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Started by ibthebigd, November 02, 2019, 09:00:55 PM

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ibthebigd

Will INDOT add anymore exits between Indianapolis and Louisville.

Columbus could use another exit trying to get from one side of town to I-65 thru downtown is a pain.

I saw the Widening of 65 between Columbus and Seymour is progressing nicely.

SM-G950U



silverback1065

don't think so.  only thing i know they are doing in that area is the 65 widening and an exit at SR46 and 11 west of downtown

tdindy88

I-65 from SR 46 north to SR 44 in Franklin could really use a widening though. Although I get that the entire highway should be six lanes from Louisville to Indianapolis I still don't get why US 50 to SR 58 (not even the main or busiest Columbus exit) got selected for widening. I'm just worried that in high traffic times there will be backups in two random locations when the six lanes go back down to four.

As for any additional exit for Columbus, I'm sure the Driftwood and White Rivers make it hard for another road to lead out from Columbus toward the interstate among other things.

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: tdindy88 on November 03, 2019, 02:03:16 AM
I-65 from SR 46 north to SR 44 in Franklin could really use a widening though. Although I get that the entire highway should be six lanes from Louisville to Indianapolis I still don't get why US 50 to SR 58 (not even the main or busiest Columbus exit) got selected for widening. I'm just worried that in high traffic times there will be backups in two random locations when the six lanes go back down to four.

As for any additional exit for Columbus, I'm sure the Driftwood and White Rivers make it hard for another road to lead out from Columbus toward the interstate among other things.

As someone who drives I-65 between Indy and Louisville quite a bit, I can tell you that the slowdowns aren't generally related to traffic volume, they come whenever trucks going 66 mph are passing trucks going 65 mph, and those happen everywhere.  Doing a section in the middle first actually helps more as to providing a way to get around the trucks than doing more at each end.  I do think the IN 44 to US 31 section will probably be the next one to get done, and IN 56 to Memphis will probably come after that, with the rest getting filled in later.

Also, there are parts north of Indy that badly need expanding, namely IN 38 to US 52.
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Great Lakes Roads

Quote from: cabiness42 on November 03, 2019, 08:51:29 AM
Quote from: tdindy88 on November 03, 2019, 02:03:16 AM
I-65 from SR 46 north to SR 44 in Franklin could really use a widening though. Although I get that the entire highway should be six lanes from Louisville to Indianapolis I still don't get why US 50 to SR 58 (not even the main or busiest Columbus exit) got selected for widening. I'm just worried that in high traffic times there will be backups in two random locations when the six lanes go back down to four.

As for any additional exit for Columbus, I'm sure the Driftwood and White Rivers make it hard for another road to lead out from Columbus toward the interstate among other things.

As someone who drives I-65 between Indy and Louisville quite a bit, I can tell you that the slowdowns aren't generally related to traffic volume, they come whenever trucks going 66 mph are passing trucks going 65 mph, and those happen everywhere.  Doing a section in the middle first actually helps more as to providing a way to get around the trucks than doing more at each end.  I do think the IN 44 to US 31 section will probably be the next one to get done, and IN 56 to Memphis will probably come after that, with the rest getting filled in later.

Also, there are parts north of Indy that badly need expanding, namely IN 38 to US 52.

Looking at the projects on INDOT's webpage, there will be an expansion from north of the Memphis exit to Scottsburg (12.4 miles, not scheduled to start until Q3 of 2023). Starting next year in Q4, though, expansion will start from SR 58 to SR 46 (4 miles) in Columbus.

The good news is that expansion north of Lebanon from north of SR 32 to north of SR 47 will also start in Q4 of 2020 (although only 5.7 miles long).

mvak36

Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on November 09, 2019, 05:19:12 AM
Looking at the projects on INDOT's webpage, there will be an expansion from north of the Memphis exit to Scottsburg (12.4 miles, not scheduled to start until Q3 of 2023). Starting next year in Q4, though, expansion will start from SR 58 to SR 46 (4 miles) in Columbus.

The good news is that expansion north of Lebanon from north of SR 32 to north of SR 47 will also start in Q4 of 2020 (although only 5.7 miles long).

From the Indiana Notes thread:
Quote from: cabiness42 on December 08, 2018, 08:32:29 AM
From bottom to top:

IN/KY line to Memphis (16 miles) - already 3+ lanes
Memphis to US 50 (34 miles) - 2 lanes with no action planned
US 50 to IN 58 (14 miles) - currently being widened to 3 lanes
IN 58 to IN 46 (4 miles) - planned for widening to 3 lanes
IN 46 to IN 44 (22 miles) - 2 lanes with no action planned
IN 44 to I-465 westside (33 miles) - already 3+ lanes
I-465 westside to I-865 (6 miles) - 2 lanes with no action planned
I-865 to IN 32 (11 miles) - already 3 lanes
IN 32 to IN 47 (6 miles) - planned for widening to 3 lanes
IN 47 to IN 38 (22 miles) - 2 lanes with no action planned
IN 38 to IN 25 (7 miles) - already 3 lanes
IN 25 to IN 2 (65 miles) - 2 lanes with no action planned
IN 2 to US 12/20 (22 miles) - already 3+ lanes

So by my count there are still 149 miles that have yet to had any planning begun for expansion.

With the addition of this Memphis to Scottsburg project, that should leave about 137 miles left to finish the widening in the state.
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Quote from: ibthebigd on November 02, 2019, 09:00:55 PM
Will INDOT add anymore exits between Indianapolis and Louisville.

Columbus could use another exit trying to get from one side of town to I-65 thru downtown is a pain.

I saw the Widening of 65 between Columbus and Seymour is progressing nicely.

SM-G950U
I thought there was a plan to add another exit around Franklin just north of IN-44.

tdindy88

The mayor of Franklin does want a second exit at Earlywood Drive north of the SR 44 interchange.

This article has more info on that: http://www.dailyjournal.net/2019/02/15/the_citys_momentum_is_building/

tdindy88

I thought I'd quickly give an update on this corridor. It appears that I-65 is now essentially six lanes from between SR 11 (Exit 55) and SR 58 (Exit 64) in Bartholomew and Jackson Counties. I drove this way the other day and it felt very weird having this modern six-lane freeway in this area. Northbound had three lanes open while southbound still had two, but it looked as if the third lane could open very soon. US 50 to SR 11 still looks like a work in progress, likely to be finished sometime next year.

Tom958

Does anyone here know what the deal is with the bridges carrying I-65 over Brownstown Road, at mile 21 or so? This rather horrifying Streetview from 2009 shows the beams supporting the I-65 deck being shored up with steel I-beams as though the concrete bents have been judged badly deficient structurally. It's both bridges, not just one,  and the 2018 view shows that the bridges were subsequently removed and replaced in their entirety.

The really weird thing about this is that there are many bridges of this same design on the first 50 miles or so of I-65, both carrying and crossing over the Interstate. Many of them have had their superstructures removed and replaced, but retain the original bents, as though they're ready for another fifty years' service. Not at Brownstown Road, though.

:hmmm: :hmmm: :hmmm:


ibthebigd

Quote from: silverback1065 on November 03, 2019, 01:05:33 AM
don't think so.  only thing i know they are doing in that area is the 65 widening and an exit at SR46 and 11 west of downtown
Milestone has been posting pictures looks like its progressing nicely

SM-G950U


roadman65

https://goo.gl/maps/58WKB13GRqJB1WGf7
I see INDOT finally decided to add control cities here ( and nearby I-70) for the Indy Beltway.
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NWI_Irish96

Quote from: roadman65 on May 26, 2022, 08:03:24 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/58WKB13GRqJB1WGf7
I see INDOT finally decided to add control cities here ( and nearby I-70) for the Indy Beltway.

They've been there since 2015.
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silverback1065

ya the whole south side is like that now from 70 to emerson. i like how it's separated too so you know 74 takes you to those cities and not 465. smart signs  :clap:

roadman65

Quote from: silverback1065 on May 26, 2022, 08:22:05 AM
ya the whole south side is like that now from 70 to emerson. i like how it's separated too so you know 74 takes you to those cities and not 465. smart signs  :clap:


Well Exit 129 guides are new as 2019 images show the old I-895 to I-465 EAST sign while new APL feature US 52 EAST co-signed with I-895.  No control cities though, but ones that have been added sometime recently.
https://goo.gl/maps/KcwKuBMeiYtL6PdDA 2021
https://goo.gl/maps/h4mMBde7nwqnZtSm9 2019
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silverback1065

Quote from: roadman65 on May 26, 2022, 08:31:18 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on May 26, 2022, 08:22:05 AM
ya the whole south side is like that now from 70 to emerson. i like how it's separated too so you know 74 takes you to those cities and not 465. smart signs  :clap:


Well Exit 129 guides are new as 2019 images show the old I-895 to I-465 EAST sign while new APL feature US 52 EAST co-signed with I-895.  No control cities though, but ones that have been added sometime recently.
https://goo.gl/maps/KcwKuBMeiYtL6PdDA 2021
https://goo.gl/maps/h4mMBde7nwqnZtSm9 2019

o those are brand new! all that construction in that area that started i think 2 yrs ago replaced those. all the signs are new there. there is going to be a new exit on 65 in between 267 and whitestown parkway. you can see the new ramps! somehow ronald reagan parkway is going to tie into there. no idea how or exactly where though.

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: roadman65 on May 26, 2022, 08:31:18 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on May 26, 2022, 08:22:05 AM
ya the whole south side is like that now from 70 to emerson. i like how it's separated too so you know 74 takes you to those cities and not 465. smart signs  :clap:


Well Exit 129 guides are new as 2019 images show the old I-895 to I-465 EAST sign while new APL feature US 52 EAST co-signed with I-895.  No control cities though, but ones that have been added sometime recently.
https://goo.gl/maps/KcwKuBMeiYtL6PdDA 2021
https://goo.gl/maps/h4mMBde7nwqnZtSm9 2019

Control cities are only used along the parts of 465 where 74 is concurrent. 74 has control cities, 465 does not.
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roadman65

Quote from: cabiness42 on May 26, 2022, 08:43:00 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 26, 2022, 08:31:18 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on May 26, 2022, 08:22:05 AM
ya the whole south side is like that now from 70 to emerson. i like how it's separated too so you know 74 takes you to those cities and not 465. smart signs  :clap:


Well Exit 129 guides are new as 2019 images show the old I-895 to I-465 EAST sign while new APL feature US 52 EAST co-signed with I-895.  No control cities though, but ones that have been added sometime recently.
https://goo.gl/maps/KcwKuBMeiYtL6PdDA 2021
https://goo.gl/maps/h4mMBde7nwqnZtSm9 2019

Control cities are only used along the parts of 465 where 74 is concurrent. 74 has control cities, 465 does not.


And whenI-69 is added to the mix, that Route will be controlled as well. At the east end junction with I-70 it will be Fort Wayne and Evansville. Where I-65 south will be Evansville/ Peoria and Cincinnati/ Fort Wayne.
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74/171FAN

https://www.localnewsdigital.com/2022/05/29/indot-updates-progress-on-i-65i-70-north-split-project/

So I guess I-65 is not reopening in June as previously thought?  (If this post can be moved to a better location, please do so.)
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NWI_Irish96

Quote from: 74/171FAN on May 31, 2022, 06:26:07 AM
https://www.localnewsdigital.com/2022/05/29/indot-updates-progress-on-i-65i-70-north-split-project/

So I guess I-65 is not reopening in June as previously thought?  (If this post can be moved to a better location, please do so.)

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7946.msg2604390#msg2604390

There is an Indiana Notes thread on the Great Lakes board and the closure was discussed there. The original estimate was 1.5 years, so it was never expected to open before November.
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silverback1065

Quote from: 74/171FAN on May 31, 2022, 06:26:07 AM
https://www.localnewsdigital.com/2022/05/29/indot-updates-progress-on-i-65i-70-north-split-project/

So I guess I-65 is not reopening in June as previously thought?  (If this post can be moved to a better location, please do so.)

it was never supposed to open in june. it was always supposed to be done by thanksgiving 2022.

74/171FAN

Thank you.  It looks like I got June 2022 from the wording in this article.

QuoteDuring this closure, expected to last until June 2022, I-65 and I-70 between the North Split and Washington Street will be fully closed to all traffic.

I thought it might be in the Indiana Notes thread, but I did not search well enough (though the topic is probably better covered here moving forward anyway).
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NWI_Irish96

Quote from: 74/171FAN on May 31, 2022, 10:14:25 AM
Thank you.  It looks like I got June 2022 from the wording in this article.

QuoteDuring this closure, expected to last until June 2022, I-65 and I-70 between the North Split and Washington Street will be fully closed to all traffic.

I thought it might be in the Indiana Notes thread, but I did not search well enough (though the topic is probably better covered here moving forward anyway).

Not sure why IndyStar said that, INDOT had always said the closure would be 18 months.
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silverback1065

honestly if they get this mostly done by thanksgiving that would be amazing. 50+ bridges in only 2 yrs. talk about fast!

NWI_Irish96

#24
Listing the current status of I-65 in Indiana. Mile markers listed correspond to exits. Actual project areas may vary by a mile or two:

Miles 0-16: 3+ lanes in each direction. There is currently some work going on that does not involve adding travel lanes.

Miles 16-29: 2 lanes in each direction, with plans to add a lane in each direction starting summer 2023. https://www.in.gov/indot/files/Legal-Notice-Des-1700135-I-65-ATL.pdf

Miles 29-50: 2 lanes in each direction, with no current plans for expansion.

Miles 50-64: 3 lanes in each direction.

Miles 64-68: In the process of adding a 3rd lane in each direction.

Miles 68-90: 2 lanes in each direction, with no current plans for expansion.

Miles 90-123: 3+ lanes in each direction. 65/70 north split project in progress.

Miles 123-129: 2 lanes in each direction, with no current plans for expansion.

Miles 129-140: 3 lanes in each direction. There is currently some work going that does not involve adding travel lanes.

Miles 140-146: In the process of adding a 3rd lane in each direction.

Miles 146-168: 2 lanes in each direction, with no current plans for expansion.

Miles 168-175: 3 lanes in each direction.

Miles 175-178: In the process of adding a 3rd lane in each direction.

Miles 178-240: 2 lanes in each direction, with no current plans for expansion.

Miles 240-262: 3 lanes in each direction. There is currently some work going that does not involve adding travel lanes.

Summary:
Currently 3+ lanes: 103 miles
In process of adding 3rd lane: 13 miles
Plans to add a 3rd lane: 13 miles

No current plans to add a 3rd lane: 133 miles

Analysis: When the current and planned projects are complete, I-65 in Indiana will be at 49% with 3+ lanes. I'd really love to see the next expansion occur between 201-215 or thereabouts. Breaks up the longest 2 lane stretch right in the middle.
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