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Started by Chris, January 28, 2009, 10:42:52 AM

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Quote from: 74/171FAN on March 14, 2024, 02:41:21 PMIn regard to the GA 407 LOOP posting I saw during the Atlanta Meet, that seems to be rogue signage, the Georgia DOT local map I found does not show a GA 407 LOOP here (see Page 2) so I am sure it is long gone.

It's the hidden State Route number for I-285.  All the Interstates in GA have them in the 4XX range, you just don't normally see them mentioned in the field.


ran4sh

Technically only 407 is I-285. 407 Loop is a different state route that intersects 407 (I-285) at some point.
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Tom958

No news is news: The 285-400 interchange isn't finished, but construction has all but stopped. I go through there on my morning commute now (I often take a different route home) and the only work I see is on the approach slabs for the last bridge, on the ramp from WB 285 to SB 400, there are barrels lying around, most of the asphalt paving still needs its top coat, and there are at least seven signage gantries with no signage installed despite the signage having been delivered months ago. WTF, GDOT?

Also, the contractor has installed this sign in the wrong place. It belongs on a new gantry that's been erected on the far side of the bridge ahead. At this point, it'd probably be easier to fix both signs with overlays than to move this one. anyway, I notified my contact at GDOT, so hopefully they'll avert the obvious followup screwup.

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Quote from: Tom958 on April 17, 2024, 05:13:34 AMAlso, the contractor has installed this sign in the wrong place. It belongs on a new gantry that's been erected on the far side of the bridge ahead. At this point, it'd probably be easier to fix both signs with overlays than to move this one. Anyway, I notified my contact at GDOT, so hopefully they'll avert the obvious followup screwup.

Welp, I was wrong about overlays: this weekend, the mislocated sign was taken down and installed in its correct location. I hope they can get the correct sign installed soon; the new one is behind the Perimeter Center Parkway bridge and doesn't provide enough warning of the upcoming lane drop.

Also installed (I assume) over the weekend was badly needed overhead signage on the northbound CD between the Glenridge Connector and the 285 offramps. The signage is on a gantry that spans both the CD and the 400 mainline and it carries a sign for Abernathy Road on the mainline as well as the direly-needed 400 overhead on the CD. The Abernathy sign lacks an exit number tab; online conversation about that revealed that the exits for 400 will be renumbered, which was news to me. Here's where I'm talking about: https://maps.app.goo.gl/t7jPjhwsCtWbbkJD6


Henry

Any news on when The Stitch will be built? Last time I heard, they were hoping to get it done by 2032, but that was a long time ago.
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Tom958

Quote from: Henry on May 17, 2024, 10:50:42 PMAny news on when The Stitch will be built? Last time I heard, they were hoping to get it done by 2032, but that was a long time ago.

There's been some progress, but I forget the details. There's funding for the first segment, between Peachtree and Courtland.

https://atlanta.urbanize.city/post/downtown-stitch-first-phase-happening-right-now-images

Georgia Guardrail

Will The Stitch actually improve traffic or make things worse? 

To me it seems like it would make things worse as it would make any future necessary construction project on the Interstate more difficult to construct when you have a big tunnel as a barrier.  Not to mention this will take out several travel lanes as The Stitch is being constructed.  As if Connector traffic wasn't bad enough.

The Ghostbuster

The Stitch may be a mess while under construction, but I think it will be worth it in the end. The intention of these deck-over-the-freeway projects is to reduce the barrier caused by dividing the neighborhoods when the freeways were constructed. True, the Interstate 75/85 Downtown Connector is probably the widest freeway in the country to have a deck constructed over it to date, although the surrounding neighborhoods would likely benefit from the deck's construction.

architect77

The GA400/I-285 interchange project ($1.7B) looks damn good. Wide, generous lanes with concrete pavement, and the best looking overhead signage ever. GDOT has upped their game. This makes Georgia and Atlanta worthy of top-tier status!

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RoadWarrior56

Wonderful, I can look at beautiful signs while I am still stuck in traffic.

Tom958

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Quote from: architect77 on May 31, 2024, 03:55:12 AMThe GA400/I-285 interchange project ($1.7B) looks damn good. Wide, generous lanes with concrete pavement, and the best looking overhead signage ever. GDOT has upped their game. This makes Georgia and Atlanta worthy of top-tier status!

Seriously? All the bridges are cheap AASHTO beams and weathering steel with no attention paid to aesthetics. Florida and even dirt-poor Louisiana put us to shame. I believe there have been more signage screwups on this project than on any comparable project in history.

Tom958

Two of the eventual four express lanes are now open on the bizarre Windy Hill Road project between GA 280 South Cobb Drive and Atlanta Road in Smyrna.

https://smyrnasplost.com/windy-hill-boulevard-concept/

architect77

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Quote from: Tom958 on June 01, 2024, 12:36:09 PM
Quote from: architect77 on May 31, 2024, 03:55:12 AMThe GA400/I-285 interchange project ($1.7B) looks damn good. Wide, generous lanes with concrete pavement, and the best looking overhead signage ever. GDOT has upped their game. This makes Georgia and Atlanta worthy of top-tier status!

Seriously? All the bridges are cheap AASHTO beams and weathering steel with no attention paid to aesthetics. Florida and even dirt-poor Louisiana put us to shame. I believe there have been more signage screwups on this project than on any comparable project in history.

I used to think like this, but North Carolina, who historically did everything with high standards is also building flyovers with partial precast girders and exposed steel at the curviest section. I-440 to I-40 in Raleigh Eastbound flyover is one example.

I don't think NCDOT will ever use the brown, unfinished beams/girders for overpasses anymore. The precast versions are showing up on all new projects.

The improvements at Ga400/i-285 are substantial, and all new overhead signs/gantries are visually level. I think they are doing a good job, and I love the big fat lettering on  the large overhead signs. It commands respect.

I would like reflectors installed on the concrete barrier walls on the very long collector/distributor lanes as they can't be seen at night and thhinvise ere is the tendency/urge to move into the 5 general lanes sooner than later thus the dark barrier wall is invisible is posing a real danger without any reflectors.


Great Lakes Roads


An updated animation of the I-285 Top-End Express Lanes Visualization...
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Georgia

just glad they are putting lanes on both sides of 285 unlike the 75 lanes on either side of the metro. 

mvak36

Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on June 13, 2024, 04:09:35 PM

An updated animation of the I-285 Top-End Express Lanes Visualization...

That is very impressive. Does anyone know what the timeline of this project is?
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Quote from: mvak36 on June 14, 2024, 09:21:58 AM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on June 13, 2024, 04:09:35 PM

An updated animation of the I-285 Top-End Express Lanes Visualization...

That is very impressive. Does anyone know what the timeline of this project is?

no, it is dependent on the 400 express lanes.

Henry

Quote from: Georgia on June 14, 2024, 12:32:00 PM
Quote from: mvak36 on June 14, 2024, 09:21:58 AM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on June 13, 2024, 04:09:35 PM

An updated animation of the I-285 Top-End Express Lanes Visualization...

That is very impressive. Does anyone know what the timeline of this project is?

no, it is dependent on the 400 express lanes.

According to this document, both sets of express lanes will be built after the Transform 285/400 project has been completed, with Phase 1 of the 400 project in design-build.
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Georgia

Yes, the will both be built after the Interchange project is done but the 400 lanes are 2 to 3 years ahead of the 285 lanes and 285' schedule is dependent on the 400 schedule.

https://majormobilityga.com/i-285-express-lanes/



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