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Title: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on September 29, 2023, 08:14:42 AM
Please post any functionality problems you encounter or other Forum software issues you note. We will use the input to better address the errors the recent database changes made.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on September 29, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
The Facebook photos in the addition game (checked page 53, since that's the page I needed to go to to make my next play) aren't showing up for me.

Also check the thread title here: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=33722

Quebec is now Québec. 🦆
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: kirbykart on September 29, 2023, 08:26:30 AM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
Also check the thread title here: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=33722

I just found one with the same problem: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=33853.msg2871717#msg2871717 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=33853.msg2871717#msg2871717)

Were these quotation marks before? I think they were. However, the 'NY 17/"I-86"' thread displays the quotation marks correctly.

EDIT: Apostrophes seem to also be glitched in the same way, but the sequence ends with a trademarked symbol rather than oe. (Edit to the edit: I made this edit before I saw 1's post.)
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on September 29, 2023, 08:27:55 AM
Quote from: kirbykart on September 29, 2023, 08:26:30 AM
However, the 'NY 17/"I-86"' thread displays the quotation marks correctly.

Straight quotes are in ASCII, but curly quotes aren't. Which one gets used is browser-dependent; your keyboard can only input straight ones, but many browsers auto-change them. The same is true for apostrophes.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on September 29, 2023, 08:29:09 AM
It looks like collation settings in the database need to be switched, I'll look into it next.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: kirbykart on September 29, 2023, 08:30:28 AM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
Quebec is now Québec. 🦆

Quebec is fine on my computer.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on September 29, 2023, 08:33:02 AM
Quote from: kirbykart on September 29, 2023, 08:30:28 AM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
Quebec is now Québec. 🦆

Quebec is fine on my computer.

I should have made it clearer: only Québec is changed. Anyone typing it without the accent won't have it happen. (In addition, anyone typing it after the reopening a few minutes ago is also fine.)
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: fwydriver405 on September 29, 2023, 08:35:38 AM
Quote from: kirbykart on September 29, 2023, 08:30:28 AM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
Quebec is now Québec. 🦆

Quebec is fine on my computer.

Montréal (Montreal) was also showing as Montréal for me in addition to the above, as with special symbols like ½ (1/2), though this mostly is with past replies and not with anything new.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=28024.msg2852486#msg2852486
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on September 29, 2023, 08:43:29 AM
The "last posting within 15 seconds" bug has not been fixed yet.

So far, I've figured out that it only happens when there has been a post (by anyone, anywhere on the forum) within the last 15 seconds, but I've also seen two posts 11 seconds apart, so it doesn't always happen.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on September 29, 2023, 08:47:07 AM
One change made was that we switched the database from mySQL 5.5 to MariaDB 10.6. The previous collation was "utf8_bin". That is not an option with the MariaDB, so we set it to utf8mb4_unicode_ci

There's more to research this with the SMF forums, but I will be away the next few hours. So try to ignore the character issues for the time being. Thanks!
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 09:00:10 AM
I notice some posts I remember having read prior to the shutdown are now marked as unread, but that's not something I would expect the moderators to try to resolve because it has to be more trouble than it's worth to fix it.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on September 29, 2023, 09:01:41 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 09:00:10 AM
I notice some posts I remember having read prior to the shutdown are now marked as unread, but that's not something I would expect the moderators to try to resolve because it has to be more trouble than it's worth to fix it.

It affects about a 12-hour window and that's it.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: webny99 on September 29, 2023, 09:02:29 AM
Thanks, it's good to see the forum is back up and running. I believe that was the longest outage there's been (or if not, one of very few) since I joined in 2017.

One small change I've noticed - and I say "change" because I haven't fully judged whether it matters enough to the forum experience to be an "issue" - previously, after clicking on a board, then back to the home page, the green arrow next to that board would turn gray, to represent that board having been viewed. Now, the arrow remains green even after clicking on and off a board several times. My guess would be that the arrow will still turn gray, but only after each individual thread in that board has been viewed, although I haven't tested this yet.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Hunty2022 on September 29, 2023, 09:03:29 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 09:00:10 AM
I notice some posts I remember having read prior to the shutdown are now marked as unread, but that's not something I would expect the moderators to try to resolve because it has to be more trouble than it's worth to fix it.

Some of the posts on my "unread" show me as the person who last posted. How do I not read my own posts?
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: formulanone on September 29, 2023, 09:03:49 AM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
The Facebook photos in the addition game (checked page 53, since that's the page I needed to go to to make my next play) aren't showing up for me.

I think it was doing that for a while, possibly just Facebook creating expiring hotlinks.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on September 29, 2023, 09:04:45 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on September 29, 2023, 09:03:29 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 09:00:10 AM
I notice some posts I remember having read prior to the shutdown are now marked as unread, but that's not something I would expect the moderators to try to resolve because it has to be more trouble than it's worth to fix it.

Some of the posts on my "unread" show me as the person who last posted. How do I not read my own posts?

This has happened in the past when your own posts are moved from one thread to another.

Quote from: formulanone on September 29, 2023, 09:03:49 AM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
The Facebook photos in the addition game (checked page 53, since that's the page I needed to go to to make my next play) aren't showing up for me.

I think it was doing that for a while, possibly just Facebook creating expiring hotlinks.

They expire in less than a week?
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: LilianaUwU on September 29, 2023, 09:04:51 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on September 29, 2023, 09:03:29 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 09:00:10 AM
I notice some posts I remember having read prior to the shutdown are now marked as unread, but that's not something I would expect the moderators to try to resolve because it has to be more trouble than it's worth to fix it.

Some of the posts on my "unread" show me as the person who last posted. How do I not read my own posts?
Some members' posts are so low quality you'd think they don't read their own posts.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: webny99 on September 29, 2023, 09:11:35 AM
Quote from: webny99 on September 29, 2023, 09:02:29 AM
One small change I've noticed - and I say "change" because I haven't fully judged whether it matters enough to the forum experience to be an "issue" - previously, after clicking on a board, then back to the home page, the green arrow next to that board would turn gray, to represent that board having been viewed. Now, the arrow remains green even after clicking on and off a board several times. My guess would be that the arrow will still turn gray, but only after each individual thread in that board has been viewed, although I haven't tested this yet.

Update: All boards are still showing the green arrow to represent unread posts even after clicking all unread threads in that board, except for GHT and OT, which have a yellow arrow to represent unread posts in child boards. Using the "Mark Read" feature within each board removes the yellow "New!" message from each thread as usual, but the green arrow on the home page remains.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Hunty2022 on September 29, 2023, 09:17:42 AM
My post count here says 892, but on my posts page, it shows 894. I believe it may be my last two posts before the forum shutdown. I am thinking about deleting them and reposting them.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 29, 2023, 09:44:06 AM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2023, 09:04:45 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on September 29, 2023, 09:03:29 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 09:00:10 AM
I notice some posts I remember having read prior to the shutdown are now marked as unread, but that's not something I would expect the moderators to try to resolve because it has to be more trouble than it's worth to fix it.

Some of the posts on my "unread" show me as the person who last posted. How do I not read my own posts?

This has happened in the past when your own posts are moved from one thread to another.

Quote from: formulanone on September 29, 2023, 09:03:49 AM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
The Facebook photos in the addition game (checked page 53, since that's the page I needed to go to to make my next play) aren't showing up for me.

I think it was doing that for a while, possibly just Facebook creating expiring hotlinks.

They expire in less than a week?

Usually they expire within 3-5 days I've found.  That's why I usually just link the actual post if there is a Facebook photo that's somehow worthwhile.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on September 29, 2023, 09:53:38 AM
On the home page, the regional moderator names for the boards appear more than once for some of them — and apparently 74/171FAN sees it differently from the way I do.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: kphoger on September 29, 2023, 10:12:22 AM
Quote from: webny99 on September 29, 2023, 09:02:29 AM
One small change I've noticed - and I say "change" because I haven't fully judged whether it matters enough to the forum experience to be an "issue" - previously, after clicking on a board, then back to the home page, the green arrow next to that board would turn gray, to represent that board having been viewed. Now, the arrow remains green even after clicking on and off a board several times. My guess would be that the arrow will still turn gray, but only after each individual thread in that board has been viewed, although I haven't tested this yet.

Quote from: Hunty2022 on September 29, 2023, 09:03:29 AM
Some of the posts on my "unread" show me as the person who last posted. How do I not read my own posts?

If you read the notice at the top of the forum, you can see that the maintenance was "to expunge a number of posts from a banned user".  This might understandably wreak havoc on how thread replies are counted.  My assumption is that what used to be your most recent unread post in a thread is no longer correctly identified as your most recent unread post in the database.

Now, I'm no computer whiz, but my expectation is that this stuff will either (a) work itself out in the wash, so we just have to be patient, or (b) be addressed by the admin team as time allows, but not on a mission-critical timeline, so we just have to be patient.

A lot of back-end work had to be done to un-break the forum, so I'd say that what appears to be 95% functionality is a big success.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: ZLoth on September 29, 2023, 10:14:11 AM
A forum administrator or three needs a weekend off now.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: 74/171FAN on September 29, 2023, 10:24:36 AM
I am having an issue with the green arrow still appearing on boards even though I have caught up on posts.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: kphoger on September 29, 2023, 10:30:01 AM
Quote from: ZLoth on September 29, 2023, 10:14:11 AM
A forum administrator or three needs a weekend off now.

1.  What timing, too, right as they've been working on the new Wiki.

2.  I'm sure there's still plenty of work ahead of them to fix the remaining glitches, so maybe this week-end is too soon for that vacation.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hbelkins on September 29, 2023, 10:35:18 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on September 29, 2023, 09:17:42 AM
My post count here says 892, but on my posts page, it shows 894. I believe it may be my last two posts before the forum shutdown. I am thinking about deleting them and reposting them.

Who really cares about post count? (That's some "inside baseball" for long-time users.)
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 10:36:05 AM
Quote from: ZLoth on September 29, 2023, 10:14:11 AM
A forum administrator or three needs a weekend off now nice stiff drinks now.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: intelati49 on September 29, 2023, 10:45:22 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 10:36:05 AM
Quote from: ZLoth on September 29, 2023, 10:14:11 AM
A forum administrator or three needs a weekend off now nice stiff drinks now.

No kidding. I can only imagine what a flustercluck it was.  :cheers:

Hat's off to them
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: LM117 on September 29, 2023, 11:11:58 AM
Quote from: intelati49 on September 29, 2023, 10:45:22 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 10:36:05 AM
Quote from: ZLoth on September 29, 2023, 10:14:11 AM
A forum administrator or three needs a weekend off now nice stiff drinks now.

No kidding. I can only imagine what a flustercluck it was.  :cheers:

Hat's off to them

WTF happened?
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on September 29, 2023, 11:26:27 AM
Quote from: LM117 on September 29, 2023, 11:11:58 AM
Quote from: intelati49 on September 29, 2023, 10:45:22 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 10:36:05 AM
Quote from: ZLoth on September 29, 2023, 10:14:11 AM
A forum administrator or three needs a weekend off now nice stiff drinks now.

No kidding. I can only imagine what a flustercluck it was.  :cheers:

Hat's off to them

WTF happened?

User threatened DMCA to remove all his posts. Forum was down, and they were all removed via script. This caused some threads to no longer have a most recent post, breaking things. To fix it, some issues regarding non-ASCII encoding happened.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: The Ghostbuster on September 29, 2023, 11:38:54 AM
Who was the former user who caused the shutdown of the AAROADS Forum? Or can that person not be named due to the threatened legal action against the forum?
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: MATraveler128 on September 29, 2023, 11:46:01 AM
The Northeast board shows Ian's name several times. I also had 2 posts deleted since the forum's been offline.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on September 29, 2023, 11:50:44 AM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on September 29, 2023, 11:38:54 AM
Who was the former user who caused the shutdown of the AAROADS Forum? Or can that person not be named due to the threatened legal action against the forum?

Baloo Uriza according to Steve Alpert.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on September 29, 2023, 11:53:06 AM
On my phone, one of the two "news" messages has too large a font size, but the other is fine. This does not occur on my laptop.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: fhmiii on September 29, 2023, 12:04:20 PM
When I click onto a board, and then go back to the main page, it doesn't seem to update the signal re: new posts.  That is, the signal stays green even though I've visited the board and there are no new posts.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: webny99 on September 29, 2023, 12:14:30 PM
Quote from: webny99 on September 29, 2023, 09:11:35 AM
Update: All boards are still showing the green arrow to represent unread posts even after clicking all unread threads in that board, except for GHT and OT, which have a yellow arrow to represent unread posts in child boards. Using the "Mark Read" feature within each board removes the yellow "New!" message from each thread as usual, but the green arrow on the home page remains.

Quote from: fhmiii on September 29, 2023, 12:04:20 PM
When I click onto a board, and then go back to the main page, it doesn't seem to update the signal re: new posts.  That is, the signal stays green even though I've visited the board and there are no new posts.

Quote from: 74/171FAN on September 29, 2023, 10:24:36 AM
I am having an issue with the green arrow still appearing on boards even though I have caught up on posts.

How's that for a sequence of TL;DR's? (With mine being the wordiest, of course. :sombrero:)
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Mr. Matté on September 29, 2023, 12:23:28 PM
So my name doesn't look silly whilst the non-normal characters are funky, could an admin change my name to "Mr. Matt"?
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on September 29, 2023, 12:28:26 PM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
Quebec is now Québec. 🦆

Likewise, any time I used the ñ character now appears as ñ. I spell my country's name in my native language as España, not España.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: rickmastfan67 on September 29, 2023, 12:31:03 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on September 29, 2023, 11:46:01 AM
The Northeast board shows Ian's name several times.

Where exactly?  Ian's name only shows up once for me on the front page as well as inside of that section.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 12:35:05 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on September 29, 2023, 12:31:03 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on September 29, 2023, 11:46:01 AM
The Northeast board shows Ian's name several times.

Where exactly?  Ian's name only shows up once for me on the front page as well as inside of that section.

I just looked at the forum's main page and I see the name "Ian" four times for the Northeast board. It reads sort of like a Burger King jingle: "Ian, Ian, Ian, Ian."
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on September 29, 2023, 12:35:17 PM
Quote from: webny99 on September 29, 2023, 09:02:29 AM
Thanks, it's good to see the forum is back up and running. I believe that was the longest outage there's been (or if not, one of very few) since I joined in 2017.

One small change I've noticed - and I say "change" because I haven't fully judged whether it matters enough to the forum experience to be an "issue" - previously, after clicking on a board, then back to the home page, the green arrow next to that board would turn gray, to represent that board having been viewed. Now, the arrow remains green even after clicking on and off a board several times. My guess would be that the arrow will still turn gray, but only after each individual thread in that board has been viewed, although I haven't tested this yet.

The green arrow indicating unread posts when there are none is one of the issues we are still working on.

Quote from: intelati49 on September 29, 2023, 10:45:22 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 10:36:05 AM
Quote from: ZLoth on September 29, 2023, 10:14:11 AM
A forum administrator or three needs a weekend off now nice stiff drinks now.

No kidding. I can only imagine what a flustercluck it was.  :cheers:

Hat's off to them

Thanks! I've spent a solid 24 hours working on it this week, it hasn't been fun. The database export made prior to expunging the posts was not 100% complete. This in part because the messages table has well over 1.1 million records, and the SQL export timed out. So this left me with having to piece together what remained.

Another big hassle is that the export did not list the records in numerical order based upon the message id field. So outliers were a regular thing, and trying to reimport sections kept tripping up, as the query would run into an existing record and abruptly stop. Also since the original export was incomplete, I had to go back and adjust or check the table structure on 95 of them within the database to reset primary keys, indexes and auto_increment values.

There is still more potential database work to be done to iron out remaining issues.

Quote from: kphoger on September 29, 2023, 10:12:22 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on September 29, 2023, 09:03:29 AM
Some of the posts on my "unread" show me as the person who last posted. How do I not read my own posts?

If you read the notice at the top of the forum, you can see that the maintenance was "to expunge a number of posts from a banned user".  This might understandably wreak havoc on how thread replies are counted.  My assumption is that what used to be your most recent unread post in a thread is no longer correctly identified as your most recent unread post in the database.

Now, I'm no computer whiz, but my expectation is that this stuff will either (a) work itself out in the wash, so we just have to be patient, or (b) be addressed by the admin team as time allows, but not on a mission-critical timeline, so we just have to be patient.

A lot of back-end work had to be done to un-break the forum, so I'd say that what appears to be 95% functionality is a big success.

Manually removing said posts was too much of an undertaking when we were contending with 2,100 posts and then 1,400 posts with quotes. Eventually I ran some queries directly through the database. This is where issues arose, as it effected things like most recent posts, topics and other PHP structure within the forum software. I am hoping some of this will flush out, but will keep looking for solutions in the meantime.

Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2023, 11:53:06 AM
On my phone, one of the two "news" messages has too large a font size, but the other is fine. This does not occur on my laptop.

I noted this issue on my phone last night when checking the forum. Will see what we can find out about it.

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on September 29, 2023, 11:38:54 AM
Who was the former user who caused the shutdown of the AAROADS Forum? Or can that person not be named due to the threatened legal action against the forum?

I never interacted with him personally, and he was last active nearly two years ago.

Quote from: BlueOutback7 on September 29, 2023, 11:46:01 AM
The Northeast board shows Ian's name several times. I also had 2 posts deleted since the forum's been offline.

The moderator name list repeating is an issue I have yet to figure out how to fix. I tried some things last night on it to no avail.

I ended up taking the database dump from the other morning and importing into a new mySQL 5.7 database, and the MariaDB 10.7 database. There may have been a few records lost between the transition, but I attempted to make sure all of the most recent records were included. If post counts changed, that might be just another bug with the queries affecting the database, or related to the database cleanup operations that I ran through SMF yesterday afternoon.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on September 29, 2023, 12:36:41 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on September 29, 2023, 12:23:28 PM
So my name doesn't look silly whilst the non-normal characters are funky, could an admin change my name to "Mr. Matt"?

Let me try to figure out the collation issue with the database tables first.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on September 29, 2023, 12:38:54 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on September 29, 2023, 12:31:03 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on September 29, 2023, 11:46:01 AM
The Northeast board shows Ian's name several times.

Where exactly?  Ian's name only shows up once for me on the front page as well as inside of that section.

There are a number of regional boards that show moderator names multiple times, with Corco's being the most displayed of all.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mod-name-repeats.png)
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 12:41:03 PM
^^^^^

Whereas on mine, the only two where it happens are Northeast (as noted above, but it's now displaying Ian five times rather than the four I noted earlier) and Mid-Atlantic (currently displaying 74/171FAN three times). Interesting that the occurrences seem to change over time.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: rickmastfan67 on September 29, 2023, 12:41:38 PM
Quote from: Alex on September 29, 2023, 12:38:54 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on September 29, 2023, 12:31:03 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on September 29, 2023, 11:46:01 AM
The Northeast board shows Ian's name several times.

Where exactly?  Ian's name only shows up once for me on the front page as well as inside of that section.

There are a number of regional boards that show moderator names multiple times, with Corco's being the most displayed of all.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mod-name-repeats.png)

Weird.  Seems to be hit and miss with that.  I just got it now, but most of the time, I only just get 1 name.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: NE2 on September 29, 2023, 12:42:40 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on September 29, 2023, 11:50:44 AM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on September 29, 2023, 11:38:54 AM
Who was the former user who caused the shutdown of the AAROADS Forum? Or can that person not be named due to the threatened legal action against the forum?

Baloo Uriza according to Steve Alpert.

RIP liberty.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: SkyPesos on September 29, 2023, 12:55:15 PM
"Threat of legal action by a banned user"

Hmm, I wonder if this bit I saw when the forum was closed gives a clue to said user
(https://i.imgur.com/d2V6sFV.png)

EDIT: Never mind, it was mentioned above.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: vdeane on September 29, 2023, 12:55:48 PM
The copyright character appearing so often with the collation issues is an impressive coincidence, given what happened.  Are we sure Baloo didn't do some black magic voodoo ritual to break the forum?  It would explain too why this happened right after the Fall Equinox, as the dark powers are now ascendant.

In any case, everything that recently happened with the forum does solidify and strengthen a very negative impression I already had from the posts about the OSM edit wars.

Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2023, 11:26:27 AM
Quote from: LM117 on September 29, 2023, 11:11:58 AM
Quote from: intelati49 on September 29, 2023, 10:45:22 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 10:36:05 AM
Quote from: ZLoth on September 29, 2023, 10:14:11 AM
A forum administrator or three needs a weekend off now nice stiff drinks now.

No kidding. I can only imagine what a flustercluck it was.  :cheers:

Hat's off to them

WTF happened?

User threatened DMCA to remove all his posts. Forum was down, and they were all removed via script. This caused some threads to no longer have a most recent post, breaking things. To fix it, some issues regarding non-ASCII encoding happened.
I'd like to coin the term "copyright swatting" for this.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: intelati49 on September 29, 2023, 12:58:24 PM


Quote from: vdeane on September 29, 2023, 12:55:48 PM

In any case, everything that recently happened with the forum does solidify and strengthen a very negative impression I already had from the posts about the OSM edit wars.

I'd like to coin the term "copyright swatting" for this.

I'm *terrified* to ask. I don't frequent rhe non-state/region sections... For good reason I guess??

SM-G715U1

Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: CovalenceSTU on September 29, 2023, 02:00:22 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on September 29, 2023, 12:41:38 PM
Quote from: Alex on September 29, 2023, 12:38:54 PM
There are a number of regional boards that show moderator names multiple times, with Corco's being the most displayed of all.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mod-name-repeats.png)

Weird.  Seems to be hit and miss with that.  I just got it now, but most of the time, I only just get 1 name.
I noticed it duplicates the moderator name every time you open the board.

It's also mostly Unicode characters (https://digwp.com/2011/07/clean-up-weird-characters-in-database/) that are messed up, this post of mine (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=23747.msg2843337#msg2843337) is the only one with issues but the first quote gets it right for some reason. Same thing happened to your signature @1995hoo
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 29, 2023, 02:02:32 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on September 29, 2023, 12:55:15 PM
"Threat of legal action by a banned user"

Hmm, I wonder if this bit I saw when the forum was closed gives a clue to said user
(https://i.imgur.com/d2V6sFV.png)

EDIT: Never mind, it was mentioned above.

I must know, where did you find that?
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: DTComposer on September 29, 2023, 02:11:42 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on September 29, 2023, 12:41:38 PM
Quote from: Alex on September 29, 2023, 12:38:54 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on September 29, 2023, 12:31:03 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on September 29, 2023, 11:46:01 AM
The Northeast board shows Ian's name several times.

Where exactly?  Ian's name only shows up once for me on the front page as well as inside of that section.

There are a number of regional boards that show moderator names multiple times, with Corco's being the most displayed of all.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mod-name-repeats.png)

Weird.  Seems to be hit and miss with that.  I just got it now, but most of the time, I only just get 1 name.

For me, the repeated names only show up on the boards I post in, and the number of times a name appears seems to be relative to the amount that I post in that board - don't know if that's a coincidence or not?
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on September 29, 2023, 02:20:48 PM
 I am going to temporarily put the forum in maintenance mode while I reset a table in the database.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: froggie on September 29, 2023, 02:30:50 PM
FWIW, I'm not seeing the "moderators listed multiple times" issue that was reported upthread.  Nor am I seeing the "arrow problem".  Granted, I use the Core Theme because the default and button copy themes are too hard on my eyes.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: SkyPesos on September 29, 2023, 02:30:59 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 29, 2023, 02:02:32 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on September 29, 2023, 12:55:15 PM
"Threat of legal action by a banned user"

Hmm, I wonder if this bit I saw when the forum was closed gives a clue to said user
(https://i.imgur.com/d2V6sFV.png)

EDIT: Never mind, it was mentioned above.

I must know, where did you find that?
It was one of the rotating News messages when the forum was under maintenance. It was shorter than what I was used to seeing there, and I never expected to see a forum meme there.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on September 29, 2023, 02:31:33 PM
Moderator socking duplication is fixed. Quacbec still exists, though.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 02:34:09 PM
I concur, moderator duplication is no longer happening on my screen.

I do now notice that the em dashes in my autosignature are displaying as gibberish.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: kphoger on September 29, 2023, 02:39:13 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 02:34:09 PM
I do now notice that the em dashes in my autosignature are displaying as gibberish.

As has already been mentioned multiple times in this thread, the issue of nonstandard symbols rendering improperly is a known issue.

You should be able to manually fix your own signature, though, by going into your profile.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on September 29, 2023, 02:42:07 PM
I reset one of the tables that logs what boards have been visited via member id to try to address the green arrow/new posts issue. But problems persist...

There is another database change I can try related to sessions and "mark-read", but I am going to run it by rickmastfan67 first.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 02:45:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 29, 2023, 02:39:13 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 02:34:09 PM
I do now notice that the em dashes in my autosignature are displaying as gibberish.

As has already been mentioned multiple times in this thread, the issue of nonstandard symbols rendering improperly is a known issue.

You should be able to manually fix your own signature, though, by going into your profile.

I didn't think an em dash was a nonstandard symbol.

Edited to add: Thanks for the suggestion of editing my profile, as that seems to have fixed it.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on September 29, 2023, 02:46:27 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 02:45:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 29, 2023, 02:39:13 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 02:34:09 PM
I do now notice that the em dashes in my autosignature are displaying as gibberish.

As has already been mentioned multiple times in this thread, the issue of nonstandard symbols rendering improperly is a known issue.

You should be able to manually fix your own signature, though, by going into your profile.

I didn't think an em dash was a nonstandard symbol.

It's outside this.
(https://www.asciitable.com/asciifull.gif)
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: webny99 on September 29, 2023, 02:48:16 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 29, 2023, 02:39:13 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 02:34:09 PM
I do now notice that the em dashes in my autosignature are displaying as gibberish.

As has already been mentioned multiple times in this thread, the issue of nonstandard symbols rendering improperly is a known issue.

... specifically a known issue even before the recent maintenance, right?

It might be worse/affecting more characters now, but I used to get quotes displaying incorrectly in thread titles quite frequently.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on September 29, 2023, 02:51:31 PM
Quote from: webny99 on September 29, 2023, 02:48:16 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 29, 2023, 02:39:13 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 02:34:09 PM
I do now notice that the em dashes in my autosignature are displaying as gibberish.

As has already been mentioned multiple times in this thread, the issue of nonstandard symbols rendering improperly is a known issue.

... specifically a known issue even before the recent maintenance, right?

It might be worse/affecting more characters now, but I used to get quotes displaying incorrectly in thread titles quite frequently.

The only thing that happened before the maintenance was Tapatalk converting curly quotes and apostrophes into HTML entities (not mojibake). This is affecting everything non-ASCII except for posts made the day it's been up after the maintenance.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on September 29, 2023, 03:06:45 PM
And some posts I've restored back to the correct version. I've changed an ß back to ß, for instance.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 03:06:56 PM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2023, 02:46:27 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 02:45:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 29, 2023, 02:39:13 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 02:34:09 PM
I do now notice that the em dashes in my autosignature are displaying as gibberish.

As has already been mentioned multiple times in this thread, the issue of nonstandard symbols rendering improperly is a known issue.

You should be able to manually fix your own signature, though, by going into your profile.

I didn't think an em dash was a nonstandard symbol.

It's outside this.
(https://www.asciitable.com/asciifull.gif)

Oh, well, of course, obviously. How could anyone be so stupid as not to know such basic information as that. 

(https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/finger.gif)
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on September 29, 2023, 03:09:24 PM
This thread will not show as read no matter how many times I read it. Posting here doesn't fix it, either.

Fictional license plate systems is now doing that, too. In addition, I put fake mojibake in one of my posts (after the two-minute downtime an hour ago), and now it's just three question marks... but the actual mojibake in other threads isn't fixed.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: 74/171FAN on September 29, 2023, 03:16:14 PM
Yes, 1, the same thing is happening with the I-73 Updates Thread to me.  (it may be every thread now)
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hbelkins on September 29, 2023, 03:41:50 PM
I don't remember exactly what it was that caused Baloo Uriza to get banned.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: kphoger on September 29, 2023, 03:45:43 PM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2023, 02:51:31 PM

Quote from: webny99 on September 29, 2023, 02:48:16 PM

Quote from: kphoger on September 29, 2023, 02:39:13 PM

Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 02:34:09 PM
I do now notice that the em dashes in my autosignature are displaying as gibberish.

As has already been mentioned multiple times in this thread, the issue of nonstandard symbols rendering improperly is a known issue.

... specifically a known issue even before the recent maintenance, right?

It might be worse/affecting more characters now, but I used to get quotes displaying incorrectly in thread titles quite frequently.

The only thing that happened before the maintenance was Tapatalk converting curly quotes and apostrophes into HTML entities (not mojibake). This is affecting everything non-ASCII except for posts made the day it's been up after the maintenance.

The same basic translation problem that has existed between Tapatalk and the forum now exists between old iteration and new iteration of the forum itself.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on September 29, 2023, 03:57:09 PM
Unfortunately, the collation problem is that the previous database was latin1_swedish_ci, and imported that way. Simply changing the collation to utf8mb4_unicode_ci in the database table structure does not actually recollate all the existing data.

Going forward, new posts should be in utf8mb4_unicode_ci. But everything posted previously needs to be converted. The available options I read about are time consuming such as creating a new database table with utf8mb4_unicode_ci, then importing all of the existing data, then sending it all back into the original table. There's over 1 million records in the messages table, so not trying that right now...
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on September 29, 2023, 03:58:56 PM
Two things:

1. Can you add the most common non-ASCII character mojibake sequences to the word filter list so that they look fixed?

2. Our messages still can't be marked read. This started at 3:10 EDT, not when you did the 2-minute downtime (which was at 2:20).
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 29, 2023, 04:19:02 PM
Clicking the global "mark all posts as read" on my end does not mark the whole forum as read, it seems there are a few topics (like this one) that refuse to get counted as being "read".
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: kphoger on September 29, 2023, 04:23:09 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 29, 2023, 04:19:02 PM
Clicking the global "mark all posts as read" on my end does not mark the whole forum as read, it seems there are a few topics (like this one) that refuse to get counted as being "read".

Yeah, it's kind of funny to click on "MARK ALL MESSAGES AS READ" and then see the list of unread topics get longer (because someone posted somewhere in between).
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Scott5114 on September 29, 2023, 04:23:34 PM
Quote from: webny99 on September 29, 2023, 09:02:29 AM
One small change I've noticed - and I say "change" because I haven't fully judged whether it matters enough to the forum experience to be an "issue" - previously, after clicking on a board, then back to the home page, the green arrow next to that board would turn gray, to represent that board having been viewed. Now, the arrow remains green even after clicking on and off a board several times. My guess would be that the arrow will still turn gray, but only after each individual thread in that board has been viewed, although I haven't tested this yet.

This is just straight-up broken, unfortunately; once lit the green arrow never goes off. There's obviously something stuck in some table or another that isn't supposed to be there, but finding out which table and what needs to be removed is tricky.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Scott5114 on September 29, 2023, 04:25:34 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 29, 2023, 03:41:50 PM
I don't remember exactly what it was that caused Baloo Uriza to get banned.

Legal threats.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: kphoger on September 29, 2023, 04:27:25 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 29, 2023, 04:25:34 PM

Quote from: hbelkins on September 29, 2023, 03:41:50 PM
I don't remember exactly what it was that caused Baloo Uriza to get banned.

Legal threats.

Threats of a DMCA takedown notice?   :hmmm:
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Scott5114 on September 29, 2023, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 29, 2023, 02:02:32 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on September 29, 2023, 12:55:15 PM
"Threat of legal action by a banned user"

Hmm, I wonder if this bit I saw when the forum was closed gives a clue to said user
(https://i.imgur.com/d2V6sFV.png)

EDIT: Never mind, it was mentioned above.

I must know, where did you find that?

One of the things that was broken during the downtime was the news function, so I used that as a test message (it was the first thing that came to mind, and I thought it'd give people a chuckle if they were looking at it).
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: formulanone on September 29, 2023, 04:44:50 PM
Should we report every time a 'loo appears in a past discussion, or is that not necessary?

(I try to avoid making fun of names, but dirty tricks get what they deserve.)
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: kphoger on September 29, 2023, 04:50:39 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 29, 2023, 04:19:02 PM
Clicking the global "mark all posts as read" on my end does not mark the whole forum as read, it seems there are a few topics (like this one) that refuse to get counted as being "read".

Some added information, not sure if this has been mentioned yet:  when I click on the [NEW!] button of a topic in the list, it takes me to the most recent post still marked as [NEW!] in the thread—not the post most recent post in reality.  Just in case anyone was wondering.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Scott5114 on September 29, 2023, 04:52:29 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 29, 2023, 04:44:50 PM
Should we report every time a 'loo appears in a past discussion, or is that not necessary?

(I try to avoid making fun of names, but dirty tricks get what they deserve.)

If it's one of his posts, or a quote of one of his posts, yes, we need to know about that so we can destroy it.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Hunty2022 on September 29, 2023, 04:54:50 PM
What years was the user on the forum?
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Scott5114 on September 29, 2023, 04:56:25 PM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on September 29, 2023, 04:54:50 PM
What years was the user on the forum?

We are not going to discuss him because next he'll threaten to sue us for that too.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Amaury on September 29, 2023, 05:00:24 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 29, 2023, 04:25:34 PMLegal threats.

That's certainly an interesting one. Banned for that about two years ago and then tries it again two years later or tries to actually follow through with it two years later, if I've been reading everything correctly. I don't know about this situation here specifically and won't ask for details—and even if I did, I know I wouldn't be able to get anything specific, just the general stuff that's been mentioned here already—but I know people get blocked on Wikipedia for the same thing, and from every case I've seen, at least, it's used solely for scare tactics. I know there's even a WP page for that, I just can't remember the name of it off the top of my head.

But that's all I'll say on the matter. I wasn't here then, anyway.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Quillz on September 29, 2023, 05:02:46 PM
I'm not sure what legal standing this user even has. It has generally been ruled that forums and their operators are not responsible for the content posted on them. So any posts he made are his own, and legal threats will almost certainly be shot down should he actually try. Granted, it might be more expensive to hire a lawyer of your own and potentially go to court.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 29, 2023, 05:03:49 PM
He didn't.  The host just was looking for the easiest way to make him go away.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: minneha on September 29, 2023, 05:11:47 PM
I've seen quotation marks, apostrophes, and some other punctuation be displayed as special characters, such as in this thread:

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7515.50
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: ZLoth on September 29, 2023, 05:27:09 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 29, 2023, 04:56:25 PM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on September 29, 2023, 04:54:50 PM
What years was the user on the forum?

We are not going to discuss him because next he'll threaten to sue us for that too.

I've dealt with enough "he who shall not be named" types over the years to know that a. I don't want to know any details, and b. I won't ask. And my experience goes back to the Fidonet BBS days.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 29, 2023, 05:37:57 PM
I generally appreciate having names, even if just mentioned in private.  That way I know who deny entry to, preemptively block or remove from the groups I manage. 

As an example a "roadside certain shrubbery enthusiast" recently re-emerged on a Facebook group.  Given what I was as told about the malefactor in question I took steps to prevent them from discovering my presence.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: NE2 on September 29, 2023, 06:14:31 PM
Rhymes with Small Conson.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: J N Winkler on September 29, 2023, 06:25:31 PM
I have been skimming my old posts, and I note continuing issues (probably encoding-related) with the following:

*  Degree symbol

*  Curly apostrophe

*  Curly double quotes

*  Section symbol (often used in MUTCD cites)

*  Various Western Latin extended characters (generally rendered with leading Ã, which is typically a sign of a two-byte UTF-8 sequence being misparsed as two separate characters in ANSI/ISO-8859-1 or related encodings)

Strangely, some posts (such as this (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=33752.msg2868527#msg2868527)) have mojibake for Western Latin but correct rendering for Chinese characters.  Others have also observed correct rendering for UTF-8 emoji and Eastern Latin characters.

I suspect a fix targeted just to misparsed characters that exist in ISO-8859-1 may be all we need to fix the encoding issue definitively.  However, I haven't checked whether this reasoning applies to special dashes like the three-byte em-dash in UTF-8.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: bandit957 on September 29, 2023, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: Alex on September 29, 2023, 08:14:42 AM
Please post any functionality problems you encounter or other Forum software issues you note. We will use the input to better address the errors the recent database changes made.

On some threads, the yellow "NEW" symbol appears even though I've already read the thread.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Henry on September 29, 2023, 07:04:57 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on September 29, 2023, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: Alex on September 29, 2023, 08:14:42 AM
Please post any functionality problems you encounter or other Forum software issues you note. We will use the input to better address the errors the recent database changes made.

On some threads, the yellow "NEW" symbol appears even though I've already read the thread.
Even on the front page and select pages with subsections (such as General Highway Talk and Off-Topic), all the green arrow lights are on, no matter what section I've visited. But I've had no problems with the "NEW" symbols on the threads I just read.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on September 29, 2023, 07:23:58 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on September 29, 2023, 06:25:31 PM
I suspect a fix targeted just to misparsed characters that exist in ISO-8859-1 may be all we need to fix the encoding issue definitively.  However, I haven't checked whether this reasoning applies to special dashes like the three-byte em-dash in UTF-8.

If there is conversion for characters from one to the other, a series of queries on the database could clean up some of this.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Jim on September 29, 2023, 07:39:53 PM
For me, the main thing I've noticed is that nothing seems to stay marked as read, whether from me actually reading it or hitting the "Mark All Message As Read" link.  I see some mentions of related things above but I didn't notice any that mentioned this issue exactly.

Thanks to all who are putting in what I'm sure is massive amounts of time to deal with this.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: vdeane on September 29, 2023, 08:14:04 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 29, 2023, 04:23:34 PM
Quote from: webny99 on September 29, 2023, 09:02:29 AM
One small change I've noticed - and I say "change" because I haven't fully judged whether it matters enough to the forum experience to be an "issue" - previously, after clicking on a board, then back to the home page, the green arrow next to that board would turn gray, to represent that board having been viewed. Now, the arrow remains green even after clicking on and off a board several times. My guess would be that the arrow will still turn gray, but only after each individual thread in that board has been viewed, although I haven't tested this yet.

This is just straight-up broken, unfortunately; once lit the green arrow never goes off. There's obviously something stuck in some table or another that isn't supposed to be there, but finding out which table and what needs to be removed is tricky.
When I was browsing earlier, I actually did have one go away.  That said, the only ones that were capable of going away at the time were OT and GHT.  It seems that whatever makes them go green or yellow works fine, it's just whatever should turn them gray isn't.  Or at least it was at the time.  Marking topics as read was working fine then, so who knows if that's changed?

Quote from: Jim on September 29, 2023, 07:39:53 PM
For me, the main thing I've noticed is that nothing seems to stay marked as read, whether from me actually reading it or hitting the "Mark All Message As Read" link.  I see some mentions of related things above but I didn't notice any that mentioned this issue exactly.

Thanks to all who are putting in what I'm sure is massive amounts of time to deal with this.
Let's hope they get that one fixed.  I can deal with the arrows not working correctly, but not having topics get marked as read correctly completely breaks how I browse the forum.

EDIT: Incidentally, threads seem to take momentarily longer to load now.  Not sure if that's related to all this or not.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: CovalenceSTU on September 29, 2023, 08:30:22 PM
Quote from: Alex on September 29, 2023, 07:23:58 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on September 29, 2023, 06:25:31 PM
I suspect a fix targeted just to misparsed characters that exist in ISO-8859-1 may be all we need to fix the encoding issue definitively.  However, I haven't checked whether this reasoning applies to special dashes like the three-byte em-dash in UTF-8.

If there is conversion for characters from one to the other, a series of queries on the database could clean up some of this.
I linked it upwards in the thread; accents are bit more complicated (as there's more of them and they use two-character codes) but this covers the punctuation:


" = left quote  = "
"  = right quote = "
"˜ = left single quote  = '
' = right single quote = '
– = en dash = –
— = em dash = —
- = hyphen   = -
... = ellipsis = ...
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on September 29, 2023, 09:28:45 PM
I can now read posts again.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Hunty2022 on September 29, 2023, 09:31:08 PM
And so can I, but I still have two "removed" posts.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: 74/171FAN on September 29, 2023, 09:45:06 PM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2023, 09:28:45 PM
I can now read posts again.

Yes, and the arrows are no longer green on unread boards.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: TempoNick on September 29, 2023, 09:58:05 PM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2023, 11:26:27 AM


User threatened DMCA to remove all his posts. Forum was down, and they were all removed via script. This caused some threads to no longer have a most recent post, breaking things. To fix it, some issues regarding non-ASCII encoding happened.

I would have thought that the terms of service cover that. If you post here, it's public domain. At least that's the way most social media works.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Rothman on September 29, 2023, 09:58:49 PM
Thanks very much to the admins for all the work done.

My thoughts on the matter are best reserved for elsewhere given what admins have said here.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: webny99 on September 29, 2023, 10:17:30 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 29, 2023, 04:23:34 PM
Quote from: webny99 on September 29, 2023, 09:02:29 AM
One small change I've noticed - and I say "change" because I haven't fully judged whether it matters enough to the forum experience to be an "issue" - previously, after clicking on a board, then back to the home page, the green arrow next to that board would turn gray, to represent that board having been viewed. Now, the arrow remains green even after clicking on and off a board several times. My guess would be that the arrow will still turn gray, but only after each individual thread in that board has been viewed, although I haven't tested this yet.

This is just straight-up broken, unfortunately; once lit the green arrow never goes off. There's obviously something stuck in some table or another that isn't supposed to be there, but finding out which table and what needs to be removed is tricky.

The colored arrows were actually working for a short time this afternoon (possibly starting after the short downtime around 2:20). They had stopped working again, but fortunately seem to be working again now.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Big John on September 29, 2023, 10:17:53 PM
On the bottom of the page always read "Opinions expressed here on belong solely to the poster and do not represent or reflect the opinions or beliefs of AARoads, its creators and/or associates.".
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Rothman on September 29, 2023, 10:20:11 PM
I'm finding that Tapatalk missed notifying me of some unread messages.  Might be that 12-hour window mentioned already.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: rickmastfan67 on September 29, 2023, 10:26:36 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 29, 2023, 10:20:11 PM
I'm finding that Tapatalk missed notifying me of some unread messages.  Might be that 12-hour window mentioned already.

Might have to patch Tapatalk as well.  I'll have to make a note to double check to make sure we're on the latest version, and if not, patch it.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: D-Dey65 on September 29, 2023, 10:32:38 PM
So, the present opening of the forum is only temporary?

My only issue was that I never knew of any notification about the forum being shut down for any amount of time.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: rickmastfan67 on September 29, 2023, 10:33:44 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on September 29, 2023, 10:32:38 PM
My only issue was that I never knew of any notification about the forum being shut down for any amount of time.

That's the problem with legal action.  Sometimes you have to act on it without being able to give others a warning of downtime.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: 74/171FAN on September 29, 2023, 10:43:18 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 29, 2023, 09:58:49 PM
Thanks very much to the admins for all the work done.

My thoughts on the matter are best reserved for elsewhere given what admins have said here.

Time to help and thank the admins at the same time by testing the clapping emoji.  :clap:

Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Amaury on September 29, 2023, 11:55:14 PM
The unread/read issue appears to be resolved now.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on September 30, 2023, 12:46:45 AM
Quote from: CovalenceSTU on September 29, 2023, 08:30:22 PM
Quote from: Alex on September 29, 2023, 07:23:58 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on September 29, 2023, 06:25:31 PM
I suspect a fix targeted just to misparsed characters that exist in ISO-8859-1 may be all we need to fix the encoding issue definitively.  However, I haven't checked whether this reasoning applies to special dashes like the three-byte em-dash in UTF-8.

If there is conversion for characters from one to the other, a series of queries on the database could clean up some of this.
I linked it upwards in the thread; accents are bit more complicated (as there's more of them and they use two-character codes) but this covers the punctuation:


" = left quote  = "
"  = right quote = "
"˜ = left single quote  = '
' = right single quote = '
– = en dash = –
— = em dash = —
- = hyphen   = -
... = ellipsis = ...


I overlooked your original post and went back to it, thanks.
I ran some queries on the message bodies and corrected all of the instances listed in the code block above. I then went to do similar on the subject field, and the first query instead truncated the field, causing the subject to display the first part of the body text. Weird error that messed up over 1,100 posts...
Looking at the old database, I copied over the original topic names and corresponding topic id's for those posts, which fell under 44 subjects. I then ran queries to rename the posts on this database, which covered subjects with a left quote - " in them.

So you will notice less garbled text.
There's still more to fix, but not after that sql gaff and definitely no more tonight!  :sleep:
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Scott5114 on September 30, 2023, 03:07:23 AM
A few more from the Quebec thread:


à = a with accent grave = à (warning: see below)
é = e with accent = é
É = E with accent = É
è = e with accent grave = è
ê = e with circumflex = ê
ô = O with circumflex = Ô
û = u with circumflex = û
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: J N Winkler on September 30, 2023, 03:34:10 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 30, 2023, 03:07:23 AMA few more from the Quebec thread:

à = a with accent grave = à
é = e with accent = é
É = E with accent = É
è = e with accent grave = è
ê = e with circumflex = ê
ô = O with circumflex = Ô
û = u with circumflex = û

Careful--I'm also seeing capital A with tilde (on its own) as mojibake for lowercase i with acute accent (as in an old thread dealing with Spanish autopistas and autovías (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=1730.0)).
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Rothman on September 30, 2023, 06:24:59 AM


Quote from: D-Dey65 on September 29, 2023, 10:32:38 PM
So, the present opening of the forum is only temporary?

My only issue was that I never knew of any notification about the forum being shut down for any amount of time.

They did post it right on the forum's webpage when you tried to log in (?).
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: kalvado on September 30, 2023, 07:10:48 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 03:06:56 PM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2023, 02:46:27 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 02:45:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 29, 2023, 02:39:13 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 02:34:09 PM
I do now notice that the em dashes in my autosignature are displaying as gibberish.

As has already been mentioned multiple times in this thread, the issue of nonstandard symbols rendering improperly is a known issue.

You should be able to manually fix your own signature, though, by going into your profile.

I didn't think an em dash was a nonstandard symbol.

It's outside this.
(https://www.asciitable.com/asciifull.gif)

Oh, well, of course, obviously. How could anyone be so stupid as not to know such basic information as that. 

(https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/finger.gif)
I actually enjoy seeing grammar Nazi failing the basics just outside spelling...
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Scott5114 on September 30, 2023, 07:32:47 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on September 30, 2023, 03:34:10 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 30, 2023, 03:07:23 AMA few more from the Quebec thread:

à = a with accent grave = à
é = e with accent = é
É = E with accent = É
è = e with accent grave = è
ê = e with circumflex = ê
ô = O with circumflex = Ô
û = u with circumflex = û

Careful--I'm also seeing capital A with tilde (on its own) as mojibake for lowercase i with acute accent (as in an old thread dealing with Spanish autopistas and autovías (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=1730.0)).

There is a non-printing character of some kind after the à (i.e. that is not two spaces between that and the equals signs). I'm guessing that the exact code point of this non-printing character differs between à and í. Care should be taken with the target string in this case...
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: GaryV on September 30, 2023, 08:00:36 AM
Quote from: Amaury on September 29, 2023, 11:55:14 PM
The unread/read issue appears to be resolved now.

Do you have to do something to make it work? Because while I'm seeing threads marked as new that actually do have new items (such as this thread), when I click on it it takes me to some posts that I already read yesterday.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Jim on September 30, 2023, 08:01:41 AM
Quote from: GaryV on September 30, 2023, 08:00:36 AM
Quote from: Amaury on September 29, 2023, 11:55:14 PM
The unread/read issue appears to be resolved now.

Do you have to do something to make it work? Because while I'm seeing threads marked as new that actually do have new items (such as this thread), when I click on it it takes me to some posts that I already read yesterday.

I did a hard reload when it looked like things were being marked read again and the forum has been behaving normally for me since.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on September 30, 2023, 08:03:06 AM
Quote from: GaryV on September 30, 2023, 08:00:36 AM
Quote from: Amaury on September 29, 2023, 11:55:14 PM
The unread/read issue appears to be resolved now.

Do you have to do something to make it work? Because while I'm seeing threads marked as new that actually do have new items (such as this thread), when I click on it it takes me to some posts that I already read yesterday.

Posts that were generated during the bugged times won't be read during that time, so if you read them at say, 5 PM yesterday, it will still be unread. Reading them now will mark them read, though.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: 1995hoo on September 30, 2023, 08:39:42 AM
Quote from: TempoNick on September 29, 2023, 09:58:05 PM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2023, 11:26:27 AM


User threatened DMCA to remove all his posts. Forum was down, and they were all removed via script. This caused some threads to no longer have a most recent post, breaking things. To fix it, some issues regarding non-ASCII encoding happened.

I would have thought that the terms of service cover that. If you post here, it's public domain. At least that's the way most social media works.

You overlook the potential cost and hassle of fighting someone over it, regardless of who's right. In the legal field, the term "nuisance value" settlement describes how a defendant (or putative defendant) will often settle a plaintiff's weak case just to avoid that problem.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on September 30, 2023, 10:43:19 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 30, 2023, 07:32:47 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on September 30, 2023, 03:34:10 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 30, 2023, 03:07:23 AMA few more from the Quebec thread:

à = a with accent grave = à
é = e with accent = é
É = E with accent = É
è = e with accent grave = è
ê = e with circumflex = ê
ô = O with circumflex = Ô
û = u with circumflex = û

Careful--I'm also seeing capital A with tilde (on its own) as mojibake for lowercase i with acute accent (as in an old thread dealing with Spanish autopistas and autovías (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=1730.0)).

There is a non-printing character of some kind after the à (i.e. that is not two spaces between that and the equals signs). I'm guessing that the exact code point of this non-printing character differs between à and í. Care should be taken with the target string in this case...

I am slowly replacing a number of these bad characters with queries, however, searches cannot distinguish between characters with ~ and ^. So I am relegated to find another aspect of a text string to single out ones with tildas versus ones with carets. A recent example:

§ -> §

ç -> ç


Thus far I have dealt with all of the ones mentioned upthread, and fixed Mr. Matté's name in quoted posts and on his profile.

I'm also finding many instances of these below, which Bard explains is part of the Latin Extended-B range of Unicode.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/garbled-code.png)

So I am trying to single these characters out to correct or in the case of the one that regularly appears beyond ", remove them.

Quote from: Hunty2022 on September 29, 2023, 09:17:42 AM
My post count here says 892, but on my posts page, it shows 894. I believe it may be my last two posts before the forum shutdown. I am thinking about deleting them and reposting them.

Were those last two posts made on Tuesday morning? If so, I can look on the previous database and extract those based upon your member ID. If you already remade them, then that is just as good.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: TempoNick on September 30, 2023, 11:32:53 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 30, 2023, 08:39:42 AM
Quote from: TempoNick on September 29, 2023, 09:58:05 PM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2023, 11:26:27 AM


User threatened DMCA to remove all his posts. Forum was down, and they were all removed via script. This caused some threads to no longer have a most recent post, breaking things. To fix it, some issues regarding non-ASCII encoding happened.

I would have thought that the terms of service cover that. If you post here, it's public domain. At least that's the way most social media works.

You overlook the potential cost and hassle of fighting someone over it, regardless of who's right. In the legal field, the term "nuisance value" settlement describes how a defendant (or putative defendant) will often settle a plaintiff's weak case just to avoid that problem.

That's something to consider, of course. Maybe you can force somebody to agree to a "loser pays legal fees" provision in the TOS. Maybe you can require them to post bond to cover any legal fees, in order to sue you. That's above my pay grade. Talk to a real attorney, but in some states you have to post bond before you can appeal. Maybe you can do that contractually as well.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on September 30, 2023, 12:03:37 PM
Quote from: TempoNick on September 30, 2023, 11:32:53 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 30, 2023, 08:39:42 AM
You overlook the potential cost and hassle of fighting someone over it, regardless of who's right. In the legal field, the term "nuisance value" settlement describes how a defendant (or putative defendant) will often settle a plaintiff's weak case just to avoid that problem.

That's something to consider, of course. Maybe you can force somebody to agree to a "loser pays legal fees" provision in the TOS. Maybe you can require them to post bond to cover any legal fees, in order to sue you. That's above my pay grade. Talk to a real attorney, but in some states you have to post bond before you can appeal. Maybe you can do that contractually as well.

It was easier for me to delete his posts, act like he never existed, and move on. It is not as if his posts from 2014-21 added all that much value to the board, and I doubt many will be too disappointed that they realized some posts are missing from old threads that are otherwise buried.

The bulk of the forum database clean up from the deletion queries is now complete. The remaining collation/character issue is because I opted to switch databases from mySQL 5.5 to MariaDB 10.6 when implementing the reimport process from the backup I made on Tuesday morning. Ionos does not offer mySQL 5.5 as an option for databases anymore, so we would have eventually needed to change that anyway.

Quote from: TempoNick on September 29, 2023, 09:58:05 PM
I would have thought that the terms of service cover that. If you post here, it's public domain. At least that's the way most social media works.

We will be expanding the verbiage in the Terms of Service to address this copyright issue. We do not have a problem with removing posts on requests if it warrants it (personal information divulged, threats, blatant name calling, etc.). But when a member demands that all of their posts be removed, it is usually because someone or a group set them off, and their reaction was an absolute response to it (something akin to "I want nothing to do this this forum!"). This has happened about 3 or 4 times to my recollection in the 14+ years of the forum's existence.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: TheRhodeGeek on September 30, 2023, 12:34:04 PM
Don't know if this has been said before but the simple machines copyright and 2.0.19 text on the bottom of each page is overlaid with text featuring a $ sign
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Amaury on September 30, 2023, 12:37:38 PM
That's been an issue from before this happened, but I have also noticed it.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on September 30, 2023, 12:41:04 PM
Quote from: TheRhodeGeek on September 30, 2023, 12:34:04 PM
Don't know if this has been said before but the simple machines copyright and 2.0.19 text on the bottom of each page is overlaid with text featuring a $ sign

I will look into it when I'm back home. Thanks.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: rickmastfan67 on September 30, 2023, 09:01:28 PM
Quote from: Alex on September 30, 2023, 12:41:04 PM
Quote from: TheRhodeGeek on September 30, 2023, 12:34:04 PM
Don't know if this has been said before but the simple machines copyright and 2.0.19 text on the bottom of each page is overlaid with text featuring a $ sign

I will look into it when I'm back home. Thanks.

I've been trying to figure that out for awhile.  It's the 'ads' mod that put the extra text there, and I've been trying to figure out where it is in the code to fix it so both show up properly.

It's only an issue with the BC theme(s) & the 'old' core theme.  This is because the ad mod we use was made with the 'Curve' style themes in mind, not the old 'core' one.  So, I had to adapt it as much as possible to work with the BC themes.  That 'copyright' was the one thing I couldn't figure out how to adjust properly to get them both to display properly.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: wriddle082 on September 30, 2023, 09:15:32 PM
Has anybody mentioned how in the Recent Posts box, the font size of the dates and times at the far right is a bit smaller than the post topic and member username at the far left, and all of the dates and times justify to the top.  I tried another browser and it's doing the same thing.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: CovalenceSTU on September 30, 2023, 09:18:00 PM
Quote from: Alex on September 30, 2023, 12:46:45 AM
I overlooked your original post and went back to it, thanks.
I ran some queries on the message bodies and corrected all of the instances listed in the code block above. I then went to do similar on the subject field, and the first query instead truncated the field, causing the subject to display the first part of the body text. Weird error that messed up over 1,100 posts...
Looking at the old database, I copied over the original topic names and corresponding topic id's for those posts, which fell under 44 subjects. I then ran queries to rename the posts on this database, which covered subjects with a left quote - " in them.

So you will notice less garbled text.
There's still more to fix, but not after that sql gaff and definitely no more tonight!  :sleep:
Looks like it's been fixed! Although I guess the database didn't like the "" character as the right quote ” turned the left single quote ‘ into "˜.

I also noticed while writing this that the "new message" icon on the reply page links to new.gif (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/Themes/Button_Copy/images/english/new.gif) (nonexistent) instead of new.png (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/Themes/Button_Copy/images/english/new.png), although it might have been like that before the upgrade.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: rickmastfan67 on October 01, 2023, 03:19:03 AM
Quote from: CovalenceSTU on September 30, 2023, 09:18:00 PM
I also noticed while writing this that the "new message" icon on the reply page links to new.gif (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/Themes/Button_Copy/images/english/new.gif) (nonexistent) instead of new.png (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/Themes/Button_Copy/images/english/new.png), although it might have been like that before the upgrade.

Hmmmm.

I think I have that fixed now.  That was one 'template' page that we didn't have in the BC theme, since I didn't think it needed a mod to it.  I found the referenced 'new.gif', renamed it to 'new.png', and uploaded it to the BC theme section.

So, LMK if that happens again.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: wriddle082 on October 01, 2023, 11:03:56 AM
Quote from: wriddle082 on September 30, 2023, 09:15:32 PM
Has anybody mentioned how in the Recent Posts box, the font size of the dates and times at the far right is a bit smaller than the post topic and member username at the far left, and all of the dates and times justify to the top.  I tried another browser and it's doing the same thing.


This is what I'm talking about.  The left and right sides don't line up.

(https://i.imgur.com/9PH1RU4.png)
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: MATraveler128 on October 01, 2023, 11:07:32 AM
Quote from: wriddle082 on October 01, 2023, 11:03:56 AM
Quote from: wriddle082 on September 30, 2023, 09:15:32 PM
Has anybody mentioned how in the Recent Posts box, the font size of the dates and times at the far right is a bit smaller than the post topic and member username at the far left, and all of the dates and times justify to the top.  I tried another browser and it's doing the same thing.


This is what I'm talking about.  The left and right sides don't line up.

(https://i.imgur.com/9PH1RU4.png)

Interesting. I'm not having that issue on my end.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: rickmastfan67 on October 01, 2023, 11:12:49 AM
Quote from: wriddle082 on October 01, 2023, 11:03:56 AM
Quote from: wriddle082 on September 30, 2023, 09:15:32 PM
Has anybody mentioned how in the Recent Posts box, the font size of the dates and times at the far right is a bit smaller than the post topic and member username at the far left, and all of the dates and times justify to the top.  I tried another browser and it's doing the same thing.


This is what I'm talking about.  The left and right sides don't line up.

(https://i.imgur.com/9PH1RU4.png)

Not having that issue either.

Do you have your zoom in the browser set too high?  Try resetting it to 100% (Ctrl+0).
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: 1995hoo on October 01, 2023, 11:20:11 AM
Mine is not doing that either (viewing in the Brave browser on an iPad).
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Jim on October 01, 2023, 12:25:05 PM
My "recent posts" looks fine at all Zoom levels on Mac Firefox.  Maybe an old file is cached and a force-reload will take care of it?
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hbelkins on October 01, 2023, 07:01:03 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 29, 2023, 05:37:57 PM
I generally appreciate having names, even if just mentioned in private.  That way I know who deny entry to, preemptively block or remove from the groups I manage. 

As an example a "roadside certain shrubbery enthusiast" recently re-emerged on a Facebook group.  Given what I was as told about the malefactor in question I took steps to prevent them from discovering my presence.

An enthusiast of little green shrubs?  :bigass:
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 01, 2023, 07:57:56 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 01, 2023, 07:01:03 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 29, 2023, 05:37:57 PM
I generally appreciate having names, even if just mentioned in private.  That way I know who deny entry to, preemptively block or remove from the groups I manage. 

As an example a "roadside certain shrubbery enthusiast" recently re-emerged on a Facebook group.  Given what I was as told about the malefactor in question I took steps to prevent them from discovering my presence.

An enthusiast of little green shrubs?  :bigass:

Indeed, preemptive blocking measures were taken upon my discovering his presence.  I saw no need to rekindle MTR wars that I wasn't part of begin with.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: wriddle082 on October 02, 2023, 06:22:47 AM
Quote from: Jim on October 01, 2023, 12:25:05 PM
My "recent posts" looks fine at all Zoom levels on Mac Firefox.  Maybe an old file is cached and a force-reload will take care of it?

Played around with zoom levels, which were originally set to 100%.  Reduced it to 90, which fixed it.  Raised it back to 100%, it was still fixed.  Then I refreshed it and it reverted back.

I have been using Duck Duck Go browser on iOS on an iPhone 14 (no, I will NOT use Tapatalk!).  I tried visiting the site on Safari the other day and it was still giving me issues.  And a few minutes ago I fired up my laptop and visited on Chrome, and there were no issues.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: rickmastfan67 on October 02, 2023, 12:29:52 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on October 02, 2023, 06:22:47 AM
I have been using Duck Duck Go browser on iOS on an iPhone 14 (no, I will NOT use Tapatalk!).  I tried visiting the site on Safari the other day and it was still giving me issues.

There's your answer then.

This theme wasn't built with 'mobile' in mind sadly.  Nothing we can really do about that till we consider upgrading the forums to the 2.1 branch.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Jim on October 02, 2023, 04:58:39 PM
Super low priority as far as I'm concerned, but I'll mention it in case it wasn't already in other reports about character encodings.  On pages like https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=33012.msg2871488#msg2871488 the "ñ" in Doña Ana is not showing up correctly.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on October 02, 2023, 06:43:26 PM
Quote from: Jim on October 02, 2023, 04:58:39 PM
Super low priority as far as I'm concerned, but I'll mention it in case it wasn't already in other reports about character encodings.  On pages like https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=33012.msg2871488#msg2871488 the "ñ" in Doña Ana is not showing up correctly.

I am still tackling that issue. Will try a method I read about to wholesale clean all of them up next...
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: LM117 on October 03, 2023, 12:33:14 PM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2023, 11:26:27 AM
Quote from: LM117 on September 29, 2023, 11:11:58 AM
Quote from: intelati49 on September 29, 2023, 10:45:22 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 29, 2023, 10:36:05 AM
Quote from: ZLoth on September 29, 2023, 10:14:11 AM
A forum administrator or three needs a weekend off now nice stiff drinks now.

No kidding. I can only imagine what a flustercluck it was.  :cheers:

Hat's off to them

WTF happened?

User threatened DMCA to remove all his posts. Forum was down, and they were all removed via script. This caused some threads to no longer have a most recent post, breaking things. To fix it, some issues regarding non-ASCII encoding happened.

Thanks for the 411.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hbelkins on October 03, 2023, 04:31:45 PM
I've noticed a few posts showing up with the green "new" arrow indicator despite there not being any new posts in the thread. It's happened twice in the Gordie Howe bridge post on the Road Meets board.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: roadman65 on October 03, 2023, 04:45:58 PM
Something tells me this MMM is not gone nor ever will  be. Sooner or later he will return.

Although Blawpe never returned except twice, but Alps noticed him right away one of the two times and dealt with him with the first return being banned by higher up due to an insult or a threat. However he's been quiet since the second attempt years ago, but still haven't heard from him since.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: wriddle082 on October 03, 2023, 07:18:55 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on October 02, 2023, 12:29:52 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on October 02, 2023, 06:22:47 AM
I have been using Duck Duck Go browser on iOS on an iPhone 14 (no, I will NOT use Tapatalk!).  I tried visiting the site on Safari the other day and it was still giving me issues.

There's your answer then.

This theme wasn't built with 'mobile' in mind sadly.  Nothing we can really do about that till we consider upgrading the forums to the 2.1 branch.

Well the font sizes were fine before the forum was taken down, regardless of browser, so that's why I brought it up.

And thank you to all who worked hard to bring the forum back up!  It was very strange not having the forum in my regular rotation of sites to follow during the downtime.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: rickmastfan67 on October 04, 2023, 03:18:23 AM
Quote from: wriddle082 on October 03, 2023, 07:18:55 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on October 02, 2023, 12:29:52 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on October 02, 2023, 06:22:47 AM
I have been using Duck Duck Go browser on iOS on an iPhone 14 (no, I will NOT use Tapatalk!).  I tried visiting the site on Safari the other day and it was still giving me issues.

There's your answer then.

This theme wasn't built with 'mobile' in mind sadly.  Nothing we can really do about that till we consider upgrading the forums to the 2.1 branch.

Well the font sizes were fine before the forum was taken down, regardless of browser, so that's why I brought it up.

Did you patch the browsers at any point on your phone?  That's what possibly triggered it.  That's all I can think of, since I don't roll iOS (android here for my phone).
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: wriddle082 on October 04, 2023, 12:53:14 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on October 04, 2023, 03:18:23 AM
Quote from: wriddle082 on October 03, 2023, 07:18:55 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on October 02, 2023, 12:29:52 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on October 02, 2023, 06:22:47 AM
I have been using Duck Duck Go browser on iOS on an iPhone 14 (no, I will NOT use Tapatalk!).  I tried visiting the site on Safari the other day and it was still giving me issues.

There's your answer then.

This theme wasn't built with 'mobile' in mind sadly.  Nothing we can really do about that till we consider upgrading the forums to the 2.1 branch.

Well the font sizes were fine before the forum was taken down, regardless of browser, so that's why I brought it up.

Did you patch the browsers at any point on your phone?  That's what possibly triggered it.  That's all I can think of, since I don't roll iOS (android here for my phone).

I did this morning hoping it would fix the issue, and it did not.

But now that I think about it more, I did upgrade the iOS to 17.0.2 from 16.x.x during the down time.  It didn't affect any other sites, but considering the other oddities I'm now starting to catch, I can see this as the possible culprit.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: US 89 on October 04, 2023, 11:43:20 PM
The ô character seems to have been mojibaked to ô.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on October 05, 2023, 11:20:47 AM
One of the rotating news stories says the forum is still down.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on October 06, 2023, 01:33:25 PM
Quote from: Alex on October 02, 2023, 06:43:26 PM
Quote from: Jim on October 02, 2023, 04:58:39 PM
Super low priority as far as I'm concerned, but I'll mention it in case it wasn't already in other reports about character encodings.  On pages like https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=33012.msg2871488#msg2871488 the "ñ" in Doña Ana is not showing up correctly.

I am still tackling that issue. Will try a method I read about to wholesale clean all of them up next...

Quote from: US 89 on October 04, 2023, 11:43:20 PM
The ô character seems to have been mojibaked to ô.

The method I tried did not work as the table in the database that houses all of the posts is too big to import into a new database so that I can clean it up. Ionos times out on the import, giving a proxy error. I attempted to separate the table into five exports, but then when importing, issues occur where records are duplicated, causing the process to abruptly stop. It is a frustrating endeavor, so not worth pursuing anymore.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: kphoger on October 06, 2023, 02:00:02 PM
Quote from: Alex on October 06, 2023, 01:33:25 PM
It is a frustrating endeavor, so not worth pursuing anymore.

At the very least, you should edit the Forum Guidelines (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=992.msg24507#msg24507).

Quote from: Alex on May 21, 2009, 10:34:10 PM
Photos and images posted in forum threads should not exceed 800 pixels in width or 600 pixels in height. Everyone is not using the same monitor. To reference larger images, just add a link from the 800×600 sized image to the larger file in question.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: kphoger on October 06, 2023, 02:32:53 PM
I've got to say, it does make this post of mine look a lot less meaningful:

Quote from: kphoger on May 02, 2013, 11:43:22 AM
Am I the only who memorizes the alt codes?

ñ is alt+164
Ã' is alt+165
á is alt+160
Á is alt+0193
é is alt+130
É is alt+144
í is alt+161
Í is alt+0205
ó is alt+162
Ã" is alt+0211
ú is alt+163
Ú is alt+0218
ü is alt+129
Ü is alt+0220

ß is alt+225
Þ is alt+0222 / makes a good emoticon hat (o:Þ or tongue :-Þ
Ø is alt+0216 / makes a good null symbol
... is alt+0133
– is alt+0151
— is alt+0150
½ is alt+0189
¼ is alt+0188
¾ is alt+0190
° is alt+248
§ is alt+987654321123456789 / I'm sure there's a shorter one but I can never remember it

And the list goes on!
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 06, 2023, 02:34:27 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 06, 2023, 02:32:53 PM
I've got to say, it does make this post of mine look a lot less meaningful:

Quote from: kphoger on May 02, 2013, 11:43:22 AM
Am I the only who memorizes the alt codes?

ñ is alt+164
Ã' is alt+165
á is alt+160
Á is alt+0193
é is alt+130
É is alt+144
í is alt+161
Í is alt+0205
ó is alt+162
Ã" is alt+0211
ú is alt+163
Ú is alt+0218
ü is alt+129
Ü is alt+0220

ß is alt+225
Þ is alt+0222 / makes a good emoticon hat (o:Þ or tongue :-Þ
Ø is alt+0216 / makes a good null symbol
... is alt+0133
– is alt+0151
— is alt+0150
½ is alt+0189
¼ is alt+0188
¾ is alt+0190
° is alt+248
§ is alt+987654321123456789 / I'm sure there's a shorter one but I can never remember it

And the list goes on!
Now I want to know what the last one was, lol.

Also, is it just something on my end, or is the "total users who logged in today" box at the bottom of the main page duplicated?
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: kphoger on October 06, 2023, 02:36:02 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on October 06, 2023, 02:34:27 PM

Quote from: kphoger on October 06, 2023, 02:32:53 PM
§ is alt+987654321123456789 / I'm sure there's a shorter one but I can never remember it

Now I want to know what the last one was, lol.

§
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: 1995hoo on October 06, 2023, 03:48:16 PM
That list above appears to have the en dash (which is Alt-0150 and looks like this – ) reversed with the em dash (Alt-0151, — ), which suggests perhaps a programming error as to the two.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on October 06, 2023, 07:16:10 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 06, 2023, 02:00:02 PM
Quote from: Alex on October 06, 2023, 01:33:25 PM
It is a frustrating endeavor, so not worth pursuing anymore.

At the very least, you should edit the Forum Guidelines (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=992.msg24507#msg24507).

Quote from: Alex on May 21, 2009, 10:34:10 PM
Photos and images posted in forum threads should not exceed 800 pixels in width or 600 pixels in height. Everyone is not using the same monitor. To reference larger images, just add a link from the 800×600 sized image to the larger file in question.

Good call, thanks

I had to look up (https://www.i18nqa.com/debug/utf8-debug.html) what × was, and its "×"
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: bugo on October 07, 2023, 08:31:09 AM
Quote from: intelati49 on September 29, 2023, 12:58:24 PM
I'm *terrified* to ask. I don't frequent rhe non-state/region sections... For good reason I guess??

He spent a lot of his time in the Central States forum. Mostly spreading falsehoods and saying outlandish things to get attention.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: bugo on October 07, 2023, 09:28:25 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 01, 2023, 07:01:03 PM
An enthusiast of little green shrubs?  :bigass:

We usually call them "trees".
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: index on October 22, 2023, 04:36:15 PM
Lately the forum has been barking at me saying posts are coming from my IP too fast. Not sure why.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on October 22, 2023, 04:37:53 PM
Quote from: index on October 22, 2023, 04:36:15 PM
Lately the forum has been barking at me saying posts are coming from my IP too fast. Not sure why.

It's been happening to everyone in the last 2 months or so and predates the forum downtime.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: index on October 22, 2023, 04:40:11 PM
Quote from: 1 on October 22, 2023, 04:37:53 PM
Quote from: index on October 22, 2023, 04:36:15 PM
Lately the forum has been barking at me saying posts are coming from my IP too fast. Not sure why.

It's been happening to everyone in the last 2 months or so and predates the forum downtime.

This would be the first time it's happening to me. Not saying you're wrong, just pointing that out. I didn't see anyone talking about it in this thread or mentioned anywhere else so I didn't know.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: vdeane on October 22, 2023, 07:55:45 PM
Quote from: index on October 22, 2023, 04:40:11 PM
Quote from: 1 on October 22, 2023, 04:37:53 PM
Quote from: index on October 22, 2023, 04:36:15 PM
Lately the forum has been barking at me saying posts are coming from my IP too fast. Not sure why.

It's been happening to everyone in the last 2 months or so and predates the forum downtime.

This would be the first time it's happening to me. Not saying you're wrong, just pointing that out. I didn't see anyone talking about it in this thread or mentioned anywhere else so I didn't know.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=33650.0
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: US 89 on October 23, 2023, 11:07:28 PM
If we're still fixing these, ™ has become ™
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Rothman on October 23, 2023, 11:17:17 PM
I'm still a big fan of Fatbol.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: US 89 on October 23, 2023, 11:29:58 PM
Quote from: US 89 on October 23, 2023, 11:07:28 PM
If we're still fixing these, ™ has become ™

ä has become ä as well
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on October 24, 2023, 07:53:49 AM
Quote from: US 89 on October 23, 2023, 11:29:58 PM
Quote from: US 89 on October 23, 2023, 11:07:28 PM
If we're still fixing these, ™ has become ™

ä has become ä as well

I got rid of a couple thousand of these in the post subjects via database queries yesterday. Will add the two cases you mentioned on my to-do list. Thanks.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: JMoses24 on October 24, 2023, 02:12:49 PM
I had a bit of an issue when I logged in.

When I would click on any internal link (for want of a better term) to access anything else in the forum, it would open in a new tab. Also, an attempt to type in a search box would just lead to something opening in windows explorer. This seems to be fixed after a reboot.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: US 89 on October 24, 2023, 06:12:34 PM
é has become é
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: formulanone on October 24, 2023, 07:31:47 PM
ç (as seen in Curaçao) has turned into ç


Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: kphoger on October 24, 2023, 08:13:42 PM
Quote from: Alex on September 30, 2023, 10:43:19 AM
Thus far I have dealt with all of the ones mentioned upthread ...

Quote from: US 89 on October 24, 2023, 06:12:34 PM
é has become é

Quote from: formulanone on October 24, 2023, 07:31:47 PM
ç (as seen in Curaçao) has turned into ç

Were these last two not already corrected?
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: rickmastfan67 on October 24, 2023, 08:36:44 PM
Quote from: JMoses24 on October 24, 2023, 02:12:49 PM
I had a bit of an issue when I logged in.

When I would click on any internal link (for want of a better term) to access anything else in the forum, it would open in a new tab. Also, an attempt to type in a search box would just lead to something opening in windows explorer. This seems to be fixed after a reboot.

Sounds like you somehow had a stuck key on your keyboard.  Having the 'CTRL' button somehow stuck and clicking on a link will make your browser open in a new window.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: US 89 on October 24, 2023, 11:47:18 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 24, 2023, 08:13:42 PM
Were these last two not already corrected?

They might have been corrected in post titles, but they still show up in the text of actual posts.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: wriddle082 on October 27, 2023, 08:16:01 AM
Quote from: wriddle082 on October 04, 2023, 12:53:14 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on October 04, 2023, 03:18:23 AM
Quote from: wriddle082 on October 03, 2023, 07:18:55 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on October 02, 2023, 12:29:52 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on October 02, 2023, 06:22:47 AM
I have been using Duck Duck Go browser on iOS on an iPhone 14 (no, I will NOT use Tapatalk!).  I tried visiting the site on Safari the other day and it was still giving me issues.

There's your answer then.

This theme wasn't built with 'mobile' in mind sadly.  Nothing we can really do about that till we consider upgrading the forums to the 2.1 branch.

Well the font sizes were fine before the forum was taken down, regardless of browser, so that's why I brought it up.

Did you patch the browsers at any point on your phone?  That's what possibly triggered it.  That's all I can think of, since I don't roll iOS (android here for my phone).

I did this morning hoping it would fix the issue, and it did not.

But now that I think about it more, I did upgrade the iOS to 17.0.2 from 16.x.x during the down time.  It didn't affect any other sites, but considering the other oddities I'm now starting to catch, I can see this as the possible culprit.


It was definitely the iOS that was causing the issue.  Last night I installed iOS 17.1 and now everything is back to normal with regard to line spacing.  And I also had other issues with not hearing some alerts, and now those issues are resolved as well.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on October 27, 2023, 12:10:20 PM
All quoted posts above were fixed because of the queries I just made, so here is what I addressed:

Quote from: US 89 on October 23, 2023, 11:07:28 PM
If we're still fixing these, ™ has become â,,¢

Fixed

Quote from: US 89 on October 23, 2023, 11:29:58 PM
ä has become ä as well

Fixed

Quote from: US 89 on October 24, 2023, 06:12:34 PM
é has become é

Fixed, if any instances that should be © instead became é, that is because © = © and of course SQL cannot parse the difference of the caret and tilda's above the A.

Quote from: formulanone on October 24, 2023, 07:31:47 PM
ç (as seen in Curaçao) has turned into ç

Fixed. The queries may have gotten this right, as 150 or so rows with ç were converted to ç and the remaining 293 rows of § were converted to §.

Quote from: US 89 on October 24, 2023, 11:47:18 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 24, 2023, 08:13:42 PM
Were these last two not already corrected?

They might have been corrected in post titles, but they still show up in the text of actual posts.

This is accurate, as my previous database queries were focused on subject fields.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Rothman on October 27, 2023, 12:14:44 PM
Have to say that the forum has been running pretty slick for me recently, minor special character annoyances aside.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: rickmastfan67 on October 27, 2023, 08:22:25 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on October 27, 2023, 08:16:01 AM
Quote from: wriddle082 on October 04, 2023, 12:53:14 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on October 04, 2023, 03:18:23 AM
Quote from: wriddle082 on October 03, 2023, 07:18:55 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on October 02, 2023, 12:29:52 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on October 02, 2023, 06:22:47 AM
I have been using Duck Duck Go browser on iOS on an iPhone 14 (no, I will NOT use Tapatalk!).  I tried visiting the site on Safari the other day and it was still giving me issues.

There's your answer then.

This theme wasn't built with 'mobile' in mind sadly.  Nothing we can really do about that till we consider upgrading the forums to the 2.1 branch.

Well the font sizes were fine before the forum was taken down, regardless of browser, so that's why I brought it up.

Did you patch the browsers at any point on your phone?  That's what possibly triggered it.  That's all I can think of, since I don't roll iOS (android here for my phone).

I did this morning hoping it would fix the issue, and it did not.

But now that I think about it more, I did upgrade the iOS to 17.0.2 from 16.x.x during the down time.  It didn't affect any other sites, but considering the other oddities I'm now starting to catch, I can see this as the possible culprit.


It was definitely the iOS that was causing the issue.  Last night I installed iOS 17.1 and now everything is back to normal with regard to line spacing.  And I also had other issues with not hearing some alerts, and now those issues are resolved as well.

Good to hear. :)
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on October 29, 2023, 01:29:56 PM
I can't see my sent PMs.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: rickmastfan67 on October 29, 2023, 07:28:28 PM
Quote from: 1 on October 29, 2023, 01:29:56 PM
I can't see my sent PMs.

Mine are working fine.

Perhaps you didn't have the "Save a copy in my outbox" box checked when sending?
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: CtrlAltDel on November 14, 2023, 10:37:17 AM
I think I recall seeing this before the whole legal thing happened, but the text at the bottom of the page is doubled up:

(https://i.imgur.com/ETNM56y.png)
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: CovalenceSTU on November 14, 2023, 01:37:22 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on November 14, 2023, 10:37:17 AM
I think I recall seeing this before the whole legal thing happened, but the text at the bottom of the page is doubled up:

(https://i.imgur.com/ETNM56y.png)
I decided to peek in the inspector and it's because line-height is set to 0. Removing that line fixes it, however there's this fun notice:
(https://i.imgur.com/DZdZyUS.png)
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: rickmastfan67 on November 14, 2023, 09:08:11 PM
Quote from: CovalenceSTU on November 14, 2023, 01:37:22 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on November 14, 2023, 10:37:17 AM
I think I recall seeing this before the whole legal thing happened, but the text at the bottom of the page is doubled up:

(https://i.imgur.com/ETNM56y.png)
I decided to peek in the inspector and it's because line-height is set to 0. Removing that line fixes it, however there's this fun notice:
(https://i.imgur.com/DZdZyUS.png)

As I mentioned before, the 'mod' was designed for the other 'style' of themes in SMF 2.0, and not this style.  I think modifying that would not be an issue here if it fixes this minor issue since both will still be displayed.

However, instead of removing that line, I changed it to '1', and that fixed this issue. :D

Thanks for point me in the right direction to get that fixed.  :cheers:

(Might have to do a 'CTRL+F5' to force a refresh to see the fix.)
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: MATraveler128 on November 16, 2023, 06:21:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/UOXuxSU.jpg)

If anyone ever browses the forum on iOS, does anyone ever get this popup message?
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on November 16, 2023, 06:28:38 PM
I got it for the first time a few days ago on Safari laptop. It has not replaced the parked domain message – I've still gotten that once after I first saw the connection problem message.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Hunty2022 on November 16, 2023, 07:33:18 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on November 16, 2023, 06:21:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/UOXuxSU.jpg)

If anyone ever browses the forum on iOS, does anyone ever get this popup message?

I get it a ton, mostly happening when I hit the go back button.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on November 16, 2023, 08:09:16 PM
It cannot happen via back button for me, as the back button doesn't reload the page when I do it.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: davewiecking on November 16, 2023, 09:30:53 PM
Quote from: 1 on November 16, 2023, 08:09:16 PM
It cannot happen via back button for me, as the back button doesn't reload the page when I do it.

I usually browse using the iOS Safari browser via the "Recent Unread Topics" page. The update to iOS 16 was at about the same time as the forum hiccup, so I'm not sure which caused it. But now every time I hit the back button, I do get an updated page. Sometimes it only shows a few fresh posts, ignoring the others that were there a few minutes ago. Not at all a big deal, just....different.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on December 26, 2023, 05:00:44 PM
Starting about a week ago, whenever I make a search, click one of the results, and then go back to the searched page using the "back" button, it says this:

"The server appears to be down, or your connection isn't working as expected. Please try again later. Your submission failed. Please go back and try again."

Previously, it would ask me if I wanted to resend a form if I had visited more than one page after the search (or skip that question entirely if I only viewed one page), and if I said yes, it would go back to the search.

EDIT: This no longer seems to be an issue.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: jlam on January 12, 2024, 10:42:10 AM
Here's another thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=25047.0) where the topic titles got screwed up.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: vdeane on February 29, 2024, 12:48:18 PM
Found a couple more threads with title issues.
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=32773.0
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=30567.0
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: SignBridge on March 27, 2024, 07:55:07 PM
I checked off several topics to receive both alerts and e-mails, but no e-mails were received even though there are new posts in those topics. They're not in my junk folder either. Also I was having the same problem in the old forum but I hoped it would be corrected with this revision.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: rickmastfan67 on March 28, 2024, 06:33:04 AM
Quote from: SignBridge on March 27, 2024, 07:55:07 PMI checked off several topics to receive both alerts and e-mails, but no e-mails were received even though there are new posts in those topics. They're not in my junk folder either. Also I was having the same problem in the old forum but I hoped it would be corrected with this revision.

Emails are currently broken.  No idea why.  So, don't expect any from the forum at this time.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on March 28, 2024, 08:25:05 AM
Searching a single topic always gives 0 results.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on March 28, 2024, 08:25:57 AM
Quote from: jlam on January 12, 2024, 10:42:10 AMHere's another thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=25047.0) where the topic titles got screwed up.

Finally got around to fixing this.

Quote from: vdeane on February 29, 2024, 12:48:18 PMFound a couple more threads with title issues.
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=32773.0
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=30567.0

Also fixed
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on March 28, 2024, 08:56:08 AM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on March 28, 2024, 06:33:04 AM
Quote from: SignBridge on March 27, 2024, 07:55:07 PMI checked off several topics to receive both alerts and e-mails, but no e-mails were received even though there are new posts in those topics. They're not in my junk folder either. Also I was having the same problem in the old forum but I hoped it would be corrected with this revision.

Emails are currently broken.  No idea why.  So, don't expect any from the forum at this time.

Quote from: rickmastfan67 on March 28, 2024, 06:24:37 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on March 27, 2024, 02:18:25 PMI tried doing that. I still can't log in from my computer. It won't accept my password and password reset emails won't go through

Emails being sent are still broken sadly.  No idea why.

Are you sure you fully cleared your cookies?  Have you tried a 'Private' window in your browser to see if you can login via that on your PC?  If it works in a Private window, that means not all cookies from the old forum have been cleared out in the normal windows.

Happy to report that I restored email functionality from the Forum. Let us know if you encounter anymore problems with receiving alerts.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Amaury on March 28, 2024, 02:18:49 PM
That's amazing! Thanks, Alex! What was the issue?
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Alex on March 28, 2024, 08:52:20 PM
Quote from: Amaury on March 28, 2024, 02:18:49 PMThat's amazing! Thanks, Alex! What was the issue?

The mail server settings needed to be reset and changed to the correct mail type. I also had to reset the email password. Took three tests to get everything working.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: SignBridge on March 28, 2024, 08:55:07 PM
Quote from: Alex on March 28, 2024, 08:56:08 AM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on March 28, 2024, 06:33:04 AM
Quote from: SignBridge on March 27, 2024, 07:55:07 PMI checked off several topics to receive both alerts and e-mails, but no e-mails were received even though there are new posts in those topics. They're not in my junk folder either. Also I was having the same problem in the old forum but I hoped it would be corrected with this revision.

Emails are currently broken.  No idea why.  So, don't expect any from the forum at this time.

Quote from: rickmastfan67 on March 28, 2024, 06:24:37 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on March 27, 2024, 02:18:25 PMI tried doing that. I still can't log in from my computer. It won't accept my password and password reset emails won't go through

Emails being sent are still broken sadly.  No idea why.

Are you sure you fully cleared your cookies?  Have you tried a 'Private' window in your browser to see if you can login via that on your PC?  If it works in a Private window, that means not all cookies from the old forum have been cleared out in the normal windows.

Happy to report that I restored email functionality from the Forum. Let us know if you encounter anymore problems with receiving alerts.

Yes, the e-mails starting coming today. Thank you!
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on April 01, 2024, 09:15:01 AM
I'm seeing ads again, even though I'm logged in. Is there any way to fix this?

(That said, the ads have no idea what my age or gender is. It's kind of hilarious.)
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: rickmastfan67 on April 01, 2024, 10:17:11 AM
Quote from: hotdogPi on April 01, 2024, 09:15:01 AMI'm seeing ads again, even though I'm logged in. Is there any way to fix this?

I've just tested the settings, and I'm not sure how you got any ads while being logged in.  Only the 'Parking Lot' group should get any till they get 3+ posts.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on April 01, 2024, 10:20:32 AM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on April 01, 2024, 10:17:11 AM
Quote from: hotdogPi on April 01, 2024, 09:15:01 AMI'm seeing ads again, even though I'm logged in. Is there any way to fix this?

I've just tested the settings, and I'm not sure how you got any ads while being logged in.  Only the 'Parking Lot' group should get any till they get 3+ posts.

Maybe it has something to do with what day it is?
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: rickmastfan67 on April 01, 2024, 10:24:18 AM
Quote from: hotdogPi on April 01, 2024, 10:20:32 AM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on April 01, 2024, 10:17:11 AM
Quote from: hotdogPi on April 01, 2024, 09:15:01 AMI'm seeing ads again, even though I'm logged in. Is there any way to fix this?

I've just tested the settings, and I'm not sure how you got any ads while being logged in.  Only the 'Parking Lot' group should get any till they get 3+ posts.

Maybe it has something to do with what day it is?

No.  I give you my word, there's nothing to do with that day on the site.  Especially since we're still not fully back up to snuff.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: hotdogPi on April 01, 2024, 10:26:38 AM
Facepalm. Don't believe everything you read on April Fools.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: rickmastfan67 on April 01, 2024, 10:35:39 AM
Quote from: hotdogPi on April 01, 2024, 10:26:38 AMFacepalm. Don't believe everything you read on April Fools.

Hey, I've been trying to swat issues with the forum since we've gotten it back up.  Alex only just fixed the code for ads to be displayed, so I'm playing it safe.  Especially since some settings got reset.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Rothman on April 01, 2024, 10:47:37 AM
Quote from: hotdogPi on April 01, 2024, 10:26:38 AMFacepalm. Don't believe everything you read on April Fools.

Someone needs to work on their April Fools jokes...  I think this one earned a D.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: N9JIG on April 01, 2024, 07:45:17 PM
When I am reading Forum posts, old and new, any mention of Arizona's largest city and capital is showing up as "other Desert City".

While it could be just due to the day it is today, if not then there seems to be an issue in the Forum's database.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: Rothman on April 01, 2024, 11:29:31 PM
Quote from: N9JIG on April 01, 2024, 07:45:17 PMWhen I am reading Forum posts, old and new, any mention of Arizona's largest city and capital is showing up as "other Desert City".

While it could be just due to the day it is today, if not then there seems to be an issue in the Forum's database.

C-
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: formulanone on April 24, 2024, 02:39:54 PM
I found a silly item in my profile that won't seem to go away.

The username info in the Skype field doesn't seem to fully disappear; you can remove it, but then it eventually comes back after any profile changes.

I forget if I ever actually filled in that information because I haven't used Skype in over 10 years.
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: rickmastfan67 on April 24, 2024, 11:40:50 PM
Quote from: formulanone on April 24, 2024, 02:39:54 PMI found a silly item in my profile that won't seem to go away.

The username info in the Skype field doesn't seem to fully disappear; you can remove it, but then it eventually comes back after any profile changes.

I forget if I ever actually filled in that information because I haven't used Skype in over 10 years.

I just manually removed it for you.  Hopefully this will stick. ;)
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: formulanone on April 25, 2024, 07:54:11 AM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on April 24, 2024, 11:40:50 PM
Quote from: formulanone on April 24, 2024, 02:39:54 PMI found a silly item in my profile that won't seem to go away.

The username info in the Skype field doesn't seem to fully disappear; you can remove it, but then it eventually comes back after any profile changes.

I forget if I ever actually filled in that information because I haven't used Skype in over 10 years.

I just manually removed it for you.  Hopefully this will stick. ;)

So far, so good; thanks!
Title: Re: Forum functionality issues
Post by: LilianaUwU on May 06, 2024, 02:05:43 AM
Searching per topic still doesn't work.