Interstate designation for the Fulbright Expressway in Fayetteville (AHTD)

[bugo]

Since the new flyover has been built at the junction of the Fulbright Expressway and US 71B (the junction of US 71B and...US 71B) and it is now a full interchange, why not apply for an interstate spur designation for the Fulbright?  It would make a dandy I-149.  It would clear things up, as currently the US 71B goes in all three directions from the interchange.  It has an interchange between I-54...er 49 and 71B.  As far as I know it's up to interstate standards.  Why not at least ask AASHTO?  They've basically become a rubber stamp organization so they would probably approve it.

[US71]

Since the new flyover has been built at the junction of the Fulbright Expressway and US 71B (the junction of US 71B and...US 71B) and it is now a full interchange, why not apply for an interstate spur designation for the Fulbright?  It would make a dandy I-149.  It would clear things up, as currently the US 71B goes in all three directions from the interchange.  It has an interchange between I-54...er 49 and 71B.  As far as I know it's up to interstate standards.  Why not at least ask AASHTO?  They've basically become a rubber stamp organization so they would probably approve it.

At one time, that section was 471 Spur (though not posted), so it would not surprise me if it's (unsigned) 71 Spur.  Maybe we could make it 49 Spur?

[bjrush]

Since the new flyover has been built at the junction of the Fulbright Expressway and US 71B (the junction of US 71B and...US 71B) and it is now a full interchange, why not apply for an interstate spur designation for the Fulbright?  It would make a dandy I-149.  It would clear things up, as currently the US 71B goes in all three directions from the interchange.  It has an interchange between I-54...er 49 and 71B.  As far as I know it's up to interstate standards.  Why not at least ask AASHTO?  They've basically become a rubber stamp organization so they would probably approve it.

I guess I don't see the benefit to designating it I-149, also there are really two sections that could get that designation. Which do you give it to?

I-49 Business would be interesting. But Arkansas doesn't seem big on Business Interstate designations for whatever reason.

Maybe they should just revert US 71B to US 71 since it disappears anyway

[english si]

also there are really two sections that could get that designation. Which do you give it to?

Presumably the northern one that isn't part of US71...

I was going to say that it would be good to use for making a US421 bypass of Springdale, but a look on OSM that's planned to go round the north side.

[Arkansastravelguy]

I don't see why it couldn't be I-149. It's listed as 71B on the AHTD county map. I agree with making 71B just 71 but I think AASHTO considers in a "downgrade" and wouldn't approve it. The southern part is actually US71


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[US71]

I don't see why it couldn't be I-149. It's listed as 71B on the AHTD county map. I agree with making 71B just 71 but I think AASHTO considers in a "downgrade" and wouldn't approve it. The southern part is actually US71


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Or make Alma to Bentonville 471 as was originally planned and send 71 up the expressway. Then bring back 471S.

[Arkansastravelguy]

I like 71 through the mountains the way it is, even for pure nostalgic reasons.


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[bugo]

Since the new flyover has been built at the junction of the Fulbright Expressway and US 71B (the junction of US 71B and...US 71B) and it is now a full interchange, why not apply for an interstate spur designation for the Fulbright?  It would make a dandy I-149.  It would clear things up, as currently the US 71B goes in all three directions from the interchange.  It has an interchange between I-54...er 49 and 71B.  As far as I know it's up to interstate standards.  Why not at least ask AASHTO?  They've basically become a rubber stamp organization so they would probably approve it.

At one time, that section was 471 Spur (though not posted), so it would not surprise me if it's (unsigned) 71 Spur.  Maybe we could make it 49 Spur?

It's US 71, section 17B which means it is US 71B.  Section 17B also runs north into Springdale from the College/Fulbright interchange.  Section 16B runs from US 71 at the south side of Fayetteville and ends at the College/Fulbright interchange.

[bjrush]

also there are really two sections that could get that designation. Which do you give it to?

Presumably the northern one that isn't part of US71...

I was going to say that it would be good to use for making a US421 bypass of Springdale, but a look on OSM that's planned to go round the north side.

Yeah US 412 bypass is basically going through southern Lowell

Actually who knows how many generations will go by before that bypass is built. It won't even do anything IMO

[Arkansastravelguy]

also there are really two sections that could get that designation. Which do you give it to?

Presumably the northern one that isn't part of US71...

I was going to say that it would be good to use for making a US421 bypass of Springdale, but a look on OSM that's planned to go round the north side.

Yeah US 412 bypass is basically going through southern Lowell

Actually who knows how many generations will go by before that bypass is built. It won't even do anything IMO

I'm hearing ADHD is going to start on 412 bypass at the end of this year from 49 to 112 but it's hearsay. I'm not sure if it's so they can start the airport spur or not.


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[bugo]

Not to be anal, but it's *AHTD*.

[bjrush]

also there are really two sections that could get that designation. Which do you give it to?

Presumably the northern one that isn't part of US71...

I was going to say that it would be good to use for making a US421 bypass of Springdale, but a look on OSM that's planned to go round the north side.

Yeah US 412 bypass is basically going through southern Lowell

Actually who knows how many generations will go by before that bypass is built. It won't even do anything IMO

I'm hearing ADHD is going to start on 412 bypass at the end of this year from 49 to 112 but it's hearsay. I'm not sure if it's so they can start the airport spur or not.


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I believe that is still the plan, with estimated completion in late 2018

[Arkansastravelguy]

Not to be anal, but it's *AHTD*.

Autocorrect


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[M86]

The Interstate designation wouldn't do much good, really... And the mis-signed exit isn't up to Interstate standards

When I was younger, and before I lived here, I thought the Fayetteville "Bypass" was constructed in order to complete a loop around Fayetteville... I was wrong.  Loved Rand McNally!

I remember reading a Reader's Digest article that listed US 71 as one of the most dangerous highways in America... Ahhh, my childhood!

I'm not sure what to do with the Fulbright, and that area.  The signs along the Fulbright are substandard. 

With the amount of traffic and the number of lanes, I don't know why they didn't do overhead structures, with the new "flyover".  Cheap, cheap, cheap.

[bugo]

The Interstate designation wouldn't do much good, really

It would clear up the confusion of the US 71B/US 71B interchange and it would give NWA another interstate route to brag about.

And the mis-signed exit isn't up to Interstate standards

How is it not up to interstate standards?  I've seen far worse.

I remember reading a Reader's Digest article that listed US 71 as one of the most dangerous highways in America... Ahhh, my childhood!

I remember reading that article.  It was infamous around western Arkansas at the time and got a lot of media attention.

[US71]

The Interstate designation wouldn't do much good, really... And the mis-signed exit isn't up to Interstate standards

When I was younger, and before I lived here, I thought the Fayetteville "Bypass" was constructed in order to complete a loop around Fayetteville... I was wrong.  Loved Rand McNally!

I remember reading a Reader's Digest article that listed US 71 as one of the most dangerous highways in America... Ahhh, my childhood!

I'm not sure what to do with the Fulbright, and that area.  The signs along the Fulbright are substandard. 

With the amount of traffic and the number of lanes, I don't know why they didn't do overhead structures, with the new "flyover".  Cheap, cheap, cheap.

Mis-signed Exit: you mean Gregg St (as opposed to Gregg Ave). It's been called Gregg St for as long as I remember (or Johnson Rd).

The "flyover" isn't perfect. It needs a dedicated lane just for using it. Instead it just forks off the left lane, while traffic backs up trying to get into the left lane.  It's better than nothing, I suppose, but I wish it had been built when the original 71 Bypass was built.

71 down the mountain can still be treacherous if you're not careful, but moving most of the truck traffic to the expressway, makes it less so.

[bjrush]

That's what you get when you let a global firm do a project in Fayetteville, AR

They give it to the intern so the real engineers can work on projects in Manhattan

[Arkansastravelguy]

I think I-149 would be beneficial. How do you get to the mall? Or better yet the hospital? Take 149. Car wreck on Fulbright? Where do you say you are? It's not signed at all. I don't think it's even signed Fulbright anywhere. Just "To 49". It needs to be named/numbered/signed something.


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[Avalanchez71]

US 71Y; problem solved.

[Molandfreak]

US 71Y; problem solved.

Why not U.S. 71F? For fullbright expressway.

[Scott5114]

What is this, Texas?

[Avalanchez71]

Pull a SC, use either CONN US 71 or BUS SPUR I-49.

[cjk374]

Pull a SC, use either CONN US 71 or BUS SPUR I-49.

What's CONN?  I haven't heard of that one.

[US71]

Pull a SC, use either CONN US 71 or BUS SPUR I-49.

CONN 71 would confuse people. 71Spur would work, or a new designation: a Business-Spur, so we'd have 71BS

[Avalanchez71]

Pull a SC, use either CONN US 71 or BUS SPUR I-49.

What's CONN?  I haven't heard of that one.

Connector.  It is used heavily for state routes in GA and it also used for US routes in SC.