For example, "Wow, the forum was rather slow and boring while I was away :bigass:"
This is a legitimate question - I could not find anything explicitly mentioned in the rules.
Also, did I miss something interesting, about "Maine Highway Fridays" :confused:
[webny99 sits back and waits for the explosion]
Topics about the forum itself go in Suggestions and Questions. They are usually suggestions and/or questions, hence the board title.
However, "Wow, the forum was rather slow and boring while I was away :bigass:" (ignoring that emoticons can't be used in thread titles) doesn't contribute to anything; anyone agreeing with you probably wouldn't have much to say, while anyone disagreeing with you could start a heated debate.
Maine Highway Fridays?
I must have missed that too.
It was something Marf tried in the Fictional forum.
Quote from: hbelkins on December 21, 2017, 10:11:33 PM
Maine Highway Fridays?
I must have missed that too.
I remember it, because he missed a week and I jokingly asked what happened the week earlier, leading him to get kind of defensive about it.
From what I know, politics and religion are banned. I tend to avoid the former and I don't bother about the latter.
There's a lot of questions about the forums. Different subtopics, rearranging regions, etc. They are certainly welcomed...even if people don't agree with them.
But this isn't a personal blog. You can write on your blog "I was away for a week and nothing happened". On a public forum where lots happened but maybe not in topics that you care about, it's a bit rude to act is if you're the life of the party.
Yeah, that was a stupid idea. Also, was it this thread? https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=19282.0 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=19282.0)
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 23, 2017, 11:27:49 AM
There's a lot of questions about the forums. Different subtopics, rearranging regions, etc. They are certainly welcomed...even if people don't agree with them.
But this isn't a personal blog. You can write on your blog "I was away for a week and nothing happened". On a public forum where lots happened but maybe not in topics that you care about, it's a bit rude to act is if you're the life of the party.
I'd be interested in your definition of "lots". Feel free to parse through the statistics (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=stats). I don't think I'm the life of the party, but I did provide us with our first 500-post day, and have started a host of interesting topics. I'm sorry if you interpreted it as rudeness. ":bigass:" is basically a synonym for [humor] around here, as I presume you knew. However, I was always taught to choose my battles wisely, so I will not argue further about my contributions. I think they speak for themselves.
I should note that my original question was a bit ill-worded. I know suggestions and questions are allowed, but am unsure whether topics about the forum that are not suggestions or questions are allowed.
For example, if I started a thread to discuss trends in forum activity (which I will not do), would that be allowed?
Webny, this forum is not that popular. That being said the mods do not have an active presence here. Just try to keep this stuff in this board. And no, you are not the life of the party unless you call deleted posts interesting.
Quote from: Marf on December 23, 2017, 04:58:00 PM
Webny, this forum is not that popular. That being said the mods do not have an active presence here. Just try to keep this stuff in this board. And no, you are not the life of the party unless you call deleted posts interesting.
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 04:44:11 PM
I don't think I'm the life of the party
And yes, the mods do have an active presence no matter how you define it.
Also, why did you delete a bunch of posts? At this point you sound like you are trolling us. And no, all the mods do is lock threads and move them places (and to the wrong places often).
Quote from: Marf on December 23, 2017, 05:45:18 PM
Also, why did you delete a bunch of posts? At this point you sound like you are trolling us. And no, all the mods do is lock threads and move them places (and to the wrong places often).
The mods contribute quite often, just like the rest of us. Not everything they do is a moderator action.
Quote from: Marf on December 23, 2017, 05:45:18 PM
Also, why did you delete a bunch of posts?
No matter how I answer that, it will spark controversy, so I'm not going to answer it at all. I have a lot of history here, considering I only joined in May. If others want to give you their take on why I deleted 380 posts, they may do so at their leisure.
Quote from: 1 on December 23, 2017, 05:46:54 PM
Not everything they do is a moderator action.
It seems to me it is, unless trolls are controlling their accounts :bigass:
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 04:44:11 PMI did provide us with our first 500-post day
And why, pray tell, is that anything to be proud of or to brag about? Bragging about post count, to me, is like bragging about penis size. If you have to brag about it, it's probably not anything worth bragging about. Personally, I could care less if we have 5 or 500 posts on any given day. I don't read probably two-thirds or more of the posts here. I pick what interests me; nothing more, nothing less.
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 09:17:34 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 23, 2017, 09:09:35 PM
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 04:44:11 PMI did provide us with our first 500-post day
And why, pray tell, is that anything to be proud of or to brag about? Bragging about post count, to me, is like bragging about penis size. If you have to brag about it, it's probably not anything worth bragging about. Personally, I could care less if we have 5 or 500 posts on any given day. I don't read probably two-thirds or more of the posts here. I pick what interests me; nothing more, nothing less.
1 That was not bragging. It's a fact!
2 No one else has ever led us to 500 posts. Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that no one else is capable of doing so. That speaks for itself.
Whaaat? I smell a
rat troll.
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 09:17:34 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 23, 2017, 09:09:35 PM
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 04:44:11 PMI did provide us with our first 500-post day
And why, pray tell, is that anything to be proud of or to brag about? Bragging about post count, to me, is like bragging about penis size. If you have to brag about it, it's probably not anything worth bragging about. Personally, I could care less if we have 5 or 500 posts on any given day. I don't read probably two-thirds or more of the posts here. I pick what interests me; nothing more, nothing less.
1 That was not bragging. It's a fact!
2 No one else has ever led us to 500 posts. Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that no one else is capable of doing so. That speaks for itself.
Your second point sounds like bragging to me. Also, I think anyone could lead to 500 posts a day if they chose to start numerous threads, but what are the odds of all of them being worthwhile topics?
TBH, I didn't mind the 500 posts a day thread, but I am annoyed that you started deleting most of your posts after reaching a 444 post count. You even replaced some of your OP's with messages like these:
Quote from: webny99 on October 23, 2017, 10:09:57 PM
Topic 51 of 63 created by this user - Rush Hour Trends
This post was deemed obsolete at the user's discretion on November 9th, 2017, and is no longer available.
What was the point of this? It didn't do anything to your post count, and now people reading these threads for the first time only have the title to work with.*
* In the quoted example, the next post happened to quote the OP, but that often isn't the case.
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 09:17:34 PM
1 That was not bragging. It's a fact!
"I just won the lottery! That's not bragging, because it's true!"
Facts can be stated in such a way that they are not bragging. Bragging is defined as excessively proud or boastful talk. My above sentence was neither. It was not even a complex sentence, it was a bare-bones fact.
In any case, in the light of the OP, it would be utter folly to say anything else in my defense, so I will not.
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 09:17:34 PM
1 That was not bragging. It's a fact!
2 No one else has ever led us to 500 posts. Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that no one else is capable of doing so. That speaks for itself.
1. It sounds like you're proud of it, so yes, it's bragging.
2. Nobody else gives a crap.
Also, your habit of constantly deleting posts wreaks havoc on the ability to view threads and converse around the forum. Heck, I had to dig up this quote from someone else's post!
Banned topics (in no particular order):
Bragging (a brief announcement if you have accomplished something relevant to roads doesn't hurt as long as you don't start telling people how wonderful you are for accomplishing this. If you won the lottery, congrats. But it's not relevant to the forum so keep it to yourself.)
Personal Attacks on other members
Politics
Resurrecting dormant discussions/ locked discussions
Asking the same questions repeatedly even if they have already been answered
Making inane posts simply to boost your forum ranking.
Writing "what did I miss" is discouraged (note the links at the top for "New replies to your Posts" and "Unread posts since your past visit")
Writing "I was sick for two days, did anyone miss me" is also highly discouraged.
I am on here quite often, but not everything I post is a "moderator action" as webny99 would suggest.
But if you want a "Moderator action", that can be arranged. :pan:
Thank you and good night.
Quote from: US71 on December 24, 2017, 12:46:35 AM
I am on here quite often, but not everything I post is a "moderator action" as webny99 would suggest.
But if you want a "Moderator action", that can be arranged. :pan:
Or Admin action. :P :-D
And same with me. I'm more of a background type of Admin making sure everything is working with the forums. So, if you're seeing me posting in purple, you better take it to heart as you messed up bad to get me posting in that.
Keep in mind, we're talking about the guy that, at one time, had two accounts (because his two personalities needed separation? :crazy:) Also, deleting a ton of posts is weak. If you can't stand by your own words, just don't post, period.
Quote from: US71 on December 24, 2017, 12:46:35 AM
Banned topics (in no particular order):
...
Resurrecting dormant discussions/ locked discussions
...
I didn't think resurrecting a years-old thread was outright banned. In fact, it was even encouraged if the alternative was starting a new thread with the exact same topic.
Quote from: 1 on December 24, 2017, 07:53:54 AM
Quote from: US71 on December 24, 2017, 12:46:35 AM
Banned topics (in no particular order):
...
Resurrecting dormant discussions/ locked discussions
...
I didn't think resurrecting a years-old thread was outright banned. In fact, it was even encouraged if the alternative was starting a new thread with the exact same topic.
It's not a problem if adding useful info to it, especially when some road projects go dormant for awhile. However, reviving a 9 year old topic just to be able to say you did it in a different thread, is something totally different, and a big no-no.
Wait, is this about his thread about rezzing threads?
Whenever I've reopened old threads, I usually preface it letting others know I'm doing so.
Personally, the unnecessary deleting of one's upthread posts should be cause for suspension. Adds nothing; confuses many.
Wait, some of you think that the only thing the staff do here is moderate? :crazy:
Scott5114 started the "road sign city name photo game" thread (one of the most successful game threads to date), US71 posts contributions to the "Daily Picture Challenge!" thread all the time, US71 is always contributing new and interesting road-related news in the Mid-South board, there have been numerous state threads started by admins/moderators in the Southeast board (albeit they were started towards the beginning of this forum), and the staff on this forum just in general post all the time just in normal road-related conversation and discussion like the rest of us, and they do so very often.
Quote from: adventurernumber1 on December 24, 2017, 02:34:09 PM
Wait, some of you think that the only thing the staff do here is moderate? :crazy:
Scott5114 started the best parts of the "Alanland” thread (one of the most successful threads to date)
Fixed.
No one cares if someone led us to 500 posts in one day. It's irrelevant. It has no bearing on anything whatsoever.
Quote from: adventurernumber1 on December 24, 2017, 02:34:09 PM
Wait, some of you think that the only thing the staff do here is moderate? :crazy:
Youngsters these days just have no respect for their elders ;)
Quote from: Takumi on December 24, 2017, 03:09:30 PM
Quote from: adventurernumber1 on December 24, 2017, 02:34:09 PM
Wait, some of you think that the only thing the staff do here is moderate? :crazy:
Scott5114 started the best parts of the "Alanland" thread (one of the most successful threads to date)
Fixed.
I think I post ridiculous shit more often than I moderate.
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 23, 2017, 05:46:54 PM
Not everything they do is a moderator action.
It seems to me it is, unless trolls are controlling their accounts
Quote from: adventurernumber1 on December 24, 2017, 02:34:09 PM
Wait, some of you think that the only thing the staff do here is moderate? :crazy:
Yeah, that might have been the second-most uninformed post I've ever read on this site, with the sole exception being the Alanland OP. As tough of an environment as this forum can get to be sometimes, I have the utmost respect for the moderators and administrators of the site, and I have never once gotten the impression they were just a bunch of jail masters. In fact, they do so much apart from mod/admin activity that I frequently forget who's a mod and who's not. I've only been to one meet, but I honestly couldn't even tell you if there was a mod with me or not; that's partly because I'm bad at names, but it's also because I honestly didn't care. The mods and admins on this site are "just one of the guys" who happen to have made a commitment to make this thing run well.
A user only having been on the site for a few months can get a skewed view of things, perhaps. Maybe the mods weren't as active as they had been recently, maybe they were only contributing in other threads, maybe there was a whole bunch of crap going on that needed moderator action. Whatever. I can't imagine being a new-ish member of any forum and presuming to cast judgment upon the moderators; that strikes me as an immature action, done by one who has a bit to learn about humility and respect, done by one who thinks everything is about him.
Now. Having said all of that, I should also point out that the quoted comment
could have been made with tongue in cheek. I did, after all, snip out the 'bigass' smiley. Plus, an action done by a moderator is by definition a moderator action. I could be making a mountain out of a molehill. But, be that as it may, I stand by my words and I won't delete this post.
/me offers all the moderators and administrators a virtual beer in appreciation of their work. Merry Christmas and thank you, guys! :cheers:
Could we please get back to the topic of webny's weirdness?
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 11:21:04 AM
Could we please get back to the topic of webny's weirdness?
Why? That's giving him the attention he craves.
Well, it might gall somebody to ban him.
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 11:46:57 AM
Well, it might gall somebody to ban him.
Really? Who?
How about you do it.
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 11:21:04 AM
Could we please get back to the topic of webny's weirdness?
No. And that's galling to bring up as well.
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 23, 2017, 05:46:54 PM
Not everything they do is a moderator action.
It seems to me it is, unless trolls are controlling their accounts
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 10:46:59 AM
Now. Having said all of that, I should also point out that the quoted comment could have been made with tongue in cheek. I did, after all, snip out the 'bigass' smiley. Plus, an action done by a moderator is by definition a moderator action. I could be making a mountain out of a molehill. But, be that as it may, I stand by my words and I won't delete this post.
I had committed not to post again in this thread. But, out of fairness and respect and justice, I will confirm your last paragraph, in particular the bolded statement. I thought that would have been obvious, but I would never use that smiley unless I intended my post as humor. Nor would I disrespect the moderators without a
really good reason.
Happy holidays all and thanks for keeping me entertained. So far I have a 5-0 record for getting the reaction I wanted out of threads like this :bigass:
Quote from: webny99 on December 26, 2017, 12:41:19 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 10:46:59 AM
Now. Having said all of that, I should also point out that the quoted comment could have been made with tongue in cheek. I did, after all, snip out the 'bigass' smiley. Plus, an action done by a moderator is by definition a moderator action. I could be making a mountain out of a molehill. But, be that as it may, I stand by my words and I won't delete this post.
I had committed not to post again in this thread. But, out of fairness and respect and justice, I will confirm your last paragraph, in particular the bolded statement. I thought that would have been obvious, but I would never use that smiley unless I intended my post as humor. Nor would I disrespect the moderators without a really good reason.
Happy holidays all and thanks for keeping me entertained. So far I have a 5-0 record for getting the reaction I wanted out of threads like this :bigass:
So you're confirming you're a troll? GTFO.
I don't intend to get banned. I'm not that foolish. If I was that foolish, I would have kept both of my accounts. Plus, why would I invite the mods to ban me? I am a true roadgeek and I think I've provided more than sufficient evidence of that.
(And, re: comments upthread - the reason I had two accounts was not to troll, but rather, so that I could use a different username. I know now that it is possible to PM a moderator to change it, but did not know that at the time.)
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So you're confirming you're a troll? GTFO.
Not at all. Rather, you are confirming that you haven't read the OP. I explicitly stated that I expected a good reaction, and that I got.
Quote from: webny99 on December 26, 2017, 12:41:19 PM
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 23, 2017, 05:46:54 PM
Not everything they do is a moderator action.
It seems to me it is, unless trolls are controlling their accounts
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 10:46:59 AM
Now. Having said all of that, I should also point out that the quoted comment could have been made with tongue in cheek. I did, after all, snip out the 'bigass' smiley. Plus, an action done by a moderator is by definition a moderator action. I could be making a mountain out of a molehill. But, be that as it may, I stand by my words and I won't delete this post.
I had committed not to post again in this thread. But, out of fairness and respect and justice, I will confirm your last paragraph, in particular the bolded statement. I thought that would have been obvious, but I would never use that smiley unless I intended my post as humor. Nor would I disrespect the moderators without a really good reason.
Happy holidays all and thanks for keeping me entertained. So far I have a 5-0 record for getting the reaction I wanted out of threads like this :bigass:
I'm glad you're keeping your humor about you. Things tend to get misread on here (as on all forums), so rolling with the punches is important.
Quote from: webny99 on December 26, 2017, 12:41:19 PM
Happy holidays all and thanks for keeping me entertained. So far I have a 5-0 record for getting the reaction I wanted out of threads like this :bigass:
Quote from: webny99 on December 26, 2017, 12:47:00 PM
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So you're confirming you're a troll? GTFO.
Not at all. Rather, you are confirming that you haven't read the OP. I explicitly stated that I expected a good reaction, and that I got.
According to Wikipedia, a troll is:
Quote from: Wikipedia
a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting quarrels or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion, often for the troll's amusement.
Although you aren't really "sowing discord" , you're pushing the members of this forum around to see if you can get a reaction out of them, for your own amusement.
Okay, can we get a ban now? :banghead:
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 02:07:00 PM
Okay, can we get a ban now? :banghead:
You want to be banned? :hmmm: :hmmm:
:bigass: (I meant webny, if you were not sarcastic)
Quote from: US71 on December 26, 2017, 02:11:44 PM
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 02:07:00 PM
Okay, can we get a ban now? :banghead:
You want to be banned? :hmmm: :hmmm:
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 02:16:01 PM
:bigass: (I meant webny, if you were not sarcastic)
Always be specific.
And, since we're apparently doing the smiley thing lately... :fight:
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 02:18:16 PM
Quote from: US71 on December 26, 2017, 02:11:44 PM
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 02:07:00 PM
Okay, can we get a ban now? :banghead:
You want to be banned? :hmmm: :hmmm:
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 02:16:01 PM
:bigass: (I meant webny, if you were not sarcastic)
Always be specific.
And, since we're apparently doing the smiley thing lately... :fight:
Here are all of the smileys in one post:
:poke: :angry: :sombrero: :colorful: :confused: :wow: :-/ :cool: :-o :rolleyes: :ded: :-D :D :) :-| :love: :no: :pan: :crazy: :-( X-( :sleep: :-P :paranoid: ;-) :nod: :biggrin: :eyebrow: :spin: :clap: :banghead: :coffee: :meh: :hmmm: :wave: :awesomeface: :bigass:
Anyway, could we please have some more input on webny?
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 02:21:03 PM
Anyway, could we please have some more input on webny?
Please explain.
As to whether he is a troll or not.
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 02:21:03 PM
Here are all of the smileys in one post:
You missed some, including the one I used.
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 02:21:03 PM
Anyway, could we please have some more input on webny?
We should form a subcommittee.
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 02:33:56 PM
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 02:21:03 PM
Here are all of the smileys in one post:
You missed some, including the one I used.
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 02:21:03 PM
Anyway, could we please have some more input on webny?
We should form a subcommittee.
:cheers: /s
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 02:31:37 PM
As to whether he is a troll or not.
I didn't know you were a Moderator? Usually the Moderators decide if someone is trolling and whether they should be warned, suspended, or banned. :-|
Quote from: roadguy2 on December 26, 2017, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: webny99 on December 26, 2017, 12:41:19 PM
Happy holidays all and thanks for keeping me entertained. So far I have a 5-0 record for getting the reaction I wanted out of threads like this :bigass:
Quote from: webny99 on December 26, 2017, 12:47:00 PM
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So you're confirming you're a troll? GTFO.
Not at all. Rather, you are confirming that you haven't read the OP. I explicitly stated that I expected a good reaction, and that I got.
According to Wikipedia, a troll is:
Quote from: Wikipedia
a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting quarrels or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion, often for the troll's amusement.
Although you aren't really "sowing discord" , you're pushing the members of this forum around to see if you can get a reaction out of them, for your own amusement.
Everyone else besides you and kphoger seems to be in agreement.
EDIT: From the dictionary: "
A person who intentionally antagonizes others online by posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content." Webny's post was irrelevant.
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 02:37:50 PM
Everyone else besides you and kphoger seems to be in agreement.
Wait, what? Did I actually comment on whether or not you're a troll? If so, that wasn't my intention.
I am not a moderator but, IMHO, starting topics just to get a rise out of everyone is easy grounds for having the topic locked. Doing it more than once is easy grounds for getting a warning from a mod. Bragging about it is reasonable grounds for suspension. Keeping it up after suspension is reasonable grounds for a ban.
No one gets to poke a bear and then complain about the medical bill.
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 02:44:26 PM
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 02:37:50 PM
Everyone else besides you and kphoger seems to be in agreement.
Wait, what? Did I actually comment on whether or not you're a troll? If so, that wasn't my intention.
I am not a moderator but, IMHO, starting topics just to get a rise out of everyone is easy grounds for having the topic locked. Doing it more than once is easy grounds for getting a warning from a mod. Bragging about it is reasonable grounds for suspension. Keeping it up after suspension is reasonable grounds for a ban.
No one gets to poke a bear and then complain about the medical bill.
Okay, so it is only you who does not think that obvious trolls should be banned. Like this one.
Quote from: webny99 on December 26, 2017, 12:41:19 PM
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 23, 2017, 05:46:54 PM
Not everything they do is a moderator action.
It seems to me it is, unless trolls are controlling their accounts
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 10:46:59 AM
Now. Having said all of that, I should also point out that the quoted comment could have been made with tongue in cheek. I did, after all, snip out the 'bigass' smiley. Plus, an action done by a moderator is by definition a moderator action. I could be making a mountain out of a molehill. But, be that as it may, I stand by my words and I won't delete this post.
I had committed not to post again in this thread. But, out of fairness and respect and justice, I will confirm your last paragraph, in particular the bolded statement. I thought that would have been obvious, but I would never use that smiley unless I intended my post as humor. Nor would I disrespect the moderators without a really good reason.
Happy holidays all and thanks for keeping me entertained. So far I have a 5-0 record for getting the reaction I wanted out of threads like this :bigass:
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 02:49:08 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 02:44:26 PM
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 02:37:50 PM
Everyone else besides you and kphoger seems to be in agreement.
Wait, what? Did I actually comment on whether or not you're a troll? If so, that wasn't my intention.
I am not a moderator but, IMHO, starting topics just to get a rise out of everyone is easy grounds for having the topic locked. Doing it more than once is easy grounds for getting a warning from a mod. Bragging about it is reasonable grounds for suspension. Keeping it up after suspension is reasonable grounds for a ban.
No one gets to poke a bear and then complain about the medical bill.
Okay, so it is only you who does not think that obvious trolls should be banned. Like this one.
kphoger is saying to ban temporarily first, then ban permanently if they continue. I agree with this.
There is precedent for this. Our most persistent troll, dzlsabe, was temporarily banned several times before being permanently banned.
Alrighty then, let's shut him up for a month. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
This is not a democracy. Moderators exist so that things like this don't come to a vote.
It would be nice if this thread could actually get back to the topic (the "waits for the explosion" comment in the OP notwithstanding) of what level of questioning is tolerated by members in thread form, and stop being about our personal opinion of a specific user.
Who needs moderators when we have a marferator?
Let's dissect all of his posts in this thread to show his troll nature:
Quote from: webny99 on December 21, 2017, 06:47:18 PM
For example, "Wow, the forum was rather slow and boring while I was away :bigass:"
This is a legitimate question - I could not find anything explicitly mentioned in the rules.
Also, did I miss something interesting, about "Maine Highway Fridays" :confused:
[webny99 sits back and waits for the explosion]
This post is troll execpt for the second line, which is intended to convince people that he is not a troll. It is a legit question, but covered in bullshit for him to use.
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 04:44:11 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 23, 2017, 11:27:49 AM
There's a lot of questions about the forums. Different subtopics, rearranging regions, etc. They are certainly welcomed...even if people don't agree with them.
But this isn't a personal blog. You can write on your blog "I was away for a week and nothing happened". On a public forum where lots happened but maybe not in topics that you care about, it's a bit rude to act is if you're the life of the party.
I'd be interested in your definition of "lots". Feel free to parse through the statistics (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=stats). I don't think I'm the life of the party, but I did provide us with our first 500-post day, and have started a host of interesting topics. I'm sorry if you interpreted it as rudeness. ":bigass:" is basically a synonym for [humor] around here, as I presume you knew. However, I was always taught to choose my battles wisely, so I will not argue further about my contributions. I think they speak for themselves.
This is him gloating and trying to recant his previous statements.
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 05:31:13 PM
Quote from: Marf on December 23, 2017, 04:58:00 PM
Webny, this forum is not that popular. That being said the mods do not have an active presence here. Just try to keep this stuff in this board. And no, you are not the life of the party unless you call deleted posts interesting.
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 04:44:11 PM
I don't think I'm the life of the party
And yes, the mods do have an active presence no matter how you define it.
Here, he is trying to change the subject.
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: Marf on December 23, 2017, 05:45:18 PM
Also, why did you delete a bunch of posts?
No matter how I answer that, it will spark controversy, so I'm not going to answer it at all. I have a lot of history here, considering I only joined in May. If others want to give you their take on why I deleted 380 posts, they may do so at their leisure.
Quote from: 1 on December 23, 2017, 05:46:54 PM
Not everything they do is a moderator action.
It seems to me it is, unless trolls are controlling their accounts :bigass:
I cannot figure out what he means here.
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 09:47:45 PM
Facts can be stated in such a way that they are not bragging. Bragging is defined as excessively proud or boastful talk. My above sentence was neither. It was not even a complex sentence, it was a bare-bones fact.
In any case, in the light of the OP, it would be utter folly to say anything else in my defense, so I will not.
He is clearly wrong and is saying that because he shitposts that people should not scrutinize him.
Quote from: webny99 on December 26, 2017, 12:41:19 PM
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 23, 2017, 05:46:54 PM
Not everything they do is a moderator action.
It seems to me it is, unless trolls are controlling their accounts
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 10:46:59 AM
Now. Having said all of that, I should also point out that the quoted comment could have been made with tongue in cheek. I did, after all, snip out the 'bigass' smiley. Plus, an action done by a moderator is by definition a moderator action. I could be making a mountain out of a molehill. But, be that as it may, I stand by my words and I won't delete this post.
I had committed not to post again in this thread. But, out of fairness and respect and justice, I will confirm your last paragraph, in particular the bolded statement. I thought that would have been obvious, but I would never use that smiley unless I intended my post as humor. Nor would I disrespect the moderators without a really good reason.
Happy holidays all and thanks for keeping me entertained. So far I have a 5-0 record for getting the reaction I wanted out of threads like this :bigass:
This is pure troll.
Quote from: webny99 on December 26, 2017, 12:45:38 PM
I don't intend to get banned. I'm not that foolish. If I was that foolish, I would have kept both of my accounts. Plus, why would I invite the mods to ban me? I am a true roadgeek and I think I've provided more than sufficient evidence of that.
(And, re: comments upthread - the reason I had two accounts was not to troll, but rather, so that I could use a different username. I know now that it is possible to PM a moderator to change it, but did not know that at the time.)
More trolling and trying to cover for himself.
Does this look like an innocent user? No. This looks like a troll.
Quote from: corco on December 26, 2017, 03:11:21 PM
Who needs moderators when we have a marferator?
"Moderator" sort of rhymes with "Carburetor." And cars with carburetors didn't disappear from showroom floors until decades after fuel injection was introduced. Moderators will give may to Marferators only if the market demands it.
:bigass:
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 03:15:13 PM
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: Marf on December 23, 2017, 05:45:18 PM
Also, why did you delete a bunch of posts?
No matter how I answer that, it will spark controversy, so I'm not going to answer it at all. I have a lot of history here, considering I only joined in May. If others want to give you their take on why I deleted 380 posts, they may do so at their leisure.
Quote from: 1 on December 23, 2017, 05:46:54 PM
Not everything they do is a moderator action.
It seems to me it is, unless trolls are controlling their accounts :bigass:
I cannot figure out what he means here.
Then you didn't read this post, where he confirmed my interpretation of it.
Quote from: webny99 on December 26, 2017, 12:41:19 PM
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 23, 2017, 05:46:54 PM
Not everything they do is a moderator action.
It seems to me it is, unless trolls are controlling their accounts
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 10:46:59 AM
Now. Having said all of that, I should also point out that the quoted comment could have been made with tongue in cheek. I did, after all, snip out the 'bigass' smiley. Plus, an action done by a moderator is by definition a moderator action. I could be making a mountain out of a molehill. But, be that as it may, I stand by my words and I won't delete this post.
I had committed not to post again in this thread. But, out of fairness and respect and justice, I will confirm your last paragraph, in particular the bolded statement. I thought that would have been obvious, but I would never use that smiley unless I intended my post as humor. Nor would I disrespect the moderators without a really good reason.
Happy holidays all and thanks for keeping me entertained. So far I have a 5-0 record for getting the reaction I wanted out of threads like this :bigass:
Then you didn't read this post, where he confirmed my interpretation of it. (Particularly the bolded section)
Quote from: webny99 on December 26, 2017, 12:41:19 PM
I had committed not to post again in this thread. But, out of fairness and respect and justice, I will confirm your last paragraph, in particular the bolded statement. I thought that would have been obvious, but I would never use that smiley unless I intended my post as humor. Nor would I disrespect the moderators without a really good reason.
Happy holidays all and thanks for keeping me entertained. So far I have a 5-0 record for getting the reaction I wanted out of threads like this :bigass:
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 10:46:59 AM
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 23, 2017, 05:46:54 PM
Not everything they do is a moderator action.
It seems to me it is, unless trolls are controlling their accounts
Quote from: adventurernumber1 on December 24, 2017, 02:34:09 PM
Wait, some of you think that the only thing the staff do here is moderate? :crazy:
Yeah, that might have been the second-most uninformed post I've ever read on this site, with the sole exception being the Alanland OP. As tough of an environment as this forum can get to be sometimes, I have the utmost respect for the moderators and administrators of the site, and I have never once gotten the impression they were just a bunch of jail masters. In fact, they do so much apart from mod/admin activity that I frequently forget who's a mod and who's not. I've only been to one meet, but I honestly couldn't even tell you if there was a mod with me or not; that's partly because I'm bad at names, but it's also because I honestly didn't care. The mods and admins on this site are "just one of the guys" who happen to have made a commitment to make this thing run well.
A user only having been on the site for a few months can get a skewed view of things, perhaps. Maybe the mods weren't as active as they had been recently, maybe they were only contributing in other threads, maybe there was a whole bunch of crap going on that needed moderator action. Whatever. I can't imagine being a new-ish member of any forum and presuming to cast judgment upon the moderators; that strikes me as an immature action, done by one who has a bit to learn about humility and respect, done by one who thinks everything is about him.
Now. Having said all of that, I should also point out that the quoted comment could have been made with tongue in cheek. I did, after all, snip out the 'bigass' smiley. Plus, an action done by a moderator is by definition a moderator action. I could be making a mountain out of a molehill. But, be that as it may, I stand by my words and I won't delete this post.
/me offers all the moderators and administrators a virtual beer in appreciation of their work. Merry Christmas and thank you, guys! :cheers:
Congrats, you have just posted the stupidest statement this thread!
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 03:15:13 PM
Let's dissect all of his posts in this thread to show his troll nature:
Quote from: webny99 on December 21, 2017, 06:47:18 PM
For example, "Wow, the forum was rather slow and boring while I was away :bigass:"
This is a legitimate question - I could not find anything explicitly mentioned in the rules.
Also, did I miss something interesting, about "Maine Highway Fridays" :confused:
[webny99 sits back and waits for the explosion]
This post is troll execpt for the second line, which is intended to convince people that he is not a troll. It is a legit question, but covered in bullshit for him to use.
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 04:44:11 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 23, 2017, 11:27:49 AM
There's a lot of questions about the forums. Different subtopics, rearranging regions, etc. They are certainly welcomed...even if people don't agree with them.
But this isn't a personal blog. You can write on your blog "I was away for a week and nothing happened". On a public forum where lots happened but maybe not in topics that you care about, it's a bit rude to act is if you're the life of the party.
I'd be interested in your definition of "lots". Feel free to parse through the statistics (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=stats). I don't think I'm the life of the party, but I did provide us with our first 500-post day, and have started a host of interesting topics. I'm sorry if you interpreted it as rudeness. ":bigass:" is basically a synonym for [humor] around here, as I presume you knew. However, I was always taught to choose my battles wisely, so I will not argue further about my contributions. I think they speak for themselves.
This is him gloating and trying to recant his previous statements.
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 05:31:13 PM
Quote from: Marf on December 23, 2017, 04:58:00 PM
Webny, this forum is not that popular. That being said the mods do not have an active presence here. Just try to keep this stuff in this board. And no, you are not the life of the party unless you call deleted posts interesting.
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 04:44:11 PM
I don't think I'm the life of the party
And yes, the mods do have an active presence no matter how you define it.
Here, he is trying to change the subject.
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: Marf on December 23, 2017, 05:45:18 PM
Also, why did you delete a bunch of posts?
No matter how I answer that, it will spark controversy, so I'm not going to answer it at all. I have a lot of history here, considering I only joined in May. If others want to give you their take on why I deleted 380 posts, they may do so at their leisure.
Quote from: 1 on December 23, 2017, 05:46:54 PM
Not everything they do is a moderator action.
It seems to me it is, unless trolls are controlling their accounts :bigass:
I cannot figure out what he means here.
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 09:47:45 PM
Facts can be stated in such a way that they are not bragging. Bragging is defined as excessively proud or boastful talk. My above sentence was neither. It was not even a complex sentence, it was a bare-bones fact.
In any case, in the light of the OP, it would be utter folly to say anything else in my defense, so I will not.
He is clearly wrong and is saying that because he shitposts that people should not scrutinize him.
Quote from: webny99 on December 26, 2017, 12:41:19 PM
Quote from: webny99 on December 23, 2017, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 23, 2017, 05:46:54 PM
Not everything they do is a moderator action.
It seems to me it is, unless trolls are controlling their accounts
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 10:46:59 AM
Now. Having said all of that, I should also point out that the quoted comment could have been made with tongue in cheek. I did, after all, snip out the 'bigass' smiley. Plus, an action done by a moderator is by definition a moderator action. I could be making a mountain out of a molehill. But, be that as it may, I stand by my words and I won't delete this post.
I had committed not to post again in this thread. But, out of fairness and respect and justice, I will confirm your last paragraph, in particular the bolded statement. I thought that would have been obvious, but I would never use that smiley unless I intended my post as humor. Nor would I disrespect the moderators without a really good reason.
Happy holidays all and thanks for keeping me entertained. So far I have a 5-0 record for getting the reaction I wanted out of threads like this :bigass:
This is pure troll.
Quote from: webny99 on December 26, 2017, 12:45:38 PM
I don't intend to get banned. I'm not that foolish. If I was that foolish, I would have kept both of my accounts. Plus, why would I invite the mods to ban me? I am a true roadgeek and I think I've provided more than sufficient evidence of that.
(And, re: comments upthread - the reason I had two accounts was not to troll, but rather, so that I could use a different username. I know now that it is possible to PM a moderator to change it, but did not know that at the time.)
More trolling and trying to cover for himself.
Does this look like an innocent user? No. This looks like a troll.
No, I think that statement is the stupidest. :hmm:
On a less snarky note, to which specific statement were you referring?
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 03:45:13 PM
No, I think that statement is the stupidest. :hmm:
On a less snarky note, to which specific statement were you referring?
The bolded one
It is against the forum rules to quote PM's!
I could care less, but hey, now it's out there: I'm not a troll! Everyone knew that anyways!
If it will help the situation, I apologize for my wackiness, which I do find quite amusing.
Quote removed. Summary: "I am sorry for mentioning you (VERY irrelevantly), but I am not a troll, but I will brag about my accomplishments but not tell you."
Also against the rules? This: No Sock-Puppeting. This is cloning yourself with a second username; one per member will suffice.
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 03:47:08 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 03:45:13 PM
No, I think that statement is the stupidest. :hmm:
On a less snarky note, to which specific statement were you referring?
The bolded one
What's stupid about it? Moderators don't stop being moderators when they participate in normal discussion. It's a reasonable discussion to have–whether a post made by a mod about a user should be considered official or not.
Quote from: webny99 on December 26, 2017, 03:48:54 PM
I could care less
That means you care. If you didn't care, then you could
n't care less.
Quote from: webny99 on December 26, 2017, 03:48:54 PM
I'm not a troll! Everyone knew that anyways!
I'm still not convinced.
Quote from: webny99 on December 26, 2017, 03:48:54 PM
If it will help the situation, I apologize for my wackiness, which I do find quite amusing.
Calling a pig a rose doesn't make it smell any sweeter.
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 03:56:29 PM
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 03:47:08 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 03:45:13 PM
No, I think that statement is the stupidest. :hmm:
On a less snarky note, to which specific statement were you referring?
The bolded one
What's stupid about it? Moderators don't stop being moderators when they participate in normal discussion. It's a reasonable discussion to have–whether a post made by a mod about a user should be considered official or not.
It is just so obvious. No harm intended! :bigass:
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 03:56:29 PM
What's stupid about it? Moderators don't stop being moderators when they participate in normal discussion. It's a reasonable discussion to have–whether a post made by a mod about a user should be considered official or not.
That's what purple text is for.
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 03:58:08 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 03:56:29 PM
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 03:47:08 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 03:45:13 PM
No, I think that statement is the stupidest. :hmm:
On a less snarky note, to which specific statement were you referring?
The bolded one
What's stupid about it? Moderators don't stop being moderators when they participate in normal discussion. It's a reasonable discussion to have–whether a post made by a mod about a user should be considered official or not.
It is just so obvious. No harm intended! :bigass:
Then why couldn't you figure out what he meant? (No harm taken.)
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 03:59:55 PM
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 03:58:08 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 03:56:29 PM
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 03:47:08 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 03:45:13 PM
No, I think that statement is the stupidest. :hmm:
On a less snarky note, to which specific statement were you referring?
The bolded one
What's stupid about it? Moderators don't stop being moderators when they participate in normal discussion. It's a reasonable discussion to have–whether a post made by a mod about a user should be considered official or not.
It is just so obvious. No harm intended! :bigass:
Then why couldn't you figure out what he meant? (No harm taken.)
I did. It just does not have to do with this thread.
Quote from: webny99 on December 26, 2017, 03:48:54 PM
I could care less
That means you care. If you didn't care, then you could
n't care less.
Quote from: webny99 on December 26, 2017, 03:48:54 PM
I'm not a troll! Everyone knew that anyways!
I'm still not convinced.
Quote from: webny99 on December 26, 2017, 03:48:54 PM
If it will help the situation, I apologize for my wackiness, which I do find quite amusing.
Calling a pig a rose doesn't make it smell any sweeter.
-endqoute-
One more piece of evidence to get this mouthbreather a tempban.
Quote from: 1 on December 26, 2017, 03:59:45 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 03:56:29 PM
What's stupid about it? Moderators don't stop being moderators when they participate in normal discussion. It's a reasonable discussion to have–whether a post made by a mod about a user should be considered official or not.
That's what purple text is for.
I know. It was sort of a thought experiment, but I thought it might have been part of
webny99's comment. Probably ran too far with that.
And I also think people don't appreciate that there is back-room communication between moderators that usually leads to
no visible action taken. It's a bit like saying your parents weren't very active in your upbringing, only stepping in every so often to crack the whip. You were never privy to the countless times they decided behind closed doors to
not discipline you, and you didn't notice the subtle ways they corrected your behavior
without overt intervention.
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 04:07:54 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 26, 2017, 03:59:45 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 03:56:29 PM
What's stupid about it? Moderators don't stop being moderators when they participate in normal discussion. It's a reasonable discussion to have–whether a post made by a mod about a user should be considered official or not.
That's what purple text is for.
I know. It was sort of a thought experiment, but I thought it might have been part of webny99's comment. Probably ran too far with that.
And I also think people don't appreciate that there is back-room communication between moderators that usually leads to no visible action taken. It's a bit like saying your parents weren't very active in your upbringing, only stepping in every so often to crack the whip. You were never privy to the countless times they decided behind closed doors to not discipline you, and you didn't notice the subtle ways they corrected your behavior without overt intervention.
A good parent is an active one (which your example is not). Same for mods. If I was a mod that jerk would have been out of there on 444/44.
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 04:10:23 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 04:07:54 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 26, 2017, 03:59:45 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 03:56:29 PM
What's stupid about it? Moderators don't stop being moderators when they participate in normal discussion. It's a reasonable discussion to have–whether a post made by a mod about a user should be considered official or not.
That's what purple text is for.
I know. It was sort of a thought experiment, but I thought it might have been part of webny99's comment. Probably ran too far with that.
And I also think people don't appreciate that there is back-room communication between moderators that usually leads to no visible action taken. It's a bit like saying your parents weren't very active in your upbringing, only stepping in every so often to crack the whip. You were never privy to the countless times they decided behind closed doors to not discipline you, and you didn't notice the subtle ways they corrected your behavior without overt intervention.
A good parent is an active one (which your example is not). Same for mods.
You missed my point. A parent not being visibly active in the child's eyes doesn't mean the parent isn't active. When you have children, you'll appreciate that a lot of active parenting happens without the child being aware of it.
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 04:12:06 PM
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 04:10:23 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 04:07:54 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 26, 2017, 03:59:45 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 03:56:29 PM
What's stupid about it? Moderators don't stop being moderators when they participate in normal discussion. It's a reasonable discussion to have–whether a post made by a mod about a user should be considered official or not.
That's what purple text is for.
I know. It was sort of a thought experiment, but I thought it might have been part of webny99's comment. Probably ran too far with that.
And I also think people don't appreciate that there is back-room communication between moderators that usually leads to no visible action taken. It's a bit like saying your parents weren't very active in your upbringing, only stepping in every so often to crack the whip. You were never privy to the countless times they decided behind closed doors to not discipline you, and you didn't notice the subtle ways they corrected your behavior without overt intervention.
A good parent is an active one (which your example is not). Same for mods.
You missed my point. A parent not being visibly active in the child's eyes doesn't mean the parent isn't active. When you have children, you'll appreciate that a lot of active parenting happens without the child being aware of it.
When I have children? Then I might actually be there and protect them from bullies. In your example they need to be there right f***ing now.
Whatever.
Quote from: Marf on December 26, 2017, 04:31:32 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 04:29:43 PM
Whatever.
You running away?
I don't feel like hitting my head against a wall. :banghead:
If you want to call that running away, so be it.
Wait for webny to come back. He can solve this for you.
I am locking this until you all quit acting like children.
Also Marf, you're on very thin ice yourself right now. As others have said, don't poke the bear and then complain about medical bills afterwards.
Also, it should be noted that publicly calling for moderation of a member is tacky as all hell. If you really want something done about a problem user, PM a moderator, who can pass it along to the others.