I have noticed the Kappa Street Atlas of the San Joaquin Valley, left out this..

[ACSCmapcollector]

When I in Barnes and Nobles, in downtown San Luis Obispo...I have noticed that the Kappa Street Atlas of the San Joaquin Valley, has left out  A) the California state route 4 extension west of Stockton, CA now under construction and B) the Westside Parkway in West Bakersfield.  Made very cheaply too.

[Bickendan]

Is this what's replacing the Thomas Guide?

[ACSCmapcollector]

Is this what's replacing the Thomas Guide?

I don't think so.

[compdude787]

Do they still make Thomas Guides? I haven't seen them in any stores lately, and I would think that they're largely getting replaced by GPS navigation on your smartphone. Even I use the maps app on my smartphone, but I don't use the turn by turn directions. I just look at the map and figure out where I need to go.

[ACSCmapcollector]

Do they still make Thomas Guides? I haven't seen them in any stores lately, and I would think that they're largely getting replaced by GPS navigation on your smartphone. Even I use the maps app on my smartphone, but I don't use the turn by turn directions. I just look at the map and figure out where I need to go.

Only on the Internet, the Thomas Guides can be bought.


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[myosh_tino]

When I in Barnes and Nobles, in downtown San Luis Obispo...I have noticed that the Kappa Street Atlas of the San Joaquin Valley, has left out  A) the California state route 4 extension west of Stockton, CA now under construction and B) the Westside Parkway in West Bakersfield.  Made very cheaply too.

I don't think the extension being build west of the I-5/CA-4 interchange in Stockton is going to carry CA-4.  I believe CA-4 will continue to be routed along I-5 south to Charter Way.

As for the Westside Parkway, did the map omit the already construction portion?  If so, that's pretty bad IMO.

[ACSCmapcollector]

When I in Barnes and Nobles, in downtown San Luis Obispo...I have noticed that the Kappa Street Atlas of the San Joaquin Valley, has left out  A) the California state route 4 extension west of Stockton, CA now under construction and B) the Westside Parkway in West Bakersfield.  Made very cheaply too.

I don't think the extension being build west of the I-5/CA-4 interchange in Stockton is going to carry CA-4.  I believe CA-4 will continue to be routed along I-5 south to Charter Way.

As for the Westside Parkway, did the map omit the already construction portion?  If so, that's pretty bad IMO.

No just the California State Route 4 portion west of Stockton, CA but that has to be completed all the way to Charter Way, in the distant future.

[coatimundi]

When I in Barnes and Nobles, in downtown San Luis Obispo...I have noticed that the Kappa Street Atlas of the San Joaquin Valley, has left out  A) the California state route 4 extension west of Stockton, CA now under construction and B) the Westside Parkway in West Bakersfield.  Made very cheaply too.

I don't think the extension being build west of the I-5/CA-4 interchange in Stockton is going to carry CA-4.  I believe CA-4 will continue to be routed along I-5 south to Charter Way.

As for the Westside Parkway, did the map omit the already construction portion?  If so, that's pretty bad IMO.

Caltrans is doing the project, but it's being called a "ramp extension," which seems like it will not reroute SR 4. The way it dumps traffic onto the local streets, it doesn't seem like it would be a good idea anyway. It's more for trucks reaching the Port of Stockton than extending the highway.

The Westside Parkway has been open, for the most part, for about 2 years, so that would be a bit ridiculous. But I'm not curious enough to actually buy one of these maps to find out for sure.

Thomas is selling Kappa through their online store, so I would guess that there's some sort of merge there.

[myosh_tino]

When I in Barnes and Nobles, in downtown San Luis Obispo...I have noticed that the Kappa Street Atlas of the San Joaquin Valley, has left out  A) the California state route 4 extension west of Stockton, CA now under construction and B) the Westside Parkway in West Bakersfield.  Made very cheaply too.

I don't think the extension being build west of the I-5/CA-4 interchange in Stockton is going to carry CA-4.  I believe CA-4 will continue to be routed along I-5 south to Charter Way.

As for the Westside Parkway, did the map omit the already construction portion?  If so, that's pretty bad IMO.

No just the California State Route 4 portion west of Stockton, CA but that has to be completed all the way to Charter Way, in the distant future.

I seriously doubt that extension will *ever* be part of CA-4 and eventually reach Charter Way.  Like coatimundi said, it's primarily an access point for the Port of Stockton.  Nothing more.

[NE2]

I noticed that Merriam-Webster left out fartknocker.

[ACSCmapcollector]

When I in Barnes and Nobles, in downtown San Luis Obispo...I have noticed that the Kappa Street Atlas of the San Joaquin Valley, has left out  A) the California state route 4 extension west of Stockton, CA now under construction and B) the Westside Parkway in West Bakersfield.  Made very cheaply too.

I don't think the extension being build west of the I-5/CA-4 interchange in Stockton is going to carry CA-4.  I believe CA-4 will continue to be routed along I-5 south to Charter Way.

As for the Westside Parkway, did the map omit the already construction portion?  If so, that's pretty bad IMO.

No just the California State Route 4 portion west of Stockton, CA but that has to be completed all the way to Charter Way, in the distant future.

I seriously doubt that extension will *ever* be part of CA-4 and eventually reach Charter Way.  Like coatimundi said, it's primarily an access point for the Port of Stockton.  Nothing more.

Perhaps Caltrans will delete the rest of California state route 4 freeway, west of Stockton?

[coatimundi]

SR 4 isn't currently on the Crosstown Freeway west of I-5. It joins I-5 for one exit and goes to Charter Way.

[myosh_tino]

When I in Barnes and Nobles, in downtown San Luis Obispo...I have noticed that the Kappa Street Atlas of the San Joaquin Valley, has left out  A) the California state route 4 extension west of Stockton, CA now under construction and B) the Westside Parkway in West Bakersfield.  Made very cheaply too.

I don't think the extension being build west of the I-5/CA-4 interchange in Stockton is going to carry CA-4.  I believe CA-4 will continue to be routed along I-5 south to Charter Way.

As for the Westside Parkway, did the map omit the already construction portion?  If so, that's pretty bad IMO.

No just the California State Route 4 portion west of Stockton, CA but that has to be completed all the way to Charter Way, in the distant future.

I seriously doubt that extension will *ever* be part of CA-4 and eventually reach Charter Way.  Like coatimundi said, it's primarily an access point for the Port of Stockton.  Nothing more.

Perhaps Caltrans will delete the rest of California state route 4 freeway, west of Stockton?

It's hard to delete something that doesn't exist... 

[ACSCmapcollector]

When I in Barnes and Nobles, in downtown San Luis Obispo...I have noticed that the Kappa Street Atlas of the San Joaquin Valley, has left out  A) the California state route 4 extension west of Stockton, CA now under construction and B) the Westside Parkway in West Bakersfield.  Made very cheaply too.

I don't think the extension being build west of the I-5/CA-4 interchange in Stockton is going to carry CA-4.  I believe CA-4 will continue to be routed along I-5 south to Charter Way.

As for the Westside Parkway, did the map omit the already construction portion?  If so, that's pretty bad IMO.

No just the California State Route 4 portion west of Stockton, CA but that has to be completed all the way to Charter Way, in the distant future.

I seriously doubt that extension will *ever* be part of CA-4 and eventually reach Charter Way.  Like coatimundi said, it's primarily an access point for the Port of Stockton.  Nothing more.

Perhaps Caltrans will delete the rest of California state route 4 freeway, west of Stockton?

It's hard to delete something that doesn't exist... 

I meant the proposed routing on a map on paper of CA state route 4.

[jrouse]

It is still planned.  See page 6 and page 10 of the District 10 Transportation Concept Report for Route 4.
http://www.dot.ca.gov/dist10/divisions/Planning/advancedplanning/docs/TCR's/SR4TCRFinal.pdf


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[myosh_tino]

It is still planned.  See page 6 and page 10 of the District 10 Transportation Concept Report for Route 4.
http://www.dot.ca.gov/dist10/divisions/Planning/advancedplanning/docs/TCR's/SR4TCRFinal.pdf

Guess I was wrong.  Thanks!