This is true? - Geographic oddities that defy conventional wisdom

[Chris]

I was on vacation in Norway last month. The farthest north I got this time was 62.45 N. Which isn't very far north by Scandinavian standards. It is still southern Norway. Or central Sweden. But when you compare that latitude to North America.... You'll end up in Nunavut or on Baffin Island.

If you watch Ice Road Truckers, that show is located in Manitoba. Those winter roads are pretty far south compared to similar latitudes in Europe.

Speaking of Canada, their provinces are considerably larger than one might think. Manitoba stretches over 750 miles north to south, similar to the distance from Chicago to the Gulf of Mexico.

[kalvado]

Second... You'll never see three digit heat in Canada, as you just demonstrated..

Err, Winnipeg has record highs for 5 months (May-September) in the 100s. Toronto has three (July-Sept).

Even Edmonton, at 53N, has reached 99F (though Moscow - similarly a long way from the softening effects of the ocean on temperature is at 55N and has gone over 100F).

Isn't Canada officially using Celsius?

[ftballfan]

I was watching NBC News last evening and correspondent Stephanie Gosk....reporting on the heat wave made the comment that Burlington Vermont reached 90 deg and only 50 miles from the Canadian Border!

Wow!.....Imagine That! How could it possibly get that warm in Burlington so close to Canada!  And looking at the weather map NBC presented.....those soaring temps just stopped at the Canadian Border. Guess it's just a big arctic wasteland above!

I'm in Fredericton, New Brunswick today.... also 50 miles from the Border. Today's high is 32 with a humidex of 41 and in case you're wondering....that's 90 with a "˜feel like' temp of 105.   

Alpena, MI, which is at a higher latitude than Burlington, VT, hit 99 degrees on Saturday. Also, the Toronto Blue Jays played their weekend series with the roof closed due to the heat.

[empirestate]

Where is the northernmost recorded temperature of 100 degrees or more?

[kalvado]

Where is the northernmost recorded temperature of 100 degrees or more?

Fort McMurray shows a record of 103F, 60 deg north. Fort Yukon, AK shows 100 as a record - 66.5 N
I doubt you'll find anything further north in Europe  or Russia .

[abefroman329]

Already in the first page I mentioned Virginia reaches further West than West Virginia. Now I've found the Republic of Ireland reaches further North than Northern Ireland.

Yeah, "Northern Ireland" is a bit of a misnomer - it's more like Northeastern Ireland.  And the Donegal and Northern Ireland accents are indistinguishable to my ears.

[Chris]

Where is the northernmost recorded temperature of 100 degrees or more?

Fort McMurray shows a record of 103F, 60 deg north. Fort Yukon, AK shows 100 as a record - 66.5 N
I doubt you'll find anything further north in Europe  or Russia .

That would correspond with the latitude of northern Scandinavia. The highest I found is some 34.5 C  / 94 F in Gällivare and Jokkmokk, Sweden, which is at 67 N.

It's interesting how far north 30+ C has been recorded though, even in Finnmark as far north as 70 N.

[mapman1071]

Second... You'll never see three digit heat in Canada, as you just demonstrated..

Err, Winnipeg has record highs for 5 months (May-September) in the 100s. Toronto has three (July-Sept).

Even Edmonton, at 53N, has reached 99F (though Moscow - similarly a long way from the softening effects of the ocean on temperature is at 55N and has gone over 100F).

Isn't Canada officially using Celsius?

100c (212F) would be boiling!

[Road Hog]

The warmest temperature ever recorded at the North Pole was 55ºF. Perfect football weather.

[bing101]

Here is a video on time zones.

[english si]

I doubt you'll find anything further north in Europe  or Russia .

Why the dichotomy between Europe and Russia? Now sure, there's Asian Russia (which is the only part of Asia at the latitudes we're talking about), but...

Yeah, "Northern Ireland" is a bit of a misnomer - it's more like Northeastern Ireland.  And the Donegal and Northern Ireland accents are indistinguishable to my ears.

Well both are Ulster (which is why NI couldn't be called that), though there are a few different sub-accents* within that, though none of them give two hoots about the 1922-boundary (save the patch of Ulster Scots around Letterkenny in Donegal not crossing the border into the Derry/Strabane areas) and so there's little difference at the border.

*And the question of whether you can spot the Belfast vowel shifts, or Derry intonation, is moot.

[kalvado]

I doubt you'll find anything further north in Europe  or Russia .

Why the dichotomy between Europe and Russia? Now sure, there's Asian Russia (which is the only part of Asia at the latitudes we're talking about), but...

How would you say that instead, without going into a laundry list of countries - or putting everything into "Eurasia" bin?
Thing is, there is some pretty geographic dichotomy here: Europe heated by Gulf stream and colder asian part, russian shore of the arctic ocean. Of course there is a transition region- Barents and White seas
What I really don't understand is why there are higher temperatures in continental US/Canada (and try to say that without using country names as well) . Looks like effect of polar vortex shape; jetstream can deviate further north over there, allowing warm air in.

[english si]

"Eurasia" is fine. "Europe or Asia" is also good even though the only bit of Asia we're talking about is Russian. "Europe or Siberia" will do too.

TBF to you, I'm reacting from a context different from yours, where Slavs (especially Russians) are othered as not 'European' with the idea that that 'European' = superior (leading to a "we're not racist - Slavs are white and we hate them for the same reasons") and that being seen as woke and liberal - part of it is politics (Putin), but most of it is just prejudice and hate masquerading as the non-bigoted option.

[kalvado]

"Eurasia" is fine. "Europe or Asia" is also good even though the only bit of Asia we're talking about is Russian. "Europe or Siberia" will do too.

TBF to you, I'm reacting from a context different from yours, where Slavs (especially Russians) are othered as not 'European' with the idea that that 'European' = superior (leading to a "we're not racist - Slavs are white and we hate them for the same reasons") and that being seen as woke and liberal - part of it is politics (Putin), but most of it is just prejudice and hate masquerading as the non-bigoted option.

I am not going to explain you why, but I find this tirade extremely funny...

[Chris]

Montevideo is farther south than Buenos Aires, making it the southernmost capital in South America.

From a glance it appears that Buenos Aires is the farthest south, since it is south of the Río de la Plata while Montevideo is north of it.

Also: Bolivia has a navy despite not being on any ocean.

Another interesting comparison. Antarctica is at the opposite latitude of Trondheim, Norway (63.15 S / N)

[KEVIN_224]

Do you mean the northernmost tip of Antarctica?

[jon daly]

Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but RI borders NY.

[bing101]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQyxG4vTyZ8

Now this Hong Kong and China erasing borders.

[bing101]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyuZi9fHC4Y

Here is how Chicago got some geographical advantages to be a large city.

[GaryV]

Maybe they should tell them the Illinois River isn't in Chicago.

[ET21]

Maybe they should tell them the Illinois River isn't in Chicago.

It turns into the Des Plaines River, which connects to the I&M Canal which leads into the Chicago River. The Illinois River name does end just south of Channahon IL

[GaryV]

Maybe they should tell them the Illinois River isn't in Chicago.

It turns into the Des Plaines River, which connects to the I&M Canal which leads into the Chicago River. The Illinois River name does end just south of Channahon IL

But until they dug the sewage canal, they didn't even touch.

[ET21]

Maybe they should tell them the Illinois River isn't in Chicago.

It turns into the Des Plaines River, which connects to the I&M Canal which leads into the Chicago River. The Illinois River name does end just south of Channahon IL

But until they dug the sewage canal, they didn't even touch.

Quite true. If we really want to get technical, it does enter Chicago briefly as the river goes underneath I-190 and the Blue Line tracks. But yes, until the canal was built, the river never went all the way into downtown Chicago proper.

[mrsman]

Maybe they should tell them the Illinois River isn't in Chicago.

It turns into the Des Plaines River, which connects to the I&M Canal which leads into the Chicago River. The Illinois River name does end just south of Channahon IL

But until they dug the sewage canal, they didn't even touch.

Quite true. If we really want to get technical, it does enter Chicago briefly as the river goes underneath I-190 and the Blue Line tracks. But yes, until the canal was built, the river never went all the way into downtown Chicago proper.

The Des Plaines River and the Chicago River do come close.  Before the canal was built, they could carry items a short distance between boats on the two different rivers.  The canal eliminated the need for this and made shipping quicker.

[tchafe1978]

The canal was also built with the purpose of allowing Chicago to reverse the flow of the Chicago River and flush the city's sewage down the Illinois River to the Mississippi.