First doghouse

[traffic light guy]

This is about as old as they get.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dsQ5vFQGuI

I say you're correct. I can't find anything earlier than 8" Marbelite doghouses

[Amtrakprod]

What about the 5 section signals common on Long Island:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7464959,-73.1699227,3a,16.8y,170.16h,99.27t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1s_cJ4KnqCYSaWnhgCuigD7Q!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D_cJ4KnqCYSaWnhgCuigD7Q%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D187.6723%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7308545,-73.4593765,3a,26.9y,214.21h,102.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA8IaS38xACs9PETHSugt4A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

[jakeroot]

What about the 5 section signals common on Long Island:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7464959,-73.1699227,3a,16.8y,170.16h,99.27t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1s_cJ4KnqCYSaWnhgCuigD7Q!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D_cJ4KnqCYSaWnhgCuigD7Q%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D187.6723%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7308545,-73.4593765,3a,26.9y,214.21h,102.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA8IaS38xACs9PETHSugt4A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The configuration screams "old", but the lamp size indicates that it's newer. Didn't Long Island use 8-inch signals back in the day (if not, still)?

[traffic light guy]

These signals are modern, they look like Econolites

LG-M327

[jakeroot]

These signals are modern, they look like Econolites

Which Econolite? They look like McCain's to me.

[RestrictOnTheHanger]

What about the 5 section signals common on Long Island:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7464959,-73.1699227,3a,16.8y,170.16h,99.27t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1s_cJ4KnqCYSaWnhgCuigD7Q!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D_cJ4KnqCYSaWnhgCuigD7Q%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D187.6723%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7308545,-73.4593765,3a,26.9y,214.21h,102.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA8IaS38xACs9PETHSugt4A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The configuration screams "old", but the lamp size indicates that it's newer. Didn't Long Island use 8-inch signals back in the day (if not, still)?

That doghouse configuration is still being installed on LI by state and local agencies. Its been the norm for decades. But FYA is slowly appearing there.

8 inch signals are being phased out there too, looks like this installation was put in around 5 years ago, just before 8 inch signals fell out of favor

[jakeroot]

What about the 5 section signals common on Long Island:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7464959,-73.1699227,3a,16.8y,170.16h,99.27t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1s_cJ4KnqCYSaWnhgCuigD7Q!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D_cJ4KnqCYSaWnhgCuigD7Q%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D187.6723%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7308545,-73.4593765,3a,26.9y,214.21h,102.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA8IaS38xACs9PETHSugt4A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The configuration screams "old", but the lamp size indicates that it's newer. Didn't Long Island use 8-inch signals back in the day (if not, still)?

That doghouse configuration is still being installed on LI by state and local agencies. Its been the norm for decades. But FYA is slowly appearing there.

8 inch signals are being phased out there too, looks like this installation was put in around 5 years ago, just before 8 inch signals fell out of favor

I've always preferred that "side by side" 5-section layout, versus a doghouse (at least when used overhead). It bothers me when the distance between the signal orbs is different depending on the state of the signal, so I prefer for the RYG orbs to all be in a line. I see that style in Colorado too, though it looks more professional with backplates and a normal perpendicular mast arm.

[freebrickproductions]

These signals are modern, they look like Econolites

Which Econolite? They look like McCain's to me.

It's the current style that Econolite does for their aluminum signals. Oftenly called the "McCain style". One easy way to tell without looking at the logo is that a McCain has the hinges and latches extend past the door, while an Econolite has them within the door like a Durasig.

[jakeroot]

These signals are modern, they look like Econolites

Which Econolite? They look like McCain's to me.

It's the current style that Econolite does for their aluminum signals. Oftenly called the "McCain style". One easy way to tell without looking at the logo is that a McCain has the hinges and latches extend past the door, while an Econolite has them within the door like a Durasig.

Never bothered to think of the differences being in the hinge design. I'll have to keep an eye out for that in the future. Maybe more Econolite's around here than I realized.

Come to think of it, the Econolite looks to have a slightly narrower backside. Or am I crazy?

[freebrickproductions]

These signals are modern, they look like Econolites

Which Econolite? They look like McCain's to me.

It's the current style that Econolite does for their aluminum signals. Oftenly called the "McCain style". One easy way to tell without looking at the logo is that a McCain has the hinges and latches extend past the door, while an Econolite has them within the door like a Durasig.

Never bothered to think of the differences being in the hinge design. I'll have to keep an eye out for that in the future. Maybe more Econolite's around here than I realized.

Come to think of it, the Econolite looks to have a slightly narrower backside. Or am I crazy?

I'd have to check, though I wouldn't be surprised.

[traffic light guy]

These signals are modern, they look like Econolites

Which Econolite? They look like McCain's to me.

It's the current style that Econolite does for their aluminum signals. Oftenly called the "McCain style". One easy way to tell without looking at the logo is that a McCain has the hinges and latches extend past the door, while an Econolite has them within the door like a Durasig.

Never bothered to think of the differences being in the hinge design. I'll have to keep an eye out for that in the future. Maybe more Econolite's around here than I realized.

Come to think of it, the Econolite looks to have a slightly narrower backside. Or am I crazy?

I'd have to check, though I wouldn't be surprised.

Speaking of doghouses, I know that there's a Marbelite doghouse in your area, which was installed around the same time as my Eagle flatback doghouses. Do you know where it is, I wonder if it's still in service. Two of the five Eagle flatback doghouses already got taken out of service, and another one is on Pennsylvania's replacement grant list. I'm glad God allowed me to document them before they were replaced.

[traffic light guy]

freebrickproductions gave me the link to the doghouse via flickr, something to note about the doghouse is that it's extremely wide, not sure if it's older or newer than PA's eagle flatback doghouses. This is at Tuscaloosa, AL:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.2062092,-87.5254173,3a,75y,320.06h,86.16t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sm1IHro8gW7Akx9atrUVs9g!2e0!5s20071101T000000!7i13312!8i6656

[NoGoodNamesAvailable]

freebrickproductions gave me the link to the doghouse via flickr, something to note about the doghouse is that it's extremely wide, not sure if it's older or newer than PA's eagle flatback doghouses. This is at Tuscaloosa, AL:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.2062092,-87.5254173,3a,75y,320.06h,86.16t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sm1IHro8gW7Akx9atrUVs9g!2e0!5s20071101T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Cute! It's trying to intimidate us.

[traffic light guy]

freebrickproductions gave me the link to the doghouse via flickr, something to note about the doghouse is that it's extremely wide, not sure if it's older or newer than PA's eagle flatback doghouses. This is at Tuscaloosa, AL:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.2062092,-87.5254173,3a,75y,320.06h,86.16t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sm1IHro8gW7Akx9atrUVs9g!2e0!5s20071101T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Cute! It's trying to intimidate us.

It could be in a horror film called "The Doghouse Signal"

[freebrickproductions]

Tuscaloosa isn't really in my "immediate area"...

[traffic light guy]

Here is an Eagle flatback doghouse that was taken by Steve, this was in Municie, Indiana. These were installed around the same time as my doghouses:

Muncie traffic signals by Steve, on Flickr

I have a very keen interest in old doghouses, unfortunately, these were replaced over a decade ago, they were most likely installed in the early-to-mid 70s. As I said, this isn't the first doghouse ever, but it's giving us more clues to the history of doghouses

[traffic light guy]

Yuck, google maps has images of the trash that replaced the doghouses on Bristol Oxford Valley Road:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1187638,-74.8643387,3a,15y,98.68h,93.98t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sbpjQjPiMzmXeiFtIPAhZmw!2e0!5s20180601T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&authuser=0

[jakeroot]

Yuck, google maps has images of the trash that replaced the doghouses on Bristol Oxford Valley Road:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1187638,-74.8643387,3a,15y,98.68h,93.98t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sbpjQjPiMzmXeiFtIPAhZmw!2e0!5s20180601T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&authuser=0

I have no opinion on the age of the old signals, but the signal placement was better before.

[traffic light guy]

Yuck, google maps has images of the trash that replaced the doghouses on Bristol Oxford Valley Road:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1187638,-74.8643387,3a,15y,98.68h,93.98t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sbpjQjPiMzmXeiFtIPAhZmw!2e0!5s20180601T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&authuser=0

I have no opinion on the age of the old signals, but the signal placement was better before.

Yeah, the original placement was better, the new signals were installed while the old ones were still up, so they had to squeeze them into the intersection somehow.

[traffic light guy]

I just found another old doghouse, this is in Ohio. And holy shit, this is a good find:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0607113,-80.6308504,3a,30.4y,299.15h,104.48t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sYxLHlBo5s8yyhQIE6VD0Ig!2e0!5s20180601T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Sorry that I can't find any other old doghouses besides eagle flatbacks, but I think the doghouse on the opposite end of the intersection may be a Crouse-hinds type R

[jakeroot]

Well, I'll give you credit. That whole setup looks fuckin' ancient. The green is barely visible, and the paint is wearing off like no other.

[traffic light guy]

Well, I'll give you credit. That whole setup looks fuckin' ancient. The green is barely visible, and the paint is wearing off like no other.

Both Doghouses are ancient. One is an Eagle flatback and the one with the paint chips might be a.....crouse hinds? Ironically, the Eagle flatback is the older doghouse

[Roadsguy]

I just found another old doghouse, this is in Ohio. And holy shit, this is a good find:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0607113,-80.6308504,3a,30.4y,299.15h,104.48t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sYxLHlBo5s8yyhQIE6VD0Ig!2e0!5s20180601T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Sorry that I can't find any other old doghouses besides eagle flatbacks, but I think the doghouse on the opposite end of the intersection may be a Crouse-hinds type R

Are those doghouses used for split phasing? Not sure how else a doghouse in each direction without turning lanes could be used.

[jakeroot]

I just found another old doghouse, this is in Ohio. And holy shit, this is a good find:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0607113,-80.6308504,3a,30.4y,299.15h,104.48t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sYxLHlBo5s8yyhQIE6VD0Ig!2e0!5s20180601T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Sorry that I can't find any other old doghouses besides eagle flatbacks, but I think the doghouse on the opposite end of the intersection may be a Crouse-hinds type R

Are those doghouses used for split phasing? Not sure how else a doghouse in each direction without turning lanes could be used.

Good observation. I think that's exactly the case. 4-section tower might not have allowed enough clearance, so a doghouse was used instead.

[Roadsguy]

I just found another old doghouse, this is in Ohio. And holy shit, this is a good find:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0607113,-80.6308504,3a,30.4y,299.15h,104.48t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sYxLHlBo5s8yyhQIE6VD0Ig!2e0!5s20180601T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Sorry that I can't find any other old doghouses besides eagle flatbacks, but I think the doghouse on the opposite end of the intersection may be a Crouse-hinds type R

Are those doghouses used for split phasing? Not sure how else a doghouse in each direction without turning lanes could be used.

Good observation. I think that's exactly the case. 4-section tower might not have allowed enough clearance, so a doghouse was used instead.

Were four-section towers with the green arrow on the bottom (or the upside-down T signals) used back then?