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Started by Brandon, November 17, 2013, 07:53:08 AM

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Brandon

No, not Mini-Me, but close.  How common are these smaller versions of signs on the road?  These are in the median (if you can call it that) of Kirk Road in Kane County, and the signs are maybe 1/3rd the size of the standard ones.



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txstateends

I'm surprised anyone notices those, if they go by them at even a moderate speed.

I've seen some tiny speed limit signs (on reeeaaly short posts) in a county east of Dallas, should have snapped a couple with my camera, oh well, maybe next time.  Oh, and for those not into wrong fonts--they're also arial (or helvetica)!
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Big John

MUTCD tells you the minimum allowable size for that type of road, and these are too small for that.  I am thinking that with the narrow median, the compliant signs were getting ht and damaged.

Mr. Matté




Those little spotches on the right-hand side? That's the County Route number. At least in the former instance, there is a "JCT CR 579" sign beforehand.

Brian556

Dallas very frequently uses 18x18 DO NOT ENTER signs, even where space is not limited.
Crossroads installed 12x18 speed limit signs on Naylor Rd in the mid-2000's.


KEK Inc.

I need the Hubble Telescope to see those country route shields. 
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US71

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PurdueBill

The MUTCD does have a narrow Keep Right sign (R4-7c) for median applications like this, but it looks like instead of that, a normally-proportioned but too-small sign was used.


Zeffy

Quote from: Mr. Matté on November 17, 2013, 06:46:15 PM
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Those little spotches on the right-hand side? That's the County Route number. At least in the former instance, there is a "JCT CR 579" sign beforehand.

This seems to be a Mercer County thing, since this is how they are supposed to look:

http://goo.gl/maps/ec44h
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Mr. Matté

Quote from: Zeffy on November 18, 2013, 01:20:09 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on November 17, 2013, 06:46:15 PM
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Those little spotches on the right-hand side? That's the County Route number. At least in the former instance, there is a "JCT CR 579" sign beforehand.

This seems to be a Mercer County thing, since this is how they are supposed to look:

http://goo.gl/maps/ec44h

Well, no, Somerset uses Clearview. This is a good installation.

Zeffy

Well, no. Somerset County doesn't always use Clearview. Here's some non Clearview examples:

http://goo.gl/maps/wVvIc
http://goo.gl/maps/TpQy5
http://goo.gl/maps/tkEJK

And here's another mini County Route shield on the intersection with US 206: http://goo.gl/maps/1oT1O
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formulanone

#11
Peoria, IL:



Also, some of the US 30 shields on top of the mile markers near Cedar Rapids, IA are vaguely bigger than postage stamps.

US71

There's a small US 56 near Kansas City that's about the size of a No Parking sign.
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hbelkins

Lots of smaller route markers are used in the northwestern part of Virginia (from the Covington area stretching north toward Strasburg).


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cjk374

At least in north Louisiana, the DOTD is starting to replace their control city directional/mileage signs & the recreational direction signs with signs so small, you strain your eyes trying to read them.  :wow:    :banghead:  The older signs they replace usually required 2 sign posts, where the new ones only need 1.
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Billy F 1988

Just passed a mini I-90 assembly today going near Exit 104 at Orange Street. I took a quick glance at it and went "What the hell? :?" I don't know who put that there, but technically, for this kind of roadway, you're supposed to place a 36x36 expressway type of Interstate shield, not 18x18. That is for a rural or side arterial setting.



Here is "mini I-90" coming from the Orange Street on-ramp to westbound I-90.
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Zeffy

Another one dealing with Bear Tavern Road near the ramps to I-95:

http://goo.gl/maps/rH8JI
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JMoses24

#17
Some smaller versions of stop and yield signs have been placed along Industrial Road in Florence, KY. I'll grab some snapshots tomorrow.

SSOWorld



This is likely a product of Fontana and not CalTrans.
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hbelkins

Quote from: hbelkins on November 19, 2013, 03:10:26 PM
Lots of smaller route markers are used in the northwestern part of Virginia (from the Covington area stretching north toward Strasburg).

Here are some examples. In a couple of them, you can see the standard 24 x 24 sign for comparison purposes:







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Zeffy

Quote from: hbelkins on December 02, 2013, 11:06:18 AM



Are those Series B numerals being used in those US shields?
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Tarkus

Speed limit signs in Annapolis, MD.  Holy crap, are those things tiny.  And they have "school zones" with photo enforcement everywhere.  It's like they don't want you to know what the speed limit is, so you'll cough up some cash.

WillWeaverRVA

Quote from: hbelkins on December 02, 2013, 11:06:18 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 19, 2013, 03:10:26 PM
Lots of smaller route markers are used in the northwestern part of Virginia (from the Covington area stretching north toward Strasburg).

Here are some examples. In a couple of them, you can see the standard 24 x 24 sign for comparison purposes:







The mini signs are also scattered around other areas of Virginia, mostly rural ones, but they do sometimes appear in other areas, such as school entrances like this one in Stafford County:
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Scott5114

Quote from: Tarkus on December 05, 2013, 01:59:52 AM
Speed limit signs in Annapolis, MD.  Holy crap, are those things tiny.  And they have "school zones" with photo enforcement everywhere.  It's like they don't want you to know what the speed limit is, so you'll cough up some cash.

If you get a ticket, you might be able to get it tossed out for MUTCD non-compliance.
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jeffandnicole

Quote from: Scott5114 on December 08, 2013, 02:38:53 PM
Quote from: Tarkus on December 05, 2013, 01:59:52 AM
Speed limit signs in Annapolis, MD.  Holy crap, are those things tiny.  And they have "school zones" with photo enforcement everywhere.  It's like they don't want you to know what the speed limit is, so you'll cough up some cash.

If you get a ticket, you might be able to get it tossed out for MUTCD non-compliance.

I doubt a municipal judge would care about that whole MUTCD thingimajigger, especially if the defendant doesn't have a LOT of technical proof regrading the proper signage for that street based on the speed limit.



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