Francis Scott Key Bridge (I-695) complete collapse after large ship hits it

[Henry]

Until there is something formal announced about a name change for a replacement bridge, let's move on from that speculation, Francis Scott Key's legacy, and also philosophical concepts involving demographics.

Half an hour later....

Rename it to the George Herman Ruth Bridge.

The Babe was born in Baltimore.

Not sure whether that warrants a  or a  .

More like a

But as Alex said, there's no word on when the new bridge will have a different name, so let's just assume that it'll also be called the Key Bridge. After all, President Biden did say they were going to rebuild it, so there we have it.

[WillWeaverRVA]

All the GSV imagery from the bridge has been removed. The previous workaround of dragging the stick man to where the bridge used to be no longer works, and you can no longer advance onto the bridge from within GSV itself.

[Max Rockatansky]

Not sure what the point of removing the images is?  The bridge did in fact exist and the right of way seemingly will be reused.

[kalvado]

Not sure what the point of removing the images is?  The bridge did in fact exist and the right of way seemingly will be reused.

Not sure what the point of keeping the images would be?  The bridge no longer exist and images have no value except for historic and nostalgia - hence useless for most maps users. .

[roadman65]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ey7BkiFK7tCazopP8
It still works for me.

[Max Rockatansky]

Not sure what the point of removing the images is?  The bridge did in fact exist and the right of way seemingly will be reused.

Not sure what the point of keeping the images would be?  The bridge no longer exist and images have no value except for historic and nostalgia - hence useless for most maps users. .

And how is that ultimately different than like images of the countless number of bridges that have been replaced since GSV started?  I was just using old GSV images the other day to look at components of a bridge which was razed in 2014.  Given I was writing an article about said crossing it certainly had value to me.

[WillWeaverRVA]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ey7BkiFK7tCazopP8
It still works for me.

If you try to advance to the point where the road ends on the map, it won't let you go further.

[Scott5114]

But as Alex said, there's no word on when the new bridge will have a different name, so let's just assume that it'll also be called the Key Bridge.

It would be funny if they named it after John Locke.

[ixnay]

But as Alex said, there's no word on when the new bridge will have a different name, so let's just assume that it'll also be called the Key Bridge.

It would be funny if they named it after John Locke.

Why?

[Rothman]

But as Alex said, there's no word on when the new bridge will have a different name, so let's just assume that it'll also be called the Key Bridge.

It would be funny if they named it after John Locke.

Why?

It's not that funny, but think about it.

[LilianaUwU]

If we're gonna go for an uncontroversial name, might as well go for a fictional character.

[kalvado]

If we're gonna go for an uncontroversial name, might as well go for a fictional character.

Some of us still miss Triborogh and Tappan Zee bridges....

[LilianaUwU]

If we're gonna go for an uncontroversial name, might as well go for a fictional character.

Some of us still miss Triborogh and Tappan Zee bridges....

They're still the Triborough and Tappan Zee Bridges. No amount of trying to officially name the bridges after politicians will change that.

[J N Winkler]

I think there is a slender possibility that MdTA will want a new name for the Key Bridge replacement just so that the two-letter facility abbreviation, which typically appears in contract numbers, does not match that of a structure that no longer exists.  This would be comparable to how the Thruway Authority (which acronymizes not just major structures but also geographic divisions through which the mainline Thruway passes) uses "GMMCB" to reference the current Tappan Zee crossing.

[vdeane]

If we're gonna go for an uncontroversial name, might as well go for a fictional character.

The Avatar Kyoshi Memorial Skyway?  Although I like the design of Kyoshi Bridge in Republic City better than the cable-stayed mania the US is currently under.

[Road Hog]

The Edgar Allen Poe Bridge.

Murder out the trusses.

[Big John]

The Edgar Allen Poe Bridge.

Murder out the trusses.

Trusses cause an unkindness.

(Ravens are not crows)

[WillWeaverRVA]

The Edgar Allen Poe Bridge.

Murder out the trusses.

Just make sure Montresor isn't involved in building the bridge piers, he might lure in an unsuspecting worker with a cask of Amontillado.

[1995hoo]

But as Alex said, there's no word on when the new bridge will have a different name, so let's just assume that it'll also be called the Key Bridge.

It would be funny if they named it after John Locke.

"Locke" and "Key" made me think of a certain Madonna video from the mid-1980s, so now I have this utterly absurd thought of the "Open Your Heart Bridge."

[roadman65]

Name it the Sinnead O' Connor Bridge, as she protested against it at the PNC Arts Center in Holmdel, NJ as that venue treats rock concerts like the MBL treats the ball games. You have to stand up and listen to the Anthem played while standing up looking at the flag under the spotlight.

She refused upright to have it done during her concert and sparks flew then.


Or name it the Norman Lear Bridge for first introducing the controversy of the hymn in one of his All In The Family episodes. He had his writers come up with dialogue for Archie and Meathead to argue the song and write lines for the Meathead to oppose the song.

[The Ghostbuster]

How about we rename it the "let's get back to talking about the Francis Scott Key Bridge (I-695) complete collapse after large ship hits it and save any bridge renaming talk for Fictional Highways." The bridge is not going to be renamed, and I personally have had enough with the renaming talk (I'm probably not the only one).

[Max Rockatansky]

I'll gladly take pondering over new names versus some of the nut job conspiracy theories I've seen related to the collapse.

[jeffandnicole]

How about we rename it the "let's get back to talking about the Francis Scott Key Bridge (I-695) complete collapse after large ship hits it and save any bridge renaming talk for Fictional Highways." The bridge is not going to be renamed, and I personally have had enough with the renaming talk (I'm probably not the only one).

Why won't it?  And at this point, what should we talk about in this thread?

[jmacswimmer]

The latest update from the Unified Command last Thursday was the opening of a temporary channel 35 feet in depth, primarily to allow ships trapped at the port since the collapse to finally depart. Based on the wording of the release, it sounds like the channel is already closed off again as of today in preparation for the big upcoming task of lifting the truss off the bow of the Dali and then finally refloating the Dali.

https://www.keybridgeresponse2024.com/post/update-15-unified-command-opens-limited-access-deep-draft-channel

The other big announcement from last week is an upcoming virtual forum on May 7th for the upcoming rebuild, which has its own website now: https://keybridgerebuild.com/. The biggest initial takeaways I'm seeing are that the Request for Proposals is expected to be released by the end of May, and the chosen delivery method is progressive design-build (I admittedly need to do some research on the difference between progressive design-build and regular design-build, but presumably it'll allow things to go even faster than regular design-build).

[wdcrft63]

I found this source for comparing PDB vs. regular DB:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0361198118822315

In a regular DB project, a DOT knows clearly what it wants to build, say a bypass. PDB is appropriate if you're not sure exactly what you want to build and you need a contractor who can help first with the concept phase and then progress to the design phase and finally to the construction phase.