NY 17/"I-86"

[empirestate]

There was an image on the project website; not sure if can still be dug up or not.

I had a hard time finding anything.  Good luck

https://www.dot.ny.gov/portal/page/portal/regional-offices/region9/projects/nys-rte17-hale_eddy-hancock/visualizations

Was that alternative eventually selected? Did they complete the EIS? That page dates from 2010, and my recollection is that things pretty much stalled out at that stage.

[kalvado]

There was an image on the project website; not sure if can still be dug up or not.

I had a hard time finding anything.  Good luck

https://www.dot.ny.gov/portal/page/portal/regional-offices/region9/projects/nys-rte17-hale_eddy-hancock/visualizations

Thank you!
But this is exactly what looks impossible at a first glance - running a local road on the north side of a highway. My impression is that it has to involve a lot of rock blasting - aka moving the mountain...

[empirestate]

There was an image on the project website; not sure if can still be dug up or not.

I had a hard time finding anything.  Good luck

https://www.dot.ny.gov/portal/page/portal/regional-offices/region9/projects/nys-rte17-hale_eddy-hancock/visualizations

Thank you!
But this is exactly what looks impossible at a first glance - running a local road on the north side of a highway. My impression is that it has to involve a lot of rock blasting - aka moving the mountain...

It's not really that steep or crowded through there; there's already plenty of private property with improvements on the north side of the highway.

[Roadgeek Adam]

The question is the purpose. The section has had dwindling traffic numbers (9000s in 2009, 7000s in 2014). Is it worth bulldozing property and spending money on something where an accident isn't likely?

[Rothman]

Why can't NYDOT pull a Breezewood and designate I-86 fully now. It's only a few random intersections in the middle of nowhere.

Because FHWA NY's Division would not allow it.

I posted a list of the remaining projects to be done and a personal estimate of how much they cost some time ago and the list has not changed since I posted it.

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Had to laugh at seicer's post that since design is done, "all" that is needed is the funding for construction.  Oh, is that all?  Construction is just 70%+ of the total cost of projects. 

That is my continuing point:  With nine digits of cost left to do the full conversions, the cost is just not justified.  Heck, one NYSDOT Commissioner drove down NY 17 and thought the conversion should be taken off the table forever, not just delayed.

Keep waiting all you want, but it is going to be over a decade to see the entire conversion through, if not years more.

[JJBers]

Keep waiting all you want, but it is going to be over a decade to see the entire conversion through, if not years more.

Well, I guess it took 40-60 years to fully complete I-90...so I guess we can wait.

[roadman65]

Keep waiting all you want, but it is going to be over a decade to see the entire conversion through, if not years more.

Well, I guess it took 40-60 years to fully complete I-90...so I guess we can wait.

I-95 is still not completed as well.  That is one of the originals as well.

[jp the roadgeek]

Keep waiting all you want, but it is going to be over a decade to see the entire conversion through, if not years more.

Well, I guess it took 40-60 years to fully complete I-90...so I guess we can wait.

I-95 is still not completed as well.  That is one of the originals as well.

And who knows when I-69 will ever be completed.

[Alps]

Keep waiting all you want, but it is going to be over a decade to see the entire conversion through, if not years more.

Well, I guess it took 40-60 years to fully complete I-90...so I guess we can wait.

I-95 is still not completed as well.  That is one of the originals as well.

And who knows when I-69 will ever be completed.

But it has to be! It was legislated! </I-73 and I-74>

[sparker]

Keep waiting all you want, but it is going to be over a decade to see the entire conversion through, if not years more.

Well, I guess it took 40-60 years to fully complete I-90...so I guess we can wait.

I-95 is still not completed as well.  That is one of the originals as well.

And who knows when I-69 will ever be completed.

But it has to be! It was legislated! </I-73 and I-74>

Two words:  Unfunded Mandates!!!

[cl94]

The Quickway has several substandard ramps and RIROs, including "Exit 111" in eastern Sullivan County. Those will cost more to upgrade simply because of the amount of development, especially in Orange County. 2030 is an optimistic estimate.

[compdude787]

The Quickway has several substandard ramps and RIROs, including "Exit 111" in eastern Sullivan County. Those will cost more to upgrade simply because of the amount of development, especially in Orange County. 2030 is an optimistic estimate.

Seems like they could just close that exit because there's a road running alongside NY 17 that connects it with exit 110.

[seicer]

There are several exits that could and should be closed for that reason.

[cl94]

The Quickway has several substandard ramps and RIROs, including "Exit 111" in eastern Sullivan County. Those will cost more to upgrade simply because of the amount of development, especially in Orange County. 2030 is an optimistic estimate.

Seems like they could just close that exit because there's a road running alongside NY 17 that connects it with exit 110.

They've been trying for 10 years. The gas station at the RIRO has been fighting it and the residents around 110 don't want the increased traffic.

There are several exits that could and should be closed for that reason.

Not as many as one would think, but yes, there are a few. 127-129 stick out there- you could probably close the three of them. Not like any have access to/from the west (except 129, which is on top of 130 with an access road connecting them). Likewise, 125 is on top of the more-useful 124.

[Strider]

Are they planning on signing I-86 from its temporary ending to I-81 anytime soon?

[cl94]

Are they planning on signing I-86 from its temporary ending to I-81 anytime soon?

Yes, when they're done with the work in Binghamton. That's the holdup at this point.

[vdeane]

I think there's possibility of moving exit 125 if the Legoland thing goes through.

[cl94]

I think there's possibility of moving exit 125 if the Legoland thing goes through.

Legoland Goshen is almost a done deal at this point. They have most of the necessary approvals. Just need to build the thing.

[JJBers]

I think there's possibility of moving exit 125 if the Legoland thing goes through.

Legoland Goshen is almost a done deal at this point. They have most of the necessary approvals. Just need to build the thing.

Well, that makes a Legoland 150 miles away instead of 1350 miles away.

[GreenLanternCorps]

Are they planning on signing I-86 from its temporary ending to I-81 anytime soon?

Yes, when they're done with the work in Binghamton. That's the holdup at this point.

So, if Google maps is correct, when the I-81/I-86 construction is done, I-86 will be continuous from I-90 to Windsor, NY at the NY-79 interchange?

[Rothman]

Are they planning on signing I-86 from its temporary ending to I-81 anytime soon?

Yes, when they're done with the work in Binghamton. That's the holdup at this point.

So, if Google maps is correct, when the I-81/I-86 construction is done, I-86 will be continuous from I-90 to Windsor, NY at the NY-79 interchange?

I don't believe so.  Still conversion work to be done east of Elmira.

[sparker]

Are they planning on signing I-86 from its temporary ending to I-81 anytime soon?

Yes, when they're done with the work in Binghamton. That's the holdup at this point.

So, if Google maps is correct, when the I-81/I-86 construction is done, I-86 will be continuous from I-90 to Windsor, NY at the NY-79 interchange?

I don't believe so.  Still conversion work to be done east of Elmira.

How far east of Elmira?  It's apparently OK and signed east to Waverly/US 220, so any substandard sections would have to be east of there in the segment through Owego and Vestal.  Any word on current or pending projects along that stretch?

[Rothman]

There might be one more upgrade project on NY 17, actually, between the Tioga County line and Prospect Mountain/Kamikaze Curve.  Not sure if that's all been incorporated into the Prospect Mountain project.

[vdeane]

I think I remember hearing that I-86 would be signed on the conclusion of the project, so maybe it got rolled in.

[GenExpwy]

The reference markers on the Allegany Reservation have been switched back to " 17 " , because the Senecas refuse to recognize I-86.

http://www.oleantimesherald.com/news/state-dot-crews-replace-mile-markers-with-signs/article_70ea19b0-bb86-11e7-a8c9-b7c2c4cf4d20.html