be surprised if the roadway bridges are next and/or tied with this project
Yeah, but they really should have been rebuilt to handle 3 lanes in each direction.  They are hardly wider than the original ones.

The US 20 bypass doesn't really need three lanes west of the I-39 interchange. Most of the time, it's fine (with the exception of rush hour sometimes). But the I-39/US 20 multiplex definitely needs reconstruction/widening to three lanes in each direction (and frankly, I-39 should be expanded to three lanes to Baxter Road).

I believe there were plans at one point to reconstruct/expand US 20 to three lanes between IL-2 and I-39, but that has since been abandoned.

JREwing78

Quote from: I-39 on March 31, 2017, 11:10:04 PM
Quote from: cwm1276 on March 31, 2017, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: ET21 on March 26, 2017, 08:20:51 PM
They just replaced the river bridges on 20 just west of 39 the past two years. I wouldn't be surprised if the roadway bridges are next and/or tied with this project
Yeah, but they really should have been rebuilt to handle 3 lanes in each direction.  They are hardly wider than the original ones.

The US 20 bypass doesn't really need three lanes west of the I-39 interchange. Most of the time, it's fine (with the exception of rush hour sometimes). But the I-39/US 20 multiplex definitely needs reconstruction/widening to three lanes in each direction (and frankly, I-39 should be expanded to three lanes to Baxter Road).

It also needs safer entry/exit for Harrison Ave/US-20 traffic accessing NBD I-39/90 and EBD I-90. Traffic from WBD US-20 scarcely has 500 feet to merge into traffic bound for NBD I-39/90. Ditto for traffic attempting to head EBD on I-90. Separating I-39 traffic's movements from US-20's would help a lot here.

Also helpful: closing off cross traffic from Mill Rd. at US-20, or grade-separating Mill Rd altogether. Cherry Valley access would be inconvenienced, but it's a dangerous intersection for relatively little benefit.



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