When one side of a route is longer than the other

Started by roadman65, January 02, 2023, 03:05:10 PM

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roadman65

https://goo.gl/maps/DNjVdD9qsnnGQXLY9
This is southern terminus of CT Route 12. However, it's not the northern beginning.

CT 12 ends at the signal here where US 1 NB comes in on the shallow angle roadway from the right. The opposing side is still US 1 SB here as the complexity of the I-95, US 1, CT 12, and CT 184 interchange allows both CT 12 SB and US 1 SB to be on the same street for about a quarter mile or about.

https://goo.gl/maps/BW34tjfc5UcRfqYK7
CT 12 north start is seen in the distance beyond the overpass where US 1 turns onto the ramp ahead.

I would imagine that CT 184 is the same way. It, though, ends as US 1 merges but starts as it departs from I-95. So on the overpass is US 1 SB and CT 184 EB.
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Where WV-25 ends at US-60 on the far West Side of Charleston, WV-25 eastbound ends at Iowa Street but WV-25 westbound starts a few blocks further east at Rebecca Street and runs the remainder of one-way Seventh Avenue.  Many maps incorrectly show WV-25 starting one more block further at Patrick Street, since it is only signed from that location.  When the (then) State Road Commission reconstructed this junction into the Iowa Street Crazy Loop, this was US-35 instead of WV-25. 

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Charleston,+WV/@38.3732703,-81.6666396,17z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x884f2cce88145d39:0x7661a84704c91b0b!8m2!3d38.3498195!4d-81.6326234
Note that Google Maps shows the routing of US-60 incorrectly.  US-60 eastbound turns left (westward) from Patrick Street onto Seventh Avenue, then turns right (northward) onto Rebecca Street.  Both intersections are marked with overhead mini-BGS for WV-25.

Overhead signage for westbound WV-25 on Patrick Street:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.3709764,-81.6653001,3a,31.9y,21.14h,91.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFR1Bc_jRM3HI4gkFVEywmg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Overhead signage for eastbound US-60 on Seventh Avenue onto Rebecca Street (official unposted beginning of WV-25 is just barely in this view):
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.3725802,-81.6647122,3a,15y,305.16h,92.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srZF5CNNJ9DisY8MB-DLCkQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

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jp the roadgeek

The westbound LIE is longer than the eastbound.  Westbound begins as you circle around from the westbound lanes of CR 58.  Eastbound defaults onto CR 58 Eastbound. 
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Bickendan

Eastbound I-84/US 30 is longer than westbound based on the longer routing up Emigrant Hill than going down.

kphoger

When one side of a route is longer than the other, it's called the Hypotenuse.
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MultiMillionMiler

NY 878.

5 Miles eastbound, 2 miles westbound, because one stretch only has lanes eastbound, a one-way highway.

hbelkins

Happens often when numbered routes use one-way streets in cities, and they have to use connecting streets to recombine. Example: US 127 in downtown Danville, Ky. Also, I-75 at the northern I-64 interchange. I haven't looked at the milepoints on that one to see how they're determined.


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bulldog1979

The Capitol Loop in Lansing has this situation. Eastbound, it runs 2.08 miles, and westbound it is slower to 2.40 miles because of all the one-way streets. Given the short length overall, the difference is relatively significant

roadman65

I guess the way I should have worded it is name routes longer on one side than another due to abnormal interchanges or other alignment issues.

Yes in urban areas where town squares or even the former Riverdale Traffic Circle in NJ had Route 23 north longer than Route 23 south due to the circumference of the circle definitely can't be helped. 

I was looking for interesting ones that end up out of a unusual situation. Because CT 12 has the interchange with US 1 so complex, the result ended up a significant distance.
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kphoger

Carr. Fed. 40 – Monterrey ↔ Saltillo
Eastbound:  40.9 km
Westbound:  41.7 km

Carr. Fed. 40(D) – Saltillo ↔ Torreón
Eastbound:  236.5 km
Westbound:  233.0 km
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Dirt Roads

Durham, North Carolina has one that is actually posted in both directions: NC-98 at the Downtown Loop.  Business US-70 comes off The Loop onto North Roxboro Street, then right onto Holloway Street, at which is the official beginning of NC-98.  But Holloway Street westbound continues past North Roxboro Street (Business US-15/Business US-501) down to the intersection where Holloway Street, Liberty Street and Cleveland Street all merge to become Morgan Street, which is the northern part of The Loop.  That intersection is the official endpoint of NC-98.  None of the online maps show this, but the NCDOT map mistakenly shows NC-98 on that section of Liberty Street (rather than properly shown on that one-way section of Holloway).

Here is where NC-98 is actually posted beyond its official beginning point:  https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9956382,-78.8970472,3a,58.5y,312.63h,81.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbur6FLyj_PSBcr8dWQz6jA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

This location is also unique in that traffic on southbound Business US-15/Business US-501 has no access to NC-98 (unless you go down to the southern part of The Loop and double back).

Here is the only signage for the beginning of NC-98 (barely visible these days):  https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9951916,-78.8972097,3a,15.1y,53.65h,87.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sn-owxfZyrH54_Ra6zLRg8Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Amaury

Quote from: hbelkins on January 04, 2023, 10:07:49 AMHappens often when numbered routes use one-way streets in cities, and they have to use connecting streets to recombine. Example: US 127 in downtown Danville, Ky. Also, I-75 at the northern I-64 interchange. I haven't looked at the milepoints on that one to see how they're determined.

US Route 12 in Aberdeen, Washington, might also be a good example, with the one-way streets.
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sbeaver44

PA 72 North begins on the southern side of Lancaster where US 222 N (and secretly PA 272 N) turns from Duke St to Church St.

PA 72 South ends on the northern side near the Lancaster Amtrak Station at Prince St and McGovern Ave, JCT US 222 (PA 272) S.

This looks like a distance of about 12 blocks.

Less significantly, I believe PA 324 NB follows Queen St between US 222 SB (Prince St) and US 222 NB (Highland Ave) in the same area as where PA 72 North begins.  There does not appear to be a corresponding street for PA 324 SB.

Lancaster's traffic route routings are weird.  PA 462 EB runs on King St.  Nothing runs on Orange St.  PA 23 EB runs on Chestnut St.  Both PA 23 WB and PA 462 WB run on Walnut St.  Orange St would make much more sense for PA 462 WB.

Dirt Roads

In downtown Richmond, VA-147 runs as a one-way pair on Cary Street and Main Street.  Westbound VA-147 begins where westbound US-60 leaves East Main Street at the corner of South Eighth Street.  But eastbound VA-147 ends a block further east, where it meet up with eastbound US-60 at the corner of East Cary Street and South Ninth Street.  All of this in a fantastic part of Richmond, particularly when the Christmas lights are on display in downtown Richmond.

TheHighwayMan3561

In Duluth when MN 61 was created, a short piece of US 61's prior alignment southwest of MN 61's current remained part of MN 61 for a few years, using London Road and a pair of one-ways to connect to MN 23, which followed 2nd and 3rd Sts in those days. Southbound MN 61 used 14th Ave East and northbound used 12th Ave East, with northbound also using a small piece of London between 12th and 14th that southbound did not to reconnect the route. This lasted until 1997 when 61 was cut to its current end and MN 23 was removed from going through the city entirely.
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wanderer2575

I-96 through the huge I-96/I-275/I-696/M-5 interchange in Novi MI:  Eastbound is 0.6 mile shorter than westbound.

https://goo.gl/maps/yFstLQjdNQsS1rKWA

zachary_amaryllis

not a HUGE difference...

... but SH 14 goes one block further east, than the westbound side, in Sterling, due to one-ways.

This might have been rejiggered when they built the bypass-thing through town.
Kinddddaaa want to know if 14 was extended to 76, since I'd have to drive out there to re-clinch 14.
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jlam

Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on January 08, 2023, 09:01:30 AM
Kinddddaaa want to know if 14 was extended to 76, since I'd have to drive out there to re-clinch 14.
According to TravelMapping, yes.

zzcarp

Quote from: jlam on January 19, 2023, 01:30:35 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on January 08, 2023, 09:01:30 AM
Kinddddaaa want to know if 14 was extended to 76, since I'd have to drive out there to re-clinch 14.
According to TravelMapping, yes.

With the realignment of US 6 and CO 14 in Sterling, that got rid of the one-way pairs for US 6-US 138 and no longer qualifies for this thread.

In the field, signage conflicts on where CO 14 ends. EB US 6 signage at CO 14 shows CO 14 joining US 6 EB along with "TO US 138".

Westbound US 138 at its current terminus at N 3rd Street and "US 6/HWY 14" has signage showing CO 14 only going west with US 6 going both ways. On EB US 6 at the same intersection, signage shows CO 14 continuing EB and there's a reassurance marker just east of US 138. From there EB to I-76, CO 14 signage disappears.

From I-76 heading west, CO 14 is consistently signed as "TO CO 14" or just as US 6 through to where US 6 now diverges from CO 14 west of US 138 at N. Division Street.
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Declan127

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on January 02, 2023, 08:29:51 PM
The westbound LIE is longer than the eastbound.  Westbound begins as you circle around from the westbound lanes of CR 58.  Eastbound defaults onto CR 58 Eastbound.

At the other end of 495, the entrance to the Midtown Tunnel is about a block east of its exit
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US 89

US 40 east/Colorado 13 north are both two blocks longer than their westbound and southbound counterparts due to a one-way couplet in Craig.

zachary_amaryllis

Quote from: zzcarp on January 20, 2023, 10:58:43 AM
Quote from: jlam on January 19, 2023, 01:30:35 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on January 08, 2023, 09:01:30 AM
Kinddddaaa want to know if 14 was extended to 76, since I'd have to drive out there to re-clinch 14.
According to TravelMapping, yes.

With the realignment of US 6 and CO 14 in Sterling, that got rid of the one-way pairs for US 6-US 138 and no longer qualifies for this thread.

In the field, signage conflicts on where CO 14 ends. EB US 6 signage at CO 14 shows CO 14 joining US 6 EB along with "TO US 138".

Westbound US 138 at its current terminus at N 3rd Street and "US 6/HWY 14" has signage showing CO 14 only going west with US 6 going both ways. On EB US 6 at the same intersection, signage shows CO 14 continuing EB and there's a reassurance marker just east of US 138. From there EB to I-76, CO 14 signage disappears.

From I-76 heading west, CO 14 is consistently signed as "TO CO 14" or just as US 6 through to where US 6 now diverges from CO 14 west of US 138 at N. Division Street.
Most of my time in Sterling was spent just a smidge down Highway 61 from the 6/76/61 junction (just east of I-76), so I didn't see downtown much. I just recall it being sort of odd the way the streets come together, 138 enters the conversation, etc.
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