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Started by andy3175, April 17, 2014, 12:50:19 AM

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NE2

It won't link to I-85 twice... So much derp in this thread.
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kendancy66

Quote from: Henry on July 17, 2015, 01:05:29 PM
Quote from: WashuOtaku on July 16, 2015, 10:29:51 PM
Quote from: InterstatesRules445 on July 16, 2015, 08:44:14 PM
When will the signed Interstate 285.

Likely when it is all finished and linked twice to I-85.  Basically, not anytime soon.
FTFY

And BTW, I'm suspecting that it will be a secret designation, similar to how I-595 east of Washington is treated on US 50.
I doubt that. We are talking about North Carolina, not Colorado or Utah

WashuOtaku

Quote from: NE2 on July 17, 2015, 02:04:05 PM
It won't link to I-85 twice... So much derp in this thread.

Honestly, I got I-285 and I-295 mixed-up again.

InterstatesRules445

I though they started the construction in March of 2014.

InterstatesRules445

Quote from: bob7374 on July 16, 2015, 11:30:49 PM
Quote from: InterstatesRules445 on July 16, 2015, 08:44:14 PM
When will the signed Interstate 285.
It doesn't appear to be any time soon. The above post about progress on construction along US 52 is on one of the two projects needed to be completed before I-285 can be signed between I-85 and I-40. The other project, further north in Forsyth County, was not included as a funded project in the 2016-2025 State Transportation Improvement Project (STIP) list. This means, unless its status is changed, construction would not start until after 2025. This doesn't include the proposal to extend the designation further north to the Winston-Salem Northern Beltway (I-74) which would require an upgrade of US 52 through Winston-Salem itself.

More information on my Future I-285 Website: http://www.gribblenation.net/ncfutints/fut285.html

I thought the project stared in March if 2014 (1 Year and 4 months) :confused:

bob7374

Quote from: InterstatesRules445 on July 20, 2015, 10:23:56 PM
Quote from: bob7374 on July 16, 2015, 11:30:49 PM
Quote from: InterstatesRules445 on July 16, 2015, 08:44:14 PM
When will the signed Interstate 285.
It doesn't appear to be any time soon. The above post about progress on construction along US 52 is on one of the two projects needed to be completed before I-285 can be signed between I-85 and I-40. The other project, further north in Forsyth County, was not included as a funded project in the 2016-2025 State Transportation Improvement Project (STIP) list. This means, unless its status is changed, construction would not start until after 2025. This doesn't include the proposal to extend the designation further north to the Winston-Salem Northern Beltway (I-74) which would require an upgrade of US 52 through Winston-Salem itself.

More information on my Future I-285 Website: http://www.gribblenation.net/ncfutints/fut285.html

I thought the project stared in March if 2014 (1 Year and 4 months) :confused:
The project in Davidson County started in and was supposed to be completed last month, but a check of NCDOT's Construction Progress Report shows completion has been put off until next summer. There are no current US 52 construction contracts active for Forsyth County with the exception of work being done with a connector road that will tie into US 52 in the downtown area.

InterstatesRules445

Quote from: Henry on July 17, 2015, 01:05:29 PM
Quote from: WashuOtaku on July 16, 2015, 10:29:51 PM
Quote from: InterstatesRules445 on July 16, 2015, 08:44:14 PM
When will the signed Interstate 285.

Likely when it is all finished and linked twice to I-85.  Basically, not anytime soon.
FTFY

I don't think its going to be that long. It was to fully signed in 2011,  and according to Wikipedia it was to complete in June 2015.

And BTW, I'm suspecting that it will be a secret designation, similar to how I-595 east of Washington is treated on US 50.

Interstate 69 Fan

Quote from: InterstatesRules445 on July 23, 2015, 07:28:54 PM
Quote from: Henry on July 17, 2015, 01:05:29 PM
Quote from: WashuOtaku on July 16, 2015, 10:29:51 PM
Quote from: InterstatesRules445 on July 16, 2015, 08:44:14 PM
When will the signed Interstate 285.

Likely when it is all finished and linked twice to I-85.  Basically, not anytime soon.
FTFY

I don't think its going to be that long. It was to fully signed in 2011,  and according to Wikipedia it was to complete in June 2015.

And BTW, I'm suspecting that it will be a secret designation, similar to how I-595 east of Washington is treated on US 50.
Thread Revival! I-285, Approved!
https://apps.ncdot.gov/newsreleases/details.aspx?r=14850
Apparently I’m a fan of I-69.  Who knew.

LM117

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mvak36

#34
Quote from: LM117 on February 15, 2018, 02:47:20 PM
About damn time.

That's great news.  :clap:

Hopefully in the future, they will upgrade US52 from I-40 north to I-74.
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LM117

#35
Quote from: mvak36 on February 15, 2018, 03:03:39 PM
Quote from: LM117 on February 15, 2018, 02:47:20 PM
About damn time.

That's great news.  :clap:

Hopefully in the future, they will upgrade US52 from I-40 north to I-74.

Much, if not all, of US-52 through downtown Winston-Salem was upgraded to interstate standards a few years ago if I'm not mistaken.

But I have no doubt that I-285 will eventually be extended to the W-S Northern Beltway. Bank on it.
“I don’t know whether to wind my ass or scratch my watch!” - Jim Cornette

mvak36

Quote from: LM117 on February 15, 2018, 03:50:41 PM
Quote from: mvak36 on February 15, 2018, 03:03:39 PM
Quote from: LM117 on February 15, 2018, 02:47:20 PM
About damn time.

That's great news.  :clap:

Hopefully in the future, they will upgrade US52 from I-40 north to I-74.

Much, if not all, of US-52 through downtown Winston-Salem was upgraded to interstate standards a few years ago if I'm not mistaken.

But I have no doubt that I-285 will eventually be extended to the W-S Northern Beltway. Bank on it.

Now they need to work on finishing 785 and other 3dis.  :D
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Finrod

I still don't like this numbering.  I don't like seeing straight roads that aren't bypasses with even leading digit 3DIs.
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WashuOtaku

Quote from: Finrod on February 17, 2018, 09:53:57 PM
I still don't like this numbering.  I don't like seeing straight roads that aren't bypasses with even leading digit 3DIs.

I would have preferred I-685 or maybe a 3DI from I-74 myself, but an even-digit number is the usual rule in connecting two interstates (though there are exceptions made, see I-540).

The Ghostbuster

I too was starting to wonder if the US 52 freeway would ever become Interstate 285. Once the Interstate 74 east loop of Winston-Salem is completed, will 285 be extended north of 40, as previously planned?

wdcrft63

Quote from: Finrod on February 17, 2018, 09:53:57 PM
I still don't like this numbering.  I don't like seeing straight roads that aren't bypasses with even leading digit 3DIs.
I'm afraid the 3di even/odd rules died on the day I-264 was extended from I-64 to a dead end at Virginia Beach.

Actually: in addition to loops and spurs, the Interstate System includes connectors, routes connecting one 2di to a different 2di. I don't think this was even considered in the beginning, so there was no rule for numbering them. A lot of people seem to think they're more like loops than like spurs. You disagree, as is surely your right.

jcarte29

Quote from: WashuOtaku on February 20, 2018, 10:15:51 AM
Quote from: Finrod on February 17, 2018, 09:53:57 PM
I still don't like this numbering.  I don't like seeing straight roads that aren't bypasses with even leading digit 3DIs.

I would have preferred I-685 or maybe a 3DI from I-74 myself, but an even-digit number is the usual rule in connecting two interstates (though there are exceptions made, see I-540).

I don't necessarily disagree with your first point, but a 3DI from I-74 would be years and years off, considering it would only connect at the northern end of the W-S project. Besides, I think W-S (given I am native to the Twin City) appreciates an association/connection of I-85 (easier to follow, heck I've been traveling that route for years given its freeway stature no matter the shield)
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40, 85, 95, 77, 277(NC), 485(NC), 440(NC), 540(NC), 795(NC), 140(NC), 73, 74, 840(NC), 26, 20, 75, 285(GA), 81, 64, 71, 275(OH), 465(IN), 65, 264(VA), 240(NC), 295(VA), 526(SC), 985(GA), 395(FL), 195(FL)

WashuOtaku

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on February 20, 2018, 05:01:59 PM
I too was starting to wonder if the US 52 freeway would ever become Interstate 285. Once the Interstate 74 east loop of Winston-Salem is completed, will 285 be extended north of 40, as previously planned?

I do not believe it was ever previously planned and I have found no evidence beyond the Highway forums that was ever the plan, I believe it was just assumed.  It could in the future none the less, nothing is impossible in North Carolina.

Mapmikey

Quote from: WashuOtaku on February 22, 2018, 08:20:42 AM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on February 20, 2018, 05:01:59 PM
I too was starting to wonder if the US 52 freeway would ever become Interstate 285. Once the Interstate 74 east loop of Winston-Salem is completed, will 285 be extended north of 40, as previously planned?

I do not believe it was ever previously planned and I have found no evidence beyond the Highway forums that was ever the plan, I believe it was just assumed.  It could in the future none the less, nothing is impossible in North Carolina.

NCDOT tried to get US 52 from I-40 north to the eventual location of the north side of the W-S beltway officially designated as TEMP I-74.  AASHTO turned them down in April 1996.

I-285 was approved in 2005 to run to the eventual W-S beltway according to https://www.interstate-guide.com/i-285_nc.html but NC's application to FHWA only included up to I-40 (https://connect.ncdot.gov/resources/safety/Route%20Changes/2005_06_16.pdf)

Strider

Quote from: WashuOtaku on February 22, 2018, 08:20:42 AM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on February 20, 2018, 05:01:59 PM
I too was starting to wonder if the US 52 freeway would ever become Interstate 285. Once the Interstate 74 east loop of Winston-Salem is completed, will 285 be extended north of 40, as previously planned?

I do not believe it was ever previously planned and I have found no evidence beyond the Highway forums that was ever the plan, I believe it was just assumed.  It could in the future none the less, nothing is impossible in North Carolina.



Yes, it is on their long term plans (unlisted, however) as soon as US 52 is being rebuilt to interstate standards, NCDOT wants to extend I-285 north from I-40 to I-74 north of the city, but that is like a couple of years away. Even though the application only indicates the routing of I-285 from I-85 to I-40, but that is because US 52 north of I-40 is mostly non-interstate standard freeway with except of some rebuilt areas on US 52 (the recently opened Research Pkwy interchange and the bridges over Liberty St and the RR tracks).

bob7374

Quote from: Strider on February 22, 2018, 10:43:17 AM
Quote from: WashuOtaku on February 22, 2018, 08:20:42 AM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on February 20, 2018, 05:01:59 PM
I too was starting to wonder if the US 52 freeway would ever become Interstate 285. Once the Interstate 74 east loop of Winston-Salem is completed, will 285 be extended north of 40, as previously planned?

I do not believe it was ever previously planned and I have found no evidence beyond the Highway forums that was ever the plan, I believe it was just assumed.  It could in the future none the less, nothing is impossible in North Carolina.



Yes, it is on their long term plans (unlisted, however) as soon as US 52 is being rebuilt to interstate standards, NCDOT wants to extend I-285 north from I-40 to I-74 north of the city, but that is like a couple of years away. Even though the application only indicates the routing of I-285 from I-85 to I-40, but that is because US 52 north of I-40 is mostly non-interstate standard freeway with except of some rebuilt areas on US 52 (the recently opened Research Pkwy interchange and the bridges over Liberty St and the RR tracks).
Here is a map of NCDOT Strategic Highway Corridors for the Triad area created in 2004 which shows I-285 between I-40 and I-74, the footnote 3 states I-285 extended to I-74 Beltway interchange if US 52 upgraded to interstate standards:

triplemultiplex

Quote from: bob7374 on February 22, 2018, 10:34:36 PM
Here is a map of NCDOT Strategic Highway Corridors for the Triad area created in 2004 which shows I-285 between I-40 and I-74, the footnote 3 states I-285 extended to I-74 Beltway interchange if US 52 upgraded to interstate standards:


What the hell is that future E-W freeway north of Bus I-40?
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bob7374

Quote from: triplemultiplex on February 26, 2018, 11:55:34 AM
Quote from: bob7374 on February 22, 2018, 10:34:36 PM
Here is a map of NCDOT Strategic Highway Corridors for the Triad area created in 2004 which shows I-285 between I-40 and I-74, the footnote 3 states I-285 extended to I-74 Beltway interchange if US 52 upgraded to interstate standards:


What the hell is that future E-W freeway north of Bus I-40?
That was a proposed connector freeway between I-73 at NC 68 by the PTI Airport to the I-74 W-S Beltway. I proposed that it be signed I-273. AFAIK it has not appeared in recent highway plans for the region. Perhaps it will be proposed again once the Beltway is completed.

mvak36

Quote from: bob7374 on February 26, 2018, 12:13:32 PM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on February 26, 2018, 11:55:34 AM
Quote from: bob7374 on February 22, 2018, 10:34:36 PM
Here is a map of NCDOT Strategic Highway Corridors for the Triad area created in 2004 which shows I-285 between I-40 and I-74, the footnote 3 states I-285 extended to I-74 Beltway interchange if US 52 upgraded to interstate standards:


What the hell is that future E-W freeway north of Bus I-40?
That was a proposed connector freeway between I-73 at NC 68 by the PTI Airport to the I-74 W-S Beltway. I proposed that it be signed I-273. AFAIK it has not appeared in recent highway plans for the region. Perhaps it will be proposed again once the Beltway is completed.

Isn't it a bit redundant to I-40? I am just curious. I don't know what the traffic counts are on either of that stretch of I-40, so maybe there is  a need.
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Strider

Quote from: mvak36 on February 28, 2018, 09:32:34 AM
Quote from: bob7374 on February 26, 2018, 12:13:32 PM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on February 26, 2018, 11:55:34 AM
Quote from: bob7374 on February 22, 2018, 10:34:36 PM
Here is a map of NCDOT Strategic Highway Corridors for the Triad area created in 2004 which shows I-285 between I-40 and I-74, the footnote 3 states I-285 extended to I-74 Beltway interchange if US 52 upgraded to interstate standards:


What the hell is that future E-W freeway north of Bus I-40?
That was a proposed connector freeway between I-73 at NC 68 by the PTI Airport to the I-74 W-S Beltway. I proposed that it be signed I-273. AFAIK it has not appeared in recent highway plans for the region. Perhaps it will be proposed again once the Beltway is completed.

Isn't it a bit redundant to I-40? I am just curious. I don't know what the traffic counts are on either of that stretch of I-40, so maybe there is  a need.


Traffic is pretty busy on I-40 that is because it is just 4 lanes between Winston Salem and Greensboro. But, it is in process of being widening to 6 lanes in the future, so I don't really see the need for that I-73/I-74 connector, but if it is in their future plans, then they must see something I don't.



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