New Jersey

[roadman65]

https://goo.gl/maps/BasRPbnzBb9Sugvs7
I see Union County started using yellow border back plates.

[jeffandnicole]

https://goo.gl/maps/BasRPbnzBb9Sugvs7
I see Union County started using yellow border back plates.

They are becoming relatively common around the state.  "Relatively common" is subject to debate, but in a state where it's extremely rare for backplates to be used to begin with, they've popped up on several new signals.  An intersection revision project near me for a new Wawa, they added these reflective backplates around the existing signal heads.

[roadman65]

Millburn has some with dark signal heads as well.
https://goo.gl/maps/gzViN7UvpqYvrvAH6

[famartin]

https://goo.gl/maps/BasRPbnzBb9Sugvs7
I see Union County started using yellow border back plates.

The SLD says that's county maintenance, but the overhead signs look like NJDOT installs. Given its proximity to the formerly NJDOT-owned section of the Parkway right there, I wonder if it might be NJDOT jurisdiction? Or perhaps NJTA?

[Alps]

https://goo.gl/maps/BasRPbnzBb9Sugvs7
I see Union County started using yellow border back plates.

The SLD says that's county maintenance, but the overhead signs look like NJDOT installs. Given its proximity to the formerly NJDOT-owned section of the Parkway right there, I wonder if it might be NJDOT jurisdiction? Or perhaps NJTA?

I believe the NJTA maintains about 5 signalized intersections total, but I don't have a list to point you to. I also don't know if that number includes the ones on the Parkway formerly or is anywhere close to the truth.

[storm2k]

https://goo.gl/maps/BasRPbnzBb9Sugvs7
I see Union County started using yellow border back plates.

The SLD says that's county maintenance, but the overhead signs look like NJDOT installs. Given its proximity to the formerly NJDOT-owned section of the Parkway right there, I wonder if it might be NJDOT jurisdiction? Or perhaps NJTA?

I believe the NJTA maintains about 5 signalized intersections total, but I don't have a list to point you to. I also don't know if that number includes the ones on the Parkway formerly or is anywhere close to the truth.

Two of those are the lights at Exit 12, the one to Drift Rd/Industrial Hwy and the other one to Roosevelt Ave, as well as the Roosevelt Ave/Drift Rd intersection, correct? The control cabinets have NJTP logos on them.

[Alps]

https://goo.gl/maps/BasRPbnzBb9Sugvs7
I see Union County started using yellow border back plates.

The SLD says that's county maintenance, but the overhead signs look like NJDOT installs. Given its proximity to the formerly NJDOT-owned section of the Parkway right there, I wonder if it might be NJDOT jurisdiction? Or perhaps NJTA?

I believe the NJTA maintains about 5 signalized intersections total, but I don't have a list to point you to. I also don't know if that number includes the ones on the Parkway formerly or is anywhere close to the truth.

Two of those are the lights at Exit 12, the one to Drift Rd/Industrial Hwy and the other one to Roosevelt Ave, as well as the Roosevelt Ave/Drift Rd intersection, correct? The control cabinets have NJTP logos on them.

Couldn't say. Keep in mind the signals may have been built under Int. 12 and then transferred to the city or county.

[famartin]

https://goo.gl/maps/BasRPbnzBb9Sugvs7
I see Union County started using yellow border back plates.

The SLD says that's county maintenance, but the overhead signs look like NJDOT installs. Given its proximity to the formerly NJDOT-owned section of the Parkway right there, I wonder if it might be NJDOT jurisdiction? Or perhaps NJTA?

I believe the NJTA maintains about 5 signalized intersections total, but I don't have a list to point you to. I also don't know if that number includes the ones on the Parkway formerly or is anywhere close to the truth.

Two of those are the lights at Exit 12, the one to Drift Rd/Industrial Hwy and the other one to Roosevelt Ave, as well as the Roosevelt Ave/Drift Rd intersection, correct? The control cabinets have NJTP logos on them.

Couldn't say. Keep in mind the signals may have been built under Int. 12 and then transferred to the city or county.

Honestly I'm surprised so few are under NJTA maintenance, there are plenty at GSP interchanges. And it seems odd they would all have been transferred to NJDOT/County/Municipal maintenance since they directly serve the NJTA.

[roadman65]

https://goo.gl/maps/BasRPbnzBb9Sugvs7
I see Union County started using yellow border back plates.

The SLD says that's county maintenance, but the overhead signs look like NJDOT installs. Given its proximity to the formerly NJDOT-owned section of the Parkway right there, I wonder if it might be NJDOT jurisdiction? Or perhaps NJTA?

The signals were installed in 1989 when the Parkway was state maintained then. It was part of a UNion County project to improve the Raritan Road/ Stiles Street Intersection that was dangerous for years prior.

The State might of took care of signal installation due to it being near Exit 136.

[famartin]

https://goo.gl/maps/BasRPbnzBb9Sugvs7
I see Union County started using yellow border back plates.

The SLD says that's county maintenance, but the overhead signs look like NJDOT installs. Given its proximity to the formerly NJDOT-owned section of the Parkway right there, I wonder if it might be NJDOT jurisdiction? Or perhaps NJTA?

The signals were installed in 1989 when the Parkway was state maintained then. It was part of a UNion County project to improve the Raritan Road/ Stiles Street Intersection that was dangerous for years prior.

The State might of took care of signal installation due to it being near Exit 136.

The signal might be that old, but the overhead signs are probably not even half as old.

[roadman65]

On another subject. Is NJ going to ask AASHTo to relocate US 9 onto the Parkway at Beeslys Point.
https://goo.gl/maps/bum4FcpRJ8YYdkr59
NJDOT still has it signed with mile markers  and no shields at CR 603 to turn there NB.
https://goo.gl/maps/zdjPRN5JKBXJoXnG7

[roadman65]

https://njsld.org/NJDOT/SLD/SheetViewer/00000009__/29/4
Still on the SLD as active there.

[jeffandnicole]

On another subject. Is NJ going to ask AASHTo to relocate US 9 onto the Parkway at Beeslys Point.
https://goo.gl/maps/bum4FcpRJ8YYdkr59
NJDOT still has it signed with mile markers  and no shields at CR 603 to turn there NB.
https://goo.gl/maps/zdjPRN5JKBXJoXnG7

NJ never officially asked AASHTO to move US 322 from its original route around Mullica Hill, NJ to the bypass, and that was 10 or so years ago.  They simply took down the old signs and put up new ones on the bypass.

So, based on that, don't expect them to do anything official anytime soon.  The GSP does have 1 reassurance sign posted showing that you're on North Parkway/US 9: https://goo.gl/maps/EeKyydcviVh8yjeg6 . 

At least the NJTA was nice enough to make the shoulder-less Northbound bridge 65 mph.  https://goo.gl/maps/WZJ7QhAaJEebyYmU8

[SignBridge]

Is that bridge fairly new? Why would they have built it without shoulders? That's not safe to say the least. Doesn't sound like the NJTA I know.........

[jeffandnicole]

Is that bridge fairly new? Why would they have built it without shoulders? That's not safe to say the least. Doesn't sound like the NJTA I know.........

Because it isn't new, and wasn't built by the NJTA.

This bridge was built in 1972 by the former New Jersey Highway Authority.  The bridge was rehabbed in the past 5 years, after the new bridge for Southbound traffic next to it was built.  Take a gander at what that one looks like...which was built by the NJTA.

[famartin]

Is that bridge fairly new? Why would they have built it without shoulders? That's not safe to say the least. Doesn't sound like the NJTA I know.........

Because it isn't new, and wasn't built by the NJTA.

This bridge was built in 1972 by the former New Jersey Highway Authority.  The bridge was rehabbed in the past 5 years, after the new bridge for Southbound traffic next to it was built.  Take a gander at what that one looks like...which was built by the NJTA.

I guess a more interesting question is... why didn't they replace both bridges? I hope it wasn't *just* money (NJTA seems to have plenty).

[storm2k]

Is that bridge fairly new? Why would they have built it without shoulders? That's not safe to say the least. Doesn't sound like the NJTA I know.........

Because it isn't new, and wasn't built by the NJTA.

This bridge was built in 1972 by the former New Jersey Highway Authority.  The bridge was rehabbed in the past 5 years, after the new bridge for Southbound traffic next to it was built.  Take a gander at what that one looks like...which was built by the NJTA.

I guess a more interesting question is... why didn't they replace both bridges? I hope it wasn't *just* money (NJTA seems to have plenty).

IIRC, the original plan was to replace both, but later decided that rehabbing the northbound bridge was enough and didn't need to be completely rebuilt. Don't hold me to that tho.

[roadman65]

Is that bridge fairly new? Why would they have built it without shoulders? That's not safe to say the least. Doesn't sound like the NJTA I know.........

Because it isn't new, and wasn't built by the NJTA.

This bridge was built in 1972 by the former New Jersey Highway Authority.  The bridge was rehabbed in the past 5 years, after the new bridge for Southbound traffic next to it was built.  Take a gander at what that one looks like...which was built by the NJTA.

I guess a more interesting question is... why didn't they replace both bridges? I hope it wasn't *just* money (NJTA seems to have plenty).

IIRC, the original plan was to replace both, but later decided that rehabbing the northbound bridge was enough and didn't need to be completely rebuilt. Don't hold me to that tho.

A back article showing a photo of underneath the old structure plus some events of the time as some beam falling off a truck caused two days of work to remove it slowing down  construction. https://www.inquirer.com/philly/news/new_jersey/20170115_Get_ready_for_two_more_years_of_traffic_headaches_at_the_Jersey_shore.html

[Mr. Matté]

Reading an article about how the state wants to eliminate/merge/regionalize school districts, this was one of the proposals out of left field:

Install high-occupancy toll lanes (or HOT lane) on I-80, I-295, I-287, among others.

https://patch.com/new-jersey/bernardsville-bedminster/s/hgnt3/nj-advances-plan-may-eliminate-many-school-districts

[famartin]

Reading an article about how the state wants to eliminate/merge/regionalize school districts, this was one of the proposals out of left field:

Install high-occupancy toll lanes (or HOT lane) on I-80, I-295, I-287, among others.

https://patch.com/new-jersey/bernardsville-bedminster/s/hgnt3/nj-advances-plan-may-eliminate-many-school-districts

Getting OT, but was surprised no Mercer districts were on that list. Down here around DC, the school districts are county-wide. Mind you, Fairfax County, the largest, has a population of over 1 million.

Back on-topic... I would hope they mean to ADD new HOT lanes and not just transfer lanes into HOT.

[interstate73]

Reading an article about how the state wants to eliminate/merge/regionalize school districts, this was one of the proposals out of left field:

Install high-occupancy toll lanes (or HOT lane) on I-80, I-295, I-287, among others.

https://patch.com/new-jersey/bernardsville-bedminster/s/hgnt3/nj-advances-plan-may-eliminate-many-school-districts

Weren't HOV lanes already a miserable failure in the 90s on these corridors? The commuting patterns in the region proved too multi-polar for them to work effectively. Although having the HOT option to sell off the extra capacity to SOVs would definitely increase the utility. I do wonder how they'll squeeze them in though, the ROWs are pretty tight as it is in some places (i.e. I-80 through Denville and east of 23, I-287 through Morristown etc.)

[jeffandnicole]

Reading an article about how the state wants to eliminate/merge/regionalize school districts, this was one of the proposals out of left field:

Install high-occupancy toll lanes (or HOT lane) on I-80, I-295, I-287, among others.

https://patch.com/new-jersey/bernardsville-bedminster/s/hgnt3/nj-advances-plan-may-eliminate-many-school-districts

Weren't HOV lanes already a miserable failure in the 90s on these corridors? The commuting patterns in the region proved too multi-polar for them to work effectively. Although having the HOT option to sell off the extra capacity to SOVs would definitely increase the utility. I do wonder how they'll squeeze them in though, the ROWs are pretty tight as it is in some places (i.e. I-80 through Denville and east of 23, I-287 through Morristown etc.)

Not on I-295.  I've often thought about that myself, and I tend to conclude in my own mind that it'll be much cheaper just to offer some ramps to connect directly between 295 and the neighboring NJ Turnpike, especially if made part of the future widening project south of NJ 73.  I-295 itself could have a solo-HOT lane added (each direction) without too much inconvenience, especially north of US 30, but they would need to completely redo 295 for a 2 lane addition.

The NJ Turnpike with the Pension system I believe has been brought up before, but (rightfully) dropped before it gets too much consideration.

[Alps]

Reading an article about how the state wants to eliminate/merge/regionalize school districts, this was one of the proposals out of left field:

Install high-occupancy toll lanes (or HOT lane) on I-80, I-295, I-287, among others.

https://patch.com/new-jersey/bernardsville-bedminster/s/hgnt3/nj-advances-plan-may-eliminate-many-school-districts

I missed the OP yesterday. They already tried HOV lanes and the deal was they couldn't take existing lanes away. It turned into them becoming regular lanes. There is no way they are going to turn an existing lane into a HOT lane and get that past the public. There is no way they are fitting new lanes both ways. Dead issue.

[TheGrassGuy]

FritzOwl be like: "Who needs Washington's Headquarters when you can widen I-287 to twelve lanes?! "

On an unrelated note, why has Canoe Brook Rd in Short Hills been renamed Fineran Way?

[Plutonic Panda]

12 lanes really isn't all that much. Not sure how much that would really ease traffic congestion in a notoriously congested city like DC.