Are there any freeways that are dangerous to travel due to crime?

[1995hoo]

Also, I-880 near the Oakland Coliseum "hosted" several incidents of what could best be described as "coordinated road rage" where either drivers or motorcycle riders would harangue other drivers on that freeway.  They had enough sense (or planning) to dissipate before Oakland police or the CHP could arrive on the scene.

I haven't heard of the "coordinated road rage" on I-880 near the Oakland Coliseum but I have seen several incidents of "sideshows" where a large group will shut down all lanes of traffic so some morons can spin their tires and do doughnuts in the middle of the freeway.

Stanley Roberts (YouTube channel "tvman1981") has done a lot of videos about those.

[dvferyance]

I-270 in Columbus was dangerous like 12 years ago. No idea what it is now.

[inkyatari]

IN 912, or Cline Avenue as it's also known, had some incidents a few years ago, collapsing bridge notwithstanding.

(the collapsing bridge bit is hyperbole on my part)

[Brandon]

IN 912, or Cline Avenue as it's also known, had some incidents a few years ago, collapsing bridge notwithstanding.

(the collapsing bridge bit is hyperbole on my part)

Well, there was the couple that drove off the end of it after the demolition.

[Henry]

I'm so glad I moved out of Chicago, because every freeway...ahem, expressway...has seen at least one shooting every few weeks.

[inkyatari]

IN 912, or Cline Avenue as it's also known, had some incidents a few years ago, collapsing bridge notwithstanding.

(the collapsing bridge bit is hyperbole on my part)

Well, there was the couple that drove off the end of it after the demolition.

A couple years ago, weren't there shootings from the overpasses, and they never caught the perps?

[Chris19001]

Theoretically, wouldn't any freeway with an overabundance of speeders be considered "dangerous" due to "crime"?
Sadly, there aren't a whole lot of freeways in my Philly area where one can speed very effectively.  An exception perhaps is the Northeast Extension of the PA Turnpike (I-476)

[roadman]

Theoretically, wouldn't any freeway with an overabundance of speeders be considered "dangerous" due to "crime"?

No.  Except for limited circumstances (i.e. exceeding the speed limit by more than a set amount), speeding is a civil offense, not a criminal one.

[Brandon]

Theoretically, wouldn't any freeway with an overabundance of speeders be considered "dangerous" due to "crime"?

No.  Made up "crimes" aren't really crimes.

[tribar]

Theoretically, wouldn't any freeway with an overabundance of speeders be considered "dangerous" due to "crime"?
Sadly, there aren't a whole lot of freeways in my Philly area where one can speed very effectively.  An exception perhaps is the Northeast Extension of the PA Turnpike (I-476)

I was referring to violent crime when I made this thread. Speeding isn't a crime except in extreme circumstances.

[1995hoo]

Theoretically, wouldn't any freeway with an overabundance of speeders be considered "dangerous" due to "crime"?
Sadly, there aren't a whole lot of freeways in my Philly area where one can speed very effectively.  An exception perhaps is the Northeast Extension of the PA Turnpike (I-476)

I was referring to violent crime when I made this thread. Speeding isn't a crime except in extreme circumstances.

Or in Virginia if you go 11 mph over the speed limit in a 70-mph zone.

[Roadgeekteen]

Theoretically, wouldn't any freeway with an overabundance of speeders be considered "dangerous" due to "crime"?
Sadly, there aren't a whole lot of freeways in my Philly area where one can speed very effectively.  An exception perhaps is the Northeast Extension of the PA Turnpike (I-476)

I was referring to violent crime when I made this thread. Speeding isn't a crime except in extreme circumstances.

Or in Virginia if you go 11 mph over the speed limit in a 70-mph zone.

I think rekless driving should be 85 at mininum.

[ilpt4u]

I think rekless driving should be 85 at mininum.

Reckless driving shouldn't be just about speed.

There are places and/or times where 85 can be perfectly safe

There are places and/or times when 65, 70, 75 can be reckless

Just depends how much weaving, tailgating, etc is being done

Reckless Driving should be more a combination of Speed + Driving Behavior + Conditions, IMHO

[US 89]

I think rekless driving should be 85 at mininum.

Reckless driving shouldn't be just about speed.

There are places and/or times where 85 can be perfectly safe

There are places and/or times when 65, 70, 75 can be reckless

Just depends how much weaving, tailgating, etc is being done

Reckless Driving should be more a combination of Speed + Driving Behavior + Conditions, IMHO

If you're driving in a severe blizzard, even 20 mph can be reckless. But under ideal conditions and light traffic, reckless driving really should be much higher than 80, especially since some western states have rural limits of 80.
In states like this, I would say an absolute reckless driving speed should be something more like 90-100 mph.

[Roadgeekteen]

I think rekless driving should be 85 at mininum.

Reckless driving shouldn't be just about speed.

There are places and/or times where 85 can be perfectly safe

There are places and/or times when 65, 70, 75 can be reckless

Just depends how much weaving, tailgating, etc is being done

Reckless Driving should be more a combination of Speed + Driving Behavior + Conditions, IMHO

If you're driving in a severe blizzard, even 20 mph can be reckless. But under ideal conditions and light traffic, reckless driving really should be much higher than 80, especially since some western states have rural limits of 80.
In states like this, I would say an absolute reckless driving speed should be something more like 90-100 mph.

85 in east us, 95 in west us would work.

[tribar]

I think rekless driving should be 85 at mininum.

Reckless driving shouldn't be just about speed.

There are places and/or times where 85 can be perfectly safe

There are places and/or times when 65, 70, 75 can be reckless

Just depends how much weaving, tailgating, etc is being done

Reckless Driving should be more a combination of Speed + Driving Behavior + Conditions, IMHO

If you're driving in a severe blizzard, even 20 mph can be reckless. But under ideal conditions and light traffic, reckless driving really should be much higher than 80, especially since some western states have rural limits of 80.
In states like this, I would say an absolute reckless driving speed should be something more like 90-100 mph.

85 in east us, 95 in west us would work.

No it would not. Reckless driving cannot just be some random, one size fits all speed. It has to be a certain amount over whatever the limit is plus conditions and behavior.

[02 Park Ave]

There was a shooting on the Bishop Ford Expressway in Chicago today.

[Roadgeekteen]

I think rekless driving should be 85 at mininum.

Reckless driving shouldn't be just about speed.

There are places and/or times where 85 can be perfectly safe

There are places and/or times when 65, 70, 75 can be reckless

Just depends how much weaving, tailgating, etc is being done

Reckless Driving should be more a combination of Speed + Driving Behavior + Conditions, IMHO

If you're driving in a severe blizzard, even 20 mph can be reckless. But under ideal conditions and light traffic, reckless driving really should be much higher than 80, especially since some western states have rural limits of 80.
In states like this, I would say an absolute reckless driving speed should be something more like 90-100 mph.

85 in east us, 95 in west us would work.

No it would not. Reckless driving cannot just be some random, one size fits all speed. It has to be a certain amount over whatever the limit is plus conditions and behavior.

Of course it would varie, those are just guidelines.

[ilpt4u]

There was a shooting on the Bishop Ford Expressway in Chicago today.

Not celebrating the shooting...thats awful

That being said, the Bishop Ford is the one Chicago Area Expressway/Freeway that is actually official referred to as the "Bishop Ford Freeway" as opposed to the "Bishop Ford Expressway." Why that is? I have no idea

[Quillz]

There was a shooting on the Bishop Ford Expressway in Chicago today.

Not celebrating the shooting...thats awful

That being said, the Bishop Ford is the one Chicago Area Expressway/Freeway that is actually official referred to as the "Bishop Ford Freeway" as opposed to the "Bishop Ford Expressway." Why that is? I have no idea

My guess is it would have to do with design standards. Some states don't differentiate between "freeway" and "expressway," some do. Typically, the latter would have lesser design standards (such as allowing a limited-number of at-grade intersections).

[jaehak]

There was a shooting on the Bishop Ford Expressway in Chicago today.

Not celebrating the shooting...thats awful

That being said, the Bishop Ford is the one Chicago Area Expressway/Freeway that is actually official referred to as the "Bishop Ford Freeway" as opposed to the "Bishop Ford Expressway." Why that is? I have no idea

My guess is it would have to do with design standards. Some states don't differentiate between "freeway" and "expressway," some do. Typically, the latter would have lesser design standards (such as allowing a limited-number of at-grade intersections).

Not in this case. For years that stretch of road was called the Calumet Expressway, then they changed it to the Bishop Ford Freeway. Nothing changed except the name.

[bing101]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVYfiO4FOZs

Well if you're wondering how Los Angeles became the place for dangerous crimes on freeways you would want to go back to this!

[bing101]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2017/08/10/o-j-simpson-former-agent-try-sell-white-bronco-pawn-stars/555106001/

The vehicle that make people think about crimes on Los Angeles freeways is going to be auctioned on Pawn Stars. Yes its the OJ Simpson Bronco.

https://www.alcatrazeast.com/inside-alcatraz-east/artifacts/oj-simpson-bronco/

Update

[Mergingtraffic]

Actually you're quite isolated on depressed sections of urban expressway.  Think about it,  the only way out is up a ramp if there's one nearby.
In the 1980s if you broke down on I-95 in the Bronx or were stuck in traffic jams what is to stop someone from robbing you or worse? You can't drive a way. People would come down the ramps to do that. Nowadays they beg for money.

I walked the I-170 stub in Baltimore when it was closed a couple years back to get photos.  I felt sort of trapped, what if someone was also in there and saw me and wanted to commit a crime of opportunity against me?  I really had nowhere to go except run the length of the 2 mile long stub.

[JKRhodes]

I-10 in El Paso is directly across the river from some sketchy looking shanty towns in Juarez, Mexico. There was quite a bit of gun violence over there several years back, to the point that there were news reports of a stray bullet striking El Paso City Hall, along with one striking a mother in the leg on the US side. I'm not aware of any vehicles on the freeway being affected, though it's still pretty scary to think about.