People who don't know cold aren't in my shoes of my neighborhood.
Temperatures have been running 10-15∘F above normal for the past three weeks.
The temps have been (https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51480535895_f393e0909b_t.jpg) compared to last year. :bigass:
When is this darn HEAT gonna STOP for GOOD?! At least till next spring?! :-D :wow: :colorful:
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Quote from: snowc on September 15, 2021, 04:16:00 PM
People who don't know cold aren't in my shoes of my neighborhood.
what does this even mean
Also, wait a couple weeks and you'll probably get your first real cold front of the year.
Quote from: US 89 on September 15, 2021, 11:29:56 PM
Quote from: snowc on September 15, 2021, 04:16:00 PM
People who don't know cold aren't in my shoes of my neighborhood.
what does this even mean
Also, wait a couple weeks and you'll probably get your first real cold front of the year.
you don't understand because you aren't in his shoes of his neighborhood
Dude, you watched Mister Rogers Neighborhood wrong.
Quote from: Alps on September 15, 2021, 11:32:22 PM
Quote from: US 89 on September 15, 2021, 11:29:56 PM
Quote from: snowc on September 15, 2021, 04:16:00 PM
People who don't know cold aren't in my shoes of my neighborhood.
what does this even mean
Also, wait a couple weeks and you'll probably get your first real cold front of the year.
you don't understand because you aren't in his shoes of his neighborhood
I don't understand either, and I do know cold.
What kind shoes is the neighborhood wearing?
Winter has been approved and penciled in for later this year.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 16, 2021, 09:11:04 AM
What kind shoes is the neighborhood wearing?
Wingtips, but the neighborhood changes into gym shoes when they go inside. They also trade their suit jacket for a zippered cardigan.
Quote from: snowc on September 15, 2021, 04:16:00 PM
People who don't know cold aren't in my shoes of my neighborhood.
Temperatures have been running 10-15∘F above normal for the past three weeks.
The temps have been (https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51480535895_f393e0909b_t.jpg) compared to last year. :bigass:
When is this darn HEAT gonna STOP for GOOD?! At least till next spring?! :-D :wow: :colorful:
sad to say, temps aren't above normal. this is now normal. used to be we cooled off in september, now we're in the 80's well into november.
at least its cooling off at night now. last night it was like 52.
Quote from: abefroman329 on September 16, 2021, 09:52:06 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 16, 2021, 09:11:04 AM
What kind shoes is the neighborhood wearing?
Wingtips, but the neighborhood changes into gym shoes when they go inside. They also trade their suit jacket for a zippered cardigan.
Good thing, wingtips are kind of heat resistant.
Quote from: Alps on September 15, 2021, 11:32:22 PM
Quote from: US 89 on September 15, 2021, 11:29:56 PM
Quote from: snowc on September 15, 2021, 04:16:00 PM
People who don't know cold aren't in my shoes of my neighborhood.
what does this even mean
Also, wait a couple weeks and you'll probably get your first real cold front of the year.
you don't understand because you aren't in his shoes of his neighborhood
It's an idiomatic phrase that means that you haven't experienced something.
Quote from: snowc on September 16, 2021, 11:14:42 AM
People,
Harnett County deserves a break from the heat.
Now it seems to be that we may be getting a break FINALLY! from the 90s! :pan:
What is Harnett County's qualifications? Has it filed the appropriate paperwork and attached it to it's application for colder weather?
Quote from: snowc on September 16, 2021, 11:17:07 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 16, 2021, 11:16:16 AM
Quote from: snowc on September 16, 2021, 11:14:42 AM
People,
Harnett County deserves a break from the heat.
Now it seems to be that we may be getting a break FINALLY! from the 90s! :pan:
What is Harnett County's qualifications? Has it filed the appropriate paperwork and attached it to it's application for colder weather?
HC should be 70s in October, rather than 90+ degree weather in October, like my birthday was BROILING!
But what has Harnett County actually done to earn that 70F weather? This shouldn't be a empty handout.
Quote from: snowc on September 16, 2021, 12:01:55 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 16, 2021, 11:59:36 AM
Quote from: snowc on September 16, 2021, 11:17:07 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 16, 2021, 11:16:16 AM
Quote from: snowc on September 16, 2021, 11:14:42 AM
People,
Harnett County deserves a break from the heat.
Now it seems to be that we may be getting a break FINALLY! from the 90s! :pan:
What is Harnett County's qualifications? Has it filed the appropriate paperwork and attached it to it's application for colder weather?
HC should be 70s in October, rather than 90+ degree weather in October, like my birthday was BROILING!
But what has Harnett County actually done to earn that 70F weather? This shouldn't be a empty handout.
Harnett County did zilch to earn 70degrees other than Cold fronts! :wow:
I'm sorry then it only qualifies for heat in the 90-100F range.
Quote from: Alps on September 15, 2021, 11:32:22 PM
Quote from: US 89 on September 15, 2021, 11:29:56 PM
Quote from: snowc on September 15, 2021, 04:16:00 PM
People who don't know cold aren't in my shoes of my neighborhood.
what does this even mean
Also, wait a couple weeks and you'll probably get your first real cold front of the year.
you don't understand because you aren't in his shoes of his neighborhood
If you have to ask, then you're streets behind
When global warming stops lol. The next week in Amherst is all 75+ degree weather.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 16, 2021, 12:47:42 PM
When global warming stops lol. The next week in Amherst is all 75+ degree weather.
The climate average daily high for the next week where I live is 72°, and temperatures shouldn't be that different where you are. 75 isn't out of the ordinary.
Quote from: snowc on September 16, 2021, 11:17:07 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 16, 2021, 11:16:16 AM
Quote from: snowc on September 16, 2021, 11:14:42 AM
People,
Harnett County deserves a break from the heat.
Now it seems to be that we may be getting a break FINALLY! from the 90s! :pan:
What is Harnett County's qualifications? Has it filed the appropriate paperwork and attached it to it's application for colder weather?
HC should be 70s in October, rather than 90+ degree weather in October, like my birthday was BROILING!
What did you broil? Some nice pork chops, potatoes maybe, or some vegetables?
I was just thinking...this has been a weird year for weather. First, southeast Texas, where I live, had a winter storm and multiple days of freezing temps...and didn't really warm up until late May. Then, while the PNW was enduring a sweltering heat wave, it only broke 100 here maybe once or twice. It was hot, sure, but not nearly as bad as the last few years have been. Now, its only mid September and its so nice outside..its 79 right now
Relax. We will be shoveling it soon enough. :popcorn:
My dad used to ask, usually when it was below zero outside and us kids would complain that it's too cold, "what are you going to do when winter gets here?"
He also used to say, "be careful what you wish for ... you might just get it."
Quote from: renegade on September 16, 2021, 04:21:10 PM
My dad used to ask, usually when it was below zero outside and us kids would complain that it's too cold, "what are you going to do when winter gets here?"
He also used to say, "be careful what you wish for ... you might just get it."
North Carolina doesn't have a low temperature problem.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 16, 2021, 12:47:42 PM
When global warming stops lol. The next week in Amherst is all 75+ degree weather.
Dude that is literally normal for mid-September in the CT river valley.
Can't wait until you wonder where all the snow is in the winter compared to your normal home.
Quote from: 1 on September 16, 2021, 04:44:00 PM
Quote from: renegade on September 16, 2021, 04:21:10 PM
My dad used to ask, usually when it was below zero outside and us kids would complain that it's too cold, "what are you going to do when winter gets here?"
He also used to say, "be careful what you wish for ... you might just get it."
North Carolina doesn't have a low temperature problem.
OK, but neither does Texas, usually ...
Welcome to the new norm for September. 3 of the past 4 years we've had upper 80s/low 90s high temperatures going into late September here and that trend will continue this year.
Texas this year enjoyed a below-normal summer for once. We had about a week of our usual 100s and that was it. July was unusually rainy and so was August. Our first real fall cold front arrives Tuesday with lows in the low 50s.
Has the Icon of Sin sucked Harnett County into the 6th Circle of Hell yet?
Well, I'm really jonesing for that cold front now. My AC has been out since Saturday (blower still runs but the air coming out is only a couple degrees cooler than ambient air temperature so it does jack shit).
Answer (for me): roughly 24 hours. A strong cold front is expected to bring temperatures down a whopping 20 degrees. 91 to 71.
It's been stupid-warm this September here too. The wife and I went to the pool yesterday as temperatures sat in the upper 80s...I think somewhere in the lower 70s is expected for this time of year. The pattern of far-above-average temperatures isn't supposed to break for the next two weeks, either.
Today it was cool, barely 60. But back up to near 70 this weekend.
The heat stopped here on the last day of summer. Since the start of the fall season, we've have not had any hot weather -- only low-mid 90s, so the heat has really toned way down from the 100-105 degrees a couple weeks ago.
"Not had any hot weather"
"only low-mid 90s"
Does not compute.
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In Seattle, we've been staying a bit too warm (in the mid to high 60s generally) for fall. Still waiting on the permanent gray to set in for the next few months, with more comfortable highs in the 50s.
It's supposed to be 68F in Fresno. Apparently the same weather front might bring rain and snow to higher elevations. That potentially could be good news given the KNP Fire has gotten out of control the last couple days.
Quote from: Bruce on October 05, 2021, 01:57:51 AMDoes not compute.
For those of us who are from South Texas, it actually does make perfect sense. Temperatures in the 90s are nothing unusual to start the month of October (and for any day in October for that matter); in fact places like Laredo and McAllen average 91-93 highs at the beginning of the month.
The Weather Channel is predicting that Moosonee, ON will be warmer than Tijuana, Mexico this weekend!
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/news/article/hudson-bay-is-warmer-than-mexico-this-thanksgiving-weekend (https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/news/article/hudson-bay-is-warmer-than-mexico-this-thanksgiving-weekend)
(https://images.ctfassets.net/c55i45ef3o2a/4IBc21kBBDMJv1PGe7IwtN/26dcf7d1a1774cc56584bfe4e4166de5/unnamed__4_.jpg)
In Kitchener, the highest temp for the longest weekend is forecasted to be a summer-like 24 C/75 F on Monday.
The leaves are changing colors that much here in Western MA. The heat has something to do with that.
Quote from: ozarkman417 on September 20, 2021, 12:11:57 AM
Answer (for me): roughly 24 hours. A strong cold front is expected to bring temperatures down a whopping 20 degrees. 91 to 71.
This didn't age well. Springfield's Saturday weather is forecasted to be 90, two degrees away from that day's record high set in 1980.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on October 07, 2021, 04:03:54 PM
The leaves are changing colors that much here in Western MA. The heat has something to do with that.
Are or aren't? Ours are changing earlier than normal and are much duller due to the ongoing drought here
Quote from: ET21 on October 11, 2021, 10:39:41 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on October 07, 2021, 04:03:54 PM
The leaves are changing colors that much here in Western MA. The heat has something to do with that.
Are or aren't? Ours are changing earlier than normal and are much duller due to the ongoing drought here
I am in the Pioneer Valley right now and the leaves are behind in changing this year. Less vibrant than other years, too. Coming up on peak right now, though.
Quote from: Rothman on October 11, 2021, 11:37:39 AM
Quote from: ET21 on October 11, 2021, 10:39:41 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on October 07, 2021, 04:03:54 PM
The leaves are changing colors that much here in Western MA. The heat has something to do with that.
Are or aren't? Ours are changing earlier than normal and are much duller due to the ongoing drought here
I am in the Pioneer Valley right now and the leaves are behind in changing this year. Less vibrant than other years, too. Coming up on peak right now, though.
Yeah our peak is supposed to be this week and everything just looks dull. Maybe after this weekend with cooler temperatures things will begin to pop.
Meanwhile, here in Houston the high temperature for Friday is forecast to be 90 degrees. snowc would not like living down here.
Meanwhile in Seattle: morning low of 36F (a new daily record) and highs not budging from the 50s. It's good, but I'd rather have clear skies for the aurora.
https://twitter.com/NWSSeattle/status/1448006735008911360
Depends on the location, like for us above average in the 60th-70th percentile is the upper 60s/lower 70s. All depends on your local area's average high for those dates.
It has been an unusually warm fall in the Southwest. I normally have to kick on the furnace by Dec. 1, and some years by Nov. 1. This year, it's 2 weeks before Christmas and we've barely had a morning frost yet. I think it's approached freezing a couple of times, but I still have a lot of green in my lawn and a lot of neighborhood leaves are still green.
Quote from: Road Hog on December 12, 2021, 05:36:32 PM
It has been an unusually warm fall in the Southwest. I normally have to kick on the furnace by Dec. 1, and some years by Nov. 1. This year, it's 2 weeks before Christmas and we've barely had a morning frost yet. I think it's approached freezing a couple of times, but I still have a lot of green in my lawn and a lot of neighborhood leaves are still green.
Indeed, and I'm getting somewhat annoyed with it, as my bedroom and office both face south. With the warm temperatures outside, and the sun shining in the windows, both rooms reach 80° in the mid-afternoon. Yet running the A/C isn't a solution, since the north and central parts of the house are nice and cool, and guess where the thermostat is? If it were cooler outside, I could at least open the window, but the temperature difference isn't enough for that to be useful.
More concerning is the lack of rain we've been having. That, plus the dormant grasses and the high winds we've been having, mean wildfires are an increasingly big concern.
When we stop driving?
When we move to electric cars, vehicles, and cut back on industrial factories that make all the pollution...
as we got heat previously, a front came FINALLY on the 3rd, and brought SNOW! and wind. ;-)
For the first time since September, highs are gonna be in the 80s! :colorful:
:colorful:
Temps are now in the 80s!
I'm in Palm Springs. It's almost always hot. Though it's only going to be 70°F today so the furnace will be on again tonight. :bigass:
While temps are expected to be in the 100s this Friday, we are now expected to have our first Heat advisory soon!
That means the heat is on and will not stop until September.
Bryce
Quote from: snowc on May 17, 2022, 01:51:14 PM
While temps are expected to be in the 100s this Friday, we are now expected to have our first Heat advisory soon!
That means the heat is on and will not stop until September.
Bryce
So the "heat" hasn't even started yet but you are projecting when it will stop? I thought this was a present tense thread regarding already initiated heat waves? Also, your prediction is non-stop 100F plus weather in your area straight through without interruption to September?
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 17, 2022, 01:54:29 PM
Quote from: snowc on May 17, 2022, 01:51:14 PM
While temps are expected to be in the 100s this Friday, we are now expected to have our first Heat advisory soon!
That means the heat is on and will not stop until September.
Bryce
So the "heat" hasn't even started yet but you are projecting when it will stop? I thought this was a present tense thread regarding already initiated heat waves? Also, your prediction is non-stop 100F plus weather in your area straight through without interruption to September?
No, the Heat index is going to be in the 100s, signaling the start of summer. I am making predictions on when it will end, which I think is going to be September.
Bryce
Quote from: snowc on May 17, 2022, 01:56:06 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 17, 2022, 01:54:29 PM
Quote from: snowc on May 17, 2022, 01:51:14 PM
While temps are expected to be in the 100s this Friday, we are now expected to have our first Heat advisory soon!
That means the heat is on and will not stop until September.
Bryce
So the "heat" hasn't even started yet but you are projecting when it will stop? I thought this was a present tense thread regarding already initiated heat waves? Also, your prediction is non-stop 100F plus weather in your area straight through without interruption to September?
No, the Heat index is going to be in the 100s, signaling the start of summer. I am making predictions on when it will end, which I think is going to be September.
Bryce
"Is going to" but isn't presently. So basically you're preemptively whining about something that hasn't happened yet. Heat index versus the actual forecasted temperature are two different things. If you follow the astronomical calendar then Summer doesn't start until June 23rd, June 1st if you prefer the simplified meteorological calendar.
I just wanted to post in a deleted thread to say that I did.
When will deleted thread STOP?!
are we sure snowc and Angelo from Pittsburgh aren’t the same person :-D
Quote from: US 89 on May 20, 2022, 11:26:57 AM
are we sure snowc and Angelo from Pittsburgh aren't the same person :-D
I prefer the snolbs17 theory.
I think this one's telling as to who started the thread.
Quote from: Brandon on May 20, 2022, 12:23:56 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 20, 2022, 10:03:19 AM
When will deleted thread STOP?!
No stop till Alanland!
Too flat, I prefer the mountains splendor or Illinois. I'm just waiting for that Hypotenuse to be built which will provide direct access to from Ethanland to Chicago.
I don't follow the NBA. Are the Miami Heat still playing, or has someone stopped them?
Quote from: hbelkins on May 20, 2022, 01:13:05 PM
I don't follow the NBA. Are the Miami Heat still playing, or has someone stopped them?
They haven't been deleted yet from the Eastern Conference Finals. Unclear yet if the Heat will be finally stopped by the Celtics.
Quote from: snowc on May 17, 2022, 01:51:14 PM
While temps are expected to be in the 100s this Friday, we are now expected to have our first Heat advisory soon!
That means the heat is on and will not stop until September.
Asheville has a forecast high temperature of 69°F on Tuesday.
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I feel like I need this to delete thread.
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Quote from: kphoger on May 20, 2022, 01:52:10 PM
Quote from: snowc on May 17, 2022, 01:51:14 PM
While temps are expected to be in the 100s this Friday, we are now expected to have our first Heat advisory soon!
That means the heat is on and will not stop until September.
Asheville has a forecast high temperature of 69°F on Tuesday.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/kEJyEhU826OBM34YpY/200w.gif?cid=82a1493bn2ggbhugh41b6j3snbvy9fqg4dsnpg4zathafora&rid=200w.gif)
But the world doesn't revolve around Asheville, it revolves around Raleigh (which is forecasted for 75F).
Quote from: snowc on September 15, 2021, 04:16:00 PM
this thread was posted from a deleted user, which no longer is on this forum.
Low key admission that this was tolbs all along?
Those who quote the OP continue to be the MVP. zachary_amaryllis gets the gold star this time.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 20, 2022, 12:54:27 PM
Quote from: Brandon on May 20, 2022, 12:23:56 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 20, 2022, 10:03:19 AM
When will deleted thread STOP?!
No stop till Alanland!
Too flat, I prefer the mountains splendor or Illinois. I'm just waiting for that Hypotenuse to be built which will provide direct access to from Ethanland to Chicago.
Via a Parclo B4
Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 20, 2022, 05:39:21 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 20, 2022, 12:54:27 PM
Quote from: Brandon on May 20, 2022, 12:23:56 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 20, 2022, 10:03:19 AM
When will deleted thread STOP?!
No stop till Alanland!
Too flat, I prefer the mountains splendor or Illinois. I'm just waiting for that Hypotenuse to be built which will provide direct access to from Ethanland to Chicago.
Via a Parclo B4
Progress on that has been halted for now, due to the impending stock market crash.
It's been over 90 in Needham this whole week. Hotter than normal, but not awful for this time of year.
This heat wave is the longest we've had for a while. But the temps themselves aren't unprecedented fir this time of year. All of the folks up from Florida for the summer aren't escaping the heat they flee from this time of year, at least not this week.
We've had a couple weeks to temperatures in the 100s in Fresno. I want to say it only topped out at 109F this past Monday and never hit 110F. The low 100F range isn't exactly abnormal for July, usually there is at least one big sustained run of temperatures like that this time of year. It actually was surprisingly cooler for most of the year leading up to July.
Also, did the robots get to snowc or something given he hasn't been around in awhile?
90 degrees in Walterboro, South Carolina. 60% humidity, dew point 72. Not terrible for South Carolina.
It's not any hotter than it used to be. Thermometers just read high as they age, and new thermometers are required to comply with Agenda 21. If you find a thermometer that's been in the freezer for decades, it will show the true temperature.
Given last year's trends I say late September.
Quote from: snowc on September 15, 2021, 04:16:00 PM
When is this darn HEAT gonna STOP for GOOD?! At least till next spring?! :-D :wow: :colorful:
If we don't stop burning so many hydrocarbons, never.
The heat wave up here is expected to break on Monday, when a cold front comes through and lowers temps into the 80s.
It stopped yesterday. It's going to be an amazing week in the Upper Midwest.
Quote from: kphoger on May 20, 2022, 08:15:38 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 20, 2022, 05:39:21 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 20, 2022, 12:54:27 PM
Quote from: Brandon on May 20, 2022, 12:23:56 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 20, 2022, 10:03:19 AM
When will deleted thread STOP?!
No stop till Alanland!
Too flat, I prefer the mountains splendor or Illinois. I'm just waiting for that Hypotenuse to be built which will provide direct access to from Ethanland to Chicago.
Via a Parclo B4
Progress on that has been halted for now, due to the impending stock market crash.
The heat is a curse and a blessing from Goat Jesus.
^^^
Goat Jesus hates you but is also madly in love with your style.
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on July 22, 2022, 06:39:45 PM
Quote from: snowc on September 15, 2021, 04:16:00 PM
When is this darn HEAT gonna STOP for GOOD?! At least till next spring?! :-D :wow: :colorful:
If we don't stop burning so many hydrocarbons, never.
I wonder what snowc thinks of what the projected climate of Earth in billion years is supposed to be?
European and US Heat Waves: September
Unfortunately, given the trend of high 90's and low 100's in Montana, it won't stop anytime soon. Despite my best effort in keeping the hot air out of my apartment with box fans, it's been a losing dogfight. I think we are past the point of asking when it will stop because it won't. It's either you suck it up and drink your water so you don't melt, or, be a bonehead and burn into ether.
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on July 30, 2022, 06:10:31 PM
Unfortunately, given the trend of high 90's and low 100's in Montana, it won't stop anytime soon. Despite my best effort in keeping the hot air out of my apartment with box fans, it's been a losing dogfight. I think we are past the point of asking when it will stop because it won't. It's either you suck it up and drink your water so you don't melt, or, be a bonehead and burn into ether.
Does this mean you're going to be out watering the lawn, the greenhouse, and the flower beds, and won't be on as often?
Stay cool friends. TheHighwayMan394, out.
Judging by all the others' complaints about summer weather, I guess I have a higher-than-average heat tolerance, having grown up and lived in a semi-tropical climate all my life. I don't ever remember complaining in the summer. I've been outside in the summer playing tennis or hauling baggage on the tarmac and still feel alright. On the flipside, anything below 60 degrees (with light breeze) and I start shivering, especially if I don't have a coat on.
I still firmly stand by my belief that South Texas has the most desirable climate anywhere in North America.
It's been hot since early June in DFW, and when it gets that hot that early, it's going to be a top-five bad summer. The all-timer is 1980, although 2011 was bad too and rivals it in a lot of measures.
Normally the really hot stuff doesn't hit until after July 4, and occasionally we get a wet July like last summer that staves off the 100s until August. But this year we haven't had measurable rainfall since June 3, which makes conditions worse.
We had a peak of 109ºF for three days a couple of weeks ago, but it's stayed around 100-102ºF mostly, which keeps it a little tolerable. I'm warm-natured and don't handle summers well.
This Pacific Northwest heat wave is unusually prolonged and is thus hitting us hard. Sustained 90+ days is very unusual for those on the west side of the Cascades and is just as hard as the 100-116 days during the heat dome last year.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 20, 2022, 11:33:00 AM
Quote from: US 89 on May 20, 2022, 11:26:57 AM
are we sure snowc and Angelo from Pittsburgh aren't the same person :-D
I prefer the snolbs17 theory.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 22, 2022, 08:05:02 AMAlso, did the robots get to snowc or something given he hasn't been around in awhile?
Methinks you weren't alone in your theory...
Come down to Florida. We deal with it constantly. Many in other parts of the country always cry when the temps remain high like it's a big deal.
Better yet come to Louisiana where humidity is always a problem near the Gulf making the 90's totally hard to bear.
Quote from: jgb191 on July 31, 2022, 12:36:28 AM
Judging by all the others' complaints about summer weather, I guess I have a higher-than-average heat tolerance, having grown up and lived in a semi-tropical climate all my life. I don't ever remember complaining in the summer. I've been outside in the summer playing tennis or hauling baggage on the tarmac and still feel alright. On the flipside, anything below 60 degrees (with light breeze) and I start shivering, especially if I don't have a coat on.
I still firmly stand by my belief that South Texas has the most desirable climate anywhere in North America.
I don't think you'll get many people to agree with you. I'm from Oklahoma (I firmly stand by my belief that Oklahoma has the
least desirable climate anywhere in North America) and even I found Corpus Christi to be uncomfortably humid. You and I may be well-adapted to 100+ temperatures, but for most people, they're a dealbreaker.
Most people find the climate in Southern California to be the gold standard:
(https://i.imgur.com/BBq0JCW.png)
Quote from: roadman65 on July 31, 2022, 07:10:56 AM
Come down to Florida. We deal with it constantly. Many in other parts of the country always cry when the temps remain high like it's a big deal.
Better yet come to Louisiana where humidity is always a problem near the Gulf making the 90's totally hard to bear.
Inland Florida IMO has the worst summer weather in the country. The high humidity coupled with the likelihood of major thunderstorms or hurricanes makes a chunk of the year pretty miserable.
List of days from July 11 to August 8 where the high temperature is below average (83°-84°) here:
July 18
July 26
August 6, and not guaranteed
End of list
August 9 is right on the edge and could go either way. I can't see past August 9.
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 31, 2022, 05:16:51 PM
(I firmly stand by my belief that Oklahoma has the least desirable climate anywhere in North America)
I don't know, the further north you go the more cold and winter weather you get, and the summers still get very hot and aren't enough better to offset it IMO. From what little I know of Oklahoma, I'd take it over Manitoba and probably over the Dakotas too.
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 31, 2022, 05:16:51 PM
Quote from: jgb191 on July 31, 2022, 12:36:28 AM
Judging by all the others' complaints about summer weather, I guess I have a higher-than-average heat tolerance, having grown up and lived in a semi-tropical climate all my life. I don't ever remember complaining in the summer. I've been outside in the summer playing tennis or hauling baggage on the tarmac and still feel alright. On the flipside, anything below 60 degrees (with light breeze) and I start shivering, especially if I don't have a coat on.
I still firmly stand by my belief that South Texas has the most desirable climate anywhere in North America.
I don't think you'll get many people to agree with you. I'm from Oklahoma (I firmly stand by my belief that Oklahoma has the least desirable climate anywhere in North America) and even I found Corpus Christi to be uncomfortably humid. You and I may be well-adapted to 100+ temperatures, but for most people, they're a dealbreaker.
Most people find the climate in Southern California to be the gold standard:
(https://i.imgur.com/BBq0JCW.png)
It depends on where in southern California. I believe that on the coast (Santa Monica, Malibu, Newport Beach, etc) is that mild all year long. But places like Borrego Springs, Thermal, Needles, Imperial, Blythe, etc are the hottest places in North America (if not the world) as per the law of averages, with sometimes cold winter days.
In your case, Oklahoma City and Tulsa are quite unique in that it averages nearly 20 days with triple-digits highs and nearly 20 days of below freezing highs. And pretty much any place in the Southern Great Plains that is Texas Panhandle, Oklahoma, and Kansas expects to see many days of both of those extremes every year -- again as per the law of averages.
Quote from: webny99 on July 31, 2022, 10:16:32 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 31, 2022, 05:16:51 PM
(I firmly stand by my belief that Oklahoma has the least desirable climate anywhere in North America)
I don't know, the further north you go the more cold and winter weather you get, and the summers still get very hot and aren't enough better to offset it IMO. From what little I know of Oklahoma, I'd take it over Manitoba and probably over the Dakotas too.
This is true, but the humidity and tornado risk both generally diminish the further north you go, so they are somewhat more tolerable than mere temperature difference would suggest. Oklahoma is also prone to high-pressure systems that form a "heat dome" that deflects moisture away (which, I just learned today, is what causes monsoon season in the Southwest). Thus, Oklahoma is also somewhat more drought-prone than places further north. (It's not uncommon in the summer to go 30+ days without significant rainfall, while Kansas is getting storm after storm.)
I was in Corpus Christi about a month ago (late June) and I really didn't think it was that bad, even in the hottest part of the day walking around outside. Of course there was a really nice breeze that day, which probably mitigated the heat a bit. I personally think that the humidity in Houston is worse because it's far enough inland that a breeze is not too common, and the city heat island effect makes the city even hotter. Winters are at least very nice here however.
Quote from: CoreySamson on August 01, 2022, 05:25:58 PM
I was in Corpus Christi about a month ago (late June) and I really didn't think it was that bad, even in the hottest part of the day walking around outside. Of course there was a really nice breeze that day, which probably mitigated the heat a bit. I personally think that the humidity in Houston is worse because it's far enough inland that a breeze is not too common, and the city heat island effect makes the city even hotter. Winters are at least very nice here however.
You're from Houston, so you could probably walk through pure steam and not notice.
Oklahoma is no slouch in the humidity department either, but there was a noticeable difference to me. We got into town around 11PM and hit up a Burger King for some dinner, and I remember the humidity hitting me square in the face when I rolled down the window at the drive-thru.
Vancouver set a dew point record of 73F on Friday. It was absolutely miserable to walk through.
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/news/article/vancouver-sets-all-time-dew-point-record-as-tropical-air-bathes-british-columbia
I tend to find that in the middle of the day, when it is hottest, the relative humidity isn't just lower; the dewpoint is also slightly lower. For example, for the last 24 hours here in Wichita, the dewpoint is currently at its lowest (59° F, air temperature 100° F) and was at its highest around midnight (72° F, air temperature 77° F).
However, as a practical matter, I have to change clothes to go outside for any significant length of time, whether it is in the middle of the afternoon or late in the evening. I usually go for a two-mile walk around sunset, and come back in with sweat patches on my T-shirt and needing to wipe down my upper body with a wet washcloth.
So far, the real interesting thing about this summer isn't the heat, it's the fact that this has been a...rather quiet start to the hurricane season. Seriously, only three named storms this year in the Atlantic basin, and one of those (Bonnie) crossed over to the Pacific and became a hurricane there. There hasn't been anything approaching a tropical cyclone in nearly a month.
Quote from: brad2971 on August 01, 2022, 07:18:37 PM
So far, the real interesting thing about this summer isn't the heat, it's the fact that this has been a...rather quiet start to the hurricane season. Seriously, only three named storms this year in the Atlantic basin, and one of those (Bonnie) crossed over to the Pacific and became a hurricane there. There hasn't been anything approaching a tropical cyclone in nearly a month.
Last year had a similar hurricane drought this time of year, and most Atlantic hurricane seasons tend to have one right about now. I think the only reason we're calling it "quiet" is that 2020 threw us for a loop as to what normal when it comes to hurricanes actually means. If this persists halfway into August, then it would be weird.
Quote from: jgb191 on August 01, 2022, 01:25:44 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 31, 2022, 05:16:51 PM
Quote from: jgb191 on July 31, 2022, 12:36:28 AM
Judging by all the others' complaints about summer weather, I guess I have a higher-than-average heat tolerance, having grown up and lived in a semi-tropical climate all my life. I don't ever remember complaining in the summer. I've been outside in the summer playing tennis or hauling baggage on the tarmac and still feel alright. On the flipside, anything below 60 degrees (with light breeze) and I start shivering, especially if I don't have a coat on.
I still firmly stand by my belief that South Texas has the most desirable climate anywhere in North America.
I don't think you'll get many people to agree with you. I'm from Oklahoma (I firmly stand by my belief that Oklahoma has the least desirable climate anywhere in North America) and even I found Corpus Christi to be uncomfortably humid. You and I may be well-adapted to 100+ temperatures, but for most people, they're a dealbreaker.
Most people find the climate in Southern California to be the gold standard:
(https://i.imgur.com/BBq0JCW.png)
It depends on where in southern California. I believe that on the coast (Santa Monica, Malibu, Newport Beach, etc) is that mild all year long. But places like Borrego Springs, Thermal, Needles, Imperial, Blythe, etc are the hottest places in North America (if not the world) as per the law of averages, with sometimes cold winter days.
In your case, Oklahoma City and Tulsa are quite unique in that it averages nearly 20 days with triple-digits highs and nearly 20 days of below freezing highs. And pretty much any place in the Southern Great Plains that is Texas Panhandle, Oklahoma, and Kansas expects to see many days of both of those extremes every year -- again as per the law of averages.
It's not quite that bad, Tulsa averages 10.8 days above 100 a year and 8 days with the high below freezing. Oklahoma City is 11 and 7.
To Compare Dallas has 23 days above 100 and 1 day with the high below freezing. To me that is worse than Tulsa or Oklahoma City.
Austin has 29 days above 100 with 1 day with the high below freezing.
Kansas City only has 3 days above 100 but 26 days with highs below freezing.
We've just brainwashed ourselves into thinking it's not that bad. People who have lived elsewhere think we're crazy for putting up with it. :D
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 04, 2022, 07:33:22 PM
We've just brainwashed ourselves into thinking it's not that bad. People who have lived elsewhere think we're crazy for putting up with it. :D
Well, this year is that bad. That's really true.
But the worst is when it's 100 in places like Seattle or Philly when so many homes don't have air conditioning.
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 04, 2022, 07:33:22 PM
We've just brainwashed ourselves into thinking it's not that bad. People who have lived elsewhere think we're crazy for putting up with it. :D
Climate acclimation is actually a thing to a certain extent. People in Arizona used to call it "your blood thinning out" when it was in actuality your perception of heat or acclimation to heat changing over time.
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 04, 2022, 07:33:22 PM
We've just brainwashed ourselves into thinking it's not that bad. People who have lived elsewhere think we're crazy for putting up with it. :D
I remember spending just over a week in British Columbia in 2017. I got pretty acclimated to the chilly summer temperatures, then when I touched back down in Charlotte and got off the plane, the heat and humidity almost felt like a slap in the face. I have no idea how I ever put up with that for so long, but now I'm used to it again.
In the Greater Boston area, it will (hopefully) be on Tuesday.
I was (sort of) right; the heat advisory in southern New England was extended to Monday night, and just now to Tuesday night.
Heat Advisory in effect until Monday night for the Seattle/Tacoma/Olympia area and quite a bit of the Cascades. I'm just in the clear but it's still too warm.
(https://i.imgur.com/WN1Db2w.png)
^ Lucky for you Bruce, even during the Pacific Northwest's version of a "heat wave" (so to speak), your lows will drop into the frigid 50s at night, giving you ample cool down. Y'all really don't need air condition, but sounds like you probably need to use the heater most (if not all) of the year.
Quote from: jgb191 on August 08, 2022, 05:53:43 PM
^ Lucky for you Bruce, even during the Pacific Northwest's version of a "heat wave" (so to speak), your lows will drop into the frigid 50s at night, giving you ample cool down. Y'all really don't need air condition, but sounds like you probably need to use the heater most (if not all) of the year.
You're talking to the guy who whines when the sun is out and it's more than 70 degrees :-D
Quote from: jgb191 on August 08, 2022, 05:53:43 PM
^ Lucky for you Bruce, even during the Pacific Northwest's version of a "heat wave" (so to speak), your lows will drop into the frigid 50s at night, giving you ample cool down. Y'all really don't need air condition, but sounds like you probably need to use the heater most (if not all) of the year.
The last time there was 100F in Washington the amount of calls to the local OSHA office skyrocketed. Apparently most of them were regarding most businesses not providing employees air conditioning. Basically if an employer was providing adequate rest periods and water breaks there really wasn't any violation or need for an inspection.
Quote from: jgb191 on August 08, 2022, 05:53:43 PM
^ Lucky for you Bruce, even during the Pacific Northwest's version of a "heat wave" (so to speak), your lows will drop into the frigid 50s at night, giving you ample cool down. Y'all really don't need air condition, but sounds like you probably need to use the heater most (if not all) of the year.
Nope, I have my windows open overnight for most of the summer and early fall. The urban heat island effect is real and the long long summer days means it takes well until after midnight to reach a comfortable sleeping temperature.
Quote from: US 89 on August 08, 2022, 06:29:02 PM
You're talking to the guy who whines when the sun is out and it's more than 70 degrees :-D
Hey now, I do like me some sun. Just not when it's also heating things up. :bigass:
An ideal day for me would be sunny with scattered clouds (but not near the horizon) in the low to mid 70s.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 08, 2022, 06:38:27 PM
The last time there was 100F in Washington the amount of calls to the local OSHA office skyrocketed. Apparently most of them were regarding most businesses not providing employees air conditioning. Basically if an employer was providing adequate rest periods and water breaks there really wasn't any violation or need for an inspection.
Residential AC is still rare for older buildings, so I imagine many smaller businesses might also be behind the curve in adopting ACs. I've walked into some convenience stores and chain stores with weak or non-existent AC.
August 10 and several (but not all) days afterward will be below the average of 83°, so that makes 30 days (July 11 to August 9) where 28 of the 30 had a high above average.
Then the heat will stop. This still won't fix the drought, though.
In the Boston area, today promises to be the last day of the heat wave.
This heat reminds me of the Summer of '95. I spent that summer in St. Louis with my grandparents (moms side.) The days were brutal, nights more so; the thunderstorm outbreaks that whole summer in St. Louis were legendary. That summer culminated with the road trip back to the east coast that introduced me to the weirdness that is Breezewood.
My the answer to the thread title is "today, finally!"
Down to the upper 60's this morning and low 70's today.. but it feels even cooler than that after how hot and muggy it's been.
The hot streak of 90's and 100's officially ended last Wednesday in Missoula, but, there's a bonus, which doesn't surprise me. Only a few more days and by next Friday, I'm projecting this to be completely done and over with! We've been hot and dry since about July 7th, which is around 44 days from when the heat wave began. Missoula finally broke out of the hot streak on the 24th of August with mid 80's on Friday, then mid-70's on Saturday and Sunday. That brief rain shower helped end that streak.
Wichita precipitation totals:
5/24/2022 — 6/1/2022 – 9 days – 8.97 inches of rain
6/28/2022 — 8/27/2022 – 61 days – 1.14 inches of rain
Wichita high temperatures, from 6/30/2022 through 8/31/2022:
6 days – < 90°F
36 days – 90s °F
20 days – 100s °F
average – 95.6°F
We still have high temperatures in the 90s predicted through the 9th.
People here don't realize that, in other parts of the country, it isn't normal to have both a sprinkler system and a sump pump...
ETA: During all of July and August, I only mowed the lawn one time. And it still isn't tall enough to mow, really.
Quote from: CapeCodder on August 09, 2022, 10:13:45 AM
This heat reminds me of the Summer of '95. I spent that summer in St. Louis with my grandparents (moms side.) The days were brutal, nights more so; the thunderstorm outbreaks that whole summer in St. Louis were legendary. That summer culminated with the road trip back to the east coast that introduced me to the weirdness that is Breezewood.
Yes, I've been reminded of 1995 as well. Though apparently for Philadelphia, August this year was the hottest August on record.
Quote from: kphoger on September 01, 2022, 02:25:11 PMWichita precipitation totals:
5/24/2022 — 6/1/2022 – 9 days – 8.97 inches of rain
6/28/2022 — 8/27/2022 – 61 days – 1.14 inches of rain
Wichita high temperatures, from 6/30/2022 through 8/31/2022:
6 days – < 90°F
36 days – 90s °F
20 days – 100s °F
average – 95.6°F
We still have high temperatures in the 90s predicted through the 9th.
People here don't realize that, in other parts of the country, it isn't normal to have both a sprinkler system and a sump pump...
ETA: During all of July and August, I only mowed the lawn one time. And it still isn't tall enough to mow, really.
I mow the lawn more frequently, but since July 15 have mowed once every two weeks rather than weekly. We have a mixed fescue/bermuda lawn with much more tree shade in back than in front, and while the fescue in back has barely needed to be mowed, the bermuda in front really loves the heat and has been going wild.
This has also been a bad year for saplings.
Edit: Apropos of the topic of this thread, I do not expect daily maximum dewpoints to be consistently below 60° F until the final third of this month. Last year they crossed this particular threshold on September 21.
Quote from: elsmere241 on September 01, 2022, 02:28:59 PM
Quote from: CapeCodder on August 09, 2022, 10:13:45 AM
This heat reminds me of the Summer of '95. I spent that summer in St. Louis with my grandparents (moms side.) The days were brutal, nights more so; the thunderstorm outbreaks that whole summer in St. Louis were legendary. That summer culminated with the road trip back to the east coast that introduced me to the weirdness that is Breezewood.
Yes, I've been reminded of 1995 as well. Though apparently for Philadelphia, August this year was the hottest August on record.
A fact lost on most people is that -- in addition to that infamous heat wave in the Heartland -- there was a second far more powerful heat wave a couple of weeks later in the Desert Southwest, where Phoenix recorded 121 degrees, their second hottest day in the city's history. I was visiting Phoenix that day in late July 1995, so you could say I experienced 120's in consecutive years (along with 122 degrees in New Mexico in June 1994).
I guess that the first heat wave (albeit not as strong) was more famous and made worldwide headlines due to several hundred fatalities in the Chicagoland area alone.
Forecasted to hit 115F today in Fresno which would match the all time high. The previous instance of the all time high was during a July. As I write this message it is 80F outside which I don't look forward to running in.
The heat is already a distant memory in New England. Now we have lots of rain to worry about.
Seattle got a break from the high temperatures today, and more important we're supposed to get a break from the Forest Fire smoke from Mordor this weekend and get some RAIN! Yay!
At least the heat stopped a while ago (last day of it was Oct. 24)! It's actually been pleasantly warm, but not hot, these past two weeks.