Non-Interstate Expressways -- Numbered Exits???

Started by thenetwork, October 29, 2009, 04:35:19 PM

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Bryant5493

^^ Oh, okay, I've only been through Albany on the Liberty Expressway once, so I couldn't remember if exit numbers were used or not. Thanks.


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I've never actually drivien on this section of Rt 8 in PA, but it was added into Street View, and I noticed these oddities.
Southbound there is an overhead signage that has a non-numbered, but exit-tabbed sign:





And at the same spot Northbound, Rt. 8 has a mile marker  (I assume that you're 64 miles from Wilkinsburg & I-376 via PA-8 at that point):


It seems like PennDOT built that section of freeway just to do it.  It doesn't bypass any real towns, it doesn't "spur" off of I-80.  It seems to be a "super-2" south of where I "borrowed" those images to near I-80, but I don't know if there were some grand plans for this or not.  It doesn't seem like the place where PennDOT would put mile markers or numbered exits.

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hbelkins

Kentucky's parkways (former toll roads) have mileage-based numbered exits.

The non-interstate portion of KY 841 (Gene Snyder Freeway) also has numbered exits, as does KY 4 (New Circle Road).

I honestly don't know about the US 60 bypass at Owensboro.

A few years ago, mileage-based exit numbers were added to the exits along the Pikeville cut-thru portion of US 23.


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PAHighways

Quote from: rickmastfan67 on October 29, 2009, 11:21:43 PMYou forgot US-422 in the Kittanning area where it has "A" and "B" exits with PA-66. lol.

As well as 119 and 422 in Indiana at that cloverleaf.  I did forget US 220 in Clinton County which just got exit numbers in the rehab project around Lock Haven, but that happened because it is Future I-99.

Revive 755

The only non-interstate routes in Missouri to have numbered exits are MO 370 and MO 364.  US 61 used to have a numbered exit at Wentzville, US 40 had exit numbers for the future I-64 stretch, and US 67 once had a logo sign for the MO 47 with "Exit 47."  The official policy is to only number interstate exits.

Quote from: BrandonIllinois does not seem to use exit numbers on non-interstate freeways.  There are none on IL-394, IL-53, Lake Shore Drive, US-20 (Elgin & Rockford), the Elgin-O'Hare Expressway, or IL-255.

IL 255 has exit numbers:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=38.795403,-90.045018&spn=0,359.972534&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.795708,-90.045004&panoid=T72ZjTlcv0bX_YaOVzX4bQ&cbp=12,9.95,,0,4.44

IL 6 also has exit numbers:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=40.803837,-89.618568&spn=0,359.972534&z=16&layer=c&cbll=40.803905,-89.618323&panoid=1E_e0lz7eXvbRpBAudB53w&cbp=12,72.37,,0,7.74

PAHighways

Quote from: Mr_Northside on October 30, 2009, 10:35:24 AM
I've never actually drivien on this section of Rt 8 in PA, but it was added into Street View, and I noticed these oddities.
Southbound there is an overhead signage that has a non-numbered, but exit-tabbed sign:

I was on it last back in 2004 and none of the other exits had tabs.  That one in the picture is just like the aforementioned ones on 422.

vdeane

Quote from: WNYroadgeek on October 29, 2009, 09:00:20 PM
New York doesn't number non-interstate expressways (with the exceptions of NY 390, NY 590, NY 690, NY 790, and NY 890, though all of those are just continuations of their interstate counterparts.)
NY 690 does not have exit numbers, unless you count its terminus with I-690 at the interchange with the Thruway.  NY 790 does not yet exist.  I-790 is the only interstate in NY that I know of that does not have exit numbers; NY 17, US 15, and many roads in the NYC area have exit numbers.
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Greybear

Texas and Arkansas uses exit numbers on non-interstate freeways.




Mr_Northside

Quote from: PAHighways on October 30, 2009, 12:59:51 PM
I was on it last back in 2004 and none of the other exits had tabs.  That one in the picture is just like the aforementioned ones on 422.

Actually.. I think I was more surprised that it had at least that one mile marker for a route with just isolated stretch of freeway.
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un1

All of the roads that are limited access in Ontario have signs at each exit saying there exit number, generally in kilometers. Both of the expressways in Thunder Bay have exit numbers, even the locally owned one. (Which is more of a main road then expressway now-a-days)
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MikeTheActuary

Most of Connecticut's longer non-interstate freeways have sequential exit numbers.  (CT 2, CT 8, CT 9, CT 15, CT72 come to mind)

Rover_0

Utah seemed to have exits on its non-Interstate freeways unnumbered, but in recent years there have been milepost-based exit numbers on everything from the US-40/189 freeway (from Heber City to I-80) to US-89 fresh off I-15 in Farmington.  Let's not forget UT-201 in SLC, and coming soon to UT-7 near St. George (when it's built east past River Road).
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New Jersey posts exit numbers on Route 55, Route 18, and Route 21, all state freeways.  I may be missing others.
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Darkchylde

Louisiana is hit-or-miss.

US 90's freeway section has numbers, but it's also a future Interstate (though it uses US 90's current mileage for exits.)
The Inner Loop in Shreveport, I believe, has numbers, but I've never taken it to see.
US 90B has exit numbers on the Westbank, but not on the Eastbank. However, it may or may not be a hidden Interstate.
US 167's freeway section near Alexandria has no numbers.
The Earhart Expressway in Jefferson Parish (LA 3139) has no numbers.
The US 190 freeway in Mandeville has no numbers.

kurumi

List of CT freeways with details: http://www.kurumi.com/roads/ct/exits.html
Non-interstate freeways with exit numbers: 2 2A 7 8 9 11 15 25 34 40 72 695
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Quote from: kurumi on October 31, 2009, 02:37:58 AM
List of CT freeways with details: http://www.kurumi.com/roads/ct/exits.html
Non-interstate freeways with exit numbers: 2 2A 7 8 9 11 15 25 34 40 72 695

Yah CT even has exit numbers on a SECRET state route that isn't even signposted, that of course being SR 695.

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Quote from: un1 on October 30, 2009, 04:32:59 PM
All of the roads that are limited access in Ontario have signs at each exit saying there exit number, generally in kilometers. Both of the expressways in Thunder Bay have exit numbers, even the locally owned one. (Which is more of a main road then expressway now-a-days)

The last time I was on the E.C. Row Expressway in Windsor, they had not numbered their exits.  But then again, the E.C. Row has been a very odd freeway in that:

-  They never had advance mileage signs for upcoming exits -- just a small sign off the right shoulder about 5 feet from the start of the exit ramp!!

-  When the 6-lane freeway was "opened" to traffic in the 80s between Howard Avenue and Huron Church Road/Route 3, most of the bridges at the diamond interchanges weren't finished yet.  So within a 2-3 km stretch, you would go from 3 lanes on the mainline, to a one-lane exit ramp, to a 2-3 lane intersection at the end of the ramp, to a one-lane on-ramp back to a 3-lane mainline freeway.  Lather...Rinse...Repeat.

Mergingtraffic

Quote from: Duke87 on October 29, 2009, 08:05:39 PM
Connecticut numbers exits on all non-interstate freeways of significant length, though some shorter freeway bits are unnumbered. Especially quirky in this regard, is the freeway section of US 7 just south of I-84, which has no exit numbers, but does have exit tabs on its BGSs

Actually on US-7 North of I-84, the exits are numbered sequentially north & south!
US-7 NB, it's Exit 11 & 12 and SB it's Exit 13!  I don't get what they are thinking there!  When the new expressway extension opens up next month and the DOT will be updating signs all along US-7, so I wonder if the exit numberings will change.
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Quote from: SyntheticDreamer on October 29, 2009, 06:48:00 PM
Most non-interstate freeways in Virginia lack exit numbers.
With the exception of VA 168(Chesapeake Expressway)and I believe the Dulles Greenway(technically VA 267) has exit numbers but I'm not sure about VA 267/Dulles Toll Rd though
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VA 168 and VA 267 are the only ones I know of that actually do have exit numbers.
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froggie

Quotebut I'm not sure about VA 267/Dulles Toll Rd though

DTR does have exit numbers.

AZDude

Arizona signs them.

US 60/superstition freeway has mileage based exits.  One portion of US 60 along Grand Avenue has an interchange with an exit number and it's not even a freeway.

US 93 with the interchange with AZ 68 has an exit tab on the sign (exit 67) but there is not "EXIT 67" sign in the gore.

AZ 85 has an interchange with an exit number somewhere on the mainline.

AZ 143 has mileage based exits as well.

AZ Loops 101, 202 do too as well.

wytout

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Quote from: HighwayMaster on October 31, 2009, 04:53:21 PM

That's why a pair of these (2 and 8) could become Interstates (82 and 195, respectively).


Of course, then we'd have to renumber CT 82 and CT 195, because we do not allow number sharing in CT between different types of roads.
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Alps

Quote from: wytout on November 01, 2009, 06:26:26 AM
Quote from: HighwayMaster on October 31, 2009, 04:53:21 PM

That's why a pair of these (2 and 8) could become Interstates (82 and 195, respectively).


Of course, then we'd have to renumber CT 82 and CT 195, because we do not allow number sharing in CT between different types of roads.
84 became 184 easily enough.  182 and 295?

Duke87

Quote from: AlpsROADS on November 01, 2009, 01:40:49 PM
84 became 184 easily enough.  182 and 295?

There's already a CT 182. 282 would work, though.

...wait, since when were CT 2 and CT 8 proposed to be given interstate designations? :eyebrow:


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