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Title: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: ghYHZ on June 15, 2012, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: ghYHZ on June 13, 2012, 07:27:46 PM
Twinning of the remaining 4KM section of TCH104 from Pine Tree (east of New Glasgow, NS) to Sutherlands River is nearing completion and will open this year.


Now let's head 37 KM east where construction continues on the new TCH104 Antigonish By-pass......it begins about 1.5 km west of the new structure at Addington Forks Road. The 8KM first phase will open this year. (This short section of road in photo #3 will soon be routed onto the new structure)


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Here's the new structure over Trunk 7/Lochaber Road with a temporary road in the foreground.......Traffic started using the new roundabouts todays.


(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GbwdwxItXkQ/T9umVQper8I/AAAAAAAAIt0/VMMIzUz3ZYM/s800/e.JPG)


Structure at Church Street Extension provides access to several farm lanes.......and looking east from Church St to the West River bridges and Beech Hill Rd. beyond.


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A short temporary connection is being built down from the new By-pass (@ top of hill) to the existing TCH104 while construction continues on the by-pass through to Taylors Road in Lower South River.


(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-OKQ65QbO8Qs/T9um5PkyXPI/AAAAAAAAIuQ/NlP0mnUW1Sw/s800/i1.JPG)



Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: ghYHZ on June 15, 2012, 06:05:09 PM

I've had a view of the construction at Beech Hill Road from my office over the past 3 years.

-Summer 2009
-Winter 2010
-This afternoon.....complete.


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Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: Stephane Dumas on June 16, 2012, 11:38:43 AM
Very good! Thanks for sharing! :D
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on June 17, 2012, 09:41:02 AM
I am just looking at my 2009 Atlantic Canada road atlas at Antigonish.  It looks to me as if the alignment of Trunk 4 is itself a bypass.

For the sections of road where Hwy 104 simply overlays Trunk 4 are the routes cosigned, or is Trunk 4 simply discontinuous?
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: Alps on June 18, 2012, 07:07:32 PM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on June 17, 2012, 09:41:02 AM
I am just looking at my 2009 Atlantic Canada road atlas at Antigonish.  It looks to me as if the alignment of Trunk 4 is itself a bypass.

For the sections of road where Hwy 104 simply overlays Trunk 4 are the routes cosigned, or is Trunk 4 simply discontinuous?
4 is basically never cosigned. I say basically because there may be one spot where it is.
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: ghYHZ on June 19, 2012, 06:39:44 AM

Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on June 17, 2012, 09:41:02 AM
I am just looking at my 2009 Atlantic Canada road atlas at Antigonish.  It looks to me as if the alignment of Trunk 4 is itself a bypass.

For the sections of road where Hwy 104 simply overlays Trunk 4 are the routes cosigned, or is Trunk 4 simply discontinuous?

The current 5km TCH104 Antigonish By-pass was constructed in the 1960s between Exits 31 and 34. (It's a four lane boulevard between 31 & 33)

There's a gap of about 2.2km in Trunk 4 from the at grade intersection with TCH104 at Exit 31A to Exit 31 at James St. Then through the town........Trunk 4  follows: James St., West St., St. Ninian St., Main St.,  St. Andrews St., and South River Rd. back to an at grade intersection with TCH104 at Exit 34......There's another 14.2km gap in Trunk 4 to Heatherton.

But this should all change with the completion of the new By-pass this summer and I'm assuming the 2.2 km gap at Exit 31A will become Trunk 4. At James St. it could continue to follow town streets or head straight for Exit 34 on the 104. Eventually when the new By-pass is fully complete to Taylors Road in Lower South River.....Trunk 4 will follow the current TCH104 alignment.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Now let's back-track to Sutherlands River: With the opening of this short section of new TCH104.......Trunk 4 will be continuous once again from Exit 27 to Exit 29 at Barney's River (24 km)

*There's no Exit 28......possibly intended to be inserted at French River or Broadway in the future.
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: yakra on June 26, 2012, 12:39:34 AM
QuoteEventually when the new By-pass is fully complete to Taylors Road in Lower South River.....Trunk 4 will follow the current TCH104 alignment.
Does this include the segment from Exit 31 to Exit 34?
This would seem to make sense rather than to leave the 4-lane blvd unnumbered, and to have the single {4} designation go straight on the thru road at each end.

If that happens -- What of the current Trunk 4?
It makes sense IMO to have James, West, St Ninian, & Main become a southwesterly extension of Route 337, and Main,  St Andrews, & S River a southeasterly extension of Route 245.
What do you think the odds are of this happening?
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: ghYHZ on June 27, 2012, 06:50:19 AM
Quote from: yakra on June 26, 2012, 12:39:34 AM
QuoteEventually when the new By-pass is fully complete to Taylors Road in Lower South River.....Trunk 4 will follow the current TCH104 alignment.
Does this include the segment from Exit 31 to Exit 34?
This would seem to make sense rather than to leave the 4-lane blvd unnumbered, and to have the single {4} designation go straight on the thru road at each end.

If that happens -- What of the current Trunk 4?
It makes sense IMO to have James, West, St Ninian, & Main become a southwesterly extension of Route 337, and Main,  St Andrews, & S River a southeasterly extension of Route 245.
What do you think the odds are of this happening?

I was referring to the segment beyond Exit 34 to Taylors Rd. Anything I've seen still shows {4} passing through town and I've also heard the section between Exits 31 & 33 referred to as "University Boulevard"  It's adjacent to St. Francis Xavier University and once the controlled access designation is removed, could provide a new entrance to the campus.

But what you are proposing with Routes 245 & 337 certainly makes sense........also just continuing {4} through on existing 104.

>>>>>>>>>>

Right now I'm wondering what TIR will do with the 2KM section of existing 104 between Beech Hill Rd (Exit 33A) and Exit 34 for the next two years until the by-pass is fully complete. See Photo #10 above of a temporary connection being built. Westbound traffic would have no problem continuing through on the existing alignment but eastbound traffic would have to cross over the temporary connection. IMO....... I think it will just be barricaded at Beech Hill for now then reopened when the by-pass is complete.     

Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: yakra on August 13, 2012, 11:46:11 AM
Know when exactly this is slated to open?
It has not happened yet, correct?
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: ghYHZ on August 27, 2012, 07:17:12 PM
Quote from: yakra on August 13, 2012, 11:46:11 AM
Know when exactly this is slated to open?
It has not happened yet, correct?

Should be open in about two weeks.......the connections into the existing highway alignment have been paved.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-u0FjsVIxP1w/UDv103YW1oI/AAAAAAAAJBg/7-ej-PkYSQA/s800/IMG_1220.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PQUdhWJzXHM/UDv2QElHr_I/AAAAAAAAJB0/a9dpRscxm-U/s800/IMG_1224.JPG)

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Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: yakra on September 12, 2012, 04:14:35 AM
Minister says first phase of Antigonish highway bypass set to open (http://www.1015thehawk.com/index.php/2012091058750/Local-News/minister-says-first-phase-of-antigonish-highway-bypass-set-to-open.html)
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: yakra on September 18, 2012, 03:04:58 PM
K, lemme see if I can figure out what's going on here.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-OKQ65QbO8Qs/T9um5PkyXPI/AAAAAAAAIuQ/NlP0mnUW1Sw/s400/i1.JPG)
OSM shows the temporary connection tying in here (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.608754&lon=-61.956807&zoom=15), but I don't think that's quite correct. Judging by the two-lane roadway in the foreground, it looks like it ties in farther south, closer to Frenchy's.
Also, what's up with the construction in the immediate foreground? Looks like they're building a parallel roadway; it doesn't *completely* make sense to me. (A temporary connection/bypass? More on this below...)

I poked around GMSV and found the approximate locations of the last (https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=h&vpsrc=0&layer=c&cbll=45.604607,-61.947395&panoid=09PWNeGjotn0YAXSM9W1mA&cbp=11,306.64,,1,-2&ll=45.604611,-61.947398&spn=0.005149,0.01929&z=16) two (https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.606172,-61.951818&spn=0.005149,0.01929&t=h&z=16&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=45.606165,-61.95181&panoid=LRLMEmHZKnY2D-9DlyRDhQ&cbp=11,106.13,,0,5.61) images ghYHZ posted.
The former image has got to be the temporary connection from the 104 bypass coming down to tie into existing 104. Wow, that's a bit farther south than I was expecting, almost right at Exit 34.
The latter image, that detour where eastbound traffic moves left looks like that new roadway I wondered about above. Near as I can suss out, it's a temporary detour to keep traffic off the existing roadway while the work progresses on tying in the new (temporary) 104 and getting the geometry right. Looks like the sign for Exit 34 has been moved to the south, to the side of the new temporary 104 connection.

Exit numbers:
As part of the Sutherlands River twinning, when Exit 27 was closed, Exit 27A was renumbered to be the new exit 27.
I see the same thing happening here, as there'll no longer be an exit for James St.
Exit 31A becomes the new Exit 31, at Addington Forks Rd. (Trunk 4 will pass through one of the "barbells".)
Exit 32 will still serve Trunk 7.
Exit 33 is now the Beech Hill Rd interchange.
Exit 34 stays put.
BAM! A beautiful, seamless exit number sequence. This makes so much sense I can't imaging it not happening.

And also, the most important bit -- is it open yet? :bigass:
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: brucester4 on September 18, 2012, 06:39:35 PM
The new highway is opening tomorrow:

http://www.1015thehawk.com/index.php/2012091858869/Local-News/delays-expected-as-new-section-of-highway-opens-in-antigonish-co.html

Delays expected as new section of highway opens in Antigonish Co.
Tuesday, 18 September 2012 19:58

The newly twinned section of highway in Antigonish Co. is set to open to traffic Wednesday.
You should expect some delays.
The opening will cause some delays at Exit 31A, Addington Forks, Exit 33A, Beechhill and Exit 34, Lower South River.
The Department of Transportation says there will be signs and traffic control people on site.
You should drive with extra caution in those area.

The picture below I took Sunday at the western end of the new section:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8456%2F8001246811_68e63f0f5d.jpg&hash=9e3ccae8fa41fc2ea7fa2f20427681030a547cb4) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/brucester4/8001246811/)
New Highway (http://www.flickr.com/photos/brucester4/8001246811/) by brucester4 (http://www.flickr.com/people/brucester4/), on Flickr



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Antigonish (http://www.flickr.com/photos/brucester4/8001284910/) by brucester4 (http://www.flickr.com/people/brucester4/), on Flickr

Eastern End

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East End (http://www.flickr.com/photos/brucester4/8001305186/) by brucester4 (http://www.flickr.com/people/brucester4/), on Flickr

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East Detour (http://www.flickr.com/photos/brucester4/8001305294/) by brucester4 (http://www.flickr.com/people/brucester4/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: brucester4 on September 19, 2012, 07:39:24 PM
Someone has posted a video on YouTube of the new highway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7-6-BVuZbc
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: JREwing78 on September 19, 2012, 09:21:38 PM
Wow, speed limits are underposted in Canada. The freeway stretch in some of the States would've been posted for 75 or 80mph.

Doing 62mph by comparison is quite a crawl!
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: yakra on September 19, 2012, 10:29:02 PM
Quote from: brucester4 on September 18, 2012, 06:39:35 PM(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8309%2F8001284910_809b5ef742.jpg&hash=b584471579a1c63ab5ba5103c6033e30f1741673) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/brucester4/8001284910/)
Antigonish (http://www.flickr.com/photos/brucester4/8001284910/) by brucester4 (http://www.flickr.com/people/brucester4/), on Flickr
This one also makes me  :hmmm:
So, this is on what's now Trunk 4, right? This sign right here (https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.601608,-62.023916&spn=0.005149,0.01929&t=h&z=16&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=45.600126,-62.026197&panoid=EP5EMp53SDGQtaaLKGV2Aw&cbp=11,64.83,,1,2.15), minus a panel?
It seems according to this map (http://www.104antigonish.ca/documents/WestEndDetour.pdf) that at-grade jct with would be obliterated and that left turn would be routed through the roundabout.
Was this photo taken before they'd quite gotten that far in construction?

Edit:
And that YouTube video was awesome; thanks!
It looks like:
* New 104 neatly peels away from Old 104 starting right at Exit 34.
* ghYHZ was correct upthread: " I think it will just be barricaded at Beech Hill for now then reopened when the by-pass is complete." (aside from access for that one farm along the way, however that's done). Near Frenchy's at 3:33, that just looks like a temporary entrance used during construction or something. There's no break in the centerline, no signage...
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: yakra on September 20, 2012, 01:01:17 AM
I'm working on the Nova Scotia Trunk Routes (http://cmap.m-plex.com/hb/selecthwys.php?sys=cannst&rg=all&mt=g&gr=p&sub=Show#r) for the Clinched Highway Mapping (http://cmap.m-plex.com/) project.
Is this a pretty accurate picture of what NS4 (http://cmap.m-plex.com/hb/hwymap.php?mt=g&r=ns.ns004ant&sys=cannst&rg=all&gr=p&off=0) presently looks like in the area? (Also: Here's NS7. (http://cmap.m-plex.com/hb/hwymap.php?mt=g&r=ns.ns007&sys=cannst&rg=all&gr=p&off=0))

I've made a few assumptions I want to be sure are correct:
* NS4 has stayed on its existing alignment.
* The bypassed sections of NS104 that aren't now part of NS4 are now called University Blvd.
* No nasty surprises like NS7 getting truncated.
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: vdeane on September 20, 2012, 11:30:11 AM
It would likely be 55 or 65 if it were in the northeast US, but yes, Canada posts limits that are way lower than what you'd see here.
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: ghYHZ on September 20, 2012, 07:13:56 PM
Quote from: deanej on September 20, 2012, 11:30:11 AM
It would likely be 55 or 65 if it were in the northeast US, but yes, Canada posts limits that are way lower than what you'd see here.

The new Antigonish By-pass is 100 (62mph) 

In Nova Scotia and New Brunswick.....generally:
Four-Lane Rural Freeways: 110 (68mph)
Four-Lane Urban Freeways: 100 (62mph)
Two-Lane "Super Two" : 100 (62mph)
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: oscar on September 20, 2012, 07:27:49 PM
Except for 75mph on I-95 in northern Maine, the 110km/h limit in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick is higher than New York, anywhere in New England, or anywhere in the Mid-Atlantic north of the Virginias.
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: brucester4 on September 20, 2012, 08:03:43 PM
I am not sure what is happening where that picture was taken.  I think there will be a roundabout built at some point.  Trunk 4 is on a new (temporary?) alignment to the north of where that picture was taken, and the west bound ramp will be approximately where that picture was taken.  I should be in the area again on the weekend to see what is happening here.

There was suppose to be a detour to Trunk 4, but the plans were changed and the traffic was detoured to the new lanes instead, I am guessing the final plan is going to be as drawn on the map below.

Trunk 4 now routed as drawn on the map, Addington Forks Rd was detoured from Addington Lane to the overpass when I was there last week.  I am not sure how the ramps on the north side of the highway here are presently configured.

http://www.104antigonish.ca/documents/WestEndDetour.pdf

Quote from: yakra on September 19, 2012, 10:29:02 PM
Quote from: brucester4 on September 18, 2012, 06:39:35 PM(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8309%2F8001284910_809b5ef742.jpg&hash=b584471579a1c63ab5ba5103c6033e30f1741673) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/brucester4/8001284910/)
Antigonish (http://www.flickr.com/photos/brucester4/8001284910/) by brucester4 (http://www.flickr.com/people/brucester4/), on Flickr
This one also makes me  :hmmm:
So, this is on what's now Trunk 4, right? This sign right here (https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.601608,-62.023916&spn=0.005149,0.01929&t=h&z=16&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=45.600126,-62.026197&panoid=EP5EMp53SDGQtaaLKGV2Aw&cbp=11,64.83,,1,2.15), minus a panel?
It seems according to this map (http://www.104antigonish.ca/documents/WestEndDetour.pdf) that at-grade jct with would be obliterated and that left turn would be routed through the roundabout.
Was this photo taken before they'd quite gotten that far in construction?

Edit:
And that YouTube video was awesome; thanks!


Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: yakra on September 20, 2012, 08:43:11 PM
Thanks.
So, that leaves the downtown routing of Trunk 4 as what I need to get sorted out now.
Is it still...
Quote from: ghYHZthrough the town........Trunk 4  follows: James St., West St., St. Ninian St., Main St.,  St. Andrews St., and South River Rd. back to an at grade intersection with TCH104 at Exit 34......
?
Is old 104, east of James St, now known as University Blvd?
Is this a pretty accurate picture of what NS4 presently looks like in the area?
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: vdeane on September 21, 2012, 11:32:02 AM
Quote from: oscar on September 20, 2012, 07:27:49 PM
Except for 75mph on I-95 in northern Maine, the 110km/h limit in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick is higher than New York, anywhere in New England, or anywhere in the Mid-Atlantic north of the Virginias.
And everywhere else in Canada.
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: 1995hoo on September 21, 2012, 11:51:22 AM
Quote from: deanej on September 21, 2012, 11:32:02 AM
Quote from: oscar on September 20, 2012, 07:27:49 PM
Except for 75mph on I-95 in northern Maine, the 110km/h limit in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick is higher than New York, anywhere in New England, or anywhere in the Mid-Atlantic north of the Virginias.
And everywhere else in Canada.

I can't confirm from personal experience, but I thought I read that Alberta also had some roads posted at 110.
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: oscar on September 21, 2012, 12:09:26 PM
Quote from: deanej on September 21, 2012, 11:32:02 AM
Quote from: oscar on September 20, 2012, 07:27:49 PM
Except for 75mph on I-95 in northern Maine, the 110km/h limit in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick is higher than New York, anywhere in New England, or anywhere in the Mid-Atlantic north of the Virginias.
And everywhere else in Canada.
British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, and maybe Manitoba have highways (not just freeways) posted at 110km/h.
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: vdeane on September 21, 2012, 01:52:13 PM
I guess that's what I get for only having been to Ontario and Quebec.
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: ghYHZ on September 22, 2012, 06:46:36 AM
Quote from: yakra on September 20, 2012, 08:43:11 PM
Is old 104, east of James St, now known as University Blvd?
Is this a pretty accurate picture of what NS4 (http://cmap.m-plex.com/hb/hwymap.php?mt=g&r=ns.ns004ant&sys=cannst&rg=all&gr=p&off=0) presently looks like in the area?

Yes that's pretty accurate.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

After watching the By-pass construction over the past three years.......I was working in Newfoundland last week and missed the opening.

But to answer a couple of your questions.....I took a drive this morning on the new and old alignments and as far as I can tell......West, St. Ninian, Main, and St. Andrews Streets etc are still signed as NS4 through town.

Exit numbers have been pulled from the signs along old TCH104 but nothing indicating a route number or name along this section. If is to become "University Boulevard" ......time will tell. This was a name used by the proponents of the Blue Route, one of three optional routes in the early planning stage.  It was to appease the town who wanted a route even closer to established businesses.

The 2.1 KM section of old TCH104 from Beech Hill Road to Exit 34 is now barricaded at each end and will remain like this for about 3 years..... then be re-established as a through route when the next phase of the By-pass opens in 2015.

There are still a couple of detours in place and it will probably take a few more day to get all signage changed.   
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on September 24, 2012, 11:46:38 AM
I just watched the video.  I have to say this is a nice looking road.  I am not crazy about how Nova Scotia stripes the lane ending at the end of the multilane highway.  Why wouldn't they stripe it the same way they stripe the lane endings at the end of ramps?  Anyways, minor detail on an otherwise interesting roadway.
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: ghYHZ on September 24, 2012, 05:01:10 PM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on September 24, 2012, 11:46:38 AM
I am not crazy about how Nova Scotia stripes the lane ending at the end of the multilane highway.  Why wouldn't they stripe it the same way they stripe the lane endings at the end of ramps?  Anyways, minor detail on an otherwise interesting roadway.

If you had to cross-over a stripe.........wouldn't this give the impression that the left lane has the right-of-way which is not the case? The right lane is the through or travel lane and is just moving over.


Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: brucester4 on September 24, 2012, 08:34:10 PM
I did a westbound video, unfortunately it was rainy and dark, so it isn't the best.  Looks to still be a lot of work to finish the ramps on the westbound side at Addington Forks.  The right lane isn't finished and there is a lot of gravel in the median.

http://youtu.be/6OjfhaLuowU
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: vdeane on September 25, 2012, 12:35:31 PM
Quote from: ghYHZ on September 24, 2012, 05:01:10 PM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on September 24, 2012, 11:46:38 AM
I am not crazy about how Nova Scotia stripes the lane ending at the end of the multilane highway.  Why wouldn't they stripe it the same way they stripe the lane endings at the end of ramps?  Anyways, minor detail on an otherwise interesting roadway.

If you had to cross-over a stripe.........wouldn't this give the impression that the left lane has the right-of-way which is not the case? The right lane is the through or travel lane and is just moving over.



In pretty much any other jurisdiction, the left lane would be the through lane and have the ROW.
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: ghYHZ on September 25, 2012, 04:14:39 PM
Quote from: deanej on September 25, 2012, 12:35:31 PM
Quote from: ghYHZ on September 24, 2012, 05:01:10 PM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on September 24, 2012, 11:46:38 AM
I am not crazy about how Nova Scotia stripes the lane ending at the end of the multilane highway.  Why wouldn't they stripe it the same way they stripe the lane endings at the end of ramps?  Anyways, minor detail on an otherwise interesting roadway.
If you had to cross-over a stripe.........wouldn't this give the impression that the left lane has the right-of-way which is not the case? The right lane is the through or travel lane and is just moving over.

In pretty much any other jurisdiction, the left lane would be the through lane and have the ROW.

Here it's "Keep Right Except To Pass"  and with a solid line for the last 100 meters or so, you should have completed your pass. It's the same configuration found at the top of a climbing or passing lane. Newfoundland even takes it one step further by indicating "Yield"  across the end of the left lane allowing the right lane to move over.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mAL9HJ2xnHs/Tm_HwMxQ5NI/AAAAAAAAH2A/0USA8ceTmmk/s800/IMG_0141.JPG)
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: oscar on September 25, 2012, 04:39:27 PM
Quote from: ghYHZ on September 25, 2012, 04:14:39 PM
Here it's "Keep Right Except To Pass"  and with a solid line for the last 100 meters or so, you should have completed your pass. It's the same configuration found at the top of a climbing or passing lane. Newfoundland even takes it one step further by indicating "Yield"  across the end of the left lane allowing the right lane to move over.

I like how NL does it, which is part of the exceptional (perhaps best in North America) lane discipline I've experienced in that province.

But a quibble -- I thought that NL treats passing and climbing lanes differently, with "YIELD" lane markings at the end of the right lane for the latter, and of the left lane only for passing lanes.
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: ghYHZ on September 25, 2012, 05:33:55 PM
Quote from: oscar on September 25, 2012, 04:39:27 PM

But a quibble -- I thought that NL treats passing and climbing lanes differently, with "YIELD" lane markings at the end of the right lane for the latter, and of the left lane only for passing lanes.

Possibly......but can't say I've ever seen that.
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: Henry on September 26, 2012, 10:27:55 AM
Quote from: ghYHZ on June 15, 2012, 06:00:23 PM
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Why did they put a US 4 shield on that BGS???  :confused:
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: NE2 on September 26, 2012, 10:36:18 AM
Same reason we had a Nova Scotia 66.
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: yakra on September 26, 2012, 10:49:45 AM
Hey now, a US shield would have a *black* background.
This is a Maritimes shield. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7567.msg170872#msg170872)
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: vdeane on September 26, 2012, 11:35:15 AM
Quote from: ghYHZ on September 25, 2012, 04:14:39 PM

Here it's "Keep Right Except To Pass"  and with a solid line for the last 100 meters or so, you should have completed your pass. It's the same configuration found at the top of a climbing or passing lane. Newfoundland even takes it one step further by indicating "Yield"  across the end of the left lane allowing the right lane to move over.

Theoretically the same here (though it's not enforced, and can't be given how congested northeast interstates are); we just make all the traffic in the right lane move over.
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: Henry on September 27, 2012, 11:34:16 AM
Quote from: yakra on September 26, 2012, 10:49:45 AM
Hey now, a US shield would have a *black* background.
This is a Maritimes shield. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7567.msg170872#msg170872)
Glad this was cleared up!
Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: ghYHZ on November 12, 2012, 05:57:41 AM

The former TCH104 is severed at Exit 34 but will be fully restored as a through route when Phase 2 of the By-pass opens in 2015. At that time, this short 500 meter section extending to the top of the hill and the start of the divided highway (first photo below) will be removed. In the second photo......the now closed section makes a great 2 KM bike route into town!


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-H9UJDNjxtuI/UKAv5tqCFZI/AAAAAAAAJWs/RsudNrLVjGI/s800/IMG_1442.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ot1tmt2TIso/UKAvu1IflaI/AAAAAAAAJWg/jx6lI7s_-U0/s800/IMG_1436.JPG)



At Beech Hill Road, the old alignment is temporarily barricaded and traffic must now turn right to the new Exit 33 interchange......or left to NS4 (about 250 meters) at South River Road.



(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F1BcEOMVgOw/UKAvF4HVZVI/AAAAAAAAJWM/d-Bb7Vt5cPU/s800/IMG_1432.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QWVl4FmF7Gc/UKAsKFtucVI/AAAAAAAAJVQ/wzJsdIOKIcA/s800/IMG_1421.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2KtVKAQHLIw/UKAsXD2VJkI/AAAAAAAAJVc/aG88LVfN55k/s800/IMG_1417.JPG)



The new highway gives a different perspective of the town I've lived in for 30 years. 



(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-cXnwyCoOahI/UKAtwEVOFfI/AAAAAAAAJVw/riSSAhZtdCM/s800/IMG_1425.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-L1_myWzVdOI/UKAt-M-0lOI/AAAAAAAAJV4/toj-yVHdN7U/s800/IMG_1427.JPG)


Title: Re: Antigonish By-Pass - 2012 Update
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on November 14, 2012, 08:03:32 AM
Nice photos.  Looks like a well designed and constructed roadway.