When Jeopardy! kicks off its 38th season, there'll be not one, but two, new hosts to replace the late Alex Trebek (https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/jeopardy-will-officially-have-2-hosts-for-the-first-time-ever/ar-AANczgr?ocid=msedgntp). As it stands, the syndicated version will be hosted by Mike Richards (who was the executive producer of The Price is Right, and is now producer of this and sister show Wheel of Fortune), while the primetime spinoffs will be emceed by Mayim Bialik (the star of Blossom, The Big Bang Theory and Call Me Kat). I honestly didn't think the show would pull this off, but I'm relieved to know that at least I won't have to see Aaron Rodgers again (because, speaking as a Bears fan, anything associated with the green and gold makes my stomach turn). Plus, many other shows have had two different hosts at the same time (Price, Wheel, Card Sharks, Pyramid, etc.), so this will be nothing new. What do we think of it?
Yay. The two they picked are a guy with sexual harassment allegations and an anti-vaxxer. The definition of geniuses to host a show for geniuses.
Chris
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 12, 2021, 10:58:29 AM
Yay. The two they picked are a guy with sexual harassment allegations and an anti-vaxxer. The definition of geniuses to host a show for geniuses.
Chris
I've heard about the allegations but not the anti-vax one, guess I won't be really watching
Quote from: kevinb1994 on August 12, 2021, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 12, 2021, 10:58:29 AM
Yay. The two they picked are a guy with sexual harassment allegations and an anti-vaxxer. The definition of geniuses to host a show for geniuses.
Chris
I've heard about the allegations but not the anti-vax one, guess I won't be really watching
Mayim Bialik has made a lot of rather stupid and controversial statements over the years, although she actually is
not an anti-vaxxer (indeed, she is vaccinated). However, she is a lot like Dr. Oz in that she shills various "supplements" for brain health despite being a neuroscientist, and she's ruffled a lot of feathers with statements about dressing modestly and blaming rape victims for getting raped because of what they might have been wearing.
It's not a good combination in any respect. Mike Richards always planned to hire himself (he just needed Sony's blessing), and the only reasons he hired Mayim Bialik to host specials were to pay lip service to Alex Trebek's final wishes (he had hoped to be replaced by a woman or a person of color) and to fight off the allegation that the guest host carousel was entirely pointless. There were far better candidates, including Buzzy Cohen, David Faber, and Robin Roberts.
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Quote from: jayhawkco on August 12, 2021, 10:58:29 AM
Yay. The two they picked are a guy with sexual harassment allegations and an anti-vaxxer. The definition of geniuses to host a show for geniuses.
Chris
I've heard about the allegations but not the anti-vax one, guess I won't be really watching
Mayim Bialik has made a lot of rather stupid and controversial statements over the years, although she actually is not an anti-vaxxer (indeed, she is vaccinated). However, she is a lot like Dr. Oz in that she shills various "supplements" for brain health despite being a neuroscientist, and she's ruffled a lot of feathers with statements about dressing modestly and blaming rape victims for getting raped because of what they might have been wearing.
It's not a good combination in any respect. Mike Richards always planned to hire himself (he just needed Sony's blessing), and the only reasons he hired Mayim Bialik to host specials were to pay lip service to Alex Trebek's final wishes (he had hoped to be replaced by a woman or a person of color) and to fight off the allegation that the guest host carousel was entirely pointless. There were far better candidates, including Buzzy Cohen, David Faber, and Robin Roberts.
Ooh okay. Well, I didn't know much about her, if anything. Thanks. Mike Richards sure "˜played the game' here.
No, not a good one at all.
Just thank God it wasn't LeVar Burton. After he begged people to lobby for him before seeing him on there, and then watch him be the worst of the parade of guest hosts, really put me off.
If people don't like Bialik because of the pseudo-science stuff (and I agree with the very legitimate concerns about that), count your lucky stars it wasn't "Doctor" Oz.
Could have been worse, could have been better.
I've been pleasantly surprised with Joe Buck so far.
Quote from: SectorZ on August 12, 2021, 11:10:15 AM
Just thank God it wasn't LeVar Burton. After he begged people to lobby for him before seeing him on there, and then watch him be the worst of the parade of guest hosts, really put me off.
If people don't like Bialik because of the pseudo-science stuff (and I agree with the very legitimate concerns about that), count your lucky stars it wasn't "Doctor" Oz.
I didn't know about his lobbying, so no comment. Yes, we should be thankful for that.
Quote from: Takumi on August 12, 2021, 11:11:33 AM
Could have been worse, could have been better.
I've been pleasantly surprised with Joe Buck so far.
Heh. If he moves from the sports realm to Jeopardy, all the better.
Not getting into the various political social moral opinions of either individual.
The thing about Jeopardy is it skews REALLY OLD. The drive by media take on TV ratings and such is always that it is all about the 18-35 demo. Not so. Yes, MOST advertisers like that demo, but remember that 9th grade drop out Del Webb died a billionaire selling a product that you had to be at least 55 to buy. Other demos have advertisers that want access to them, and the Jeopardy - WOF suite delivers that demo and even has a "halo effect" on programs on that channel near in time (often the local news).
So they go with a reasonably good looking and not too young personable guy for the main gig, and a solid B list female for the specials. Solid.
I haven't read up on the external reasons why these two might not make good hosts, but I watched at least 3 of every guest hosts episodes and those two were far and above the best.
There's a fine line between being way too chill (Aaron Rodgers) and way too excitable (Joe Buck) and Richards and Bialik hit the sweet spot very well.
Quote from: SP Cook on August 12, 2021, 11:18:09 AM
Not getting into the various political social moral opinions of either individual.
The thing about Jeopardy is it skews REALLY OLD. The drive by media take on TV ratings and such is always that it is all about the 18-35 demo. Not so. Yes, MOST advertisers like that demo, but remember that 9th grade drop out Del Webb died a billionaire selling a product that you had to be at least 55 to buy. Other demos have advertisers that want access to them, and the Jeopardy - WOF suite delivers that demo and even has a "halo effect" on programs on that channel near in time (often the local news).
So they go with a reasonably good looking and not too young personable guy for the main gig, and a solid B list female for the specials. Solid.
Jeopardy doesn't really skew that old, not nearly as old as Wheel of Fortune. I know lots of people who have been watching Jeopardy since childhood.
As for targeted demographics, syndicated shows, which run anywhere between 9am and 8pm in the various local markets, have always trended older than primetime and late night shows, airing between 7pm to 12:30 am.
As more and more of the workforce works from home, this may change the demographics of the syndicated shows so we'll see how that plays out.
Quote from: cabiness42 on August 12, 2021, 11:22:01 AM
I haven't read up on the external reasons why these two might not make good hosts, but I watched at least 3 of every guest hosts episodes and those two were far and above the best.
There's a fine line between being way too chill (Aaron Rodgers) and way too excitable (Joe Buck) and Richards and Bialik hit the sweet spot very well.
You used Joe Buck as the poster child for way too excitable when LeVar Burton went full Chris Evans Top Gear (https://youtu.be/gNIvpmPdCYE) mode.
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Quote from: cabiness42 on August 12, 2021, 11:22:01 AM
I haven't read up on the external reasons why these two might not make good hosts, but I watched at least 3 of every guest hosts episodes and those two were far and above the best.
There's a fine line between being way too chill (Aaron Rodgers) and way too excitable (Joe Buck) and Richards and Bialik hit the sweet spot very well.
You used Joe Buck as the poster child for way too excitable when LeVar Burton went full Chris Evans Top Gear (https://youtu.be/gNIvpmPdCYE) mode.
I guess because Buck is on this week I may have had some recency bias but yes, Burton would be another example.
Quote from: Takumi on August 12, 2021, 11:11:33 AM
Could have been worse, could have been better.
I've been pleasantly surprised with Joe Buck so far.
Joe Buck has been very surprisingly good. He is not the best, but he's definitely better than most of the other guest hosts.
I was on the LeVar Burton bandwagon myself, and I honestly think he could still host given more time to adapt to the role (he only had one week - which translates into one
day of filming shows), but I admit he wasn't the best.
David Faber was impressively good for someone who wasn't well known before the guest host carousel started, and he was probably my favorite of the guest hosts - he conducted himself very well and established a great rapport with the contestants, and he looked very comfortable in the role.
Buzzy Cohen injected a lot of personality into the role and would have been a great choice to capture a younger demographic. He had a ton of support on Twitter while he was hosting the Tournament of Champions.
If the Green Bay Packers decide to invest their cap space in defense for the 2022 off-season, you might see Aaron Rodgers making a debut as a guest Jeopardy host.
I hate this. The person in charge of choosing who the next host is shouldn't even be allowed to entertain the idea of hiring themselves as the host, as it's a blatant conflict of interest. (Sort of like how at my last job the person who was judging the Halloween costume contest always ended up winning somehow.) Mike Richards did a shit job as producer of The Price is Right, turning it into a series of endless gimmicks and eye-burning flashiness, such that I haven't been able to get through a whole episode of it in years. I'm not going to reward him by watching his new gig.
Of the guest hosts I saw, I enjoyed Ken Jennings and Anderson Cooper the most. I didn't take the time to watch most of them, though (don't have a TV that picks up over-the-air broadcasts, so I'd have to hunt them down on YouTube). Obviously, Anderson Cooper is busy doing something else at the moment, so that probably wasn't ever going to happen full time.
I don't know anything about Mayim Bialik, but I hated Big Bang Theory, so she's already starting in the red with me.
Great! Another boring yt man that no one asked for :). Also, I thought Mayim was clean until I clicked this thread.
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 15, 2021, 06:38:42 PM
I hate this. The person in charge of choosing who the next host is shouldn't even be allowed to entertain the idea of hiring themselves as the host, as it's a blatant conflict of interest. (Sort of like how at my last job the person who was judging the Halloween costume contest always ended up winning somehow.) Mike Richards did a shit job as producer of The Price is Right, turning it into a series of endless gimmicks and eye-burning flashiness, such that I haven't been able to get through a whole episode of it in years. I'm not going to reward him by watching his new gig.
Of the guest hosts I saw, I enjoyed Ken Jennings and Anderson Cooper the most. I didn't take the time to watch most of them, though (don't have a TV that picks up over-the-air broadcasts, so I'd have to hunt them down on YouTube). Obviously, Anderson Cooper is busy doing something else at the moment, so that probably wasn't ever going to happen full time.
My only problem with Mike Richards is--I just didn't find him interesting to watch.
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I don't know anything about Mayim Bialik, but I hated Big Bang Theory, so she's already starting in the red with me.
One of the most overrated sitcoms ever. People used to say I looked and sounded like Jim Parsons, and especially his character on the show, so thank God I went bald on top.
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I hate this. The person in charge of choosing who the next host is shouldn't even be allowed to entertain the idea of hiring themselves as the host, as it's a blatant conflict of interest. (Sort of like how at my last job the person who was judging the Halloween costume contest always ended up winning somehow.) Mike Richards did a shit job as producer of The Price is Right, turning it into a series of endless gimmicks and eye-burning flashiness, such that I haven't been able to get through a whole episode of it in years. I'm not going to reward him by watching his new gig.
Of the guest hosts I saw, I enjoyed Ken Jennings and Anderson Cooper the most. I didn't take the time to watch most of them, though (don't have a TV that picks up over-the-air broadcasts, so I'd have to hunt them down on YouTube). Obviously, Anderson Cooper is busy doing something else at the moment, so that probably wasn't ever going to happen full time.
My only problem with Mike Richards is--I just didn't find him interesting to watch.
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I don't know anything about Mayim Bialik, but I hated Big Bang Theory, so she's already starting in the red with me.
One of the most overrated sitcoms ever. People used to say I looked and sounded like Jim Parsons, and especially his character on the show, so thank God I went bald on top.
I can't stand that show because of Jim Parsons and the Sheldon character in general. It makes a mockery of people on the autism spectrum and his existence greatly offends me.
Big Bang Theory is just like all Chuck Lorre copies of Friends. You take a circle of diverse people who would not interact in real life, have them interact, and eventually start unrealistic sexual relationships, which when all possible heterosexual combinations are exhausted, is cancelled and the cycle starts again with a new show.
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 15, 2021, 06:38:42 PM
I hate this. The person in charge of choosing who the next host is shouldn't even be allowed to entertain the idea of hiring themselves as the host, as it's a blatant conflict of interest. (Sort of like how at my last job the person who was judging the Halloween costume contest always ended up winning somehow.)
I agree, and Mike Richards says he was not involved in the actual selection process. Unless you were in the room and can confirm otherwise, I have to take his word.
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I don't know anything about Mayim Bialik, but I hated Big Bang Theory, so she's already starting in the red with me.
Comments like that make no sense to me. If you don't like the show overall or don't like the performance of the hosts, that's relevant. Everything else isn't. Someone else says he wouldn't want Aaron Rodgers, not because of his performance as host, but because he has an affiliation with a sports team that has some competitive rivalry with the team of which the commenter is a fan? Mayim Bialik should be out because some disagree with her un-show-related personal opinions? Plus she's "in the red" with you because you don't like another show she was on? With that kind of judgment, I wonder which of us would pass muster for anything.
Thing is, with television, it doesn't literally matter for anything. I have only so much free time, so anything I can use to help me whittle down options for what I want to spend it on or not is helpful. I don't like either of these people so I'm going to choose not to watch them. Why do I need to be fair to them? It is not like I am personally hiring them to do a job for me, or I am moderating them on this forum, or that they'll even know whether I chose to watch their Jeopardy! episodes. They're going to get paid millions no matter what I do, so why must I waste my time doing due diligence to determine whether I'm justified or not choosing to cut them out of my free time allocation?
I don't have to take Mike Richards's word for shit. I don't know him for anything other than putting out an inferior product on The Price is Right, and I do have experience with people lying to me when they say they weren't involved in the selection process for something like that. For Mayim Bialik, I don't know her for anything other than putting out an inferior product in The Big Bang Theory. She apparently was unable to use any influence she had on the show to make it any better, and didn't walk away from it or take an Alan Smithee credit, so she apparently endorses the product they put out. Why would I expect her Jeopardy! product to be any better, then?
I am glad that the guest hosting is finally over. It is not unusual for producers of Game Shows to be the hosts also. There was Jack Barry and Chuck Barris ... both of them just as controversial as Mike Richards.
It is also not uncommon for Game Shows to have multiple versions made simultaneously, and a different host for each of them.
Despite Jeopardy's efforts to bring back successful traditions, I am indifferent to any thing that happens on Jeopardy! be cause I have been for very long time.
To attract younger audience, they must do what they did with The All New Jeopardy! and bring back the Gold Screens With Harp Music instead of the Blue Screens Of Death.
*Mike Richards
I thought they were talking about Kramer at first. :-P
...aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Mike Richards quit.
Chris
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 20, 2021, 10:13:03 AM
...aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Mike Richards quit.
Chris
That didn't take long.
Now the guest-host charade continues, which is just starting to get a little old.
Quote from: SectorZ on August 20, 2021, 10:26:06 AM
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 20, 2021, 10:13:03 AM
...aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Mike Richards quit.
Chris
That didn't take long.
Now the guest-host charade continues, which is just starting to get a little old.
Realistically they'll just go ahead and hire Mayim Bialik to be the permanent host rather than the current arrangement of just hosting specials.
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 16, 2021, 01:07:46 PM
Thing is, with television, it doesn't literally matter for anything. I have only so much free time, so anything I can use to help me whittle down options for what I want to spend it on or not is helpful. I don't like either of these people so I'm going to choose not to watch them. Why do I need to be fair to them? It is not like I am personally hiring them to do a job for me, or I am moderating them on this forum, or that they'll even know whether I chose to watch their Jeopardy! episodes. They're going to get paid millions no matter what I do, so why must I waste my time doing due diligence to determine whether I'm justified or not choosing to cut them out of my free time allocation?
I don't have to take Mike Richards's word for shit. I don't know him for anything other than putting out an inferior product on The Price is Right, and I do have experience with people lying to me when they say they weren't involved in the selection process for something like that. For Mayim Bialik, I don't know her for anything other than putting out an inferior product in The Big Bang Theory. She apparently was unable to use any influence she had on the show to make it any better, and didn't walk away from it or take an Alan Smithee credit, so she apparently endorses the product they put out. Why would I expect her Jeopardy! product to be any better, then?
The Price Is Right is going to start Season #50 this fall. In what way is the show "inferior?"
As for who hosts Jeopardy!: I just find it...interesting that no consideration was given to Alfonso Riberio. Or Brooke Burns, for that matter. It's as though no Jeopardy! producer has ever heard of Game Show Network.
So from the looks of things, rather than just have Mayim Bialik host all the episodes, they're going to start a new search for a permanent host, and continue the guest host carousel for a while. (https://thejeopardyfan.com/2021/08/mike-richards-resigns-as-jeopardy-host.html) Richards did film 5 episodes and they will air them.
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 16, 2021, 01:07:46 PM
Thing is, with television, it doesn't literally matter for anything. I have only so much free time, so anything I can use to help me whittle down options for what I want to spend it on or not is helpful. I don't like either of these people so I'm going to choose not to watch them. Why do I need to be fair to them? It is not like I am personally hiring them to do a job for me, or I am moderating them on this forum, or that they'll even know whether I chose to watch their Jeopardy! episodes. They're going to get paid millions no matter what I do, so why must I waste my time doing due diligence to determine whether I'm justified or not choosing to cut them out of my free time allocation?
I don't have to take Mike Richards's word for shit. I don't know him for anything other than putting out an inferior product on The Price is Right, and I do have experience with people lying to me when they say they weren't involved in the selection process for something like that. For Mayim Bialik, I don't know her for anything other than putting out an inferior product in The Big Bang Theory. She apparently was unable to use any influence she had on the show to make it any better, and didn't walk away from it or take an Alan Smithee credit, so she apparently endorses the product they put out. Why would I expect her Jeopardy! product to be any better, then?
You not liking a show does not equal it being an inferior product.
FWIW, they may as well go the Drew Carey route and hire someone who did not audition for the role, while throwing millions at them just to take the gig...and I wouldn't be surprised if it came to that.
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 20, 2021, 10:13:03 AM
...aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Mike Richards quit.
Chris
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Should we alert Al Yankovic ?
Richards should have never even been in consideration anyway.
https://www.theringer.com/tv/2021/8/18/22631299/mike-richards-jeopardy-host-search-process-past-comments
Quote from: US 89 on August 20, 2021, 05:47:42 PM
Richards should have never even been in consideration anyway.
https://www.theringer.com/tv/2021/8/18/22631299/mike-richards-jeopardy-host-search-process-past-comments
He shouldn't have been part of the group doing the search, but unfortunately he is the executive producer and was in prime position to hire himself. He will still be involved in the search for a new new host so hopefully he doesn't push a subpar candidate in order to sabotage the show.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 20, 2021, 11:15:07 AM
You not liking a show does not equal it being an inferior product.
Other people liking it does not equal it being a superior product, either. Or does it...?
Oh great, now we're getting into the philosophical question of objective beauty...
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Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 20, 2021, 11:15:07 AM
You not liking a show does not equal it being an inferior product.
Other people liking it does not equal it being a superior product, either. Or does it...?
Oh great, now we're getting into the philosophical question of objective beauty...
How many people here liked "Friends", which I didn't like?
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Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 20, 2021, 11:15:07 AM
You not liking a show does not equal it being an inferior product.
Other people liking it does not equal it being a superior product, either. Or does it...?
Oh great, now we're getting into the philosophical question of objective beauty...
How many people here liked "Friends", which I didn't like?
I hated it and don't understand what my wife sees in it.
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Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 20, 2021, 11:15:07 AM
You not liking a show does not equal it being an inferior product.
Other people liking it does not equal it being a superior product, either. Or does it...?
Oh great, now we're getting into the philosophical question of objective beauty...
How many people here liked "Friends", which I didn't like?
I didn't like it either.
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Quote from: jayhawkco on August 20, 2021, 10:13:03 AM
...aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Mike Richards quit.
Chris
That didn't take long.
Now the guest-host charade continues, which is just starting to get a little old.
This is what happens when you don't just hire a member of the AARoads forum.
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Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 20, 2021, 11:15:07 AM
You not liking a show does not equal it being an inferior product.
Other people liking it does not equal it being a superior product, either. Or does it...?
Oh great, now we're getting into the philosophical question of objective beauty...
How many people here liked "Friends", which I didn't like?
I hated it and don't understand what my wife sees in it.
I like it, although I didn't watch it until it started appearing on Nick At Nite.
Quote from: empirestate on August 20, 2021, 10:28:03 PM
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Quote from: jayhawkco on August 20, 2021, 10:13:03 AM
...aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Mike Richards quit.
Chris
That didn't take long.
Now the guest-host charade continues, which is just starting to get a little old.
This is what happens when you don't just hire a member of the AARoads forum.
And who would you have in mind for such a task?
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Quote from: jayhawkco on August 20, 2021, 10:13:03 AM
...aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Mike Richards quit.
Chris
That didn't take long.
Now the guest-host charade continues, which is just starting to get a little old.
This is what happens when you don't just hire a member of the AARoads forum.
And who would you have in mind for such a task?
NE2 obviously.
If he's not interested, then this guy would be a good choice: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1285
As for The Price is Right–the show used to have a grandeur to it that it no longer has. That sounds like hyperbole, but I can't really concisely put it into any words but that. The show is an institution that is about to start taping Season 50–but changes over the last ten years make it feel like a cheap copy of that institution, like when an old baseball stadium is torn down and replaced with a modern stadium that is just like every other stadium in every other city.
Probably the best example of this is the music played throughout the show. Price debuted in the 1970s, and it very much showed by the instrumentation of the music it used for its first 36 seasons–lots of brass, funk guitar, heavy basslines. The primary composer during this period was Edd Kalehoff, but other composers like Robert Israel did similar music cues in the same style. These cues were commissioned for Price specifically, and were a major part of the show–"It's a new car!" and then you're hit with a wall of brass (https://youtu.be/Th7hpbTdjAM?t=33) that plays as the contestant reacts and the announcer describes all the features of the car. These cues were periodically remixed, recut, and rearranged to update them. However, when Mike Richards took over, he ordered all of the music replaced with stock music in an attempt to "modernize" the show. As a result, the familiar tunes are replaced with unfamiliar–well, I'm not sure you can call them tunes at all; they're generic forgettable music that you might expect to be played in the background of a commercial.
Another issue is with the set design, which Richards also ordered "modernized". As an example, here's a picture of the Card Game set from Season 37:
(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-01/24/15/enhanced/webdr02/original-9701-1422129634-14.jpg?downsize=900:*&output-format=auto&output-quality=auto)
Not the most impressive thing ever, but the green-and-brown color scheme evokes a card table at a casino and allows the focus to be on the contestant, the host, and the information relevant to the game being played.
This is what happened after Mike Richards got involved:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvignette3.wikia.nocookie.net%2Fpriceisright%2Fimages%2F2%2F2b%2FCard_Game_2014_06.jpg%2Frevision%2Flatest%3Fcb%3D20140514223534&hash=0af3e7a00172163b227ce49c7111bdc9b912ef3c)
I mean, it's definitely a lot more card game themed. But the design is a lot more visually cluttered, making it a lot harder to easily pick out the information needed to keep track of the state of the game. That card underneath the display showing the $3,000 window that the contestant must be in to win the game is a lot harder to read than the $1,000 card on the previous example. Also, the display is now a LCD screen that displays a distracting card-dealing animation each time the price updates (the old dot-matrix eggcrate display simply changed with a "ding" from the sound effects crew). The set as a whole is distracting now–lots of lights changing colors and flashing and even video screens in the background that display animations. All of that motion makes it a lot harder to keep focus on Drew Carey and the contestants playing the actual game.
tldr: Mike Richards got rid of button copy
I keep wanting to say they should ask Will Ferrell, but he's probably too busy making movies.
Darrell Hammond (who played Sean Connery), on the other hand, might be able to fit it into his schedule.
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Quote from: jayhawkco on August 20, 2021, 10:13:03 AM
...aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Mike Richards quit.
Chris
That didn't take long.
Now the guest-host charade continues, which is just starting to get a little old.
This is what happens when you don't just hire a member of the AARoads forum.
And who would you have in mind for such a task?
NE2 obviously.
If he's not interested, then this guy would be a good choice: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1285
Didn't he reject the role, or they decided against him?
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Quote from: US 89 on August 20, 2021, 05:47:42 PM
Richards should have never even been in consideration anyway.
https://www.theringer.com/tv/2021/8/18/22631299/mike-richards-jeopardy-host-search-process-past-comments
He shouldn't have been part of the group doing the search, but unfortunately he is the executive producer and was in prime position to hire himself. He will still be involved in the search for a new new host so hopefully he doesn't push a subpar candidate in order to sabotage the show.
I'm hearing speculation that it may be less about Richards being an egomaniac, and more about Sony suits bringing him in to be a yes-man for a previously autonomous show. But they didn't realize how badly this would all go over.
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...aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Mike Richards quit.
Chris
That didn't take long.
Now the guest-host charade continues, which is just starting to get a little old.
This is what happens when you don't just hire a member of the AARoads forum.
And who would you have in mind for such a task?
NE2 obviously.
If he's not interested, then this guy would be a good choice: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1285
Have you asked if he's interested? ;)
Quote from: Ned Weasel on August 21, 2021, 06:11:29 AM
I keep wanting to say they should ask Will Ferrell, but he's probably too busy making movies.
Darrell Hammond (who played Sean Connery), on the other hand, might be able to fit it into his schedule.
Hard-to-swallow pill: Will Ferrell's Trebek wasn't a good impersonation at all. He was just a hilarious straight man to Norm Macdonald's
Turd Ferguson Burt Reynolds, Hammond's Connery, et al.
Hammond would be a good host, actually.
So would Richard Hammond, actually, but he's got other stuff going on.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 21, 2021, 09:07:31 AM
Didn't he reject the role, or they decided against him?
Decided against, by all accounts (to whatever extent there was a real decision rather than just a shoo-in for Richards). Ken has been quoted as saying he's "disappointed".
To my mind, I was really interested in the prospect of Ken as the host after his quick and devilish banter during the GOAT Tournament. This was toned down a bit for his actual hosting stint, but I think a good balance would ultimately have been found. And if you read his first book, he really embodies the spirit of the game for its own sake in a way that makes for a perfect continuity to Alex Trebek's legacy (and that, frankly, is what gave him the edge to beat out James Holzhauer for that "final" championship).
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Quote from: Ned Weasel on August 21, 2021, 06:11:29 AM
I keep wanting to say they should ask Will Ferrell, but he's probably too busy making movies.
Darrell Hammond (who played Sean Connery), on the other hand, might be able to fit it into his schedule.
Hard-to-swallow pill: Will Ferrell's Trebek wasn't a good impersonation at all. He was just a hilarious straight man to Norm Macdonald's Turd Ferguson Burt Reynolds, Hammond's Connery, et al.
Hammond would be a good host, actually.
So would Richard Hammond, actually, but he's got other stuff going on.
Trebek himself preferred Eugene Levy's sendup of him on SCTV
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 21, 2021, 01:56:27 AM
As for The Price is Right–the show used to have a grandeur to it that it no longer has. That sounds like hyperbole, but I can't really concisely put it into any words but that. The show is an institution that is about to start taping Season 50–but changes over the last ten years make it feel like a cheap copy of that institution, like when an old baseball stadium is torn down and replaced with a modern stadium that is just like every other stadium in every other city.
Probably the best example of this is the music played throughout the show. Price debuted in the 1970s, and it very much showed by the instrumentation of the music it used for its first 36 seasons–lots of brass, funk guitar, heavy basslines. The primary composer during this period was Edd Kalehoff, but other composers like Robert Israel did similar music cues in the same style. These cues were commissioned for Price specifically, and were a major part of the show–"It's a new car!" and then you're hit with a wall of brass (https://youtu.be/Th7hpbTdjAM?t=33) that plays as the contestant reacts and the announcer describes all the features of the car. These cues were periodically remixed, recut, and rearranged to update them. However, when Mike Richards took over, he ordered all of the music replaced with stock music in an attempt to "modernize" the show. As a result, the familiar tunes are replaced with unfamiliar–well, I'm not sure you can call them tunes at all; they're generic forgettable music that you might expect to be played in the background of a commercial.
Another issue is with the set design, which Richards also ordered "modernized". As an example, here's a picture of the Card Game set from Season 37:
(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-01/24/15/enhanced/webdr02/original-9701-1422129634-14.jpg?downsize=900:*&output-format=auto&output-quality=auto)
Not the most impressive thing ever, but the green-and-brown color scheme evokes a card table at a casino and allows the focus to be on the contestant, the host, and the information relevant to the game being played.
This is what happened after Mike Richards got involved:
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I mean, it's definitely a lot more card game themed. But the design is a lot more visually cluttered, making it a lot harder to easily pick out the information needed to keep track of the state of the game. That card underneath the display showing the $3,000 window that the contestant must be in to win the game is a lot harder to read than the $1,000 card on the previous example. Also, the display is now a LCD screen that displays a distracting card-dealing animation each time the price updates (the old dot-matrix eggcrate display simply changed with a "ding" from the sound effects crew). The set as a whole is distracting now–lots of lights changing colors and flashing and even video screens in the background that display animations. All of that motion makes it a lot harder to keep focus on Drew Carey and the contestants playing the actual game.
tldr: Mike Richards got rid of button copy
In other words, Richards changed everything but the mistreatment of the female staff.
Quote from: SectorZ on August 21, 2021, 01:26:28 PM
In other words, Richards changed everything but the mistreatment of the female staff.
Right, and arguably what Richards did is no worse than what previous TPIR executive producers have done in the role; he isn't accused of outright having affairs with the models like Bob Barker was with Dian Parkinson.
Also, I want to make clear that I don't necessarily advocate for TPIR to be exactly like 90s TPIR was, just with Drew Carey as host (though that would be awesome). Many of the show's set pieces were clearly showing their age after 37 years of use, and clearly needed replacement (especially since HD television was invented). I just feel like the updates that happened during Richards' tenure were poorly executed.
Mike Richards is no longer executive producer.
https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/mike-richards-out-executive-producer-jeopardy-wheel-fortune-n1278152 (https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/mike-richards-out-executive-producer-jeopardy-wheel-fortune-n1278152)
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Mike Richards is no longer executive producer.
https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/mike-richards-out-executive-producer-jeopardy-wheel-fortune-n1278152 (https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/mike-richards-out-executive-producer-jeopardy-wheel-fortune-n1278152)
It's so funny when you think about it. He could have happily continued being the ex. producer but he pretended his importance was much more valuable than it actually was.
At this point I'd be happy with them killing off Jeopardy. This shitshow has probably ruined it for me. They're going to find something to be offended about with EVERY potential host they find. They'll probably pick then cancel LeVar Burton because he used the n-word in a movie once 45 years ago.
Clue: He is the ultimate gameshow cancer.
Who is Mike Richards?
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Quote from: LM117 on September 01, 2021, 09:09:58 AM
Mike Richards is no longer executive producer.
https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/mike-richards-out-executive-producer-jeopardy-wheel-fortune-n1278152 (https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/mike-richards-out-executive-producer-jeopardy-wheel-fortune-n1278152)
It's so funny when you think about it. He could have happily continued being the ex. producer but he pretended his importance was much more valuable than it actually was.
At this point I'd be happy with them killing off Jeopardy. This shitshow has probably ruined it for me. They're going to find something to be offended about with EVERY potential host they find. They'll probably pick then cancel LeVar Burton because he used the n-word in a movie once 45 years ago.
The show now is all about a gimmick of a guest host revolving door. Alex Trebek is rolling in his grave.
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Quote from: LM117 on September 01, 2021, 09:09:58 AM
Mike Richards is no longer executive producer.
https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/mike-richards-out-executive-producer-jeopardy-wheel-fortune-n1278152 (https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/mike-richards-out-executive-producer-jeopardy-wheel-fortune-n1278152)
It's so funny when you think about it. He could have happily continued being the ex. producer but he pretended his importance was much more valuable than it actually was.
At this point I'd be happy with them killing off Jeopardy. This shitshow has probably ruined it for me. They're going to find something to be offended about with EVERY potential host they find. They'll probably pick then cancel LeVar Burton because he used the n-word in a movie once 45 years ago.
The show now is all about a gimmick of a guest host revolving door. Alex Trebek is rolling in his grave.
Yep, it's become a parody of itself. This is the kind of thing Alex wanted the show to avoid once he knew his days were numbered. We see how that's going.
I would add one point of caution from the Mike Richards story. Have you or I ever posted anything here that could be construed in a way that would make our lives living hell years later? We actually tried to judge a Supreme Court Nominee on what may or may not have happened at a fraternity party thirty years ago. While there was video evidence of part of Richards' misdeeds and a settlement of a lawsuit which may or may not have had merit. Would you want your past lives under a microscope like this.
Context means a lot. I remember in the early days of email. I sent a friend an email their purity filter rejected it because the word HELL was in it. The sentence noted a sHELL station. In a discussion a week or so later, he noted you also couldn't reply to Richard as Dick.
Something as simple as talking about a young woman being pretty can be attacked for being misogynistic, sexist, discriminatory. Maybe what Mike Richards did was egregious enough to warrant his firing, but what was the cultural expectation just a few years previous to the actions?
Just saying.....
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sHELL station
Burned out letter
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From https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/06/27/shell-sign-cambridge-massachusetts-neon-hell-sign-photo/, although it appears elsewhere, too
Quote from: bwana39 on September 03, 2021, 08:33:58 AM
Something as simple as talking about a young woman being pretty can be attacked for being misogynistic, sexist, discriminatory. Maybe what Mike Richards did was egregious enough to warrant his firing, but what was the cultural expectation just a few years previous to the actions?
And what is the cultural expectation now? I would say that how one accounts for the
change in context when examining past actions is more important than the actions themselves. Richards' statement in stepping down was noteworthy for its lack of addressing this–he cited only the difficulty it would cause the production if he were to remain.
Quote from: US71 on August 20, 2021, 04:36:05 PM
Should we alert Al Yankovic ?
Indeed, Weird Al did so well in Jeopardy! ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvUZijEuNDQ
Quote from: bwana39 on September 03, 2021, 08:33:58 AM
Something as simple as talking about a young woman being pretty can be attacked for being misogynistic, sexist, discriminatory. Maybe what Mike Richards did was egregious enough to warrant his firing, but what was the cultural expectation just a few years previous to the actions?
With all things that could possibly offend people, the answer is always "know your audience". You're not going to get fired from your job for asking out a co-worker who is clearly interested in you. You get labeled with "creepy" when you do it to a woman who is clearly not interested in you and do it persistently.
Chris
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Quote from: bwana39 on September 03, 2021, 08:33:58 AM
Something as simple as talking about a young woman being pretty can be attacked for being misogynistic, sexist, discriminatory. Maybe what Mike Richards did was egregious enough to warrant his firing, but what was the cultural expectation just a few years previous to the actions?
With all things that could possibly offend people, the answer is always "know your audience". You're not going to get fired from your job for asking out a co-worker who is clearly interested in you.
You might, if it violates company policy to date co-workers at all. (The company I currently work for forbids supervisors dating those they overlook.)
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Should we alert Al Yankovic ?
Indeed, Weird Al did so well in Jeopardy! ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvUZijEuNDQ
Reminds me of when the line about getting the Daily Double was the Daily Double:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxpH6BX4YpU
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Quote from: bwana39 on September 03, 2021, 08:33:58 AM
Something as simple as talking about a young woman being pretty can be attacked for being misogynistic, sexist, discriminatory. Maybe what Mike Richards did was egregious enough to warrant his firing, but what was the cultural expectation just a few years previous to the actions?
With all things that could possibly offend people, the answer is always "know your audience". You're not going to get fired from your job for asking out a co-worker who is clearly interested in you.
You might, if it violates company policy to date co-workers at all. (The company I currently work for forbids supervisors dating those they overlook.)
Sure. But on a peer to peer level is what I was intending.
Chris
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Quote from: bwana39 on September 03, 2021, 08:33:58 AM
Something as simple as talking about a young woman being pretty can be attacked for being misogynistic, sexist, discriminatory. Maybe what Mike Richards did was egregious enough to warrant his firing, but what was the cultural expectation just a few years previous to the actions?
And what is the cultural expectation now? I would say that how one accounts for the change in context when examining past actions is more important than the actions themselves. Richards' statement in stepping down was noteworthy for its lack of addressing this–he cited only the difficulty it would cause the production if he were to remain.
In his shoes if you admit it was wrong, it is wrong FOREVER. He basically quit because of the negative perceptions, not perhaps he thought it was wrong.
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In his shoes if you admit it was wrong, it is wrong FOREVER. He basically quit because of the negative perceptions, not perhaps he thought it was wrong.
Right, and those negative perceptions could have been mitigated somewhat by acknowledging some fault. The aspect that seals the deal, quite often, is that people forget that you have to account for how your actions are received, not only for how they're intended–if I didn't mean it to be wrong, it wasn't wrong, despite the affect it may have had on anyone else.
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Quote from: bwana39 on September 04, 2021, 11:47:25 AM
In his shoes if you admit it was wrong, it is wrong FOREVER. He basically quit because of the negative perceptions, not perhaps he thought it was wrong.
Right, and those negative perceptions could have been mitigated somewhat by acknowledging some fault. The aspect that seals the deal, quite often, is that people forget that you have to account for how your actions are received, not only for how they're intended–if I didn't mean it to be wrong, it wasn't wrong, despite the affect it may have had on anyone else.
I disagree. Being convicted by the jury of the internet is permanent. It lasts for decades. I reiterate, being guilty on the internet is only bested by confessing on the internet.
Whatever Justice Kavanaugh did or did not do back in 1985, is beside the point. Search "
Supreme Court Rapist". Unless someone can give absolute proof otherwise, it will still come up from that search in 50 years or more.
I can assure you, violations of the PC code is not assuaged by time. Violations of the PC code whether real or made up only get worse because of any sort of admission or apology. All an admission or apology would do is be picked apart syllable by syllable and dissected and each possible inconsistency or opinion would be assigned value as untrue, beside the point, or just to save face.
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Quote from: bwana39 on September 03, 2021, 08:33:58 AM
Something as simple as talking about a young woman being pretty can be attacked for being misogynistic, sexist, discriminatory. Maybe what Mike Richards did was egregious enough to warrant his firing, but what was the cultural expectation just a few years previous to the actions?
With all things that could possibly offend people, the answer is always "know your audience". You're not going to get fired from your job for asking out a co-worker who is clearly interested in you. You get labeled with "creepy" when you do it to a woman who is clearly not interested in you and do it persistently.
Chris
I can't find where this applies to Mike Richards. He may have have said some sophomoric things about women. He may have said some ageist things.
Someone leaked a tape of Mike Richards auditioning to host The Price is Right during Season 35. Of course, Drew Carey got the gig instead, but only a few years later he was hired as TPIR executive producer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoQpiQYESgE
It's sort of amazing the audience was able to summon the energy they did, given that this audition happened immediately after they had just gotten done seeing Bob Barker hosting for an hour.
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Quote from: empirestate on September 04, 2021, 04:11:30 PM
Right, and those negative perceptions could have been mitigated somewhat by acknowledging some fault.
I disagree. Being convicted by the jury of the internet is permanent. It lasts for decades. I reiterate, being guilty on the internet is only bested by confessing on the internet.
Do you mean agree? Your last sentence here seems to say the same as mine above.
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Quote from: empirestate on September 04, 2021, 04:11:30 PM
Right, and those negative perceptions could have been mitigated somewhat by acknowledging some fault.
I disagree. Being convicted by the jury of the internet is permanent. It lasts for decades. I reiterate, being guilty on the internet is only bested by confessing on the internet.
Do you mean agree? Your last sentence here seems to say the same as mine above.
Absolutely not: The only thing MORE egregious is to admit it. It doesn't mitigate anything. Being contrite just works as an admission. It ADDS a second strike.
Quote from: bwana39 on September 03, 2021, 08:33:58 AM
I would add one point of caution from the Mike Richards story. Have you or I ever posted anything here that could be construed in a way that would make our lives living hell years later? We actually tried to judge a Supreme Court Nominee on what may or may not have happened at a fraternity party thirty years ago. While there was video evidence of part of Richards' misdeeds and a settlement of a lawsuit which may or may not have had merit. Would you want your past lives under a microscope like this.
Context means a lot. I remember in the early days of email. I sent a friend an email their purity filter rejected it because the word HELL was in it. The sentence noted a sHELL station. In a discussion a week or so later, he noted you also couldn't reply to Richard as Dick.
Something as simple as talking about a young woman being pretty can be attacked for being misogynistic, sexist, discriminatory. Maybe what Mike Richards did was egregious enough to warrant his firing, but what was the cultural expectation just a few years previous to the actions?
Just saying.....
My brother was named Dick. Died unfortunately on August 15 2019. We went up to his house and now its been renovated. 😭😭
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Quote from: bwana39 on September 03, 2021, 08:33:58 AM
Something as simple as talking about a young woman being pretty can be attacked for being misogynistic, sexist, discriminatory. Maybe what Mike Richards did was egregious enough to warrant his firing, but what was the cultural expectation just a few years previous to the actions?
With all things that could possibly offend people, the answer is always "know your audience". You're not going to get fired from your job for asking out a co-worker who is clearly interested in you.
You might, if it violates company policy to date co-workers at all. (The company I currently work for forbids supervisors dating those they overlook.)
Thats the reason Pat Sijack and
his wife don't host the show 100%. Pat of course hosts it, but his wife always leaves for the word board.
EDIT: Vanna white is NOT Pat Sijack's Wife.
What are you talking about? Pat Sajak's wife doesn't appear on Wheel of Fortune, other than the one episode when Alex Trebek hosted as an April Fools' Day prank in 1997 (Sajak's wife turned the letters because the "contestants" that day were Pat Sajak and Vanna White).
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 06, 2021, 09:10:18 AM
What are you talking about? Pat Sajak's wife doesn't appear on Wheel of Fortune, other than the one episode when Alex Trebek hosted as an April Fools' Day prank in 1997 (Sajak's wife turned the letters because the "contestants" that day were Pat Sajak and Vanna White).
ohh, i stand corrected. I thought vanna white was his wife. 😳😳 :colorful:
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Quote from: empirestate on September 04, 2021, 04:11:30 PM
Right, and those negative perceptions could have been mitigated somewhat by acknowledging some fault.
I disagree. Being convicted by the jury of the internet is permanent. It lasts for decades. I reiterate, being guilty on the internet is only bested by confessing on the internet.
Do you mean agree? Your last sentence here seems to say the same as mine above.
Absolutely not: The only thing MORE egregious is to admit it. It doesn't mitigate anything. Being contrite just works as an admission. It ADDS a second strike.
Hmm, no, that's not what I've observed. Many people commented on the lack of contrition in Richards' statement. Had he included it, those comments, that strike against him, would have been mitigated.
Now in his case, would it have changed the outcome? Doubtful, since the backlash against him was already in place from other factors before the podcast comments were reported. But the perceptions could have been mitigated–for example, by remaining at the existing negative level, rather than becoming more so.
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Quote from: Takumi on September 03, 2021, 12:03:18 PM
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Quote from: bwana39 on September 03, 2021, 08:33:58 AM
Something as simple as talking about a young woman being pretty can be attacked for being misogynistic, sexist, discriminatory. Maybe what Mike Richards did was egregious enough to warrant his firing, but what was the cultural expectation just a few years previous to the actions?
With all things that could possibly offend people, the answer is always "know your audience". You're not going to get fired from your job for asking out a co-worker who is clearly interested in you.
You might, if it violates company policy to date co-workers at all. (The company I currently work for forbids supervisors dating those they overlook.)
Thats the reason Pat Sijack and his wife don't host the show 100%. Pat of course hosts it, but his wife always leaves for the word board.
EDIT: Vanna white is NOT Pat Sijack's Wife.
If the rule forbidding workplace relationships had been in place in the 1980s, Bob Barker would not have dated one of the TPIR models, and Richard Dawson would not have dated (or married) a contestant on Family Feud. Ergo, there'd be less controversy and more focus on those men being the great hosts that they were.
Bob Barker had a massive ego that expressed itself in ways other than thinking with his dick, though. Rod Roddy made him mad for some reason (I think it had to do with Rod wanting a raise) so he banned Roddy and his flashy suits from regularly appearing on camera for the rest of his life. When Roddy died, the announcer-on-camera ban extended to his successor Rich Fields (who was never really allowed to show much of a personality at all). After Bob and Dian ended their affair, I believe he also refused to agree to the use of his likeness to rerun any episode that contained Dian for a good long while, which I believe was to screw her out of royalties/residuals.
Great host, awful boss.
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 06, 2021, 04:07:40 PM
Bob Barker had a massive ego that expressed itself in ways other than thinking with his dick, though. Rod Roddy made him mad for some reason (I think it had to do with Rod wanting a raise) so he banned Roddy and his flashy suits from regularly appearing on camera for the rest of his life. When Roddy died, the announcer-on-camera ban extended to his successor Rich Fields (who was never really allowed to show much of a personality at all). After Bob and Dian ended their affair, I believe he also refused to agree to the use of his likeness to rerun any episode that contained Dian for a good long while, which I believe was to screw her out of royalties/residuals.
Great host, awful boss.
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And they got a 2nd round. ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnurf8ZtV-E
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 06, 2021, 09:10:18 AM
What are you talking about? Pat Sajak's wife doesn't appear on Wheel of Fortune, other than the one episode when Alex Trebek hosted as an April Fools' Day prank in 1997 (Sajak's wife turned the letters because the "contestants" that day were Pat Sajak and Vanna White).
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/wheel-of-fortune-fans-sound-off-about-the-show-s-changes/ar-AAOqo5t?ocid=winp1taskbar (https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/wheel-of-fortune-fans-sound-off-about-the-show-s-changes/ar-AAOqo5t?ocid=winp1taskbar)
QuoteWheel of Fortune returned for its 39th season on Monday evening with a new snazzy look and some updates to the gameplay, and it certainly got fans talking.
These changes included a bright and colorful new studio set, increased screen time for the show's announcer Jim Thornton, and, perhaps most controversial of all, updated music.
"Can you believe this is Season 39? It's incredible," said host Pat Sajak to open the show. "You'll notice some changes in the studio. I thought I caught a glimpse of that Thornton guy on the way out. A few little tweaks in the game, but it's still Wheel of Fortune. We're gonna have a great time. Let's get to it."
One of the big gameplay changes involves the final spin of the wheel, which has always been done by Sajak himself. However, the power has now been handed over to the contestants. "The final spin goes to whoever has control of the wheel," Sajak explained in the episode.
These updates come after the show's executive producer Mike Richards exited his role last month following public backlash. The changes also mark Sajak's new position as consulting producer on the show – a stipulation that was added as part of the long-running host's contract renewal that will keep him and hostess Vanna White on the show through 2024.
"If you think about it, by doing the "˜final spin' I, as host, had an impact on the outcome of the game, and that has always bothered me because it just didn't feel right," Sajak told Deadline. "With this change, only the contestants determine the outcome of the game and the host does not impose themself in any way."
:crazy:
Quote from: snowc on September 14, 2021, 04:55:59 PM
"If you think about it, by doing the "˜final spin' I, as host, had an impact on the outcome of the game, and that has always bothered me because it just didn't feel right," Sajak told Deadline. "With this change, only the contestants determine the outcome of the game and the host does not impose themself in any way."
I realized long ago that a contestant with a sizable lead benefits from a low number of the final spin and the trailing contestants benefit from a higher number. It never occurred to me that the host might try to manipulate the final spin to favor one or the other.
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Quote from: cabiness42 on September 14, 2021, 05:36:12 PM
Quote from: snowc on September 14, 2021, 04:55:59 PM
"If you think about it, by doing the "˜final spin' I, as host, had an impact on the outcome of the game, and that has always bothered me because it just didn't feel right," Sajak told Deadline. "With this change, only the contestants determine the outcome of the game and the host does not impose themself in any way."
I realized long ago that a contestant with a sizable lead benefits from a low number of the final spin and the trailing contestants benefit from a higher number. It never occurred to me that the host might try to manipulate the final spin to favor one or the other.
:crazy:
I believe the host aims for the $5,000 space regardless of the players' scores.
Quote from: 1 on September 14, 2021, 06:01:08 PM
I believe the host aims for the $5,000 space regardless of the players' scores.
And Sajak was good enough at it that he hit $5,000 more often than average. Which makes sense, considering he's probably spun that particular wheel more often than any other person alive (other than maybe a few PAs). The producers, at least during the Friedman era, didn't mind, as the increased stakes made the game more exciting, even though it cost them more money.
But Sajak is probably right when he says it's fairer for the host to have no influence over the game.
The new season began with the rededication of the J! stage as the Alex Trebek Studio. Fitting tribute to the man most associated with the show, even though he wasn't the first host.
It's kind of coincidental that this and the Bob Barker Studio (where TPIR tapes) are named in honor of the men who hosted their respective shows for a very long time and thus are icons for those shows, and yet neither one was the first to do it (Art Fleming and Bill Cullen hold that distinction).
Quote from: Henry on September 15, 2021, 09:38:01 AM
The new season began with the rededication of the J! stage as the Alex Trebek Studio. Fitting tribute to the man most associated with the show, even though he wasn't the first host.
It's kind of coincidental that this and the Bob Barker Studio (where TPIR tapes) are named in honor of the men who hosted their respective shows for a very long time and thus are icons for those shows, and yet neither one was the first to do it (Art Fleming and Bill Cullen hold that distinction).
Johnny Carson wasn't the first to host the Tonight Show either, but he's the first one that comes to mind.
Quote from: cabiness42 on September 15, 2021, 09:53:33 AM
Quote from: Henry on September 15, 2021, 09:38:01 AM
The new season began with the rededication of the J! stage as the Alex Trebek Studio. Fitting tribute to the man most associated with the show, even though he wasn't the first host.
It's kind of coincidental that this and the Bob Barker Studio (where TPIR tapes) are named in honor of the men who hosted their respective shows for a very long time and thus are icons for those shows, and yet neither one was the first to do it (Art Fleming and Bill Cullen hold that distinction).
Johnny Carson wasn't the first to host the Tonight Show either, but he's the first one that comes to mind.
Roscoe Orman was not the first to play Gordon on
Sesame Street.
"˜Jeopardy!' hosts: Mayim Bialik, Ken Jennings will finish 2021 (https://www.uppermichiganssource.com/2021/09/16/mayim-bialik-ken-jennings-host-jeopardy/). So it looks like we have an answer for now.
Good for Ken!
The irony is that Ken really didn't want the job in the first place.
Quote from: LM117 on September 16, 2021, 05:21:51 PM
The irony is that Ken really didn't want the job in the first place.
I don't know that he didn't really
want it. There's the complicating factor that he's under contract to be on
The Chase as well, which left him unable to commit to
Jeopardy! full-time.
A member on golden-road.net (the
TPIR fan forum) said they saw him speak in North Carolina on August 28. He said during a Q&A that when it came to returning as a guest host, "I'm just waiting by the phone. If they call, I'm in," while sidestepping a question about the permanent hosting spot. Doesn't really sound like someone who doesn't want the job to me. (Of course, if I'm wrong, maybe he'll log in to say so himself. :D)
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 16, 2021, 05:37:34 PM
Quote from: LM117 on September 16, 2021, 05:21:51 PM
The irony is that Ken really didn't want the job in the first place.
I don't know that he didn't really want it. There's the complicating factor that he's under contract to be on The Chase as well, which left him unable to commit to Jeopardy! full-time.
A member on golden-road.net (the TPIR fan forum) said they saw him speak in North Carolina on August 28. He said during a Q&A that when it came to returning as a guest host, "I'm just waiting by the phone. If they call, I'm in," while sidestepping a question about the permanent hosting spot. Doesn't really sound like someone who doesn't want the job to me. (Of course, if I'm wrong, maybe he'll log in to say so himself. :D)
I guess he changed his mind, since he initially said that he didn't want to do it.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2021/09/16/mayim-bialik-ken-jennings-host-jeopardy-rest-2021/8363223002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2021/09/16/mayim-bialik-ken-jennings-host-jeopardy-rest-2021/8363223002/)
QuoteJennings previously told USA TODAY that he didn't want to take over as host, because "it means we don't get Alex."
He added: "It's just sad for me to go out there, in a way, because I know that, like the audience, I wish it was Alex walking out at the top of the show."
That said, I have no complaints about him hosting. :nod:
He received good reviews as host. I preferred either Ken or LeVar.
Quote from: GCrites80s on September 16, 2021, 09:16:49 PM
He received good reviews as host. I preferred either Ken or LeVar.
Same here! They both did a great job. I think Anderson Cooper did a great job as well, but let's be honest, he's not quitting his day job anytime soon.
Quote from: GCrites80s on September 16, 2021, 09:16:49 PM
He received good reviews as host. I preferred either Ken or LeVar.
I thought LeVar got way too excited at contestant's right answers. Something he could fix no doubt, but it made his episodes hard to watch for me. Same for Joe Buck, but then he's not a likeable guy to begin with.
Quote from: cabiness42 on September 17, 2021, 11:19:08 AM
Quote from: GCrites80s on September 16, 2021, 09:16:49 PM
He received good reviews as host. I preferred either Ken or LeVar.
I thought LeVar got way too excited at contestant's right answers. Something he could fix no doubt, but it made his episodes hard to watch for me. Same for Joe Buck, but then he's not a likeable guy to begin with.
Yeah, that's a valid point on LeVar, but I think in time he'd be able to tone that down, and would be a great host.
Mayim would've been my choice for day to day, but it'll be cool to see her on the primetime specials.
While we're debating the next host(s), how about the current champ? Now 3rd all time in wins and money won in non-tournament games. He definitely paid attention to James Holzhauer's strategy of going for the big money clues first.
While I don't have the chops to beat most contestants in trivia knowledge, I could school most of them in the game theory needed to win.
Quote from: cabiness42 on September 17, 2021, 11:32:44 AM
While we're debating the next host(s), how about the current champ? Now 3rd all time in wins and money won in non-tournament games. He definitely paid attention to James Holzhauer's strategy of going for the big money clues first.
While I don't have the chops to beat most contestants in trivia knowledge, I could school most of them in the game theory needed to win.
He's certainly on a hot streak. He also seems to find the Daily Doubles and usually goes pretty big on them, which often leads to the game being a runaway.
Quote from: OCGuy81 on September 17, 2021, 11:42:07 AM
Quote from: cabiness42 on September 17, 2021, 11:32:44 AM
While we're debating the next host(s), how about the current champ? Now 3rd all time in wins and money won in non-tournament games. He definitely paid attention to James Holzhauer's strategy of going for the big money clues first.
While I don't have the chops to beat most contestants in trivia knowledge, I could school most of them in the game theory needed to win.
He's certainly on a hot streak. He also seems to find the Daily Doubles and usually goes pretty big on them, which often leads to the game being a runaway.
The Daily Doubles are in the bottom 2 rows 2/3 of the time. He goes after the bottom row first, and then the 4th row. It's 100% the best strategy.
I've also noticed that champions, especially long-time ones, have an advantage in the first several clues as the challengers are still figuring out the timing of when to buzz in, so it makes sense to go after the most money possible right at the beginning.
Even if it's one of your worst categories, you should hit the high dollar values in them until you find the daily double, as you can always risk and lose a small amount, which is better than an opponent finding it and doubling up.
Quote from: LM117 on September 16, 2021, 05:46:51 PM
I guess he changed his mind, since he initially said that he didn't want to do it.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2021/09/16/mayim-bialik-ken-jennings-host-jeopardy-rest-2021/8363223002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2021/09/16/mayim-bialik-ken-jennings-host-jeopardy-rest-2021/8363223002/)
QuoteJennings previously told USA TODAY that he didn't want to take over as host, because "it means we don't get Alex."
He added: "It's just sad for me to go out there, in a way, because I know that, like the audience, I wish it was Alex walking out at the top of the show."
I don't think I'd take that quote to literally mean he didn't want to do it, just that it would be a bittersweet circumstance.
Quote from: OCGuy81 on September 17, 2021, 11:29:17 AM
Yeah, that's a valid point on LeVar, but I think in time he'd be able to tone that down, and would be a great host.
I didn't see his full week, only the first, very rough couple of shows. But still, the whole week is only a single day's work, which I don't think can ever be conclusive as to how well someone could do given more experience at it.
Quote from: cabiness42 on September 17, 2021, 11:19:08 AM
Quote from: GCrites80s on September 16, 2021, 09:16:49 PM
He received good reviews as host. I preferred either Ken or LeVar.
I thought LeVar got way too excited at contestant's right answers. Something he could fix no doubt, but it made his episodes hard to watch for me. Same for Joe Buck, but then he's not a likeable guy to begin with.
I actually enjoyed Joe Buck's episodes and thought he was pretty funny at times.
Mayim Bialik is out! :clap:
https://twitter.com/missmayim/status/1735814025001509226 (https://twitter.com/missmayim/status/1735814025001509226)
Best jeopardy host ever? Will Farrell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zq3KCBed5Q