I've noticed that a number of you have posted some scanned pages of Thomas Guides from the 50's - 70's ; and I am excited as heck about this :bigass:
My favourites thusfar have been the pages for "Dairy Land" (Cerritos) and especially the '68 RivCo / San Berdoo images .
A huge "THANK YOU!" to those whom have shared their visual fortunes with us :clap:
With this in-mind : I'm wondering if anyone has some close-up , detailled scans of the entire stretch of CA 71 , as it was from US 91 / CA 91 down to the San Diego County line ?
I'll shoot off some P.M.'s as well .
Thanks !
CA-71 was signed all the way down to the San Diego county line? I know this was the case in 1934-35, but I thought US-395 replaced it that year from what is now the 15-215 split.
I'd like to see pics of the entire CA-71, too. I know the current CA-371 is part of what was once CA-71, but I don't think I've ever seen a map of the entire route.
Quote from: http://gbcnet.com/roads/ca_routes_1934.html71. Jct. U.S. 80 near San Diego to Jct. U.S. 66 near Claremont, via Elsinore and Temecula.
When US 395 came along, this was cut back to Temecula and (perhaps not immediately) extended over what had been (and is now) SR 79 to Aguanga: http://web.archive.org/web/20110525044117/http://members.cox.net/mkpl2/hist/map-ca1955-ssw.jpg
did not know about that eastward extension. but, looking at the current map, I see CA-371 even further east, and I believe that is an old 71 extension. so it looks like 71 hooked east for quite a distance at some point.
doesn't look like it ever, after 1935, crossed the county line into San Diego County.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 07, 2012, 02:07:12 PM
did not know about that eastward extension. but, looking at the current map, I see CA-371 even further east, and I believe that is an old 71 extension. so it looks like 71 hooked east for quite a distance at some point.
Ah yes. SR 371 was 71 from 1964 to 1974.
I vaguely remember CA 71 in Lake Elsinore , and its multiple accesses vis-a-vie street-level crossings . Some relatives lived there in the 60's-70's ; we visited them in circa '74 , when Bundy Canyon was still a street-cross interchange .
CA 71 --aside from the Corona Expressway-- ran from CA 31 (Hamner-Milliken / Main Street in Corona) ; down Ontario ("Old Temescal Canyon" east of the freeway) to its name change at Temescal Canyon Road ; following Temescal to Lake Street in Unincorporated RivCo ; cut-southwest to Nichols Road ; Nichols to Collier (this is where I've "lost track" as I-15 was built atop much of the old 71 portions) ; eventually swinging southeast toward Agunga / CA 371 (3rd spur of 71 ?) .
WhEw! That's a lot to keep track of !
I-15 was "borrowed" from the old Long Beach Freeway designation (CA 15 , prior to 1964) ; and I-15's original routing followed present-day I-215 , until circa 1972 when it was renumbered I-15E.
As a side-note : I-215 (et seq.) is technically an expressway for much of its "new" portions (between CA 74 (old US 395) and I-15) ; its actual name is "Escondido Expressway".
Thanks again for all of your input , guys ! LOVE this forum thusfar :cool:
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Quote from: 1970_i feel alright on March 07, 2012, 09:59:38 PM
As a side-note : I-215 (et seq.) is technically an expressway for much of its "new" portions (between CA 74 (old US 395) and I-15) ; its actual name is "Escondido Expressway".
[size=wheat]No, it's a freeway with the name of the expressway it replaced.[/size]
Quote from: NE2 on March 07, 2012, 02:29:41 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 07, 2012, 02:07:12 PM
did not know about that eastward extension. but, looking at the current map, I see CA-371 even further east, and I believe that is an old 71 extension. so it looks like 71 hooked east for quite a distance at some point.
Ah yes. SR 371 was 71 from 1964 to 1974.
Wasn't it 71 before 1964? Prior to 1964, CA-79 came directly south from Hemet along what is now County R-3 and 71 came due east from U.S. 395 and continued on to CA-74.
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on March 07, 2012, 11:12:44 PM
Quote from: NE2 on March 07, 2012, 02:29:41 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 07, 2012, 02:07:12 PM
did not know about that eastward extension. but, looking at the current map, I see CA-371 even further east, and I believe that is an old 71 extension. so it looks like 71 hooked east for quite a distance at some point.
Ah yes. SR 371 was 71 from 1964 to 1974.
Wasn't it 71 before 1964? Prior to 1964, CA-79 came directly south from Hemet along what is now County R-3 and 71 came due east from U.S. 395 and continued on to CA-74.
Not unless 71 was extended after 1961: http://www.cosmos-monitor.com/ca/map1961/la-palm-springs.html
Note that Legislative Route 277 was not a state highway until 1959.
Quote from: 1970_i feel alright on March 07, 2012, 09:59:38 PM
As a side-note : I-215 (et seq.) is technically an expressway for much of its "new" portions (between CA 74 (old US 395) and I-15) ; its actual name is "Escondido Expressway".
To follow up on what NE2 said, this is all actually freeway - there haven't been any intersections on 215 since 1994.