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Quote from: vdeane on Today at 12:43:24 PMQuote from: Rothman on Today at 06:57:08 AMOf course, that will no longer be an interstate/interstate junction at that point.Quote from: jdunlop on April 24, 2024, 08:42:15 PMQuote from: sprjus4 on April 22, 2024, 11:00:12 PMQuote from: cowboy_wilhelm on April 22, 2024, 10:19:47 PMI agree... I can understand the ramps for redundancy, but 2 lane flyovers seem a bit excessive. Well... at least they will never be congested!Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on April 11, 2024, 08:37:28 PMI don't get the need for full access at all 3 interchanges.
I was wondering this as well. Who is going from I-40 westbound to I-74 westbound or eastbound, or I-74 (either direction) to I-40 EB? There are no plans to continue the beltway south/west, right? Seems like a massive interchange for very little traffic.
FHWA requires full movement at all Interstate interchanges (with very few exceptions) hence the redundant ramps.
When I-481 is converted to I-81, its connection from I-81 SB to BL-81 NB will no longer be direct as I-481 SB to I-81 NB is now, despite BL-81 still being limited access north of the interchange.
QuoteI honestly would not be surprised if this regulation is the reason why keeping the freeway north of I-690 as a 3di was nixed (along with the plan to build the missing movements at the I-690 interchange). Still don't know why it couldn't be a state route the whole way, however. Region 3 just dodged the question when I asked.
Quote from: Rothman on Today at 06:57:08 AMOf course, that will no longer be an interstate/interstate junction at that point.Quote from: jdunlop on April 24, 2024, 08:42:15 PMQuote from: sprjus4 on April 22, 2024, 11:00:12 PMQuote from: cowboy_wilhelm on April 22, 2024, 10:19:47 PMI agree... I can understand the ramps for redundancy, but 2 lane flyovers seem a bit excessive. Well... at least they will never be congested!Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on April 11, 2024, 08:37:28 PMI don't get the need for full access at all 3 interchanges.
I was wondering this as well. Who is going from I-40 westbound to I-74 westbound or eastbound, or I-74 (either direction) to I-40 EB? There are no plans to continue the beltway south/west, right? Seems like a massive interchange for very little traffic.
FHWA requires full movement at all Interstate interchanges (with very few exceptions) hence the redundant ramps.
When I-481 is converted to I-81, its connection from I-81 SB to BL-81 NB will no longer be direct as I-481 SB to I-81 NB is now, despite BL-81 still being limited access north of the interchange.
Quote from: SEWIGuy on Today at 12:09:24 PMQuote from: JayhawkCO on Today at 11:28:10 AMQuote from: SEWIGuy on Today at 11:16:30 AMQuote from: JayhawkCO on Today at 10:44:34 AMQuote from: triplemultiplex on Today at 10:36:46 AMYes, yes, it snows "everywhere" at some point. You know what I meant.
Not really.
Oh yeah?!?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_Earth
Figured something like that was coming. Recorded history works for me as opposed to a hypothesis.
It was just a joke you know.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on Today at 11:28:10 AMQuote from: SEWIGuy on Today at 11:16:30 AMQuote from: JayhawkCO on Today at 10:44:34 AMQuote from: triplemultiplex on Today at 10:36:46 AMYes, yes, it snows "everywhere" at some point. You know what I meant.
Not really.
Oh yeah?!?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_Earth
Figured something like that was coming. Recorded history works for me as opposed to a hypothesis.
Quote from: Voyager on April 24, 2024, 07:42:59 PMQuote from: heynow415 on April 24, 2024, 01:17:28 PMQuote from: Voyager on April 23, 2024, 04:31:09 PMQuote from: heynow415 on April 22, 2024, 12:38:08 PMAnother advantage of a 108/Sonora Pass tunnel alignment for an I-70 extension is that it would have lined up nicely with passing just south of Stockton (and the Port of) and then as an east/southeast entry to the Bay Area via the Altamont Pass/I-580/I-205/SR 120.
I always thought it was strange how 108/120 are basically freeways up to the Sonora area and then 108 has sections that keep going as random freeway and expressway in the mountains for it to just go straight into a windy road after Strawberry and Pinecrest Lake.
The Sonora "freeway" section is relatively new in the grand scheme of things but the three short expressway segments east of Knights Landing, through Twain Harte, and at Long Barn have been in place 50+ years. It is unfortunate that the notion of extending 120 east of 99 as a freeway to Oakdale is basically dead, though Escalon and Oakdale are probably rightly concerned that a freeway bypassing those communities would be a huge hit to them economically.
Four-laning 108(120) from the east end of the Knights Ferry segment to Yosemite Junction would seem like a relatively simple project given the ruralness and terrain; getting from the Junction through Jamestown to the Sonora segment would be a much bigger challenge. The section from the east end of the Sonora segment to the Twain Harte expressway is supposedly in the works. It's unlikely that the gap from Twain Harte to Long Barn would ever be built since trying to thread it through Mi-Wuk Village and other hamlets along the way, plus the terrain, is likely not justifiable from a cost, environmental, and constructability standpoint. And beyond Pinecrest it just isn't needed.
They are making 108/120 a freeway to Oakdale (eventually)
https://northcountycorridorphase1.com/project-overview/#:~:text=The%20ultimate%20North%20County%20Corridor,was%20segmented%20into%20four%20phases.
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on Today at 11:46:32 AMQuote from: 1995hoo on April 16, 2024, 10:57:24 AMIt's no longer the case, but this thread made me think of the problem of passing through the Baltimore area up until the Fort McHenry Tunnel opened in November 1985. ....
Ah, the Harbor Tunnel! If you think that was bad, you should have seen it before the Key Bridge (RIP) was opened. ....