NFL (2024 Season)

[webny99]

Stefon Diggs has been traded to the Texans for a 2025 second round draft pick. Didn't think this would really happen, but history has a way of repeating itself.

https://www.nfl.com/news/bills-trade-wr-stefon-diggs-to-texans-for-2025-second-round-draft-pick

Vikings definitely won the trade when they got rid of him. He's a diva even by WR standards.

That seems like hindsight bias to me and I don't think it would be talked about that way if they hadn't replaced him with Jefferson. The Bills got 3.5 years of a true #1 WR, plus arguably the trade opened a Super Bowl window for them which is worth something too. It was the rare trade that worked out for both sides, we knew that already and whatever happens in 2024 and beyond doesn't change that.

[JayhawkCO]

Stefon Diggs has been traded to the Texans for a 2025 second round draft pick. Didn't think this would really happen, but history has a way of repeating itself.

https://www.nfl.com/news/bills-trade-wr-stefon-diggs-to-texans-for-2025-second-round-draft-pick

Vikings definitely won the trade when they got rid of him. He's a diva even by WR standards.

That seems like hindsight bias to me and I don't think it would be talked about that way if they hadn't replaced him with Jefferson. The Bills got 3.5 years of a true #1 WR, plus arguably the trade opened a Super Bowl window for them which is worth something too. It was the rare trade that worked out for both sides, we knew that already and whatever happens in 2024 and beyond doesn't change that.

Sure, there's some hindsight, but Diggs has always pissed and moaned if he felt like he wasn't getting the ball enough. He's a hell of a receiver, but he's not too far away from Antonio Brown as far as mentality. I think the Vikings were happy to offload him and didn't need a lot of convincing. Now he's worn out his welcome in Buffalo, too. I would guess Houston might get two years of him being happy before he becomes a locker room cancer again.

[jgb191]

The only thing I know about Diggs is what he did in this clip:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJzpoj_NxqQ

[epzik8]

Have the Texans officially had the fastest rebuild in NFL history?

[JayhawkCO]

Stefon Diggs has been traded to the Texans for a 2025 second round draft pick. Didn't think this would really happen, but history has a way of repeating itself.

https://www.nfl.com/news/bills-trade-wr-stefon-diggs-to-texans-for-2025-second-round-draft-pick

Vikings definitely won the trade when they got rid of him. He's a diva even by WR standards.

That seems like hindsight bias to me and I don't think it would be talked about that way if they hadn't replaced him with Jefferson. The Bills got 3.5 years of a true #1 WR, plus arguably the trade opened a Super Bowl window for them which is worth something too. It was the rare trade that worked out for both sides, we knew that already and whatever happens in 2024 and beyond doesn't change that.

Sure, there's some hindsight, but Diggs has always pissed and moaned if he felt like he wasn't getting the ball enough. He's a hell of a receiver, but he's not too far away from Antonio Brown as far as mentality. I think the Vikings were happy to offload him and didn't need a lot of convincing. Now he's worn out his welcome in Buffalo, too. I would guess Houston might get two years of him being happy before he becomes a locker room cancer again.

And now the Texans just axed the last three years of his contract, making him a free agent after this year. Bizarre.

[thspfc]

Have the Texans officially had the fastest rebuild in NFL history?

No, they were terrible for 3 years.

[SEWIGuy]

Have the Texans officially had the fastest rebuild in NFL history?

Green Bay post-Rodgers.

[JayhawkCO]

Have the Texans officially had the fastest rebuild in NFL history?

Green Bay post-Rodgers.

For either of these, I'm going to need to see more than one year of being good before I'm okay saying that they're "rebuilt".

[webny99]

Have the Texans officially had the fastest rebuild in NFL history?

Green Bay post-Rodgers.

For either of these, I'm going to need to see more than one year of being good before I'm okay saying that they're "rebuilt".

Also, Texans and Packers are somewhat apples and oranges. Texans went from NFL laughingstock for multiple seasons running to pretty good in one season. Packers went from great with Rodgers to pretty good with Love in a season and a half, but I'm not sure that qualifies as a "rebuild" from a roster perspective.

[epzik8]

All of a sudden, Jayden Daniels doesn't appear headed to Landover after whatever that quarterback visit was.

[JayhawkCO]

All of a sudden, Jayden Daniels doesn't appear headed to Landover after whatever that quarterback visit was.

I think this might end up benefiting the Vikings efforts to trade up. I have a hunch Daniels might fall a bit, perhaps into an easier range for the Vikings to trade into.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

All of a sudden, Jayden Daniels doesn't appear headed to Landover after whatever that quarterback visit was.

I think this might end up benefiting the Vikings efforts to trade up. I have a hunch Daniels might fall a bit, perhaps into an easier range for the Vikings to trade into.

I feel it would be a coup for the Vikings. I'm really uninterested in any of the QBs below Drake Maye, so that would have me feeling a lot better.

[epzik8]

All of a sudden, Jayden Daniels doesn't appear headed to Landover after whatever that quarterback visit was.

I think this might end up benefiting the Vikings efforts to trade up. I have a hunch Daniels might fall a bit, perhaps into an easier range for the Vikings to trade into.

I feel it would be a coup for the Vikings. I'm really uninterested in any of the QBs below Drake Maye, so that would have me feeling a lot better.

I just don't want us (Commanders) to trade the second pick to the Raiders as some are suggesting, if it means we have to wait another year for a top prospect who may not be as capable as any of this year's.

[epzik8]

All of a sudden, Jayden Daniels doesn't appear headed to Landover after whatever that quarterback visit was.

I think this might end up benefiting the Vikings efforts to trade up. I have a hunch Daniels might fall a bit, perhaps into an easier range for the Vikings to trade into.

I feel it would be a coup for the Vikings. I'm really uninterested in any of the QBs below Drake Maye, so that would have me feeling a lot better.

I just don't want us (Commanders) to trade the second pick to the Raiders as some are suggesting, if it means we have to wait another year for a top prospect who may not be as capable as any of this year's.

Well it sounds like this mess has been averted.

[webny99]

Last year's NFL draft had a lot of first-round draft pick movement. The Dolphins pick was forfeited so there were only 31 picks made by 27 different teams. Various trades resulted in the Texans, Eagles, Lions, and Seahawks picking twice, while the Browns, Broncos, Rams, and 49ers did not pick at all.


This year is a lot more straightforward, at least as we enter draft night. 29 teams still have their original pick while the Panthers, Browns, and Texans have traded away their pick(s). The Bears, Cardinals, and Vikings have two picks each.

The Browns are the only team with no first-rounder this year or last. Meanwhile, the Rams are slated to make a first-round pick for the first time since drafting Jared Goff in 2016 (yes, you read that right!)

[epzik8]

What do you mean the Rams haven't had a first-round pick since 2016?

[JayhawkCO]

What do you mean the Rams haven't had a first-round pick since 2016?

That they have not selected in the first round since 2016. They traded them all away.

[thspfc]

If you listened to the internet you would think it's remarkable that the franchise hasn't spontaneously combusted yet after having no first round picks for 8 years.

[JayhawkCO]

If you listened to the internet you would think it's remarkable that the franchise hasn't spontaneously combusted yet after having no first round picks for 8 years.

It's mostly about trying to stay under the salary cap. Being able to sign high-talent guys to rookie contracts is the easiest way to have several years of relevancy.

[epzik8]

Williams, Daniels, Maye first three picks. Stunner.

[Ted$8roadFan]

New England Patriots select NC QB Drake Maye at #3.

[webny99]

New England Patriots select NC QB Drake Maye at #3.

A bummer for the rest of the AFC East.

Falcons selecting Michael Penix Jr at #8 overall is the most surprising QB pick since Daniel Jones.

This draft has definitely made history opening with 14 straight offensive players, not to mention the record-setting 6 QB's in the first 12 picks.

6 QB's gone before the Raiders picked at #13 was definitely not something anyone had mocked and they would have been laughed off the street if they had. There was plenty of talk of Bo Nix falling out of the first round entirely like Will Levis, while hardly anyone considered that he might go as early as #12. Also since there were only 6 potential first round QB's, there was some extra petty motivation for the Broncos to take the last one to stick it to the Raiders. They still got a good player in Brock Bowers, but you can bet they're disappointed all 6 QB's were gone.

[webny99]

The Jaguars continue to annoy the Bills (or Bills fans at least), drafting LSU WR Brian Thomas Jr at pick #23. Naturally followed by the Cowboys trading down from pick #24, so there's a decent chance the Bills would've/could've moved up if he'd made it past the Jags.

[Henry]

The big offseason news has been that the Bears are trying to get a new stadium built in downtown Chicago. I have a feeling that this will overshadow the development of Caleb Williams for the next few seasons. But OTOH, here's hoping that it will be better built than the renovation monstrosity that ruined Soldier Field.

[thspfc]

If Cousins plays out his contract, Penix will be 28 years old - probabilistically over halfway through his prime - and entering his fifth year option season by the time he becomes the starter.

If they let Cousins go after two years, they will have to pay out his guaranteed money, negating the benefit of having a starting QB on a rookie contract. And even by then Penix will be 26 and the team will have one season to decide whether to take his fifth-year.

Just hard to stress enough how idiotic it is, and it's really nothing new for that franchise. Last 4 first round picks:

- a playmaking tight end they can't get the ball to and has been splitting snaps with Jonnu Smith;
 
- a receiver who has been held back by incompetent QB play;

- a running back who split snaps with Tyler Allgeier;

- a quarterback who they will either A) effectively pay franchise QB money to before he is ever their starter, or B) sit for four years - from age 24-27, probabilistically his best years as a player - and then evaluate whether he's the future of their franchise based on one season. If he is, they will subsequently have to pay him at the top of the market immediately.

History might forget about it because none of them were outright busts (yet), but considering all the context, the on-field value above replacement level provided by those four picks is way lower than what you would expect to get out of four first rounders. Oh, and, they were all top 8 picks. It makes my head spin. And it has nothing to do with Penix himself as a prospect.


Chiefs go from a WR trio of rookie Rashee Rice, Justin Watson, and MVS to second-year Rashee Rice (doubt the recent incident keeps him off the field for longer than a few games), Marquise Brown, and Xavier Worthy. They just won the Super Bowl and beat, analytically, two of the best NFL teams of all time in doing so. I'm never going to be a 17-0 idiot, but it really seems like the only ways this team will lose are injuries, luck, or everyone on the other team playing the game of their life.