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Title: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: Terry Shea on April 11, 2010, 10:55:37 AM
I traveled on this non-freeway portion of the highway last night, and I was amazed to see that they had raised the speed limit along this stretch from 55 to 65 MPH.  Did Michigan change the law regarding speed limits on non-freeways?  Have they/are they doing this with other highways?  I take it this is their "fix" solution in lieu of converting this stretch to a full freeway.  A much cheaper solution I must admit.
Title: Re: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: rawmustard on April 11, 2010, 12:08:54 PM
There was a study and review done over the last three years. (http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=20103280389) MDOT will still be acquiring property for an eventual freeway conversion, and as of yet I haven't seen anything indicating they'll raise the speed of other non-freeway segments. But this instance gives me hope that they might.
Title: Re: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: leifvanderwall on April 11, 2010, 06:19:47 PM
The divided highways down south such in Florida & Georgia are up to 60 or 65. I really hope the non-freeway portion between Ithaca & St Johns is turned to freeway very soon. Maybe a future interstate destination? Any predictions out there?
Title: Re: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: bulldog1979 on April 11, 2010, 07:35:40 PM
Quote from: leifvanderwall on April 11, 2010, 06:19:47 PM
The divided highways down south such in Florida & Georgia are up to 60 or 65. I really hope the non-freeway portion between Ithaca & St Johns is turned to freeway very soon. Maybe a future interstate destination? Any predictions out there?

*IF* it were to be redesignated as an Interstate, the number is already picked: I-73. Of course that depends on Ohio building their section, and either conversion of the US 223 corridor and the US 127 corridor south of Jackson, or duplexes on US 23 and I-94 to US 127. Either way, I peg that redesignation as unlikely for the time being.
Title: Re: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: Hellfighter on April 11, 2010, 09:47:48 PM
MDOT's raising speed limits across the state. M-59 between I-94 and M-53 is going up from 50 to 55 MPH
Title: Re: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: rawmustard on April 12, 2010, 03:46:42 PM
Quote from: Hellfighter on April 11, 2010, 09:47:48 PM
MDOT's raising speed limits across the state. M-59 between I-94 and M-53 is going up from 50 to 55 MPH

MDOT's even holding public fora tonight and tomorrow (http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2010/04/speeding_hot_spot_limit_to_be.html) for raising the limits on Westnedge and Park in Kalamazoo. Although I admit 40 is kinda wonky unless the city of Portage also raises its portion of Westnedge to that limit.
Title: Re: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: leifvanderwall on April 12, 2010, 05:22:07 PM
I think Westnedge needs more than a speed limit adjustment. I do agree with the 40 mph assessment. However, Westnedge needs to be repaved from Downtown K'zoo to I-94.
Title: Re: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: Hellfighter on April 12, 2010, 06:53:49 PM
I'm still waiting for them to raise the Lodge, I-75, and I-96 in the city of Detroit to 70 MPH
Title: Re: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: The Premier on April 12, 2010, 07:53:17 PM
Quote from: Hellfighter on April 12, 2010, 06:53:49 PM
I'm still waiting for them to raise the Lodge, I-75, and I-96 in the city of Detroit to 70 MPH

I don't see that happening. You'll be lucky if it goes up to 60 or even 65 mph.
Title: Re: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: InterstateNG on April 12, 2010, 09:46:18 PM
Chrysler Freeway is already posted at 70.
Title: Re: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: Hellfighter on April 13, 2010, 10:55:33 AM
Quote from: InterstateNG on April 12, 2010, 09:46:18 PM
Chrysler Freeway is already posted at 70.

Well, it is until E. Grand Blvd, and then it drops to 55.
Title: Re: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: leifvanderwall on April 13, 2010, 04:37:31 PM
I really disagree with the freeways in Detroit being 70 mph or even 60 mph. Especially in the middle of winter.
Title: Re: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: Hellfighter on April 13, 2010, 04:47:15 PM
Quote from: leifvanderwall on April 13, 2010, 04:37:31 PM
I really disagree with the freeways in Detroit being 70 mph or even 60 mph. Especially in the middle of winter.

Most of the drivers out there would disagree with you.
Title: Re: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: Brandon on April 13, 2010, 05:01:31 PM
Quote from: Hellfighter on April 13, 2010, 04:47:15 PM
Quote from: leifvanderwall on April 13, 2010, 04:37:31 PM
I really disagree with the freeways in Detroit being 70 mph or even 60 mph. Especially in the middle of winter.

Most of the drivers out there would disagree with you.

Agreed.  They ought to be 70mph IMHO.  Shoot most folks go faster than that already.
Now if only we could get IDiOT do to the same thing in Chicago...
Title: Re: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: Hellfighter on April 13, 2010, 05:46:36 PM
Just heard that MDOT is raising the speed limit on that section of M-14 around Barton Dr from 55 to 65.
Title: Speed limits are changing all over the mitt!
Post by: rawmustard on April 13, 2010, 07:37:27 PM
Quote from: Hellfighter on April 13, 2010, 05:46:36 PM
Just heard that MDOT is raising the speed limit on that section of M-14 around Barton Dr from 55 to 65.

Might as well post a link to the article (http://www.annarbor.com/news/speed-limit-raised-to-65-miles-per-hour-on-m-14-near-barton-drive/).
Title: Re: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: leifvanderwall on April 13, 2010, 09:35:39 PM
QuoteMost of the drivers out there would disagree with you.
Not unless there is a heavy amount of sleet, ice, and snow.
Title: Re: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: Hellfighter on April 13, 2010, 10:57:23 PM
Quote from: leifvanderwall on April 13, 2010, 09:35:39 PM
QuoteMost of the drivers out there would disagree with you.
Not unless there is a heavy amount of sleet, ice, and snow.

Then we get what they call a pileup!
Title: Re: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: wh15395 on April 14, 2010, 05:13:35 PM
Quote from: Brandon on April 13, 2010, 05:01:31 PM
Quote from: leifvanderwall on April 13, 2010, 04:37:31 PM
I really disagree with the freeways in Detroit being 70 mph or even 60 mph. Especially in the middle of winter.
Agreed.  They ought to be 70mph IMHO.  Shoot most folks go faster than that already.
Now if only we could get IDiOT do to the same thing in Chicago...
Same with Indianapolis. 55mph is ridiculous when everyone goes between 65 and 75
Title: Re: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: Tom on September 18, 2010, 07:56:17 AM
I first noticed the higher speed limit between St. Johns and Ithaca on September 4th while driving to the MSU/WSU football game.  When freeway driving, I set my cruise control to 100 k.p.h (about 62 m.p.h.) to save on gas, so now I don't have to reduce speed and reset the cruise on that part of US-127.  I have to admit, however, that the so-called energy "crisis" was kind of a blessing in disguise, because it did reduce the number of traffic accidents.  As far as raising Michigan's freeway speed limit back to 70 m.p.h., I am very skeptical about it.  I could see raising it to 60 or maybe even 65 m.p.h., but I think traffic accidents have increased at the 70 limit. :coffee:
Title: Re: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: Stephane Dumas on September 21, 2010, 05:12:42 PM
Quote from: Tom on September 18, 2010, 07:56:17 AM
I first noticed the higher speed limit between St. Johns and Ithaca on September 4th while driving to the MSU/WSU football game.  When freeway driving, I set my cruise control to 100 k.p.h (about 62 m.p.h.) to save on gas, so now I don't have to reduce speed and reset the cruise on that part of US-127.  I have to admit, however, that the so-called energy "crisis" was kind of a blessing in disguise, because it did reduce the number of traffic accidents.  As far as raising Michigan's freeway speed limit back to 70 m.p.h., I am very skeptical about it.  I could see raising it to 60 or maybe even 65 m.p.h., but I think traffic accidents have increased at the 70 limit. :coffee:

How about a compromist 70 mph during daytime and 60 mph for nighttime? Or 60 mph during the winter.
Title: Re: US-127 St Johns to Ithaca
Post by: rawmustard on September 21, 2010, 07:43:58 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on September 21, 2010, 05:12:42 PM
How about a compromist 70 mph during daytime and 60 mph for nighttime? Or 60 mph during the winter.

Except in Michigan it isn't necessary to set a separate winter or night maximum speed because of basic speed law.