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NE TX: New Bois d'Arc Creek Reservoir and Related Highway Modifications

Started by Brian556, July 27, 2019, 12:35:14 AM

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Brian556

A new reservoir is under construction in Northeast Texas, near the town of Bonham.

The map shows that fingers of the new reservoir will come up to US 82. In GSV, you can see work starting on a section of US 82 that looks like it would need to be raised to prevent it from flooding when the level of this new reservoir gets high.

GSV:https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6076129,-96.0360668,3a,15y,265.05h,87.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgi-87XZAb-sueaQzEPcSNg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6034317,-96.1295432,3a,18.4y,61.47h,88.46t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1s-uy_AhY7j-XnLk50NbU2Tw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D-uy_AhY7j-XnLk50NbU2Tw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D225.8729%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100

Strangely, TxDOT Project Tracker does not show any highway projects related to the reservoir, including the one visible on GSV

Scroll through this slide show PDF to find info on FM road changes: https://www.ntmwd.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/2016-05-21-Sen-Hall-town-hall-Fannin-County-FINAL.pdf
It says "FM 1396 to be re-routed over current FM 897 to US 82"
So, it looks like the bridge over the reservoir will be in the vicinity of CR 2945

Bridge Const Pic:https://www.ketr.org/post/bois-darc-reservoir-project-involves-500-700-workers-new-bonham-high-school-nears-completion



Chris

The project website: https://boisdarclake.org/

Evidently this is the first major reservoir to be constructed in Texas in 30 years.

The FM 897 bridge north of Dodd City:




Road Hog

There's no need to reroute US 82; its elevation is sufficient to be above the lake's flood plain. The construction that's underway on 82 is a widening to make it a 4-lane expressway between Bonham and the Lamar County line. Unrelated to the new lake.

edwaleni

This project essentially takes the water of the Bois dArc basin which flows north to the Red, collects it, and then pumps it back south to McKinney to serve the growing DFW north metro area.

The DFW area is running out of river sources to dam in east and north Texas that they don't have to share with anyone. (unlike the Red, which they have to share with Oklahoma)

This forces them to create more and more extreme projects to collect and redistribute water.

Look for a project in some future of Clear Creek near Bolivar. It's still one of the SE flowing watersheds that have not come under a dam.  It's the only spot where there are no oil production activities.  The upper Clear has a large number of them and the lake can't go back any further.


Brian556

Quote from: edwaleni on July 27, 2019, 05:04:48 PM
This project essentially takes the water of the Bois dArc basin which flows north to the Red, collects it, and then pumps it back south to McKinney to serve the growing DFW north metro area.

The DFW area is running out of river sources to dam in east and north Texas that they don't have to share with anyone. (unlike the Red, which they have to share with Oklahoma)

This forces them to create more and more extreme projects to collect and redistribute water.

Look for a project in some future of Clear Creek near Bolivar. It's still one of the SE flowing watersheds that have not come under a dam.  It's the only spot where there are no oil production activities.  The upper Clear has a large number of them and the lake can't go back any further.

Is this idea from your head or some other source? There are indeed oil production activities there. There is was an oil field in Bolivar. It is on the old general highway maps. Might not be active now. I swear I saw a pump jack in this field about 15 years ago: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.3688716,-97.2511805,672m/data=!3m1!1e3

yakra

Quote from: https://boisdarclake.org/press-releases/new-road-and-bridge-over-future-bois-darc-lake-open-to-traffic/
FM 897 will provide north, south access across the lake and connect US 82 to FM 1396

Fannin County, Texas – August 18, 2020


The new FM 897 road and bridge over the future Bois d'Arc Lake is now open to traffic. Construction crews opened the 6.2-mile-long road and bridge (1.3 miles of that length) today. FM 897 connects Highway 82 on the south with FM 1396 on the north.

Quote from: Brian556 on July 27, 2019, 12:35:14 AM
So, it looks like the bridge over the reservoir will be in the vicinity of CR 2945
No imagery in Google Maps yet, but in the TM Highway Browser select "ESRI WorldImagery" from the layer menu.

Quote from: Brian556 on July 27, 2019, 12:35:14 AM
Scroll through this slide show PDF to find info on FM road changes: https://www.ntmwd.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/2016-05-21-Sen-Hall-town-hall-Fannin-County-FINAL.pdf
It says "FM 1396 to be re-routed over current FM 897 to US 82"
"Existing FM 1396 highway will be re-routed along current FM 897 right-of-way to U.S. 82"
Not that it makes much difference whether it's FM 897 itself or RoW slated to be FM 897 (tomato-tomato), but anyway.
I find it odd that they'd designate it FM 897, only to have it never be FM 897, instead relocating FM 1396 on top of it.
It appears some wires were crossed or TXDOT changed their minds since that was published (May 21, 2016) -- looks like it's designated as an extension of FM 897.
Quote from: https://publicdocs.txdot.gov/minord/MinuteOrderDocLib/115921.pdf
IT IS THEREFORE ORDERED by the commission that the designation of FM 897 is extended from FM 1396 southward along a new location, CR 2650, and CR 2945 to the current northern limit of FM 897, a distance of approximately 5.6 miles; and FM 897 is realigned and designated from its current northern limit southwestward along a new location to US 82, and eastward concurrent with US 82 to the current intersection of FM 897 and US 82, a distance of approximately 1.4 miles

The TXDOT Highway Designations shapefiles tipped me off to this; they're very useful for keeping track of changes to highway designations:
Quote from: http://gis-txdot.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/txdot-highway-designations
The Transportation Planning and Programming (TPP) Division of the Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) created and maintains this dataset as a repository for all highway designation changes approved by the Texas Transportation Commission (the Commission), as documented in the "Minute Orders."  This dataset includes additions and updates to, and removals from, the state highway system as approved by the Commission.
Record 1059 notes: "Extend and realign designation of FM 897".
However, the files don't mention the removal of FM 897 from the old alignment through Lannius, or the removal of the closed section of FM 1396. :/

More on the FM 1396 closure:
Quote from: page 3 of https://boisdarclake.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/BDL-What-to-Expect-During-Construction-Factsheet-FINAL-2.27.19.pdf
Traffic and Road Impacts

The reservoir construction itself will also close several local county roads. To compensate, nine smaller roadways around the lake will be adjusted or improved to ensure ease of navigation. In addition, the existing FM 897 will be extended from Hwy 82 north through Lannius to FM 1396. A portion of FM 1396 will be closed once the FM 897 extension is complete. A new bridge 1.3 miles in length is being constructed to provide north-south access over the lake.
I've not seen any news articles specifically confirming the closure, but FM 897 is indeed complete.

And, why? This article announcing the opening of the FM 897 extension explains:
Quote from: https://www.kten.com/story/42512740/fm-897-bridge-opens-in-fannin-county-marks-first-major-development-for-bois-darc
The bridge extends about a mile over the lake but with FM 897 up and running, another roadway has to fall.

"The reason TxDOT will close FM 1396 is because it crosses Bois D'Arc Creek, so it'll be partially underwater in the future," [North Texas Municipal Water District spokesperson Jeff] McKito said.

With the new bridge now open, workers can focus on the next step in the process: Filling the reservoir with water.

Which is now happening:
Quote from: https://boisdarclake.org/press-releases/first-major-reservoir-in-texas-in-nearly-30-years-now-filling/
Bois d'Arc Lake hits major milestone for water for North Texans

Fannin County, TX – April 14, 2021


Bois d'Arc Lake, the first major reservoir in Texas in nearly 30 years, is now filling. The North Texas Municipal Water District (NTMWD) began impounding, or capturing, water on the 16,641-acre lake today.
So if the lake is filling, then surely FM 1396 must be closed.

Quote from: https://boisdarclake.org/construction/reservoir-site/roadway-improvements-and-bridge/
Status of New Roads and Bridge

All roads are open to traffic. The Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) inspected the FM 897 road and bridge and it opened to the public in August 2020.
I assume by "all roads", they meant "all new roads", or "all permanent roads". :spin:

How much of FM 1396 is closed?
Quote from: https://bdlql.watermarksmartdesign.com/construction/schedule-status-construction-alerts/
Permanent Road Closures

FM 1396: Will be closed at Bois d'Arc Creek northwest and southeast to the 541-foot elevation level. Expected to close when FM 897 opens in late 2020.
541', eh? Lemme nerd around with the TravelMapping devel tools & see what I come up with...
NW: ~33.697081°, -96.003421°
SE: ~33.673410°, -95.975652°
(LOL another source quoted below provides coords. Wonder how far off my estimates are...)

...But that's only where the road's physically closed. Segments of FM 1396 on either side will be turned over to Fannin County:
Quote from: page 7 of https://boisdarclake.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/2017-06-22-Fannin-County-Agreement-Concerning-Water-Suppy-and-Development-of-LBCR.pdf
i. Replacement of FM 1396. The primary road that will be impacted by Reservoir construction is FM 1396. As provided in the District' s May 2011 Transportation Plan (the " Transportation Plan"), the current recommendation regarding offsetting the impact to FM 1396 is to replace it with a new FM 897 from US 82 to FM 1396, including a new bridge over the Reservoir. The proposed extension of FM 897 and the new bridge would be constructed in accordance with TxDOT standards.

Because the Reservoir will impact FM 1396 by eliminating a segment of the road, portions of the road will be removed from the TxDOT highway system. Fannin County agrees to accept the right-of-way (" ROW") of FM 1396 and assume responsibility for maintenance of FM 1396 ( 1) between FM 2029 and the north shoreline of the Reservoir; and ( 2) between CR 2745 and the south shoreline of the Reservoir. Fannin County also agrees to accept the ROW and assume responsibility for maintenance of the existing segment of FM 897 from US 82 to CR 2945.

New designations:
Quote from: https://newtools.cira.state.tx.us/upload/page/7034/docs/Order%202020-06-09a%20-%20Road%20Naming%20Changes.pdf
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT ORDERED BY THE FANNIN COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT:

The following roads, or portions thereof, are to be renamed or renumbered:

  • The existing "old" FM 897 in Lannius from US 82 to "new" FM 897 shall be renamed to Lannius Rd.
  • The existing east-west section of CR 2915 from "new" FM 897 to "old" FM 897 in Lannius shall be renumbered to CR 2918.
  • The existing south section of FM 1396 from CR 2745 to the boundary for Bois d'Arc Lake (33.673154, -95.975476) shall be renamed to Old 1396 South.
  • The existing north section of FM 1396 from FM 2029 to the boundary for Bois d'Arc Lake (33.696707, -96.003324) shall be renamed to Old 1396 North.
  • The existing east-west section of CR 2655 from "new" FM 897 to CR 2615 shall be renumbered to CR 2654.
  • The existing north-south section of CR 2730 from the intersection of the existing southmost east-west section of CR 2730 to the intersection of the existing northmost east-west section of CR 2730 was renumbered to CR 2725 on May 5, 2020. With this action, it shall revert to CR 2730.
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Road Hog

They have a temporary spillway set up to keep the lake from getting TOO full while they work on the rest of the intakes and other structures.

And it's not the only new lake being built in Fannin County: https://lakeralphhall.com/

bwana39

Quote from: Brian556 on July 27, 2019, 12:35:14 AM
A new reservoir is under construction in Northeast Texas, near the town of Bonham.

The map shows that fingers of the new reservoir will come up to US 82. In GSV, you can see work starting on a section of US 82 that looks like it would need to be raised to prevent it from flooding when the level of this new reservoir gets high.

GSV:https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6076129,-96.0360668,3a,15y,265.05h,87.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgi-87XZAb-sueaQzEPcSNg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6034317,-96.1295432,3a,18.4y,61.47h,88.46t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1s-uy_AhY7j-XnLk50NbU2Tw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D-uy_AhY7j-XnLk50NbU2Tw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D225.8729%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100

Strangely, TxDOT Project Tracker does not show any highway projects related to the reservoir, including the one visible on GSV

Scroll through this slide show PDF to find info on FM road changes: https://www.ntmwd.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/2016-05-21-Sen-Hall-town-hall-Fannin-County-FINAL.pdf
It says "FM 1396 to be re-routed over current FM 897 to US 82"
So, it looks like the bridge over the reservoir will be in the vicinity of CR 2945

Bridge Const Pic:https://www.ketr.org/post/bois-darc-reservoir-project-involves-500-700-workers-new-bonham-high-school-nears-completion



How did Fannin County get labeled as Northeast Texas?   Even in the overly generous depiction of Northeast Texas from Wikipedia it is left out.

Growing up I  heard the definition as two or three things.

1) An arc 100 miles from Texarkana  This doesn't reach the eastern boundary of Fannin County.
2) Counties that touch Titus , Camp, or Morris County. (Which were originally part of Red River County)
3) Counties within 50 Miles of Mount Pleasant.

Generally, Northeast Texas is defined by the useful over air television signals being Shreveport (in recent years CH51 in Longview and CH7 in Tyler cover some of this area as well.)

The general idea of Northeast Texas is Bowie, Red River, Cass, Morris, Titus, Camp. Franklin Counties. It might contain Upshur, Marion, Lamar , Wood, and Hopkins.

Fannin county while it is still predominately rural culturally still fits either into "North Texas" (Generally North Central TX) or a more limited Texoma.  Fannin County has the same longitudinal eastern border as Hunt County.

I agree it is in the northeastern quadrant of Texas, but so is Dallas and Fort Worth.   

Just a question. 

Let's build what we need as economically as possible.

Brian556


Bobby5280

Geometrically speaking there is no such thing as Northeast Texas. The state of Oklahoma is in that spot.
:)

Scott5114

Quote from: Bobby5280 on June 19, 2021, 01:37:29 AM
Geometrically speaking there is no such thing as Northeast Texas. The state of Oklahoma is in that spot.
:)

By that token, there's no Northeast West Virginia, either. Even saying it out loud sounds faintly ridiculous and made-up.
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bwana39

Quote from: armadillo speedbump on June 19, 2021, 06:24:07 PM
Good to see more reservoirs being built in northeast Texas.

While I am not taking any sides, this may have been my point. The folks in Fannin county seemingly welcomed the lake and are welcoming the next one, Ralph Hall Reservoir on the North Sulphur. The people in what I regard as northeast Texas are vehemently fighting against the proposed Marvin Nichols Reservoir.  I am not suggesting there was zero opposition to the NTMWD lake and the Hall Lake, but nothing like the opposition to the Nichols Lake.

I am posting a Google search instead of particular links, because the opposition is loud and spread out.  Personally, I can't decide if it is just a price for progress or a temporary fix for the people in Dallas Fort Worth and the end of a way of life in Red River, Titus, and Franklin counties.


https://www.google.com/search?q=marvin+nichols&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS945US945&oq=marvin+nichols&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3j0i131i433j0l5.6503j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Let's build what we need as economically as possible.



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